Do You Need A Full Face Helmet For Mountain Biking? | Full Face Vs Half Shell MTB Helmets
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Do you need a full face helmet? In this video we'll talk you through the advantages and disadvantages of the two different types of MTB helmet: trail, or open face, helmets and full face helmets to help you decide which is the best for you and your riding.
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What sort of helmet do you wear?
bell super air r! but one question about modular helmets, are they worth it in your opinion?
Exactly as Neil said: Fullface when there is a lift or I try something outside of my comfort zone. Normal helmet for anything else. Can you please kick your sponsor POC in the a..? They don‘t even answer to their contact form. I just want to know where I can buy new pads for my Tectal.
@@arcadepiano Sounds boring, but I'm probably a dumb inferior person.
I have one of those with a replaceable chin piece. I’m so comfortable with it because when I ride something new, I alway have the choice of the level of protection 👌🏼
But I think this will never be safe enough for a pike park etc. so therefore I have a rampage. But I would never climb with this on 😄
@@arcadepiano If you're going to be trolling, at least make it convincing.
The price of a full face helmet is way less than dental reconstruction or facial reconstruction
good point
Depend of the inssurance couverage
I don't need to pay for that. We have the nhs for that
My cheek plastic surgery from my crash was $6k. It would've been $50k for the plastic surgery without insurance.
@@keaton4054 the NHS doesn't cover cosmetic surgery
I wore a full face helmet on my first race which was June 27th, i crashed on practice and i must say, you dont need a full face until you crash and realize you actually need one.
genuine question. what was the situation where it came into use? did you actually hit the chin strap of the helmet into the ground?
Yup, recently had a bad crash and got a concussion ( due to the poor division to ware a Walmart helmet on jumps). Decided it might be a good time to invest in a full face.
I crashed today on normal road. Cut my jaw and now looking for full face to wear :D
Full face whenever I ride trails where I can climb on gravel roads. I hang the helmet on my bars while climbing. My girlfriend had a nasty crash which caused her to be hospitalised and lose 70% of her vision in one eye (for life). She definitely would have just walked away with a full face. So yeah, that's why, broken cheekbones suck.
I need one of them which have the detachable cheek protector thingy
Fox proframe, never too hot. Max protection. I like my teeth in my mouth.
I'm buying me one
I have one, too and agree with all your points.
Love my Pro Frame too!
Bought one for a trip last week. It is amazing dont even notice its a full face
IXS makes a really nice lightweight full face helmet. I have gone through 2 fox proframes I think the IXS one is slightly better protection. It Will probably be my next endro helmet
I always get a funny look or two on my local trails for wearing my Bell Super Air R full face. While the trails aren't more than blue rated there are some parts full of rocks. Just this past weekend I was very happy to have had a full face on as I had a sudden stop of my front wheel and went OTB at a relatively decent speed. My chin guard saved my face as I landed on the left side of my head but facing down a bit. Dirt and rocks came flying into the helmet and even deep scratched my goggles on the left side. Had I not been wearing a full face those deep scratches would have been my face. I'm 53 years old and have been mountain biking since I was 18. Haven't ridden anything besides full face since I got my Super 2R when it first came out. The Super Air R has been a great helmet for me and I probably won't ever ride a regular helmet again.
Good to see you're not influenced by the funny looks. Do what makes you comfortable, particularly when it comes to safety.
I just started thinking about this in the last few days. I crashed recently on my gravel bike, OTB and fractured my hand, but going back to the crash site my face got perilously close to a rock! Most of my MTB riding is New England single track, lots of ups and down, but all on roots and rocks and you really can't control where you land if you do have an off, someone in my riding group got hung up at the top of a technical climb recently and ended backwards rolling down the climb, bike and all.
I have a Super 3R, but only use the chin bar at the downhill park although I'm wondering if I shouldn't use it more often, especially as my confidence increases and speed goes up!?!?!
@@chiefsilverback I'm out for a few weeks as well as I did my wrist in on the crash. For me the decision to wear it has nothing to do with the speed and more to do with the terrain. For the crash I described I wasn't moving very fast. My front tire took a bad hop crossing a tiny wood feature. Dropped the front wheel into a spot between the rocks and over I went leaving the bike behind. If I'm riding strictly paved paths or crushed rock fire road ill take the chin off otherwise it stays on.
