To think if someone thought that they could go and take a shit real quick right before the set began would have probably missed the entirety of Grand Finals really shows you the power of Mkleo. What a master.
MKLeo looks unbelievable in this game, no matter what character he is using. Samsora had a great run, especially with getting three 3-0s in a row. Good stuff to both players.
Drizzy Flex Leo pretty much shows what optimal play looks like with whichever character he chooses. It’s really impressive. 3-stocking and 3-0ing his opponent in winner’s side grand finals is a bit sus, though. I think he might be doing better with joker than he has with any other character so far, so people get the impression that joker is broken.
Cadence Early meta Ike did just as well. Leo is just this good, and he keeps changing characters, so he’s hard to figure out. I don’t think any other player could pull this off.
It doesn’t matter who he uses, people will find away to say the character he uses is broken. Despite the fact nobody else can do what he does with a character.
Keep in mind, Samsora wasn't just some dude. He 3-0'd Void, Marss and Ally in a row in order to get to GFs. And not only did MKLeo 3-0 him, but in 2 of those games he didn't lose a single stock. We've just witnessed the birth of a monster.
Honestly sam wasnt playing good at all. Ive seen him play Mkleos IKE, Lucina. He was always close to beating him, but it was always a 5 match last stock situation. Samsora just couldnt find an anwer to this matchup.
@@sndjdjsndnxj I would have to disagree. So many Joker players get bodied when playing him because he has such a high skill ceiling and starting point. You need to know the game before you start playing him to really even begin to get better at all. And being good with Joker isn't only getting kills while with arsene because thats "noob-like" in a sense. Look at Leo as an example, gets kills in and out of arsene, and he doesn't even need arsene all the time. Imagine Leo in a year or two because right now he's not even refined/perfected his Joker yet, he'll be insane and then, and only then be able to possibly contest Zero's 56 win streak 😂
wakosamurai it doesn’t matter how easy a character is to play, playing them at the level of this is automatically technical. Even little Mac would be somewhat interesting to watch if he was here.
Mrniceguy 818 he has been winning without Joker very consistently, just his Ike has been degrading recently due to the character itself. Overall a very versatile player who knows many different characters it seems (not JUST sword fighters, but mainly).
I really hope mkleo decides to just start using lil mac to win at tournaments so I can see all the comments on how lil mac is the best in the game and needs to be nerfed.
Joker is a good character, certainly, but Leo is just unbelievably good at this game. I've seen countless other people play Joker but it's almost as if Leo IS Joker and I'm just eating it up because he's so much fun to watch on screen.
Tweak: Im the best player Marss: Im the best player Samsora: im the best player Ally: Im the best player Dabuz: Im the best player Mkleo: hold my Dos XX
How long ago did Joker came out? Leo is a genious man.. Out of all the players in all the smash games Leo is the only one who I believe could win a tournament with almost every character in the game if he really wanted to.
@MAR'TE jenkins Arsene is kinda broken tho you cant disagree on that he kills way to early and does a lot of damage what I think normal joker should be buffed and Arsene should be nerfed a bit
@@angellius4606 Having stock lead and getting Arsene twice on the first stock is kinda insane. I think Arsene should be weaker with stock lead and vice versa.
Watching others helps me realize things I should do and things that I would be more comfortable not doing. It also helps me see some nice combos and what to do in different situations.
Leo really 3-0'd Samsora 3 times in one tournament. This man is insane, this might have been the most dominant showing I've ever seen in a tournament so far.
@@cesars.9912 Yes. Leo 3-0'd Samsora in Winners top 64 and won the set sending Samsora into losers. They they met again here, in grandfinals where he once again took the set with two 3 stock wins. Where are you seeing the problem with this?
QUIT YOUR RECENCY BIAS. Ever thought about how good MKLeo is?? So quick to jump to conclusions. “Joker is broken waaah!” Or maybe Leo is just really good? Even before Joker, he’s won tournaments. He’s always been a huge threat in bracket. Leo is the only prominent Joker as of now. Some of yall are straight up CLOWNS smh.
He isnt ... joker is obviously the best character BY FAR. Literally broken. Samsora and leo always have extremely good and close sets and u think all of a sudden Leo just transcended and became this untouchable God? This was so disappointing and frustrating to watch. I feel sorry for the other players.
biggest smash ultimate tournaments so far are : 1. GENESIS 6 2,105 entrants 2. Smash 'N' Splash 5 1,610 entrants 3. MomoCon 2019 1,250 entrants And MKleo won all of these ... No doubt he is the best player in the world .
