they didn't know what they were dealing with at first; the host could've been a laymen who knew little-ot-nothing about technical stuff, so they had to keep it general at first
@@RandomPhail nah they know them for sure, DF have highlighted Crytek fora long time, and they also helped with QA for Crysis 2 and 3 re-releases. I believe they are credited in the credits for those. John and Alex have visited Crytek offices.
Literally the only Shooter im playing for almost 3 years,now. Switched from Xbox to PC about 5 months ago. No other shooter makes me so paranoid. The sound design is just phenomenal.
@@Pinoisreadingabook Not if it's set up right and implemented correctly in-game by the devs. Alan Wake 2, RDR2 (Now has HDR10+) are great examples of proper implementation. Filmmaker mode for UHD bluray is also fantastic.
@@infernaltim HDR means that you have increased dynamic range, there shouldn't be any clipping in the sky. This problem has nothing to do with how shadowy areas and bosses are presented
This looks so much better to me than some 720p FSR abomination. Who cares about better lighting or assets if it’s hidden behind blurry mess image quality.
tbf, I think most of these games (apart from aveum) just have 60 FPS performance modes tucked on, but are really games developed from the bottom up for the 30fps visuals modes (where the better lighting/assets are not hidden behind anything)
I LOVE these types of videos with in-depth technical talks with developers. Plus, you can't do much better when it comes to technical aspects than talking with Crytek. Great video!
it deserves so much more attention - its really unique and such a thought through well designed experience, whether it be the fantastic sound design, art style or game play.
after 4,5k hours in hunt I would say it rather anal jam - zero level of attention to the technical part of the servers, mechanics and balance. Everything they say here is just beautiful words and has little common with actual picture of hunt
@markgolenkov4951 so after thousands of hours have been invested, the game isn't exactly what you specifically want it to be, which makes it trash? Yeah. I've literally never known anyone who put that much time into one game and didn't come away complaining exactly the way you are now, honestly. Time to move on bro, it's never going to be designed for you specifically and it's never going to be perfect, so your standards will never be met.
Cryengine's approach to realtime lightning is so so much better than Unreal's stupid expensive Lumen. Svogi is awesome. The rendering in this game is amazing.. however there's some real low quality assets in here, surprisingly. When it come to geometric and texture details I don't see anything better here than in Crysis 3 all these years ago.
@@astrea555 thats because lumen is supposed to pretty easy to implement for custom engines like this you still have to bake a lot games like this, ff16 or demon souls remake have excellent lighting on par with lumen but its not as easy also this does look better than crisis 3 remastered i suggest watching some gameplay your memory might be a bit fuzzy also its not better looking than crisis 1 remastered which actually benefited the most from the upgrades and actually has SVOGI implementation unlike crisis 2 and 3 remastered
Lumen is amazing even in software form. Both Lumen and this approach are vastly inferior to genuine path tracing like RTXDI/GI, but all are impressive in and of themselves.
Unreal did have SVOGI or a form of voxel gi back in ue4, but they dropped it pretty early. Also lumen is a more 'next gen' tech that is pretty scalable and does its job, but needs more time to cook. SVOGI is nice, but it has some pretty big limitation it self with a big one being that it doesnt work as well with dynamic objects (its best used with static geometry). It also can cause some noise and ghosting. Any form of GI is gonna be expensive and/or have some big limitations. As @Wobbothe3rd pointed out the only way to have the best implementation is through Ray Tracing/Path Tracing.
I almost thought that Alex forgot to ask about Crysis 4, but it was very clear that he had every intention to when he mentioned that he had a question he wasn't expecting an answer to! so yeah, looking forward to a path traced Crysis 4!
Agreed, Reflex support would be nice too. I’d also like them to take a hard look at their VRAM usage - on my 5800X / 3070 rig if I dare use more than Medium textures I start getting very nasty stuttering. Feelsbadman
@@BlindBisonwhat size monitor and rez you playing at? I've got a ryzen 3600 and 2060 on a ultra wide 4k monitor at medium setting getting between 60-100 frames but drops to 30 inside some compounds. But I'm not playing in native 4K I'm upscaling using Nvidia NIS
OMG another DF HDR video. These are a rare treat. (HDR is great it's a shame the content isn't more available. I know the production pipelines are a nightmare, so it's understandable). I do not get to use the HDR benefits of my monitor as often as I'd like.
I love Hunt: Showdown, but unfortunately the performance hasn't been great for me after the latest upgrade. With a Ryzen 5600x and a RTX 3070 I get about 120 FPS with everything on lowest, but in some compounds it can dip into the 20s. I assume it's the VRam. A proper DF analasys would be much appreachiated!
Turn fog down to low and then boost everything else. The fog stuff changes basically nothing visible while taking up a ton of performance, and also maybe try the dlss and see how you feel about it
Put VRAM usage ingame to 70%, helps with most people that have 8gb VRAM. For me game runs pretty well on 3440x1440 resolution with 7900XT, on high preset(some things on medium) i get stable 144fps, with low 1% around 130.
It's really great to hear about CryEngine still pushing forwards. I hope you're able to do one of these talks with the Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 team when that comes out next year.
I would love if CryEngine became more of an industry standard. The low performance requirement, amazing visuals and the incredible scalability (Steam Deck running Hunt attractively at Low, 50fps/Hz and FSR Performance at only 9W), well it just makes UE5 feel so slow, noisy, stuttery, and unattractive in comparison. I really wish Crytek the best, your technology is gold standard!
