Jordan Peterson Analyzes the Flood and Tower of Babel
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2023
- In this excerpt from Dr. Peterson's 2017 lecture, "Personality 13: Existentialism via Solzhenitsyn and the Gulag," he expounds upon the significance embedded within diverse flood narratives found across the globe and explicates their relevance to the human experience.
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4:10 "The larger you build a system, the more there's a proclivity to worship it as if it's everything." Thank you, sir.
Entropy > empires
It's so funny that the groups of people typically against worship of God are the ones pushing heavily for a utopia of some sort, as if a powerful centralized government is something necessary to them.
Science is one of those. As much it has benefits, it has corruption and self-destruction that is attractive to the egotistical individuals in a strange way.
@JohnPaul-ol5zl Science isn't an entity. Therefore it itself cannot be corrupt. It's the people who become corrupt. Not the science. Science is simply a collection of data and educated guesses that change and morph as new data is collected and analyzed. How the people utilize it is the basis for corruption.
@@JohnPaul-ol5zl Well of course. It's easier to cope with the infinitely deep mystery of life and death if you think you can find all the answers in a book. Words have power, numbers have power, ideas have power but we often forget that words and numbers and ideas are just idols. And god said don't make idols of me bro. We often forget that the word god itself is the most blasphemous idol of all.
1+1=2 is an idol of god. The word "God" is an idol of God.
That's why most religious people prefer to stay away from the true underlying spiritually at the heart of their chosen religion, cos that's where shit get's real freaky baby.
His capacity for analysis is outstanding.
Yes, it is amazing to listen to his knowledge and skill!
I think Jordan thinks too much. I feel for the poor, intelligent guy. Us dumb slobs salute him.
It gives me hope for us all. No joke.
Absolutely …. 100%
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I love how the Old Testament succinctly describes the human condition to the point that it becomes prophetic.
But this alone is not enough to overcome the associated suffering, because when it did we would create our own Tower of Babel.
The New Testament is unique in that it shows the ONE and ONLY way out of this suffering.
Thank you
And when you look at the Old Testament and the New Testament there is a crimson thread tying them together that The Old Testament is Christ concealed and the New Testament is Christ revealed
Yes... "Jesus" was killed in Genesis... the story was told over and over on repeat.... the entire Bible is the story of the same 4 generations on repeat... each telling you get a little more information about what actually happened.
As difficult as this may be to believe, the Bible is a Luciferian document...
36 writers authored it...
Abraham fought the battle of 9 kings with 318 soldiers... 18 into three parts... 666...
Then "god" makes a covenant with Abraham...
Bring me a 3yo heifer a 3yo goat a 3yo ram...a turtledove and a young pigeon...
He cut them in half and set each piece apart from the other... but the birds he did not divide...
3+3+3+1 10
3+3+3+1 10
10. 10
Abraham wouldn't let the vultures alight...
Vltr.... in Hebrew...the divine light... then he had a vision where a smoldering oven and a burning lamp passed between the divided piles...
10 5 5 10
2 1 1 2
666
That's genesis 15.... which is 21 vs long
15 + 21= 36
Just in case you thought it might be an accident...
(H)eifer (G)oat (R)am
HGR Abraham's Egyptian concubine... mother of Ishmael...
Hgr means an Immigration to a new place of dwelling...
Turtledove
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Bs it doesn't show anything aside from how stupid humans are. The pathway to salvation in the NT is complete horse shit and doesn't work and is proven to not work.... just like thoughts and prayers. Completely fucking useless.
One of my favorite stories from the Bible. I use it to explain why we don’t need to test God. And a few other points like separatism and individualism to a point as well as be proud of who you are and where you came from
This video has 100k less views then his average video. Yet it encapsulates nearly everything important about reality.
He truly is brilliant! And I love the fact that he has an overhead projector in his classroom. Fantastic!
The THINKING Man, thinks things out, resolves everything into its normal parts and so avoids Complexes.
Just don't think too much. That's the trick.
@redtobertshateshandles Right! Got to do it with a bit of Humor.
Overhead projector behind Jordan made me super nostalgic
Wow, yeah totally. I didn't even notice it till I saw youre comment.
Transparencies lead to clear a projection of ideas.
We still gottem 😂
When is Peterson's coverage of the book of proverbs coming?
I am secular and not particularly spiritual, but there is so much concrete wisdom that can be extracted from mythology and great storytelling.
Reading part of the Bible and also JP's famous book "12 rules for life" I believe it's enough to convert to some religion.
If you consider corruption, the artificial creation of biological and non biological weapons, war itself, politics trying to destroy the core of society and human relationships, then you can explain, or at least say that *"there's evil in our world"*
Then you can just think a little more and consider that each power comes with its own homologue of similar proportions but opposite force, this is of course, good.