Who thought he was mid tier? He's fast, has two projectiles, a million ways to keep you in disadvantage, and Limit Break on steroids. I knew he was good from day 1.
@@Anthon1996 I'd disagree with you, I think Leo just makes him that great, hence why no one else can play joker on his level (seemingly, as it didn't work out for void). Despite what you might think, his recovery is still Really susceptible to any lasting hitbox, he's also combo food dies relatively early. I also don't think people really take enough notice to this but arsene runs out faster when he's hit. While he gains damage and recovery, at his base, he's still the same character, so if you can push back and maybe even steal a stock, arsene won't matter.
@@CamFGC Interesting. Would you say the same kind of thing for Melee Jigglypuff and Hungrybox, since no one comes close to his level with that character?
LunarX But he did win with Ike and everybody was saying that Ike was definitely a top tier character, now Ike is mid tier. Yeah I guess they nerfed Ike really bad, same thing back when mkleo used meta Knight in smash 4. Mkleo is just so good at Smash Bros, joker may be broken but he really isn't the best character. Heck he even made Marth look broken in ultimate for a short time. Btw saying period is so cringy lmao
LunarX Joker definitely top tier but he ain’t the best character. Leo is just a god. He’s made characters like Ike and Marth look op and they’re mid tiers in most people’s lists
Haven't watched the full set yet but holy shit, at 1:53 leo uses the gun's side step to basically directional airdodge past samsora's Fair while not suffering the lag of an actual directional airdodge. Like, dear God, the man is on another level.
@@taxman7617 discord.gg/gRkmYp I don't hang out in clothespins server anymore. I hang it in this one instead. We usually have sessions. But im trash at smash now since I dedicated my tine on fighting games.
“Joker isn’t even that good, he’s mid tier at best.” Or, no one has really been able to completely utilize joker in the right way. Amazing gameplay by Mkleo
Zackray with his Joker , Rob , Wolf , PT , Lucina , Marth , Snake , Wario will have a decent shot in the future . He is a similar type of player to Leo and Tweek with how he is capable of playing multiple characters at a high level . He just needs to find more time to start grinding the game . He is still a student so he doesn't put the same amount of time in the game like these top 2 players .
FOR EVERYONE SAYING JOKER IS BROKEN No other player can use joker like leo does, Not even tweek If joker would ve broken everyone could use him like that Joker is fine right now
He isn't unbeatable per se, but his consistency and ability to adapt outclasses everyone by a large margin. You gotta dig extra deep to contest against leo. Tweek and marss has a grasp on how to beat him, but it isn't solidified.
Joker is fine. He’s not broken like people are claiming. Leo is just reaaallly good. There are multiple factors to consider instead of just the typical knee jerk reaction of “zomg he’s broken and needs nerfs.”
@@djack39 It's not his fault at all. He's just exceptionally tallented at the game. Won't stop people from crying out he needs to get nerfed though. I'm scared he actually will get a nerf eventually...
@@CoffeeCakeBun Oh Joker will get nerfed eventually for sure. Remember how they nerfed Zss in Smash 4 even tho Nairo was the only one using her ?...yeah, Joker is gonna get nerfed sooner or later.
@@zsoliddanys1083 you're right. He will. I just hope they don't kill his character with the nerfs. It's annoying how the call for nerfing is so rampant these days.
@@CoffeeCakeBun I dont think they will kill the character, Joker isnt OP enough to get overnerfed, they just need to make Arsene harder to summon and not make him last like 3 weeks and he's fine. But yeah, when characters win tournaments, they appear in the nerf list most of the times, happens in several fighting games nowdays. And honestly...seeing the same player winning everything gets boring and repetitive, i dont dislike Leo in the slightest but i wanna see someone else win besides Leo and Tweek 🤔.
Words cannot describe how much of a tear MKleo was on this set so much so that he cheesed out Samsora on his last stock at Game 3 zero to deathing him and 3 stocking him in the process
Are people honestly calling for Joker to get nerfed? What would you nerf? Rebellion guard? But it has a fuckload of counter play. There isn't a move in Joker's kit that doesn't have counter play. That's more than I can say for pre patch olimar
Leo's situational awareness is off the charts. On that last stock, he saved his double jump after the back throw, drifted in and tanked the nair, then double jumped at the right moment to snipe Samsora's double jump. That sequence was amazing. Joker is really good, and I can see the comparisons to Sheik. Good frame data, a really versatile tool kit, a really good limit-esque mechanic and counter rolled into one, and great combos. But Leo is indisputably good. Good game to both players.