@@JayBirdPhotos I was just looking at the Kali Invader, looks like a well ventilated one piece full face, with the added bonus of free crash replacement.
On a related topic I'm assuming you ride with pads, which do you like?
@@chiefsilverback yes I normally ride with pads. I use gform shorts, knee and shirt. Would you believe though that the one time I didn't wear the knee and top was the one time I should have been. Scraped my left shoulder and bruised my arm. That will teach me .....
my IXS Trigger FF weight 595grams! And it is super breathable. I rarely wear half shells now, because the added protection comes with virtually no penalities. I've seen half shells that weight just as much as this full face. I highly recommend it.
Broke my ribs in a crash a couple days ago riding hard trail, but my full face saved my head! Absolutely worth having a full face
Get well soon mate! Your bike prolly wants a revenge on that trail
Same here bro. Still at hospital. Crashed and tore my kidney. Fullface saved my pretty head 😂
🙋♂️… colarbone and a rib here
This literally happened to me 6 weeks ago, first time wearing a full face and it saved my face, can’t say the same about 4 of my ribs though haha
Full face on gnarly trails for me from now on
Stayed 2 nights in hospital and 2 weeks on the couch after having a big crash in the bike park. My Fox ProFrame needs replacement as it did a perfect job. I ordered an IXS Trigger FF now which fits even better. Really love this helmet already.
Never will drive without a ff again, Even on my hometrails. Because this is where I drive faster then on unknown terrain.
Almost lost some teeth at age 14 when I crashed on asphalt with a half shell. Recently got a lot better at biking and with the speeds I go at now, even on a flat trails, I will always choose to wear a full-face. It only takes one rock or even piece of wood in the wrong place at the wrong time, even when going slow.
I've got a convertible full face, but honestly the half shell is more practical fot 80% of my rides, but for that last 20% i wouldn't ride it without a full face
I had a brain bleed 3.5 years ago. Two brain surgeries and a titanium plate later my balance is still off. So when I ride trails I opt for the extra protection of a full face helmet. It gives me more confidence, plus I want the extra coverage in case of a fall. I use a Bell with the removable chin piece. I use the full face configuration for about 95% of my riding. It offers good ventilation and I can still have a trail helmet for riding around the neighborhood with the family. If I ride lift assisted downhill, I rent a heavier full face helmet.
I have both full face and open face helmets. I definitely wear the full face on the more aggressive rides. The open face is for more day to day riding and leisure rides.
As a biker and reconstructive surgeon and who has had to reconstruct facial fractures of other fellow cyclists, I can say that the use of a fullface helmet is never enough.
I mean, fullface helmet is a must. I have had to repair facial fractures in 3 fellow cyclists. When they had their accident none of them wore a fullface helmet
I never felt the need for a full face until I smashed my orbital bone & ripped off my eyeleid. Now obviouslly I won't ride without one.
Full time full face here, my first ever trip to the mountain ended with a broken collarbone and a smashed half shell.
Currently i have an XC bike so i ride open face, but as soon as I build a bike for more trail-oriented riding and i go on steeper more technical trails, i'll go enduro fullface. Just a dumb mistake or a front wheel wash off can make you eat liquids for a year, if you're lucky.
I wear a full face when I’m riding free ride, and a half shell when I’m riding calmer trails
This. Same goes for pads. I just kit up for what I ride.
I freeride everything so 😂
@Calvin Dachs 🦡 why wouldn't you?
@Calvin Dachs 🦡 um I have downhill bike and I ride easy trails on it too. It's about your preference 🙂
I like this answer. When I'm at a park and at the edge of my ability level or going fast or getting tired, it's on. On tamer stuff that I'm confident on I go back and forth. I also rarely land on my head riding, my crashes generally land me sideways or arms first.
If it's wet/muddy/slick I'm more likely to keep the FF on all day, especially if it's not hot out.
I always felt kinda silly wearing my full face for regular riding as well as jumps because it's the only one I have, though recently I had a crash and was very thankful I was wearing it...
full face also looks cooler than an open face
Have had to many to wrecks and every time I had a full face and so happy I did.