I'm not particularly religious but for me it was easy to understand it with a little bit of thinking. God and Satan can be explained (and therefore, they exist), as the crucial incarnation of their own concepts (good and evil) that manifest themselves all across the Earth.
@@Random_person98 Read the Mahābhārata.
@Razear
Read the Mahābhārata.
Imagine being one of the students and trying to take notes
lol! ... so, so true ... you gotta let your memory be the recorder and hit "play" in your mind and then pray the recorder works okay afterwards! ... those poor students ... well, at least they can always use UA-cam to retrieve some portions of their classes :)
😂 it's complicated because you don't know if you write or pay attention!😂
Please continue to do these biblical analysis. I love to hear the connections you make and it’s helpful to bring a fresh understanding of the text especially because plenty of it can be misinterpreted.
He has an entire biblical series on his channel.
The story of the Tower of Babel
Is the story of the internet
Explain please
It’s also the story of Communism
@@shivabreathes also radical feminism
And the story of The emperor's New clothes is Elon musk
NASA and CERN
At 4:19 his description of ideology is incredible.
Oldie but goodie
EXCELLENT.Wish Dr.Peterson would analyze the best poems in Literature and art masterpieces of all times.Poetry and the visual arts are prophetic indeed.It would be a refreshing and enlightening change we would all profit from.
Agreed! Dose that mean it Done? -Hope So
Sure it does.But not only John Donne.Milton, Hopkins, Yeats' The Second Coming, Thompson's The Hound of Heaven and T.S Eliot included.Perhaps an analysis of the Psalms too.But above all I would like him to analyze Goya's The monsters the sleep of reason creates.
Poeta and painters are visionary and prophetic
this lecture is fantastic
Thank you Doc.
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"And the Gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."
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Thank you, 💯 ...
amazing to hear his take on Genesis. I wish he would analyze every chapter of old testament
He has a lecture series on Genesis, and Exodus he has the Bible study/discussion on Dailywire.
Dr Jordan Peterson is a modern Jeremiah, a voice crying from the wilderness!!!!
I remember this channel having more than a million subs
His point about New Orleans is accurate, and true
Adam Smith cautioned against "Men of System".
One world government = The Tower of Babel
What's wrong with one world government we are One species why can't we all have one government.
@@JimBarry-nr2pj if it turns into dictatorship there's nowhere to run.
@@JimBarry-nr2pj one species; many different cultures; some governments fail, some succeed. If we are under one government and it fails them all of humanity fails with it. With many nations and freedom of movement all of humanity can prosper.
@@user-ji2on8eg3l it's like Nassau county here in New York many school districts all wasting money on repetitive bureaucracies think how much we save with just one government.
@@JimBarry-nr2pj the bigger the system is, the more probability that it becomes authoritarian, so 'one world government' is automatically authoritarian. If you don't want to be a slave, then I wouldn't support such endeavors.
Wish he spent more time doing stuff like this instead of being derogatory, one of the things i really appreciated was the unique ways he broke down these old testament stories archetypically, would have loved to see him tackle the whole thing without him getting involved with the likes of Dennis Prager. Miss the old you, hope for a return.
This man... I love him
Oswald Spengler's "The Decline of the West" is an interesting read
Jesus I Trust In You
He loves you too
@@kapinio1 all men you mean. Amen that's what amen means 🙏
Growing up secular, people around me would say things like this, and I always felt like they needed to translate their message for people outside of the religion. Exactly what does it mean, in either actionable or psychological terms, to say to others that you trust in Jesus?
I really think this is a) where so many believers go wrong, and is b) one of the reasons why Peterson has had so much success communicating these ideas: he doesn't toss them around like a secret language known only to God's chosen. After all, what's that admonishment about not praying in public?
@@Science-bi8dp “so be it”
@@cowlump Saying "Jesus, I trust in you," is a prayer, an act of faith. They are making it publicly, which takes a certain amount of courage. To an unbeliever, it's nothing more or less I suppose than noting that the person making the proclamation is a person of faith. It's not an attempt to catechize or convert.
Believers generally assume that if you're curious, you'll ask. If you're not curious, there's no point in wasting your time.
Jordan Peterson is speaking on the internet, a reproduction of a lecture. This is different than a person-to-person interaction. Most people don't want content-heavy answers in casual conversation, or at least that has been my experience. I speak more at length in my Sunday School class where I know people are interested.
The admonishment about not praying in public is not in any way meant to prohibit public worship. I assume you're talking about Matthew 6:5. There the prohibition is clearly against praying in public in order to gain the admiration of men, rather than to worship God.