Commentators: Will we see a sub 15-minute grand finals? MKleo: How about a sub 10-minute grand finals Two 3-stocks, 1 zero to death, and a 3-0. Insane.
Announcer: I think it’s safe to call this the tourname-
Mkleo: You right
adishero16 HBox - MKLeo on that Mexican wavelength
- "I think it's safe to call this the tournament"
*MkLeo teleports behind Samsora
- "Nothing personal kid"
@@vinjass not sure if this was a reference, but I died reading this lol
@@joshbradford7938 it's a meme about overpowered anime characters haha. Just search for "nothing personal kid" and you'll see a lot of them lol
@@vinjass MkLeo: Omae wa mou, shindeiru.
Samsora: NANI!?
Saw the length of the video and knew someone got destroyed
lmao
Leo doesn't even use 5% of his power in that match
Saw the length of the video and knew S A M S O R A got destroyed*
Really think vgbc should make those sets 15 minutes longer just so the length doesn't reveal the winner when someone's up 2:1 for example
Shiiiiit I saw sam playing palu and knew he got destroyed, if anyone could make him that desperate you know something’s up
This was the greatest Pools set I've ever seen.
ThreeEyedPea literally
I really wish that wishes would have put leo in loser's. It would have made this tourney so much more hype.
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm it's like Zero in sm4sh all over again.
@@DevenThaDude-xb2tm Ivysaur is busted and carries
@@DeltaTried This is the guy who finished ZeRo in Smash 4 after all.
That was the most horrific final stock I’ve ever seen
Linosek279 watch the LoL 2019’s Worlds XD
Minoru CI >.> how desperate
Leo: *Wins major with Joker*
Also Leo: Want to see me do it again?
then u see that samsora came from losers and u know who wins
Nice Spongebob reference.
Nice PFP
Alvin Alers
Clever SpongeBob reference 😂
DO IT AGAIN
Leo is like the main OP protaganist in an anime, beating everyone with whatever character he chooses
Samus - Alita then he loses to esam
Leo Ooal Gown
Ainz Ooal Leo lol
Saitama
One punch Leo :0
To think if someone thought that they could go and take a shit real quick right before the set began would have probably missed the entirety of Grand Finals really shows you the power of Mkleo.
What a master.
That’s why I always go first, barely eat, and then go for a nice dinner after the tournament.
Between loser finals and grands was about 15 minutes of ads and shit.
Nice button check, but where's grand finals?
😂
Hahahaha xD
Marss vs Leo :(
Gallade best Pokémon
😂😂😂
MKLeo looks unbelievable in this game, no matter what character he is using.
Samsora had a great run, especially with getting three 3-0s in a row. Good stuff to both players.
That wasnt even his final form, he didnt activate his *Spicy Jalapeño Madness* mode.
No matter what character he is using ? Idiot. He’s been looking unbelievable recently only cause of Joker, which is a broken character.
Mrniceguy 818 in what way Joker is broken wtf? He’s mid-high tier at best
@@chris40v17 Actually Inkling, Lucina and Peach are more broken than Joker.
Kevin Castillo joker def is top tier. Or at the very top of high tier. He’s not as busted as preNerf peach but he’s decently broken.
Every character leo touches becomes “broken”
Drizzy Flex Leo pretty much shows what optimal play looks like with whichever character he chooses. It’s really impressive. 3-stocking and 3-0ing his opponent in winner’s side grand finals is a bit sus, though. I think he might be doing better with joker than he has with any other character so far, so people get the impression that joker is broken.
Cadence Early meta Ike did just as well. Leo is just this good, and he keeps changing characters, so he’s hard to figure out. I don’t think any other player could pull this off.
But because of that, we get “Joker is broken” comments once a week, maybe even more for some people, Joker is not broken, the player is
Should we nerf Leo then? Maybe take away his spicy jalapeño sandwiches? Or break a couple of his fingers before every major tournament? 🤔 🤔 🤔
Drake Drax stop him from dying his hair anymore. His power increases exponentially every time that happens
It doesn’t matter who he uses, people will find away to say the character he uses is broken. Despite the fact nobody else can do what he does with a character.