That was a really fun and insightful interview! I love when developers talk about their games.
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Great interview! Love these videos and love the move to HDR! You might want to lower the luminance level for the white UI elements and text. Currently they overpower all other elements in the frame when displayed. Lowing to just 80% of it's current value would make the rest of the footage pop a lot more and they would still look "white" on an HDR display. but again, you content is amazing as usual! Looking forward to many more of these videos :)
I was literally thinking about asking you guys to investigate the changes in Hunt after the engine upgrade! super happy to see this video come across my feed!
This for me actually the best looking game with the most immersive gameplay and sounddesign. I i play this game with the max settings on my 7900xtx with a uwqhd monitor always above 140 fps without fsr scaling and it has no single framedrop and it also runs perfectly fine with the perfect frametime. No shader stutters, no glitches and crashes. My friend with a 2060 super can run as well in full hd with 80 fps in medium and 60 on high without a problem, the engine scales with the systems really well.
man I love Crytek and I was just using my C1 in HDR mode, fantastic timing. Interesting to see a Crytek video showcasing HDR too considering I was just replaying the Crysis Remastered trilogy and was really disapointed to see absolutely no HDR support on PC..
Huh, I could have sworn they supported HDR. Checking it looks like only the first game did, I remember when LTT was looking at it they were really disappointed in the HDR presentation (Like it was actively terrible) but that could also be that they were using the original Samsung G9 with the fakeDR panel. I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and ditched it for 2 and 3?
If you have a RTX card, you could use RTX HDR I tried it on crysis 3 and to me it looked really good on my oled but I also agree it kinda sucks that there’s no native HDR support on these games.
Dear god, PBR techniques are pretty crazy. Specifying the melanin content of the hair, to determine ultimate color is at both incredible, and terrifying. It definitely increases the realism of the imagine, but I wonder how it effects the design process of the artists.
Dear developers, why are you using the outdated version of DLSS in your updated engine? Do you think that players are satisfied with the blurry mess instead of the steady image that the current DLSS 3.7+ can provide?
@@someusername1872 According to comments on reddit, after replacing nvngx_dlss.dll, DLSS option in the game becomes unavailable. EAC probably considers the file replacement as a violation of the integrity of the game files and simply blocks it. But the game looks just awful with DLSS 2.3.1
I tried and it doesn't work with DLSS Tweaks (github), but it let's me force DLAA, which has a lot more performance than the ingame Antialiasing and looks even better. EAC did nothing, doing this since the update. @@someusername1872
@@someusername1872 According to comments on reddit, after replacing nvngx_dlss.dll, DLSS option in the game becomes unavailable. EAC probably considers the file replacement as a violation of the integrity of the game files and simply blocks it. But the game looks just awful with DLSS 2.3.1
They'll just drop the bitrate to save on bandwidth like everyone does. Despite using AV1, Netflix's quality at anything but 4K HDR is pretty bad because they just reduced the bitrate to keep the quality as low as people will accept and I'm sure UA-cam does the same
I'm happy that the engine is being further developed and you're always bringing new things. But it's also very important that you work on this netcode and the servers. Rubber banding is a big problem, as are these trades. I don't understand why this isn't being worked on, especially since this is extremely important for a shooter.
Man, I always loved the lightning and the shading in CryEngine, too bad not enough games use that engine. Nowadays most of games just have that UE look :/
@@kukuricapica their UI framework still relies on Adobe Animate and ActionScript. They said 2 years ago though that the next commercial iteration of cryengine will have its own UI implementation. I'm very hopeful.
@@kukuricapica i think it just have to do the same with any type of tech: resource pool such as a market place and how many people know how to use it and its performance. UE is being used even on architecture.
Love the game but devs PLEASE add an render scale option that allows setting the render resolution higher than 100%. A lot of modern monitors do not allow technologies like Nvidia DSR. Resolution is super important in hunt because of the shimmering of foliage and ability to spot players. DLSS if fine but even quality at native is not nearly sharp enough.
I like the HDR, but you still need to do some colour correction, Alex looking overly bright, and blacks are lifted too much. you can't just record in HDR and expect it to look good. Just my constructive criticism, I mean use something like DaVinci resolve, they have a good Auto Colour correction for HDR.
I expected to see criticism and praise, but this is just an interview... Flickering textures? Horrible FPS drops? DLSS 2.1 without the ability to replace DLL file?! Online Hunt is now at the level or lower than it was before due to greatly increased requirements, worse sound positioning and terrible UI.
I'd absolutely love an "optimized settings" video, Alex. I've been playing Hunt pretty consistently since late 2018; The game's fidelity on PC definitely took a hit when they released it on the now-previous-gen consoles. And this latest update has felt like a return to form for Crytek. I'd also love a single player (or co-op? eh?!) campaign in the world of Hunt. It'd be a sort of "yup, we're still here" move from Crytek. Though I guess that's what Crysis 4 is shaping up to be.
Yeah, this game annihilates 8 gigabyte GPUs. If you lower the vram usage target and use medium textures with balanced image reconstruction it blows past the 8 gigs fast. I get nasty nasty stuttering now on my 3070 unless I majorly then down the texture quality / quality presets - but then the game winds up looking a lot worse of course than it does here in these DF videos.