Full face ALWAYS. Mellow XC , Fast downhill - all of it. Play adult games and win adult prizes.
Full Face ist a must. A friend of mine broke his nose while riding dirtjump with me. It wasnt Even a big crash, he just hittet some roots in a Bad angle with his Face.
Full face no matter what, I would rather sweat a little bit then getting my face pushed in
why do these videos come out exactly when I need them xD
I literally just searched this for curiosity and there it was, a gmbn video about helmets xD
They always do
I wear braces and have an overbite that I'm going to have surgery for so I always use full face for anything that is not a gravel ride or an old train track trail.
I'm also really beginner and scared and it gives me an extra boost of confidence
Think about the likelihood of your face meeting the ground or another immovable obstacle. If this is higher than your accepted threshold for risk, full face. I don’t wear one but I don’t really do jumping, I don’t ride DH, and I actually (knock on wood) crash pretty rarely. If I was sending it or primarily riding lift-served terrain or racing… yeah I’d very much reassess.
With the caveat that wearing a helmet changes the wearers unconscious risk analysis profile.
The more protection you wear, the more risks you feel safe to take.
Always full face, either city commuting or trails. I only have an enduro bike so the looks fit anyway. 😂
Just last week face planted on a grade 3 trail that I ride frequently. Knocked myself out and knocked my front two teeth out. I own a full face but I only ever wear on bike parks etc where I have uplift. On this particular day I was wearing an open face helmet and wouldn’t have even considered wearing a full face on this track. Now though I’ve bought a pedal friendly full face and will probably wear it for all future trail/enduro riding.
If I'm on a trail, I'm wearing a full face. The only exception to this rule is if it's super hot out (95F+) and the danger of heat exhaustion is higher than a crash. On those hot days, I'm taking it easy and skipping the dangerous features so I really don't need the full face.
Do i need full face helmet in my speed and trails? Probably not. Still i allways wear my Fox Proframe on trails. Lots of rocks and roots and narrow trails so i don't really want to crash face first. Also i have ridden MX and Enduro so i am used to a full face helmets.
So, I feel more comfortable with "normal" helmet going uphill, but hoping on trails, fullface makes me more confident.
The full face with removable chin guards are great in my opinion
I think face injuries are a lot more common than head. You're more likely to use the chin guard than any other part of the helmet. Full face always for me. I am not quite as good when there's less visibility. But, it's safer and I value my face a lot.
Had a chain break and wrap up my rear hub which resulted in me going over the bars and sliding down gravelly asphalt on my face when I was 12 Full face always since,
Dudes! Its like you've read my mind! Just arrived at home and on the way was thinking about this. Matrix
Anywhere the trail points down more than up, I wear a full face. Half shell for more pedaly calmer trails.
Reporting live from Schladming, Austria. I can confirm its full face and downhill bikes as far as the eyes can see and nobody looks overbiked or over protected 😜
"I don't know if I'm going to fall on the side of my head, but I definitely know I won't fall ony face". Because, nobody *ever* falls on their face, unless they plan to do so, "of course". Everyone that smashes their face wanted to, since they didn't wear a ff?
I run a Fox Proframe fullface and it's ventilated enough that it feels like an open face helmet. I wear it on every ride no matter how mellow and don't even take it off when stopping for a breather. I believe the TLD Stage is a very similar design and there might be a few others.
Same. Why buy less when you can have all the protection and it takes nothing away?
I'm now bricking myself and want to wear a full face helmet for my next commute.......
If I’m down hilling I would wear full face but if I’m climbing or on a normal trail loop or something like that I would wear open face.
Budget limitations force me to only have one helmet at the moment and I immediately went for a full face. Protection is most important, comfort and breathability are factors for rich people.
good choice
For rich people??? As if half-shells are more expensive than full face?
I got a half shell cuz I'm broke not because I wanna breathe more lmao wtf.
Crashed into a tree, absolutely broke my neck and jaw protection off my full face, it was worth it. Rather replace a 100 dollar helmet than my whole entire jaw.