Its like hbox
hard truth. it’s ridiculous
That is true, i remember him winning with Ike, when no other Ike could reach his rank
@@samus-alita4252 or Lucina, everyone claimed that Lucina was ultra broken and the best character, now is Joker
@@antonioio3437 Melee jig is broken though.
Keep in mind, Samsora wasn't just some dude. He 3-0'd Void, Marss and Ally in a row in order to get to GFs. And not only did MKLeo 3-0 him, but in 2 of those games he didn't lose a single stock. We've just witnessed the birth of a monster.
More like the birth of a Demon.
More like the birth of a demi-god
God is dead, and Leo killed him...
Taking the P4G anime as a benchmark, this is just canon NG+ Joker.
Honestly sam wasnt playing good at all. Ive seen him play Mkleos IKE, Lucina. He was always close to beating him, but it was always a 5 match last stock situation. Samsora just couldnt find an anwer to this matchup.
7:16 "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
WHAT CAREER?
3 stock
Under two minutes
0 to death ...
And just the first match lol
Just over two minutes*
This reminds me of how bad Fizz bodied me quite literally.
Game 3 was even better:
3 stock
Less than 100% on Leo
90 second game
Reverse edge guard
0 to death
Final stock lasted 10 seconds
not even 10 seconds in and samsora already throwing stuff at leo
MKLeo was eating his supper while Samsora was heating up his breakfast, good lord he bodied that boi xD
Eh, I prefer the one where a Bowser main bodied Cosmos, that was so hype to watch.
Jose Luis Trejo and then three stocks in a row . The whole tournament was super fun to watch
10 minute grand finals . . . ok
it was like 9 mins thay exstended the ending
*sees Samsora vs Leo* : oh boy this should be a god set
*sees time* : welp...
Casters: *samsora has been destroying everyone so maybe we will have an even match*
MkLeo: hold my arsene
GrandmasterDjCade Well isn’t there set count in ultimate so far like 10+ to 0 Leo being the one with 10+?
@@genesisosuna MkLeo is on New Game+ while we filthy mortals are on Kamoshida
Leo is the one who sent Samsora to losers...
Smash community: Joker isn't that good.
Leo: hold my sombrero
@@jbourdeth1996 good frame data and relatively easy combos? I suck at smash and I'm able to use joker decently
@@sndjdjsndnxj I would have to disagree. So many Joker players get bodied when playing him because he has such a high skill ceiling and starting point. You need to know the game before you start playing him to really even begin to get better at all.
And being good with Joker isn't only getting kills while with arsene because thats "noob-like" in a sense. Look at Leo as an example, gets kills in and out of arsene, and he doesn't even need arsene all the time. Imagine Leo in a year or two because right now he's not even refined/perfected his Joker yet, he'll be insane and then, and only then be able to possibly contest Zero's 56 win streak 😂
Joker isn't that good. Like he's really good but not some sort of bayo or even close to it. I would put joker maybe in top 10 if that
wakosamurai it doesn’t matter how easy a character is to play, playing them at the level of this is automatically technical. Even little Mac would be somewhat interesting to watch if he was here.
Literally no one ever: Joker isn't that good
damn this was so tragic.
leo is on another level. natural born player
He is like a year ahead of the Ultimate Meta I swear
No, joker is just a broken character. He would probably lose to Marss, Nairo, Tweek or Samsora if he didn’t used the OP Joker
Mrniceguy 818 he has been winning without Joker very consistently, just his Ike has been degrading recently due to the character itself. Overall a very versatile player who knows many different characters it seems (not JUST sword fighters, but mainly).
@@chris40v17 Why is he the only good Joker then?
Mrniceguy 818 How is Joker a broken character? A clearly good character=broken, I guess
Smash community is dumb as usual
We saw Leo using 50% of his power here.
More like mhh... 35%....?
probably less since he's beaten samsora multiple times now.
5.0%
ftfy
He use his 100% against Tweek in momocon and here maybe a 30%(?)
You forgot the decimal between the 5 and the 0
MKLeo out here looking like the new ZeRo.
when’s the 50 streak coming haha
Watch him retire right before Smash 6 comes out lmao
With the diddy buffs i hope that Zero attends a Tournament again even If it is just some locals
He's way more entertaining to watch than ZeRo. He seems a lot less arrogant too.
@@EthanArco Zero had a 50 tourney streak really?