Best pvp game on the planet, no other game gives you this much adrenaline rush. Also, it has the best sound effects I've ever heard in a game, pure masterclass of a game. Play it, dont just take my word.
i dont know what happened to the render distance in the new update, but even on very high/ultra settings you can clearly see the radius from your character where shadows render in as you move
good call on HDR Alyx, this game looks nuts in HDR. I opened this on my Iphone 15 and the minute it said HDR, i said i need to watch this on bigger HDR screen.
everything is great except the UI. its the most unintuitive, designed by a madman, netflix/hulu call of doody garbage ive ever seen. redesign the UI crytek. PLEASE. redditors made better menu UI design.
Is it me or when you turn on dlss it’s blurry? Ive tried all the quality presets and it remains blurry? If there is a remedy for this please let me know.
I’ve noticed when the game bogs down sometimes on PS5 in certain POIs or when things get really hairy the screen starts tearing. Wonder if they are using VSYNC at all.
No updated version of DLSS or frame gen? To most, gameplay is king, then performance, then graphics. Graphics are nice to get you in the door but gameplay and performance keep you around. Crytek never took performance seriously and I think its always hurt them in sales and reputation.
@@MelvinGundlach No they didn't it was just optimized for console, they were FORCED to make it run well for that reason alone, as we saw with the more linear levels and closed off map design. When they added tessellation and other PC only features they bungled that too. Users found out that everything (including the ocean below the map) was rendering at FULL tessellation despite being out of view.
If they fix the awful fps drops, stutters in all kinds of situations, hundreds of old, new and returning bugs, tradekilling, move to servers that don't run at 30hz tickrate on a good day, rework their hit registration and fulfill at least 5% of the promises made leading up to the update then this would be a great game.
@@sergiopery Yes? WTF is your point "they lied about their release and gave you a broken product why do you complain" ???? There is a reason it sits at mostly negative and has lower player numbers than before the "upgrade". Also "runs better for me" because you use upscalers. There is no way it runs better than before without them unless you were mega CPU limited.
@@KungThulhu no upscaler, native res, I can now crank up the settings to very high and it runs at the same 100fps as before, what promise did Crytek break that it also broke your heart? Have you mentioned it to your therapist? Game looks INSANELY good now, sucks to be you.
Sadly since they apparently got rid of DX11 completely in favor of DX12 only, the VRAM usage even at all Low settings is off the charts. For example: 4K Res before the update: 5gb VRAM After: 8gb VRAM This causes huge playability issues for people with 8GB VRAM or less, which you can see several threads of people complaining about huge FPS drops, not realizing the game is now hitting this VRAM limit. Basically you need at least a 10gb VRAM card, if not 12 or 16gb now(based on graphics settings).
@@mungojerrie86 my thoughts exactly, the fastest 8gb GPU is probably a 3070ti. which is more so for 1440p and high fps 1080p. Yes the VRAM increase sucks, but its the way it goes, 8gb in 2024 depending on what you're using it for really is at the limit.
@@16valveBravoSpoonz 8 GB was available in mainstream (upper midrange to be specific) in 2015 from AMD and then in 2016 from Nvidia. It is unfathomable they some people still consider 8 GB of VRAM to be appropriate for anything but the low end.
Man, im excited you gave little old hunt some attention. This is thee best fps game around. And deserves praise for its efforts and achievements. Love to guys. Also ty for the lantino skins, i love um. Give me more lol
This update is amazing. Not perfect but I’ve been playing every day since launch and Im still blown away by how much better the game looks and feels now
I tried that and it does not fully resolve the issue for me. Even if you tone the texture quality way down and move that down to 70 I still get lots of visible “jitter” / stuttering camera motion after the update. I have a 5800x / 3070 rig with a high refresh Gsync panel.
@BlindBison same here the game jutters offen, I mean I have a dated card but the orignal game ran like a dream on my 5700xt and now in select areas of the map ot drops to 45 no matter the settings or fsr.
@@BlindBison some ppl have reported that disabling the geforce experience highlight recording or the geforce overlay (completely) helped stabilize their fps. and I agree, something in the game currently feeld like it's leaking VRAM or something, I get these weird slowdowns too (3080 10gb)
@@BMW-sd6nn grizzly lodge and gray stone pit in particular seem to be having performance issues. oddly enough, one time I spawned ing ray stone my fps there was completely fine. maybe something related to streaming in the compound assets upon entering it (via traversal instead of spawning) is broken, idk
9:19 hasnt RE Engine had this option since RE2make? Capcom even implemented it into MHWorld on Iceborne's launch iirc pretty sure this was brought into Hunt prior to the engine upgrade to
It runs wayyyyy worse now on my amd pc, and fsr isn't helping in select areas of the new map. I'm talking like 40 fps drop no matter settings or fsr. The orignal game ran amazing and still looked beautiful.
Performance: I personally havent had a single crash with my rig yet. Im getting rock solid 150-200fps on 1440p, with a Very High preset and DLSS on quality (7800x3d/4080). Sure i was getting more fps before, but the game looks so much better, there was 0 chance the performance would stay the same. I could run on Ultra if i wanted to, but i prefer to sacrifice a bit of visual fidelity to gain competitive advantage (on ultra i get around 90-140 fps). UI: once i learned the shortcuts, navigating the menus became easier. It's definitely not a great UI, and they need to tweak some stuff to speed up gearing up for a game, but i really don't think it's so bad that it deserves the shitstorm of negative reviews it's been getting. People need to chill. (I know they won't though). The devs know we didnt like the UI, however shitting on it non stop on steam just pushes new potential players away from the game. We all want more players in the game, it makes matchmaking better for everyone, as well as providing funds for the devs to continue developing the game. The game is not a smash hit by any metric, shich it definitely deserves. Ive played many fps games in the past, Hunt is definitely one of the bestter ones out there, yet its not very popular. This is their chance to bring more people in. It must be so deflating for the devs fo see this one chance they have slip away. Sure they messed up with some stuff, but honenstly this reaction is so overblown it makes me want to stop associating myself with the gaming community. The older i get the more toxic it becomes.