We just had a pretty gnarly storm that had us under a tornado watch and the sirens went off here in Kentucky and though it wasn’t catastrophic it was strong enough to put the fear of god in any man in its path, lots of trees fell hundreds of lightning strikes occurred but what got me most of all was how I realized that if we don’t fear god we get ourselves into trouble and fearing god gives us the chance to experience gods love for us and helps us to trust and respect him as we should because he is God almighty I prayed for the last week for fear of god and the storm we had yesterday really helped me to feel that and I hope and pray I continue to fear god almighty and learn to love him by obeying him more and more and I pray that for those of us in the faith and coming into the faith praise God thank you Jesus amen
Everybody likes the self help stuff but this is what interests me
Amen
My comment is unrelated to this clip. I just finished watching Ben stevensons video where he did a 1 week challenge to follow a routine as outlined by you in your book. He made reference to the act of petting a cat as nod to human beings taking time to enjoy the little things in life. A verse came to mind from the book of 1 Thessalonians 5:18 which says to give thanks Always. This charge seems counter intuitive to carry out especially when you are going through dark times. I now realise that we have to try and find little rays of sunshine at all times so that we can give our hearts some warmth even when it all seems bleak.
I love educated guesses on my BOOKS!
It’s so good to hear an analysis of the old stories that does not focus at all in the adage “because the high man in the sky said so”. So much knowledge gets halted because of the focus on power rather than why this was repeated
I personally believe the Tower of Babel was a tale of an ancient highly advanced technological civilization that had become like something akin to the Borg on Star Trek that became all connected together via some technology like wifi and neural implants in all humans. And the "Tower" was actually a giant computer and server feeding an all powerful A.I. by storing not only all mankinds current knowledge, but all their future knowledge by saving thoughts of all humans, all the time as they happened. This was of course all run by a powerful kabal of psychopaths also known as the 'elite', who basically fooled them all into slavery by at first taking advantage of their naivity getting them to plug in willingly, but later simply done against everyones will without everyone's knowledge by self replicating nano bots creating the links undetected instead of invasive, voluntary surgery. And these self replicating nanobots also continued to build storage in the giant server (Tower of Babel) growing ever higher towering over mankind stealing and housing society's thoughts and the elite as well. This society made their technology their religion thinking they can become, or are already, gods, wirhout ever realizing they had become slaves with no free will but instead lulled to sleep by the technology through literal acts of sorcery (nanobots). They all had the same language and never spoke out loud. Would explain the language aspect also with them all communicating in one tongue of computer code that linked them all mentally. I think it was only a random act of nature that eventually freed them after who knows how long: thousands, or even tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Something like an asteroid or something cataclysmic, randomly happened that shut everything down, and "confused their language" as people were no longer connected and had to learn to speak again as they broke off into tribes. Would explain similarities in languages and differences. So yeah, thats my crazy theory. It was a society a little further on from us who finally got trapped for good in the "world wide web" of the inter"net". And then a random act of nature, (or of a god) destroyed it all causing a reset in society. Now, here we are again. More than one foot already back in the trap, connected via internet, fools already willingly putting chips in themselves while even more fools let them inject nanobots (a.k.a., vaccines) inside their very bodies. Who knows, maybe the tower still stands and we're all still just laying in pods in that tower powering it like batteries already.😋🥴😴😴
I want the shit you're on
Nope, since the Tower of Babel happened after the flood, and the reason why the flood happened because the Sin of man was too great. Why was the sin of man so great that God flooded the earth? Well, right before the flood took place the Bible stated that Angels left their abode and had taken an attraction to human women, had babies with them, and they also showed humans forbidden technology and introduced new inventions. You're argument is that Tower of Babel was destroyed because it became too advanced, when that couldnt be the case because all advanced angel technology was destroyed by the flood. You watch too much sci-fi movies.
Lay off the LSD.
You completely misunderstand what God is saying to the world through the account of the Tower of Babel. To sum it up...God gave the people repopulating the earth after He wiped out the evil in a flood ,a commandment..."spread out and build up humanity by harnessing the things in nature". But, they ALL got together and decided to rebel. They decided to be their own god and make their own future by joining together and uniting around a human achievement, a huge tower reaching to the heavens. The key thing to notice is that "they all spoke the same language". This account is a dire prophetic warning to the world for our time right now...because globalists want to build a global government where people will be forced to unify and profess the same values ...in other words , everyone will be "speaking the same language" once again as they unify around another achievement of mankind. Btw...Greek general Zerxes recorded that he found the base of the Tower of Babel , and destroyed it in the 4th century B.C....so yeah, it was real. Today, the components of this "global language" are : that fossil fuels cause climate change, that LGBT sexuality is normal, natural and healthy, that white European Christians are the source of the world's problems, that socialism solves the problems of the world, that drug use and doctor assisted suicide are "human rights". That people should sign away all their freedoms to the gov't and live reprobate lifestyles, and the gov't will assume the liability for the bad choices they make in exchange for total power over everyone's lives.