Leo, come on man, at least make it look even.
MkLeo was using at least 30% of his power here...
Mkleo saw this comment so he decided to alwayss go into the losers set to make it seem even
I really hope mkleo decides to just start using lil mac to win at tournaments so I can see all the comments on how lil mac is the best in the game and needs to be nerfed.
😂 YES!!!
Marss tweets: little macs Ariels are way to broken plus the recovery is way to broken
(Only joking)
this is something zero would have done, leo need something else...how about playing with joy cons?
LITTLE MAC SUCKS all the fun from the game - dumbass#10,000 (don't remember what he said lol.)
I just wanna see MKLeo pick up Piranha Plant and everyone desperately beg for Plant nerfs
Not surprised, MkLeo is really good.
Yeah
Good doesnt describe his skill.
bruh grand finals = 10 mins
2 3 stocks and 3-0 holy shit
@@tulio.guitar 2 zero to death one was getting samsora to 14 percent
2:33 I laughed so hard when the cameras panned over to Samsora sitting there like a statue
WhosHenryy it’s so sad cuz samsora is an actual top player but he doesn’t have a win under his belt
Joker is a good character, certainly, but Leo is just unbelievably good at this game. I've seen countless other people play Joker but it's almost as if Leo IS Joker and I'm just eating it up because he's so much fun to watch on screen.
«Joker is a natural sword user»
*Uses a dagger*
Master Kohga Incorrect he is a persona user easy explanation
MkLeo got a:
-3 stock,
-0% to death
-3-0 Set
vs Tweek, Samsora and Marss
Tweak: Im the best player
Marss: Im the best player
Samsora: im the best player
Ally: Im the best player
Dabuz: Im the best player
Mkleo: hold my Dos XX
Leo is so good he's making every character he uses seem broken
@Brothan323 low high tier
Mid high tier with arsene tho
Joker is a high a tier
Missing mid high tier with arsene nah dude imo joker is at least top 3 with arsene
Missing mid high tier with arsene nah dude imo joker is at least top 3 with arsene
Missing mid high tier with arsene nah dude imo joker is at least top 3 with arsene
Samsora: I'm going all out!!
Leo: Really? I'm still in my base form :)
How long ago did Joker came out?
Leo is a genious man.. Out of all the players in all the smash games Leo is the only one who I believe could win a tournament with almost every character in the game if he really wanted to.
No you're giving him way too much credit
I DARE HIM TO WITH LITTLE MAC lmao.
vaderglenn Then people will start saying little mac is broken too.
People call characters broken based on footage like this lol
@MAR'TE jenkins Arsene is kinda broken tho you cant disagree on that he kills way to early and does a lot of damage what I think normal joker should be buffed and Arsene should be nerfed a bit
@@turothescrub6830 that defeats the purpose of a comeback system 😒
@@angellius4606 It's a pretty flawed comeback system.
@@angellius4606 Having stock lead and getting Arsene twice on the first stock is kinda insane. I think Arsene should be weaker with stock lead and vice versa.
If you're afraid of Arsene, just attack. It goes away quicker with damage taken. Stop running like a wimp.
I love how he is only 18, I can't even imagine how good he will become with more experience
Once again MKLeo denies Samsora his first major tournament win. This is the third time it's happened.
Toon Link it’s gonna keep happening at this rate
Going against Leo is like taking a butter knife to a gun fight at this point. He's on another level
The funny thing is that Joker has both.
Butter knives actually can cut bullets........
Lmao mkleo was like peace ✌️ thanks for the cash
Mkleo: Using Joker and bodying everybody winning majors
Me, a peasant joker main: nomnomnomnomnomnom all this yummy data 🤤😁
You can copy his joker but you can't copy leo
Watching others helps me realize things I should do and things that I would be more comfortable not doing. It also helps me see some nice combos and what to do in different situations.
配信でいろんなプレイヤーのジョーカー見てきたけどLeoジョーカーは狂ってるな…かっけぇ!おめでとうMkLeo!!
I don't know what kind of hyperbolic time training that leo had in Japan but after that it seems like he came back to North America a God.
Singani Mantina it’s the hair.
The audience was almost too late to even chant 3 stock at the end.
MkLeo, such a talented and humble player! We need more like you!!
Humble? What vid were you watching
Is other day in the office for Leo.