I wish I had better internet at my current apartment. Hunt Showdown is brilliant. I played it for years before moving. It’s the only online competitive game I’ve really enjoyed in the last decade. I highly recommend it to anyone curious. Steep learning curve, a bit like Souls that way, but once it hooks you it really hooks you.
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I like how at the beginning he was being a bit general and then you got him to open the nerd trapdoor and it took off
they didn't know what they were dealing with at first; the host could've been a laymen who knew little-ot-nothing about technical stuff, so they had to keep it general at first
@@RandomPhailhuh? You think they don't know who digital foundry is?
@@dagnisnierlins188 absolutely 100%; otherwise, why would they start off overly simple?
I didn't know who this dude was until this video lul
@@RandomPhail nah they know them for sure, DF have highlighted Crytek fora long time, and they also helped with QA for Crysis 2 and 3 re-releases. I believe they are credited in the credits for those. John and Alex have visited Crytek offices.
@@richardtucker5938 that doesn't necessarily mean these two knew who they were/how much they really knew
Literally the only Shooter im playing for almost 3 years,now. Switched from Xbox to PC about 5 months ago. No other shooter makes me so paranoid. The sound design is just phenomenal.
The best way I can describe the audio is "addicting"... It is done so well. No other game comes even close.
Recently switched to PC? I wouldn’t publicly brag about becoming an official dork 😬
Play dayz
I bought DT 770s for this game I cannot wait!
I agree. The sound is outstanding and can only be described as "alive."
no way, its been years since last HDR video
all those without an oled "hdr isn't that big of a deal" lol
I was surprised by youtube colour change and after reading your comment I find out why it did 😂
i have an oled and hdr still a gimmick...
@@Pinoisreadingabook Not if it's set up right and implemented correctly in-game by the devs. Alan Wake 2, RDR2 (Now has HDR10+) are great examples of proper implementation. Filmmaker mode for UHD bluray is also fantastic.
@@emike09 "Not if it's set up right" dude turning HDR on and configuring it in windows it's not rocket science...
I appreciate the fact that this video is in HDR, wish we had more of them from DF.
"The" Hunt Showdown made me chuckle, fellas.
Was looking for that comment :D
I guess it is the one and only haha!
Yeah, he sounds like my dad
Poke-e-mans
Finally an HDR video after a long time. 😎
Also, the game looks gorgeous.
Seeing this in HDR on my smartphone makes me want to buy an OLED monitor asap! The game is already stunning but this is on a different level!
@@sorentappe8745the default hdr settings for the game are completely busted and blown out, no details in the sky are visible
@@AnimeUniverseDE None of the hunters or bosses fly. Keep your eyes on the bushes and shadows.
@@infernaltim HDR means that you have increased dynamic range, there shouldn't be any clipping in the sky. This problem has nothing to do with how shadowy areas and bosses are presented
@@AnimeUniverseDE I get what you're saying, I'm just busting balls, I'm not being serious. 🙂
Finally, HDR video!
This looks so much better to me than some 720p FSR abomination. Who cares about better lighting or assets if it’s hidden behind blurry mess image quality.
tbf, I think most of these games (apart from aveum) just have 60 FPS performance modes tucked on, but are really games developed from the bottom up for the 30fps visuals modes (where the better lighting/assets are not hidden behind anything)
I LOVE these types of videos with in-depth technical talks with developers. Plus, you can't do much better when it comes to technical aspects than talking with Crytek. Great video!
This game is a hidden gem that a lot of people don’t know about
Unfortunately, the review bombing will ultimately keep thousands of people away
it deserves so much more attention - its really unique and such a thought through well designed experience, whether it be the fantastic sound design, art style or game play.
after 4,5k hours in hunt I would say it rather anal jam - zero level of attention to the technical part of the servers, mechanics and balance. Everything they say here is just beautiful words and has little common with actual picture of hunt
oh there are plenty of cheaters that know about it.
@markgolenkov4951 so after thousands of hours have been invested, the game isn't exactly what you specifically want it to be, which makes it trash? Yeah. I've literally never known anyone who put that much time into one game and didn't come away complaining exactly the way you are now, honestly. Time to move on bro, it's never going to be designed for you specifically and it's never going to be perfect, so your standards will never be met.
Alex's game dev interviews are always something else. Very interesting talks and supported together with nice visuals
In glorious HDR 😎
DLSS is the 2.3.1 version btw. Just why?
By far the most bizarre thing in the entire update. Devs, where is DLSS 3.7?!
The older DLSS version supports more GPU cards.
Because rtx 2000 and 3000 still exist without dlss3 support (thnx scumbag nvidia)
Cryengine's approach to realtime lightning is so so much better than Unreal's stupid expensive Lumen. Svogi is awesome. The rendering in this game is amazing.. however there's some real low quality assets in here, surprisingly. When it come to geometric and texture details I don't see anything better here than in Crysis 3 all these years ago.