U are correct. You are all prisoners in pods on another planet due to your rebellion in heaven during the last great fall
The consistency of God's character described as in the story of the flood is what many gospel preachers never understand. Judgement is not an act of God but an act of man.
The thing to understand about sin, is that it's just human nature. Human tendency. Once we know we can do the wrong thing and get away with it, or profit from it.. try getting us not to do it. Especially in positions of authority. Good conversation on JPs end though .
I was planning on writing a book called "Satan is a Dickhole," but apparently, Milton already covered that territory, and was a far better writer to boot.
The tower of babble is not the last story in genesis it's literally only chapter 11 there are 39 chapters after that
The Superior Approach of Moses.
The best "one way to think about (Babel)" is to recognize that the people had refused the testimony of Noah by the decision to build it in the first place, which led to considerable futility.
And the episode indicates the urgency of the Prime Directive given to Adam to "multiply, and fill the earth," which then was better served by dividing up into clans and spreading out. That the Prime Directive is thus brought into focus at a time when it's fulfillment now seems near, whilst the West is intent on instigating a WW3 sized kill-off under the auspices of a wretched narrative, is compelling proof of efficacy of approach...
Although peripheral approaches are perhaps not without merit, they are fraught with danger. Faith based reason, with rigor, which was the approach of Moses is always to be preferred.
QED
SEL
LOL I JUST GOT A FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCY WARNING SECONDS AFTER GETTING INTO THE VIDEO, WHAT A COINCIDENCE
Evil prevail when good man do nothing
@@MasteryOrder thank you
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We do have some biblical account of what took place with Satan in regards to his fall and influence over other angels. Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, and Revelation 12.
Dr. Peterson, could you please come back to this story in light of the following:
Gen 1:28a "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it." (NIV)
Gen 11:4 "Come, let us build ourselves a city...that we may...not be scattered over the face of the whole earth."
Is it possible that the reason God stopped the building of the Tower of Babel is that the tower's direct purpose was to obviate God specific command to (and purpose for) mankind?
The tower of babble is still in effect. Everyone, even having the same language, still cannot understand each other. The language is broken everywhere. You can't understand each other. 😢.
Is New Orleans a way to convey what your saying or have you drawn a conclusion regarding this? Explain who this is not reaching and just connection "dots".
Dr. Peterson, what makes you say the angel, called one time by the name Lucifer, was sentance directly to jail? 10:02
Yeah but these things actually happened. It isn’t like a Dostoevsky story that is created based on some sort of truth you need to fight past to see. It happened.
Can you extract multiple truths from it? Yes, because it is THE truth. For example, the great stories written by CS Lewis extracted truths from THE truth. But these writings should bring us back to THE truth.
Ever think about the mud flood theory going around from time to time and the "great reset"?
Where is the description of satan from ? Book name
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We’re moving as men do
Romans 5:13 KJVS
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Pretty sure they didn't think like this in past, I'm pretty sure if something was evil they noted it that it was evil.
I don't think they knew to use smart words like this and they pretty much wrote it down like they saw it..
Respect the peterson
...JP for PM...!
Along the blood red path,
The chance for suffering and death.
Mi ar place sa cunosc un barbat compatibil fara probleme existentiale si singur evident
Imi place momentul cand tot descoperi compatibilitate si eu fac asa...si mie mi place asta
In other words change laws to make wrong right and right wrong. Because most people are willing to allow you to do your duty and be wrong because they don't want to be called wrong when they're done their dirt. Be not conformed to this world BUT transformed in the renewing of your mind in Christ Jesus. Amen
Yeap true about flood relief in a rainbow
Suffering and punishment cannot be clearly or properly analyzed or administered within a single lifetime without knowledge of the relevant mirror past life, or lives. 7 fold punishments on all the same people in the spirit. Crimes are all written. Grace has come, but it's not a long negotiation.