Leo really 3-0'd Samsora 3 times in one tournament. This man is insane, this might have been the most dominant showing I've ever seen in a tournament so far.
3 times?
@@cesars.9912 Once in their top 64 match and Twice in this set.
@@marche800 Leo was in winners tho lmao
@@cesars.9912 Yes. Leo 3-0'd Samsora in Winners top 64 and won the set sending Samsora into losers. They they met again here, in grandfinals where he once again took the set with two 3 stock wins. Where are you seeing the problem with this?
@@marche800 im seeing the problem in that Leo only 3-0d samsora 2 times this tournament there was no third
Didn't know AGDQ was already on. This Leo guy is pretty good.
Lol
"How do you stop this Mexican child?"
Gotta build a wall around Leo so he can't see the Tv
QUIT YOUR RECENCY BIAS. Ever thought about how good MKLeo is??
So quick to jump to conclusions. “Joker is broken waaah!”
Or maybe Leo is just really good? Even before Joker, he’s won tournaments. He’s always been a huge threat in bracket. Leo is the only prominent Joker as of now.
Some of yall are straight up CLOWNS smh.
Straight up JOKERS 👀
Dude literally everyone one says this for every character he plays.
Nobody is really saying that tbh, we all know Leo is a sick player, he was number 1 at the end of smash 4
@@shrek3747 are you blind? my man go look on Twitter or even in the comments in this video. All the butthurt people are saying joker is broken
Shrek *coughs* marss on Twitter
Man, Samsora looked so broken and destroyed
MkLeo is the best player rn, no doubt
He isnt ... joker is obviously the best character BY FAR. Literally broken. Samsora and leo always have extremely good and close sets and u think all of a sudden Leo just transcended and became this untouchable God? This was so disappointing and frustrating to watch. I feel sorry for the other players.
@@ThatOneScienceGuy The best player in the world, only Tweek can compite with him
Alejandro Torres Tweek got fucked at Momocon by Leo
Robert Cartwright people said that when he was using Ike and then the same when he was using Lucina...
@@gozololuzbacio2394 Leo is just godlik3
biggest smash ultimate tournaments so far are :
1. GENESIS 6 2,105 entrants
2. Smash 'N' Splash 5 1,610 entrants
3. MomoCon 2019 1,250 entrants
And MKleo won all of these ... No doubt he is the best player in the world .
Man when joker dropped everyone said he was going to be mid tier but my man Leo is making this character look GOD TIER!!!
Leo actually thinks Joker is God-tier.
Who thought he was mid tier? He's fast, has two projectiles, a million ways to keep you in disadvantage, and Limit Break on steroids. I knew he was good from day 1.
@@Anthon1996 I'd disagree with you, I think Leo just makes him that great, hence why no one else can play joker on his level (seemingly, as it didn't work out for void). Despite what you might think, his recovery is still Really susceptible to any lasting hitbox, he's also combo food dies relatively early. I also don't think people really take enough notice to this but arsene runs out faster when he's hit. While he gains damage and recovery, at his base, he's still the same character, so if you can push back and maybe even steal a stock, arsene won't matter.
@@CamFGC Interesting. Would you say the same kind of thing for Melee Jigglypuff and Hungrybox, since no one comes close to his level with that character?
Joker: Mid tier
Joker/Arsene: Top tier
Overall high tier imo.
Top 10 Brutal Anime Deaths
congratulations Leo, is he even human...?? someone has to say it, he could be a cyborg!!! :/
*mew2king types furiously*
Mexico baby 🇲🇽
*Mexico intensifies*
Cyborgs are by definition human.
that endgame reference at 7:30
Nerfs: I am inevitable * snap releases patch*
*nothing happens*
Leo: and i... am... broken * snap plays joker theme*
Thanos never saw it COMIIIIIIIIIN
@@Dillo64 brilliant
Leo wins a tournament:
The rest of the world every time he does: ThE ChAraCtEr iS BroKEN
He's won tournaments with Mewtwo and nobody calls him broken. Joker is just the best character in the game. Period.
LunarX But he did win with Ike and everybody was saying that Ike was definitely a top tier character, now Ike is mid tier. Yeah I guess they nerfed Ike really bad, same thing back when mkleo used meta Knight in smash 4.