@@astrea555 thats because lumen is supposed to pretty easy to implement for custom engines like this you still have to bake a lot games like this, ff16 or demon souls remake have excellent lighting on par with lumen but its not as easy also this does look better than crisis 3 remastered i suggest watching some gameplay your memory might be a bit fuzzy also its not better looking than crisis 1 remastered which actually benefited the most from the upgrades and actually has SVOGI implementation unlike crisis 2 and 3 remastered
Lumen is amazing even in software form. Both Lumen and this approach are vastly inferior to genuine path tracing like RTXDI/GI, but all are impressive in and of themselves.
The game was first released in 2018 and almost all assets got carried over to the new release. That's why you still see low quality stuff sometimes.
Unreal did have SVOGI or a form of voxel gi back in ue4, but they dropped it pretty early. Also lumen is a more 'next gen' tech that is pretty scalable and does its job, but needs more time to cook. SVOGI is nice, but it has some pretty big limitation it self with a big one being that it doesnt work as well with dynamic objects (its best used with static geometry). It also can cause some noise and ghosting.
Any form of GI is gonna be expensive and/or have some big limitations. As @Wobbothe3rd pointed out the only way to have the best implementation is through Ray Tracing/Path Tracing.
Similar to Metro Exodus: Awesome lightning, but some low quality assets and textures =/
Oh wow, Clive Gratton is in Crytek now? Good for them!
He has such a calming voice and demeanor. I could listen to him speak about anything, all day🙂
I almost thought that Alex forgot to ask about Crysis 4, but it was very clear that he had every intention to when he mentioned that he had a question he wasn't expecting an answer to! so yeah, looking forward to a path traced Crysis 4!
Thank you for finally uploading a video in HDR again.. need more content like this!
Hi Creytek folks, can you please update the PC version to use the newer version of DLSS and also include a sharpness slider
Agreed, Reflex support would be nice too.
I’d also like them to take a hard look at their VRAM usage - on my 5800X / 3070 rig if I dare use more than Medium textures I start getting very nasty stuttering. Feelsbadman
@@BlindBisonwhat size monitor and rez you playing at?
I've got a ryzen 3600 and 2060 on a ultra wide 4k monitor at medium setting getting between 60-100 frames but drops to 30 inside some compounds.
But I'm not playing in native 4K I'm upscaling using Nvidia NIS
Wow Clive Gratton worked more than 30 years at Creative Assembly. This man is legend!
Yeah, I thought I recognized him from Alien Isolation's behind the scenes videos.
Worked with so many great people at CA but I have to say Clive was a great guy to work with
Thanks for uploading in hdr!
Had my first wow HDR moment for UA-cam. Please do this more in the future!
Love this game. The best gameplay, atmospherics, and it looks incredible. Great job Ali.
Great interview, Alex!
We need more interviews / technical discussions like this one! Keep going!
We've been grinding this game for the last couple of years it's honestly so fun. A simple game that has infinite replay-ability.
We need an optimized settings video for this game Alex!
OMG another DF HDR video. These are a rare treat. (HDR is great it's a shame the content isn't more available. I know the production pipelines are a nightmare, so it's understandable). I do not get to use the HDR benefits of my monitor as often as I'd like.
The graphics are mindblowing and the setting so cinematic.Wait when they add story mode.epic!
I love Hunt: Showdown, but unfortunately the performance hasn't been great for me after the latest upgrade. With a Ryzen 5600x and a RTX 3070 I get about 120 FPS with everything on lowest, but in some compounds it can dip into the 20s. I assume it's the VRam. A proper DF analasys would be much appreachiated!
I'm running a 3070 with i5 13600k and I am getting between 100-120fps constantly with a mix of high and ultra settings.
Turn fog down to low and then boost everything else. The fog stuff changes basically nothing visible while taking up a ton of performance, and also maybe try the dlss and see how you feel about it
you card is fine..it's just that the developers are incompetent to optimize their broken game
Put VRAM usage ingame to 70%, helps with most people that have 8gb VRAM.
For me game runs pretty well on 3440x1440 resolution with 7900XT, on high preset(some things on medium) i get stable 144fps, with low 1% around 130.
How slow is your memory?
It's really great to hear about CryEngine still pushing forwards. I hope you're able to do one of these talks with the Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 team when that comes out next year.
I would love if CryEngine became more of an industry standard. The low performance requirement, amazing visuals and the incredible scalability (Steam Deck running Hunt attractively at Low, 50fps/Hz and FSR Performance at only 9W), well it just makes UE5 feel so slow, noisy, stuttery, and unattractive in comparison. I really wish Crytek the best, your technology is gold standard!
That was a really fun and insightful interview! I love when developers talk about their games.
Great interview! Love these videos and love the move to HDR!
You might want to lower the luminance level for the white UI elements and text. Currently they overpower all other elements in the frame when displayed.
Lowing to just 80% of it's current value would make the rest of the footage pop a lot more and they would still look "white" on an HDR display.
but again, you content is amazing as usual! Looking forward to many more of these videos :)
One of my favorite games right now. I love it
Love the 3-D audio tech shoutouts!
I was literally thinking about asking you guys to investigate the changes in Hunt after the engine upgrade! super happy to see this video come across my feed!
me too :D
Crytek showing EPIC how its done.