JP4PM 😊
God save the king! Within the Magna Carta 1215ad lays freedom all of your voices will be heard. There is NOTHING TO FEAR EVERYONE. THEY ARE AFRAID OF YOU AND YOUR WORD
Paul sturgeon were coming for you
They didn't build the towel of babal physically, they were planning too
Genesis 11:3-6
[3]And they said one to another, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
[4] And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
[5] And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
[6] And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Religion needs help 🙏... This structure has been suffering for way too long and need to healllllll all of it wounds before we lose valuable life ❤... That's for real
Speaking of the Dutch, for the past decade, the Netherlands has been working to enact plans for flood safety based on an anticipated a sea level rise of up to about 1 m (3.3 ft) by 2100. The current dikes are OK for the one storm evey 10,000 years today. But as noted in this video: things fall apart. Flood statistics are changing and so the Dutch are acting reasonably, on convincing evidence. Some other responsible governments are also planning. Most governments are not due to "Corruption" (can you say fossil fuel funded money think tanks made up of those that will escape the consequenses due to logistics and their advanced age) from the refusal to do what they knew to be right. To be fair, many of those refusing to act upon the convincing evidence are science contrarians snookered by the corrupt.
4:30-4:51 why does it sound like he's describing america lol
Perhaps there are universal flood myths because.....
There was a bloody big flood that affected many cultures.
(See Graham Hancock, younger dryas, comet impact hypothesis)
I suggest that it's humans that state that a god exists to judge human’s that sin, when the truth is, it is the humans (in disguise of serving gods) that are doing all the judging.
Human nature is naturally judgemental. When someone converts to a faith they are not magically made perfect, but still human simply undergoing a proces. "Judge not lest ye be judged." "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." The Bible does not teach people to be judgemental, people teach people to be judgemental.
@@inrptn If you believe in a god ... don't you also believe that the god IS judgmental? After all, only a few chosen souls will be saved BY the god.
And if you believe that the god is judgmental, then if you want to be "in the god's good graces" you must also be as judgmental as you believe is the god.
And that is WHY religion is so NASTY. It teaches people to not only shun others ... but to bully others and murder others ... as heretics, sinners, blasphemers, evil-doers, et cetera.
if we get rid of the religious teachings ... what is left BUT personal responsibility?
Example: as an Atheist ... if I choose to be mean to somebody ... I don't have any god to blame it on ... so I MUST take responsibility for my own nasty behavior.
@@junevandermark952 Your concept of religion is incredibly warped. Though it's very common for people to throw out religion entirely because they saw some religious people doing bad things. People don't blame their sins on God, and if they did, then they have no idea what sin is and what God's role in our life is. Bullying, murdering, doing all manner of evil is done every single day by people who are NOT religious as well. No Atheist has created a system of morality than can even hold a candle to the teachings of the Bible.
@@inrptn People that preach religion automatically think they know the mind of the supposed god. Otherwise they would be terrified of MISQUOTING the ALL MIGHTY.
If you think that an evil atheist would be in trouble for not believing in the existence of a god ... just think of how much worse trouble you might be in for taking words out of the ALL MIGHTY's intended context ... which in turn caused shunning, bullying, torture and even death to those whom the ALL MIGHTY perceives as being INNOCENT.
Does that give you something worth thinking about, before further bragging that you KNOW your bible?
There are now hundreds of ex members of clergy that have joined The Clergy Project, to find employment elsewhere.
From Apostle to Apostate: The Story of the Clergy Project … authors … Catherine Dunphy, Richard Dawkins
When you are reared to think of your faith and its leaders as infallible, dissent can be an unsettling thing. This is particularly true for clergy, who have devoted their lives to the subject of faith. I therefore especially hope that this story reaches those clergy who have yet to articulate their doubts. As they struggle through this process, I am thankful that they can look to the Clergy Project as an example of community and humanism as an example of good.
@@inrptn After giving advise to people all over the world concerning how they should live their lives … Jordan Peterson has the audacity on his social media podcast THE MONSTER OF SELF-GUILT … to utter the following words … “Yeah well, one of the things you learn if you are a clinician and you have any sense, is, also, is also why you don’t offer people advise. But I don’t know what the hell you should do. Like maybe you and I could figure it out together with some really careful thought, but I can’t … most people are in situations that are sufficiently complex, so that I can’t … casual advice is just not helpful. I mean there is a real arrogance in that. The same arrogance as judgement, like.”
Excuse me Jordy, but the desert dwellers were familiar with flooding of Euphrates and Tigris as well as Nile. You're wrong...again
The Tower of Babel story reminds me of Christianity
As it should, it's part of the Bible after all.
Where in the bible did it say God's highest angel is Lucifer or as u said Santa ?
At one point he claimed the meaning for 'meek' in the sermon on the mount had to have been a mistranslation into an innaccurate English because 'meek' originally meant "be a monster but keep your sword sheathed" which, he said, "makes more sense because I can't see how being too weak to respond is morally virtuous."