Mkleo is just so good at Smash Bros, joker may be broken but he really isn't the best character. Heck he even made Marth look broken in ultimate for a short time. Btw saying period is so cringy lmao
LunarX Joker definitely top tier but he ain’t the best character. Leo is just a god. He’s made characters like Ike and Marth look op and they’re mid tiers in most people’s lists
@@markcarls1896 I desagree
MKleo pulling no stops this grand finals, he was absolutely ruthless the first game.
Haven't watched the full set yet but holy shit, at 1:53 leo uses the gun's side step to basically directional airdodge past samsora's Fair while not suffering the lag of an actual directional airdodge. Like, dear God, the man is on another level.
@JenoPC Yep. It takes a lot of skill but it is possible. Joker's side dodges with his Gun ARE usable in mid-air.
Leo's reaction to winning Smash N' Splash vs Wizzy's reaction speaks volumes about the amount of energy that went into the two grand finals
Tate Stewart Fan Club Tbf that was Wizzy’s first major I believe(?) and Leo is just a cyborg
Tbf, Leo kinda expects to win. Wizzy shouldn't expect it as much
Interesting seeing a Grand Finals lasting less than ten minutes.
Mkleo is Mexican
...That he is...
@Diego Cifuentes Since the dawn of time or whatever.
MI*Dylan Caldwell
Yes
That drag down up air to grab to up air for the kill in game one made me explode
I now believe "MKLeo" is the best Smash Bros Ultimate player in the world. Im sorry Tweek.
its been true for several tournaments, idk why people are saying such an inconsistent player like Tweek matches mkleo
Why are Hispanics good at smash lol?
@@vDeadbolt When are we gonna play man? Its been a long time.
@@taxman7617 discord.gg/gRkmYp
I don't hang out in clothespins server anymore. I hang it in this one instead. We usually have sessions. But im trash at smash now since I dedicated my tine on fighting games.
Samsora shouldn’t even feel bad, Leo is just on a other plane of existence.
“Joker isn’t even that good, he’s mid tier at best.”
Or, no one has really been able to completely utilize joker in the right way. Amazing gameplay by Mkleo
Is this melee? MKleo's movement is insane :0
Almost moving as fast as a decent Melee Link, insane
We need to call Zackray back to U.S. to beat MkLeo, with his own joker.
Zackray with his Joker , Rob , Wolf , PT , Lucina , Marth , Snake , Wario will have a decent shot in the future . He is a similar type of player to Leo and Tweek with how he is capable of playing multiple characters at a high level . He just needs to find more time to start grinding the game . He is still a student so he doesn't put the same amount of time in the game like these top 2 players .
Never ditto Leo
Shuton is better.
FOR EVERYONE SAYING JOKER IS BROKEN
No other player can use joker like leo does, Not even tweek
If joker would ve broken everyone could use him like that
Joker is fine right now
Exactly! Joker is great, top tier no doubt, but he isn’t broken. Leo’s just that damn good.
I hope Leo doesn't get Joker nerfed...
SeñorDiablo that’s what people said about Ike
Oh he will.
And y'all wanna say tweek is on his level lmfao
Andy Ruiz knocked out AJ and took his three belts yesterday and today mk leo wins this today, let's go 🇺🇲🇲🇽
MKLeo: I’m the SmashUltimate Champion
ZeRo: Hold my beer
*ZeRo never showed his face in a smash tournament ever again*
Zero didn’t even make it to Leo back at SCU.
He isn't unbeatable per se, but his consistency and ability to adapt outclasses everyone by a large margin. You gotta dig extra deep to contest against leo. Tweek and marss has a grasp on how to beat him, but it isn't solidified.
Samsora was looking crazy good this tournamen-
Leo: Let me just destroy this man's career real quick
MK Leo: "It be like that sometimes."
Also MK Leo: "It really do be like that sometimes..."
Joker is fine. He’s not broken like people are claiming. Leo is just reaaallly good.
There are multiple factors to consider instead of just the typical knee jerk reaction of “zomg he’s broken and needs nerfs.”
范T I remember they said Ike was broken but mk Leo just makes people look really bad, not his fault
@@djack39 It's not his fault at all. He's just exceptionally tallented at the game. Won't stop people from crying out he needs to get nerfed though. I'm scared he actually will get a nerf eventually...
@@CoffeeCakeBun Oh Joker will get nerfed eventually for sure.
Remember how they nerfed Zss in Smash 4 even tho Nairo was the only one using her ?...yeah, Joker is gonna get nerfed sooner or later.