Doom eternal engine , hold my beer 🍻
This for me actually the best looking game with the most immersive gameplay and sounddesign.
I i play this game with the max settings on my 7900xtx with a uwqhd monitor always above 140 fps without fsr scaling and it has no single framedrop and it also runs perfectly fine with the perfect frametime. No shader stutters, no glitches and crashes.
My friend with a 2060 super can run as well in full hd with 80 fps in medium and 60 on high without a problem, the engine scales with the systems really well.
I really enjoyed this deep dive, thank you guys! 🥰
Oooo HDR boys!!!
man I love Crytek and I was just using my C1 in HDR mode, fantastic timing.
Interesting to see a Crytek video showcasing HDR too considering I was just replaying the Crysis Remastered trilogy and was really disapointed to see absolutely no HDR support on PC..
Huh, I could have sworn they supported HDR. Checking it looks like only the first game did, I remember when LTT was looking at it they were really disappointed in the HDR presentation (Like it was actively terrible) but that could also be that they were using the original Samsung G9 with the fakeDR panel. I guess they decided it wasn't worth it and ditched it for 2 and 3?
If you have a RTX card, you could use RTX HDR I tried it on crysis 3 and to me it looked really good on my oled but I also agree it kinda sucks that there’s no native HDR support on these games.
hdr is overall a letdown....
Finally I’ve been waiting for this
Always love this developer interviews, they are great.
Dear god, PBR techniques are pretty crazy. Specifying the melanin content of the hair, to determine ultimate color is at both incredible, and terrifying.
It definitely increases the realism of the imagine, but I wonder how it effects the design process of the artists.
Great interview, beautiful game,, awesome tech.
Dear developers, why are you using the outdated version of DLSS in your updated engine? Do you think that players are satisfied with the blurry mess instead of the steady image that the current DLSS 3.7+ can provide?
Does injecting an updated DLSS .dll trigger the anti cheat or something?
@@someusername1872 According to comments on reddit, after replacing nvngx_dlss.dll, DLSS option in the game becomes unavailable. EAC probably considers the file replacement as a violation of the integrity of the game files and simply blocks it. But the game looks just awful with DLSS 2.3.1
I tried and it doesn't work with DLSS Tweaks (github), but it let's me force DLAA, which has a lot more performance than the ingame Antialiasing and looks even better. EAC did nothing, doing this since the update. @@someusername1872
@@someusername1872 According to comments on reddit, after replacing nvngx_dlss.dll, DLSS option in the game becomes unavailable. EAC probably considers the file replacement as a violation of the integrity of the game files and simply blocks it. But the game looks just awful with DLSS 2.3.1
I'm not sure but if the player could do it the devs could do it so there's no excuse. I think this is more what he's getting at?
I am able to play this game still with a gtx 1080. That's a nine year old card. 1440p low settings 55-80 frames and still quite pretty.
I think the new map need some optimization..there are some area that drop my fps from 100 to almost 60 fps..
It's criminal this game isn't bigger. I've been having so much fun with it.
Because its super repetitive, this is ocming from someone with 300 hours in it too
@rundown132 Most games are repetitive.
@@rundown132Not that repetitive, I have almost 500 lol
The game literally can't get bigger, if player numbers approach what they did when they launched the new update the servers simply explode.
it's always nice to see the higher bitrate youtube allows for HDR videos... I wonder when youtube's gonna make the move to more av1 encodes
It often depends on how popular the video is.
They'll just drop the bitrate to save on bandwidth like everyone does. Despite using AV1, Netflix's quality at anything but 4K HDR is pretty bad because they just reduced the bitrate to keep the quality as low as people will accept and I'm sure UA-cam does the same
Yes, more HDR videos please!
I'm happy that the engine is being further developed and you're always bringing new things. But it's also very important that you work on this netcode and the servers. Rubber banding is a big problem, as are these trades. I don't understand why this isn't being worked on, especially since this is extremely important for a shooter.
How do you know they aren't?
@@_C.J. Because it has only gotten worse so far. :)
Man, I always loved the lightning and the shading in CryEngine, too bad not enough games use that engine.
Nowadays most of games just have that UE look :/
Yea I’m starting to hate the UE look
There might be issue with some aspect of cryengine that makes it not appealing to developers.
@@kukuricapica their UI framework still relies on Adobe Animate and ActionScript. They said 2 years ago though that the next commercial iteration of cryengine will have its own UI implementation. I'm very hopeful.
@@kukuricapica i think it just have to do the same with any type of tech: resource pool such as a market place and how many people know how to use it and its performance. UE is being used even on architecture.
@@Swyse AS and Abode... Yisus!!! this brings me to 2010 hahaa
My eyes Saw The Order 1886 upgrade
Opening old wounds :(
Same. My life had purpose for a few seconds there
Wishful thinking
Should've gone to Specsavers.
That studio is dead sadly
I assume there was no mention/question of how Crytek assisted in engine work for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2? I would like to hear about that.
Love the game but devs PLEASE add an render scale option that allows setting the render resolution higher than 100%. A lot of modern monitors do not allow technologies like Nvidia DSR. Resolution is super important in hunt because of the shimmering of foliage and ability to spot players. DLSS if fine but even quality at native is not nearly sharp enough.
YES for HDR finally!
We are waiting Crysis 4 with latest Cry Engine.
Should look about the same as this
@@xtr.7662 Should look better.
@@xtr.7662 That would be disappointing considering C3R looks better..