This is pure b.s. Meek in Greek is πράος: submissive, mild, and it isn't ever used contextually in the way Peterson suggests in the literature. What he is trying to do is rationalize his version of "good" to equal strong but decide not to use force. He's FALSELY trying to enlist Jesus for his own take on morals!
This isn't the only time I've caught him fibbing like this. In one lecture he tried to claim the Greek etymologies for "demon" and "democracy" had an identical root origin. They don't. "Demon" derives from "daimon"; "democracy" from "demos"---utterly different word origins.
When Jesus said "If someone strikes you, turn the other cheek" he did not mean something like "If someone belts you, restrain yourself from beating him up."
When it comes to this guy, buyer beware! See:
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He can be childishly persnickity and unfair I guess.
When I responded to one of his entrees that he wholesale bought the Hicks crackpot misinterpretation of Kant's philosophy as non-Enlightenment he personally responded by calling me "an ungrateful little shit!" adding "What books have you written?"
After responding that (1) I'd written and published 3 works in philosophical theology and (2) I doubted the author of the remark under his name was really him, (given it was so abruptly crude and judgemental), I received NO RESPONSE.....🤔
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He just took the criticism very much to heart. Then immediately denies he ever does. 🤣
Peterson wrong on ideology:
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Peterson wrong on Marx:
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"Every academic in the entire western world is a leftist." ...Really?
"Derrida knew his linguistic theories were a derivation of Marxism." ...Really?
The first statement certainly isn't true; I'd invite anyone to see for themselves whether the latter is true or not, and specifically in what sense.
There is a sense, for example, where Marx "is a derivation of Hegel," notably his dialectical method. Or that Marx's "residual Christian value srentiments"
(Nietzsche) are a "derivation of Christianity," etc.
One could just as well say (as Nietzsche DID say) that democracy is itself steeped in the same resentment as that which possessed Marx, (and Derrida). And it would be worthwhile to ask if Nietzsche was correct in saying of Christianity what Peterson says of Marxism: that it uses an ethos of LOVE and altruism to disguise resentment, vindictiveness, and HATE!
Peterson wrong on postmodernism:
Peterson frequently blames Derrida and Foucalt for being the chief postmodernists who joined Marxism in this 'era of free speech abrogation'. But Derrida agrees with Peterson on the crucial cultural importance of a logos ontology and status given speech, not to mention its divine source, in his essay "Circumfessions."
And Foucalt is a bigtime proponent of robust free speech, and that even in the mode of effervescent determination Peterson himself employs:
link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41296-018-0253-0
("This article pays close attention to Michel Foucault's theory that political regimes are enlightened through courageous free speech. A Foucaultian enlightenment occurs not when philosophical reason completely replaces superstition and enthusiasm in the public sphere, but instead when the parrhesiast partially organizes competing claims to know and to speak the truth.")
Peterson wrong on postmodernism:
See youtube Daniel Dueda comments at
ua-cam.com/video/JGtGoKrSIHM/v-deo.html
Possibly less wrong than you fear. Although the "Foucalt the Phallocentric" is an old feminist canard long ago refuted analytically; see:
www.jstor.org/stable/2111456
And JP has said the anti-free speech movement across campuses is something "as far as I can tell the neoMarxists and postmodernists are responsible for" and if I remember right somewhere he does "blame" Derrida and Foucalt. Unfairly, it seems to me. (To say of postmodernists as you do that "their philosophy surely ends up in a lack of free speech, no matter what they say" doesn't seem to make much sense. It's like blaming Locke's pro-democracy philosophy for Robespierre's 'Reign of Terror'!
To say that for Foucalt he sees western culture as a "phalocentric [sic] tirany [sic]" because he believes it is "based on only relations of power" is merely to mimic the same misunderstanding Peterson has: such a view is anything but "pathological" if it happens to be factually true. Nietzsche, for example, saw absolutely every aspect of organic and inorganic existence based upon the Will to Power ("and nothing else besides!") in an acute metaphysical reduction yet no one has sought to render his explanatory description of ultimate reality something 'pathological'! And Peterson does believe in "hierarchies based on competence, not just power," judging Foucalt to be full of resentment for thinking as he does (something Nietzsche himself surely would have taken issue with). Peculiarly, to me, Peterson fails utterly to grasp the extent in a psychodynamic proposed by Foucalt competence IS a form of Power!
Nor is Foucalt's view that all relations ultimately derive out of power is "narrow-minded, resentful, and dangerous." In fact, to say "all relations are based on power" is so abstract in nearly says nothing by saying everything, devolving to the status of mere truism. (And the "knowledge is power" gambit is one that Peterson plays with unceasing glee on his own audiences and interlocutors repeatedly.)