@@zsoliddanys1083 you're right. He will. I just hope they don't kill his character with the nerfs. It's annoying how the call for nerfing is so rampant these days.
@@CoffeeCakeBun I dont think they will kill the character, Joker isnt OP enough to get overnerfed, they just need to make Arsene harder to summon and not make him last like 3 weeks and he's fine.
But yeah, when characters win tournaments, they appear in the nerf list most of the times, happens in several fighting games nowdays.
And honestly...seeing the same player winning everything gets boring and repetitive, i dont dislike Leo in the slightest but i wanna see someone else win besides Leo and Tweek 🤔.
Words cannot describe how much of a tear MKleo was on this set so much so that he cheesed out Samsora on his last stock at Game 3 zero to deathing him and 3 stocking him in the process
Are people honestly calling for Joker to get nerfed? What would you nerf? Rebellion guard? But it has a fuckload of counter play.
There isn't a move in Joker's kit that doesn't have counter play. That's more than I can say for pre patch olimar
How often he gets arsene and counter hitbox, that's about it
Que pinche chinga le puso Leo a Samsora, increíble espectáculo que dio, Leo best player 💪
@Beto La verdad, me caga ese gordo super inflado, ya no ha hecho nada en ultimate pero su fandom sigue mamandosela
Well... That was anti-climatic.
No pop off after grandfinals...next level taunts coming from Leo 0_o
To be fair it wasn't that close where you naturally pop off
MkLeo: I am inevitable!
ZeRo: and I'm...... competing..... at CEO, EVO, SMASH CON and the Big House with my buffed Diddy Kong!!!!
ZeRo: and I am ZeRo
Why does everyone think zero is a god or something? He couldn’t get top 8 at a regional.
Samsora is so desperate that he changes into palutena..
Well to be fair, Joker is actually super tough for Peach/Daisy :/ but on top of that Leo is just killing everything rn
@@Runner4Life543 true but from what I've seen I've never witnessed samsora switch from peach.
Mr.PourTheMilkFirst, a single peach combo gives arsene, there was no reason to not switch.
@@biffyguybiffy6292 I'm not saying there wasnt a reason I'm just saying I've never seen him do it.
Mkleo... is anyone safe from that demon
Mkleo is no demon
He’s the goddamn Devil himself
Zero was, until we pushed him away
Echoesoftimelover yeah but mostly everyone was beating zero at the end
Ken Toast Bayonetta said hello
Victor k this is what Trump tried to warn us about
This is one of the most dominant sets I've love seeing Mkleo pushing Joker to his limits
who’s back after sam won shine?
had no doubt leo would win. Good stuff champ. I always look forward to watching you play. Keep going :)
Leo out here looking like John wick
Leo's situational awareness is off the charts. On that last stock, he saved his double jump after the back throw, drifted in and tanked the nair, then double jumped at the right moment to snipe Samsora's double jump. That sequence was amazing. Joker is really good, and I can see the comparisons to Sheik. Good frame data, a really versatile tool kit, a really good limit-esque mechanic and counter rolled into one, and great combos. But Leo is indisputably good.
Good game to both players.
Best 0 - to death in the set at 9:20 lol
5:30 Leo drifting from smash zone to floor and holding his fastfall nair 1... that timing...
Leo is the new ZeRo. We'll be here for the long haul while he stomps every tourney he can get to.
Dead outside it’s funny, I was thinking the same exact thing, except I don’t think zero ever had the same amount of diversity in his character pool
What a hero. Peace sign and leaves. Leo is a beast
ZeRo is comin back with buffed Diddy bois
I'm watting that.
No he isn’t. He’s attended one tournament and didn’t even get top 8.
Leo knows something about Ultimate that no one else does. He’s insane
This is Legendary.
I really don’t know why MKLeo wants to nerf Joker tho
JAJAJAJA LOL 😂
Best part about this guy dominating is the Persona 5 end battle theme playing in the background and him just shrugging his shoulders like a badass...
trihex hungrybox and coney, they really got the allstar team on coms
Orson Don’t you mean Trihex, Coney, and Coney?
Commentators: Will we see a sub 15-minute grand finals?
MKleo: How about a sub 10-minute grand finals
Two 3-stocks, 1 zero to death, and a 3-0. Insane.
Alberto Mejia 2 Zero deaths. I think the last stock technically counts.
Son: daddy why won't they nerf joker
Daddy: no son they need to nerf mkleo
Smash and Splash looks like such a festive event