@@astrea555 it doesnt the texture and lighting quality is not as good at all
@@aterikasedi then it will be 30fps only
Crytek 🔥
Good job DF for context
08:07 is a very interesting explanation why sometimes weapons do not display after swapping around and just appear out of thin air after a bit.
Thanks for the video)
I like the HDR, but you still need to do some colour correction, Alex looking overly bright, and blacks are lifted too much. you can't just record in HDR and expect it to look good. Just my constructive criticism, I mean use something like DaVinci resolve, they have a good Auto Colour correction for HDR.
the HDR is for the gameplay parts which look great, you are not here to watch Alex in HDR. it takes a lot of time to do such pointless thing.
@@nicknickname353 true. True.
@@nicknickname353You only have to color grade for your camera once. And since we see a lot of him, it makes sense to spend that little amount of time.
So Clive Gratton went in Crytek... (he was in Creative Assembly "Console" team and was lead programmer on Alien Isolation)
I expected to see criticism and praise, but this is just an interview...
Flickering textures? Horrible FPS drops? DLSS 2.1 without the ability to replace DLL file?! Online Hunt is now at the level or lower than it was before due to greatly increased requirements, worse sound positioning and terrible UI.
I'd absolutely love an "optimized settings" video, Alex. I've been playing Hunt pretty consistently since late 2018; The game's fidelity on PC definitely took a hit when they released it on the now-previous-gen consoles. And this latest update has felt like a return to form for Crytek.
I'd also love a single player (or co-op? eh?!) campaign in the world of Hunt. It'd be a sort of "yup, we're still here" move from Crytek. Though I guess that's what Crysis 4 is shaping up to be.
Oh I'm ready for this, hoping there is some talk about the wacky VRAM usage under certain conditions at Grizzly Lodge and Graystone Pit.
Yeah, this game annihilates 8 gigabyte GPUs. If you lower the vram usage target and use medium textures with balanced image reconstruction it blows past the 8 gigs fast. I get nasty nasty stuttering now on my 3070 unless I majorly then down the texture quality / quality presets - but then the game winds up looking a lot worse of course than it does here in these DF videos.
Best pvp game on the planet, no other game gives you this much adrenaline rush. Also, it has the best sound effects I've ever heard in a game, pure masterclass of a game. Play it, dont just take my word.
Nicely done video
I think the only new game using CryEngine is the new Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Sad that no one wants to use the cryengine
i dont know what happened to the render distance in the new update, but even on very high/ultra settings you can clearly see the radius from your character where shadows render in as you move
I love hearing professionals talking to professionals.
good call on HDR Alyx, this game looks nuts in HDR. I opened this on my Iphone 15 and the minute it said HDR, i said i need to watch this on bigger HDR screen.
Amazing game and this new update blew my mind
Am I more impressed with hunts update or the decision and recognition that this video should be in HDR!
thanks, Alex for bringing us the goods!
everything is great except the UI. its the most unintuitive, designed by a madman, netflix/hulu call of doody garbage ive ever seen. redesign the UI crytek. PLEASE. redditors made better menu UI design.
Everything is not great, performance sucks ass and then they don’t give us latest dlss AND dlss frame generation to cope with that??
"netflix/hulu call of doody garbage"...looooool
I was with you until you said redditors did something better
@@BLCKVD Performance does not suck ass it's acceptable not perfect but it is also a better looking and more demanding.
@@37654 Look at it this way. The game's UI is so bad that even redditors were able to design a better one.
Explishit is my go to word now.
Is it me or when you turn on dlss it’s blurry? Ive tried all the quality presets and it remains blurry? If there is a remedy for this please let me know.
I had the capacity to run a dsr factor of 1.75 and this makes the game very clean. But yeah, it very blurred on just dlss.
Listened this without the video and legit forgot the second dev until he wake up at the end
I’ve noticed when the game bogs down sometimes on PS5 in certain POIs or when things get really hairy the screen starts tearing. Wonder if they are using VSYNC at all.
No updated version of DLSS or frame gen? To most, gameplay is king, then performance, then graphics. Graphics are nice to get you in the door but gameplay and performance keep you around. Crytek never took performance seriously and I think its always hurt them in sales and reputation.
I agree
They took performance seriously with Crisis 2 and were shunned for it because it didn’t overstress the latest graphics cards for a change.
@@MelvinGundlach No they didn't it was just optimized for console, they were FORCED to make it run well for that reason alone, as we saw with the more linear levels and closed off map design. When they added tessellation and other PC only features they bungled that too. Users found out that everything (including the ocean below the map) was rendering at FULL tessellation despite being out of view.
If they fix the awful fps drops, stutters in all kinds of situations, hundreds of old, new and returning bugs, tradekilling, move to servers that don't run at 30hz tickrate on a good day, rework their hit registration and fulfill at least 5% of the promises made leading up to the update then this would be a great game.
Game runs great for me, even better than before, they just delivered an engine upgrade for free and yet you cry about unfulfilled promises 😂😂😂
@@sergiopery Yes? WTF is your point "they lied about their release and gave you a broken product why do you complain" ???? There is a reason it sits at mostly negative and has lower player numbers than before the "upgrade". Also "runs better for me" because you use upscalers. There is no way it runs better than before without them unless you were mega CPU limited.