Your discourse's sudden movement into explanations for why persons would use Foucalt to justify behavior meant to make oppressed groups aware of their own cultural oppression then tack on the end it must be something that I too must be supporting is peculiar and unwarranted. It doesn't even follow from the apparent fact certain types of individual identities feel marginalized by the more powerful that it is intrinsically unjust and must be opposed by all means. The power dynamics aren't even given as deterministically inevitable and --even if they were-- that would entail resisting them is an exercise in futility.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because I've found Peterson's judgments of the postmodernists riddled with error and ostensibly unfair, that must mean I am against the tribe of Petersonites! I am merely trying to find a way to again take his partisan reasoning as seriously as I once did.
Peterson wrong on responsibility:
ua-cam.com/video/JGtGoKrSIHM/v-deo.html
Peterson wrong on free speech:
ua-cam.com/users/shortsqSokc27jIzE?feature=share
I don't believe that radicals hold that "the idea of free speech itself is just a mask...to justify the oppressive patriarchy." I'd like to see if any of Peterson's intellectual nemeses (Foucalt, Derrida, Marx etc.) or their minions (Dyson, Ibram X. Kendi, etc.) ever promulgated that view.
One of Peterson's logical errors:
ua-cam.com/users/shortse85lGxdY_6s?feature=share
The ability to articulate what one consciously knows one believes isn't obviated by the fact 99% of our cognitive processes are unconscious. Defensiveness enabled the commission of a logical error by Jordan here....🙄
Peterson wrong about Nietzsche:
I think Peterson's hero Nietzsche would say that although hierarchies may not be predicated on power, their substative ontology is interpretively reducable to power configurations that best explain them. His assertion that hierarchical arrangements are justified as actual by "competence, not power" fails to go insightfully one step deeper and admit that competence has the value it has only because it IS a manifestation of power, as all mastery is....
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Copy and paste all you want, nobody actually cares about your thoughts.
Probably because they're incoherent and nonsensical, whereas Peterson makes no claim to comprehend the Bible but rather offers his interpretation. If you were half as dedicated to actually spreading the "good" by fixing mistranslations or not rather than typing out libraries of trash that can't even be burned, then maybe you'll get somewhere.
@@Kaleki935 . You cannot honestly claim to interpret something you do not comprehend.
And that is a bit different from LYING etymologically and PRETENDING to be have qualifications you don't have.
I know my remarks have stung you with the bitter truth about your 'hero'. Do endeavor to get a real life flesh and blood therapist for thyself, Herr Eckhardt!!!
After one level of the tower. They built level 2. THE PEOPLE DIDNT STOP 🛑 TO ASK WHY ARE WE BUILDING ANOTHER LEVEL? WITH THIS ONE LEVEL WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR TASK AND ARE NOW CLOSER TO GOD. NEXT PROJECT. 😅😅😅 YOU LOVE ME YET? 😂😂
Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven?
Jordan Peterson the father of Psychoanalysis of Religion.
poor mr. p. he is the personification of the tower of babel.
18,000 years ago the ice of the last Ice Age glaciation began to melt. It melted for 7000 years. Sea levels rose 400+ feet in that time. There's your Great Flood. That's why it's common across so many cultures.
Lol
Jordan starts out claiming The Tower of Babel as the last story in Genesis.
Oops. That story is chapter 11. Genesis has 50 chapters. Genesis is barely getting started with the Tower of Babel story. What about Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph?
Two things I’ve caught that are biblically incorrect, one is that satan was cast into hell. Satan
roams the earth.
Also, where are you getting that he was gods number one angel?
Satan only appears after the Exile because he was 'borrowed' from the Zoroastrians.
@@kevinkelly2162 Wes huff has historical proof about that
This is not for the mortals. It is foe immoral. Eternal is not experienced by mortals. The dead know not anything. It is written in the scripture.
Acts of barbarism are to some people an often convenient enough for them way to avoid responsibliity while they are satisfying enough already being held everywhere stereotypes to get public officials off their case while they are acting barbaric.
If you want a *functional* grasp of Hell: it is Heaven gone most spectacularly wrong... that about sums it up quite well indeed.
Daemon est Deus inversus
@@aidanmehigan7062 Which fake sentence is completely meaningless *at best*; and also, if applied theologically, blatantly false in and of itself; as well as totally heretical.
@@perprerp Oh? Because there very much is all of that; and no, it is *not* a matter of perpsective, it is a matter of *reality*, sadly.
@@perprerp Not at all; as it takes a lot to make the case validly comprehensible, especially today.
As for the one view being superior to all the others: that's always the case.
And as for the rest of your highly delusional claim set: get lost, before you insert your foot so far into your digestive tract that it comes out your behind.