I got both depending on what kind of ride, how hot it is or how rowdy I plan to get! I've face planted a few times without a full face. Luckily it wasnt bad enough to dislocate my jaw.
my advice, are your riding XC trails up to blue teck trails meant for trail bikes? have an half shell.
do you ride black and meybe even double black trails meant for trail bikes? you should at least consider a full face, one which you can take of the jaw with is preferable, but a enduro lid will also be just fine, but steer away from the full on DH lids, those are heavy and just too much (the poc full face shown in the video is one of them, the fox proframe is a good example of a enduro lid and the MET parachute mcr is a perfect example of a helmet with a removeble jaw).
ride any kind of enduro, DH, or park? get a full face, but if you tend to stay on the lighter side, one with a removable jaw or a enduro lid will also do, so if you already have one and dont ride the real sketchy and heavy kind of terain too often, just use that one unless you feel you need for that extra protection. but if you ride dificult/more risky terain more often, a full on full face will be worth it.
Hospital worker from bentonville, AR (massive mountain bike area). People come in needing facial reconstruction after crashing IN full faces on not that insane stuff. Really underrated! I cant imagine if they didnt have that extra protection!!!
I have a Giro switchblade.. its both an open and full face helmet. Its astm 1952 dh certified with or without chinbar...
Is it any good? I bought the Bell one they show in the video but I didn't get on with it at all and passed it on....
@@tobyehillier i like it yes. Use it for 2 years already. But the helmet without chinbars stays quite "hot" in warmer weather. Thats is something to concider...
The best helmet I have had and saved me a few times.
I just keep the chin bar on, it's not that hot
After you swallow you nose, that decision becomes a very easy one to make 🤕
For enduro full face always.
Penguin dove into the bushes a few years ago, when I was just starting to ride.
Got a scar on my upper lip which splits my mustache in half. My face will look funny forever.
Never riding any risky terrain in an open face helmet again.
I do wear a detachable helmet most of the time (Bell super) and I love it to death. Being able to remove the chin bar for the climb makes a world of difference.
I enjoy having teeth so, full face all the time on single track
Really should have the AD tag on this video, its basically just a POC advert
I mean they have brand sponsors.. this is the case for every single video.. they always have a brand in front of the camera at all times... don't really see your point. Besides.. im pretty sure Bell got a whole 3 seconds of screen time too :D
Full face 100% might as well not even wear one if your gonna run a half.
Of course you need a full face. What you gonna do with half a face?
Hey, I am not familiar with RECCO system, but you've messed something up in the video about it - "nfc tag that sends your signal to the system, that can track you"... what ? NFC stands for "near field communication", it can not send anything to any remote system. If there is such functionality built in, then it's not the NFC part of it, as video suggest.
They are two separate things they did not explain it right in the video
Yeah they messed up a little bit that part. Noticed it as well. Those helmets have the NFC Tag so that medics can just scan it and get information about you. The POC helmets have this piece of metal at the back that reflects radar signals sent by some search and rescue equipment (initially used to search for people after avalanches). But this is certainly something that not every search and rescue squads have so you need luck as well.
Eduardo Núñez You need luck and a huge massive helicopter with the nfc detector. BTW any phone or gpstracker works as good as a nfc chip...
Eduardo Núñez You need luck and a huge massive helicopter with the nfc detector. BTW any phone or gpstracker works as good as a nfc chip...
Luckily, I’ve never had a bad crash or head injury, but seeing others get ragdolled on even the most simple features tells me I need one. I have a full face for dirt bike riding, but I’d like to have a lighter version for mountain biking. I’ve just now started to get serious about mountain biking, and am looking to get into enduro racing.
No crash equals Not riding hard enough.
I know a guy that had a full face helmet but no goggles . He went over the bars into a bush . The tree branches stabbed him around the eye really bad . Had to go to the hospital . Very lucky it missed his eyeballs. It look like he got shot in the face with a gun
I bike to work before and had accident that chipped my front teeth. Since then I wear full face helmet on streets. People will look at you like you are naked. But thats ok.. i dont want to be toothless. Lolz.
You don't need an open helmet or a full face helmet or car insurance.....until that millisecond before you have a crash.