@@KungThulhu no upscaler, native res, I can now crank up the settings to very high and it runs at the same 100fps as before, what promise did Crytek break that it also broke your heart? Have you mentioned it to your therapist? Game looks INSANELY good now, sucks to be you.
Sadly since they apparently got rid of DX11 completely in favor of DX12 only, the VRAM usage even at all Low settings is off the charts.
For example: 4K Res before the update: 5gb VRAM
After: 8gb VRAM
This causes huge playability issues for people with 8GB VRAM or less, which you can see several threads of people complaining about huge FPS drops, not realizing the game is now hitting this VRAM limit.
Basically you need at least a 10gb VRAM card, if not 12 or 16gb now(based on graphics settings).
To be fair playing at 4K with an 8 GB card in 2024 is a bit too optimistic.
@@mungojerrie86 my thoughts exactly, the fastest 8gb GPU is probably a 3070ti. which is more so for 1440p and high fps 1080p. Yes the VRAM increase sucks, but its the way it goes, 8gb in 2024 depending on what you're using it for really is at the limit.
4k? Duh. Turn down you textures and turn off DLSS and you'll be fine.
4k with 8gb vram in 2024? Time to upgrade lol
@@16valveBravoSpoonz 8 GB was available in mainstream (upper midrange to be specific) in 2015 from AMD and then in 2016 from Nvidia. It is unfathomable they some people still consider 8 GB of VRAM to be appropriate for anything but the low end.
Man, im excited you gave little old hunt some attention. This is thee best fps game around. And deserves praise for its efforts and achievements. Love to guys. Also ty for the lantino skins, i love um. Give me more lol
This update is amazing. Not perfect but I’ve been playing every day since launch and Im still blown away by how much better the game looks and feels now
thanks to ali salehi for an amazing explanation , love from iran
VRAM change from 90 to 70 is making game so much smooth for 8Gb budget gpu... And allmost none stutters and weird 20% fps drops for half a minute.
I tried that and it does not fully resolve the issue for me.
Even if you tone the texture quality way down and move that down to 70 I still get lots of visible “jitter” / stuttering camera motion after the update.
I have a 5800x / 3070 rig with a high refresh Gsync panel.
@BlindBison same here the game jutters offen, I mean I have a dated card but the orignal game ran like a dream on my 5700xt and now in select areas of the map ot drops to 45 no matter the settings or fsr.
@@BMW-sd6nn I hear you man, the microstutter is the worst part about the update imo
@@BlindBison some ppl have reported that disabling the geforce experience highlight recording or the geforce overlay (completely) helped stabilize their fps.
and I agree, something in the game currently feeld like it's leaking VRAM or something, I get these weird slowdowns too (3080 10gb)
@@BMW-sd6nn grizzly lodge and gray stone pit in particular seem to be having performance issues. oddly enough, one time I spawned ing ray stone my fps there was completely fine. maybe something related to streaming in the compound assets upon entering it (via traversal instead of spawning) is broken, idk
9:19 hasnt RE Engine had this option since RE2make? Capcom even implemented it into MHWorld on Iceborne's launch iirc
pretty sure this was brought into Hunt prior to the engine upgrade to
Yes that's not a new feature. Hunt has had it for years at this point.
Such a good game with an amazing team behind it. I would love to see a "Digital Foundry Optimization Guide" for Hunt ;)
It runs wayyyyy worse now on my amd pc, and fsr isn't helping in select areas of the new map. I'm talking like 40 fps drop no matter settings or fsr. The orignal game ran amazing and still looked beautiful.
love this game! the update was great, DLSS was really needed to smooth all the vegetation aliasing we had before
This game in HDR on an OLED is beautiful.
wait, Ali Salehi? an Iranian CryEngine developer??? congrats my guy!
Crytek & Optimisation? Where?
We need an optimized settings video for this game!!! looks awesome
Thank you
Performance: I personally havent had a single crash with my rig yet. Im getting rock solid 150-200fps on 1440p, with a Very High preset and DLSS on quality (7800x3d/4080). Sure i was getting more fps before, but the game looks so much better, there was 0 chance the performance would stay the same. I could run on Ultra if i wanted to, but i prefer to sacrifice a bit of visual fidelity to gain competitive advantage (on ultra i get around 90-140 fps).
UI: once i learned the shortcuts, navigating the menus became easier. It's definitely not a great UI, and they need to tweak some stuff to speed up gearing up for a game, but i really don't think it's so bad that it deserves the shitstorm of negative reviews it's been getting.
People need to chill. (I know they won't though). The devs know we didnt like the UI, however shitting on it non stop on steam just pushes new potential players away from the game. We all want more players in the game, it makes matchmaking better for everyone, as well as providing funds for the devs to continue developing the game. The game is not a smash hit by any metric, shich it definitely deserves. Ive played many fps games in the past, Hunt is definitely one of the bestter ones out there, yet its not very popular. This is their chance to bring more people in. It must be so deflating for the devs fo see this one chance they have slip away. Sure they messed up with some stuff, but honenstly this reaction is so overblown it makes me want to stop associating myself with the gaming community. The older i get the more toxic it becomes.
What a beautiful game.
The engineer talked at 10000000mhz a second, very impressive frontal lobe performance.
I wish I had better internet at my current apartment. Hunt Showdown is brilliant. I played it for years before moving. It’s the only online competitive game I’ve really enjoyed in the last decade. I highly recommend it to anyone curious. Steep learning curve, a bit like Souls that way, but once it hooks you it really hooks you.