And as for your "be still" directive, no; I will not, and there's nothing you can do to oblige anyone to do so, nor can anybody else.
@@perprerp Oh, there very much *is* suffering: break your own leg and you'll see just how precisely wrong you are in that regard... so thus you're delusional to think that suffering, and penalties, and even worse, evil, wouldn't exist; when reality diametrically contradicts your whole stances and proves you to be a deluded fool at best.
As for whom I want to be: that is not even close to relevant; for we are not necessarily going to be who we would want to be.
it's a fucking comet impact story, simple as that.
Jordan, if you want to understand God, first read Isaiah 55:8. There, through His prophet Isaiah, He days " My thoughts are not your thoughts and My words are not your words." Jesus told His disciples that He had to leave them so that they could receive " the Comforter." The Comforter is His Hily Spirit , for God is spirit. Do things Peter said you must do to be saved and you shall receive the Holy Spirit and your knowledge of God will dramatically increase. I testify that this is truth.
There are allusions to the idea that you should build a house for god. What’s the difference between replacing god and a house for god? When an idea lives on its own and doesn’t have to be forced into the world?
Nope, no such allusions exist.
@@_munkykok_ Isn’t that what you’re doing when you build a temple? Why doesn’t that apply to everyday life?
I was once told, from a reliable source, that what angered God about the Tower of Babel was not that man was building a tower thinking he could reach up to God, but rather he was building a tower high enough to escape another flood. This after God said he wouldn't send another flood.
Maybe then God was particularly angry that they were dumb enough to think height meant safety. A strong flood knocking out the bottom layer will screw the entire tower, irrespective of its height.
Josephus infers flood protection as a motive in his writing. antiquity of the Jews.
Ironic he talks of floods occuring due to corruption
and also denies human made climate change.
The irony is deep
God that he would never again flood the Earth. Also, you can't deny a falsehood.
I think of my mum describing my grandmother as superstitious, and my wife describing her grandmother the same way. Australian Aboriginals creation story is a giant snake carving a river on it's journey. I think academics have a tendency to over analyse things, just as Freud came up with his brilliant ideas about childhood etc, then ruined it all with further nonsense. I think these stories are just attempts to explain the unknown. When you've lost your husband, and three children before the age of 50, and you're uneducated, then you probably explain it as that broken mirror.
How can you build a building to reach God but then when its too high he just fucks it up?
LMFAO😅😅
South African Government
Funny that there is a plethora of evidence for a comet strike and everything that goes with it about 6000yrs ago, puts a new twist on the book of revelation lol
Law of Moses is knowing Good from Evil:
Genesis 1 is God 😇 (Elohim) and Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim).
Genesis 2 is the LORD of God 👿 (Yahweh Elohim) and, later, Spirit of the LORD (Ruach Yahweh).
Genesis 3 has a clever snake 🐍
(the snake knew Elohim, of Genesis 1, from Yahweh of Elohim, of Genesis 2.
So, the snake passed the Law of Moses).
What is the difference between Elohim and Yahweh?
According to the documentary hypothesis, these variations are the products of different source texts and narratives that constitute the composition of the Torah: Elohim from Genesis 1 is the name of God used in the Elohist (E) and Priestly (P) sources, while Yahweh from Genesis 2 is the name of God used in the Jahwist (J) source.
Who was Yahweh originally?
Yahweh was originally described as one of the sons of El (Elohim) in Deuteronomy 32:8-9, but this was removed by a later emendation to the text. With the notable exception of Yahweh himself, the deities worshipped by Israel were also Canaanite. These included El, the ruler of the pantheon, Asherah, his consort, and Baal.
How did Yahweh become god?
"Yahweh" was differentiated out of "Yahu" by the etymologizing fancy of the priests of the sanctuary of Sinai in the land of Mutsri. The Calebite clans in the south of Judah, whose arms placed David on the throne, worshiped this god; and when David became king, he made Yahweh the national god of Israel.
Did the Midianites worship Yahweh?
According to Karel van der Toorn, "By the 14th century BC, before the cult of Yahweh had reached Israel, groups of Edomites and Midianites worshipped Yahweh as their god;" this conclusion is based on identification between Midianites and the Shasu.
Yahweh is from Edom and Seir, not Israel (judges 5, deuteronomy 33).
Bronze Age Israel 🇮🇱 > Iron Age Israel 🇮🇱
(Canaan)
Everyone sins, nobody is perfect, the world has always been in chaos, god knew long ago what would happen, its his story, bad shit is supposed to happen
6:50 Creating a totalitarian system and then falling in love with it... damn. If that doesn't describe the modern marxist...