I wear a full face all the time
I just turned 59. I rode cross country for many years but gave it up 10 yrs ago due to arthritis in ankles, knees and hips/lower back.
This spring the gf and I purchased ebikes and I haven't looked back. As my gf is new to riding (she can ride but it's been 45 yrs since her last ride) I wanted her to feel comfortable about riding the local trails. After trying on her Bell Super 3R I caved and purchased one for myself. It's comfortable enough that I've not bothered to remove the chin-bar and it does feel confidence inspiring. The gf passed me on a downhill gravel road this past weekend and told me it was the fastest she's ever been on a bicycle and we must have been doing 30kmph. Didn't have the heart to tell her we were closer to 50kmph but what didn't kill her makes her stronger.
First time I wore my full face major OTB landed on my face KO ,would have smashed my face in thanks full face😎
I use full face because I've fallen on my face before, and I like my teeth and nose where they are👍
Ripped my cheek open on a metal grated wall ride last summer. Plastic surgery and a gnarly face scar later, I always wear a full-face on singletrack. You can always go OTB on your bike on any obstacle and your head is the first thing to propel towards the rocks, trees, roots, dirt, ect.
I'm a noob and I'm choosing a fullface for enduro because I know I will feel more comfortable pushing myself and learning
Just chipped multiple teeth and then slammed them on my bars just yesterday so definitley going towards a full face
When I was still riding DH, and doing freeride stuff in the early 2000s, I was always wearing full face helmets. These days, due to age and previous injuries, I ride flowy trails, and have compromised with a Giro Tyrant.
Do you have a old poc helmet that is not being use can I have it
For me it's a double win, I also use my MTB gear (helmets,goggles, knee pads) for downhill inline skating/rollerblading.
Perfect for climbing in the radiating heat of asphalt and rolling down in relative safety.
Only got sight in one eye and a need to not be off work for weeks, or fully blind 😬 personal choice but I go with full face and goggles on anything off road these days. Just not worth the risk to me
I have a bell super3 with detachable chin bar. Best of both worlds and I always use the full face option at trail centres etc.
Better to “have it and not need it than need it and not have it” is my thought on it.
Got my warning. Day of tackling Black Trails took the homeward Blue back to the trail centre, ended up hitting a tree with my jaw. Got away with a fractured cheek. Teeth were checked by dentist and all good. So from now I wear a full face. I'll take jaw off for climbs but goes back on for any sort of decent, no matter the level.
My father broke 4 ribs, 1 shoulder blade & 2 times the collarbone. His fullface had a big dent in it and the chin had big scratches. If he hadnt had a fullface he probably would be dead cuz he landed on big rocks...
So you can decide for yourselfe, if a fullface is worth it
Lol kinfa obvious if u like crashing then wear a full welmet 🤣 jk.
Who giggled when Neil said, people have different shaped helmets?
I’ve been riding ATV’s since I was a toddler and I have a halfway decent atv helmet which “LOOKS” very similar to a full face mountain bike helmet but I’m worried that it might not give me the protection I need or might put me at risk for a neck injury is there any information you could point me towards to figure this out?
Not for me for a full face helmet, I'm terrified of downhill anything or any stunts or jumps, I just go over logs or roots or some doable rocks and minor small downhills here and there. To why in the future id want a full suspension carbon trail bike not a heavy full suspension bike and slow af as my norco faze 3 2009 currently.
Another factor to add into you decision is time on the bike. A couple years ago I rode "the whole enchilada" in Moab. I'm not a fast climber, so my time was around 3.5 hrs. I chose to wear my Giro Switchblade for that ride, which is lighter then most FF helmets. Near the end of the ride the helmet was getting quite heavy and began to get annoying.
Now I didn't know the trail so I was playing it safe by wearing it, but next time definitely going half she'll. Side note it was about hour 2 where I started to notice it wearing on me.
As always the choice and decision process is yours and only you can decide what's best for you.
Fox Pro Frame full face is the best vented helmet of any sort (road or MTB) I personally have ever worn. Light, comfortable and breathable. I live in a hot climate and absolutely love it
Yup, there is no perfect helmet, and I asked myself the "what if" if I crash and a piece of stick goes right through one of the massive vents in my RS, but reminded myself that you just insure against the most likely and use the most functional equipment you can get, and again, know that nothing is perfect.
It's always full face helmet for me. An open face provides protection to one half of your head only, and nothing at all on the other, which is left completely exposed. And nowadays there are very lightweight and very ventilated full face helmet options, they are not only downhill style. Take the Met parachute for example, it's only 700 grams! That's crazy for a full face and it's very well ventilated as well. Sure not the ideal one for a crazy speed downhill race, a more protective one would be better for that, but pretty much perfect for most scenario except the extreme one.
I wear full face when every winter or if its cold outside and on trails. I'll only wear half if ill just ride my way to a nearby destination.
Gone for the best of both with a Super Air R. half lid for most rides and long climbs.. chin bar to strap on when im throwing myself down something more extreme.
Had a crash 2 days ago if I wouldn’t have had my full face my teeth would been knocked out I got a concussion from that
Coming from a motorcycle background Into the sport
So my mind says why do half shells even exist it's be full-face all the way
At least on motorcycle showing us the percentage of kill zones and 70% of fatalities are from your jaw does this not translate?
There is no way that I can trust this pinky ..thing ! Full face always !
2:10 Recco is actually a passive reflector, so it doesn't send out a signal so much as it reflects back if someone goes over you with a Recco detector (handheld or it looks like they now have helicopter-mounted units). To send out a signal you need cellular or satellite service and have to activate that yourself or have a smart accelerometer that thinks you just crashed (like my stupid garmin does occasionally when I stop on a ride).
To much scared of breaking my teeth ! A fail can happen really fast ! Even at slow speed!
I wear my full face on every ride (apart from when commuting) why wouldn’t you want that extra bit of protection for your head? I use the IXS Trigger FF and love it! IXS Trigger Full Face Helmet Review
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I wear a full ass helmet and my ass has never suffered an ass impact. Also never suffered an ass impact while riding!
Full face because I enjoy having teeth
Does the POC Tectal MTB Helmet A1 have its own type of mips? Plss reply
Great advice. I think this was a hard video to make. After all you don't want to be the one who said "don't worry it'll be fine"...... we're talking about protecting your head and in my opinion you should get the absolute best helmet you can afford and if you're anywhere where a crash could end up nasty then get a full face every time!
Everyone i know who switched to a full face helmet did so after a terrible accident. So why wait?
I thought i didn't need one until i crashed face first and was knocked down for a few minutes, if i had a full face i probably wouldn't have lost consciousness. The next day, i looked like i was beaten in a boxing match because i had a black eye and a wounded face 😂
love your channel but i dont like Gambling adds on the start i would probably unsuscribe from your channel cos my little boy likes your channel as well and its not appropriate him to see Gambling adds
They don't choose the ads, the ads are targeted by youtube.
@@johnnyutah6056 I just intimidated by them I am not gambling at all and hate this shite
I always ride my fox proframe on any trail because it’s just so breathable. I only ever take it off on really hot days (32 degrees Celsius) and its only when climbing
Love the channel guys! Last May I had a huge crash and my Troy Lee Design Stage helmet (full face) save my life. So much so that the helmet cracked at point of impact. If I would have had my open face helmet I would be in bad shape.
I would say that if you hesitate between the two, wear the full face. It's better to be hot than have a cracked skull!
Cheers !
I love my D4 composite
Frankly what confuses me is the dudes who wear a full face, no neck brace, no other armor at all. At least that I can tell, unless it's super slim fitting under their jersey and pants.
I lost it when you said "people do have different shaped helmets" Hahaha! I'm guessing you'd meant to say "different shaped heads".
lets be honest we should wear a full face for all cycling. theyre just heavy and sweaty as hell. comfort vs safety. ..and image..you know youll get looks in a full face going down the road..but you can hit the deck just as quickly.
I think the removable chin part is the most useless invention for helmets.
I crashed with one and the chin broke off. Helmet went to the bin on the same day.
So just buy a real full face helmet.
In germany 40 year old dads are the only one with these helmet lol its so freakying useless just buy a real helmet...