What is the importance of Local Governments in a Democracy? - Ahmad Iqbal -
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Ahmad Iqbal, the former Mayor of Narowal, comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the importance of Local Governments, the Colonial Inertia of Governance in Pakistan, Elections, Karachi, PML-N, Money in Politics, RUDA, CDA, and more.
Ahmad Iqbal is the Founder of Dehleez - a campaign for strengthening Local Governments and sustainable cities. He also led the drafting committee of Punjab Local Government Act 2022’s (repealed by Pervez Ellahi’s govt).
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Colonial Form of Government and Federal Control
6:55 Indian Local Government Model
9:00 Local Government Acts and Elections in Pakistan
13:00 Basic Municipal parties and difference between Urban and Rural Citizen
15:30 History of Local Governments and Power Structure of Governance
26:39 Do people vote along party lines, Karachi and Empowering Mayors
36:00 Money in Local Governments and the Union Councils
41:30 Real Estate Development Projects and the idea of Development
52:00 State, Citizen and Union Councils
54:30 Local Taxation and Corruption
1:02:30 Sustainable Cities and Citizen Centric Development
1:05:40 Audience Questions - Розваги
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Such a humble soft spoken man. God knows we need people like him on this side of the border. Great episode as always !!
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I’m no fan of the nepotism of political parties in Pakistan but damn this guy was humble
Post 1990 2 constitutional amendment to accommodate LSG, for rural & urban
How could India do it while Pakistan failed ?
Inertia of rulers:
Not much debate on local government after independence:
Why local government are feared and by whom? :
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Yes, absolutely correct, in 1990 came the 30% reservation to women in LB elections . But in India democracy really flourished because of regular LB elections and decentralization of financial power ! Late PM Rajiv Gandhi was a staunch advocate of distributing financial powers to the Local Bodies. During his regime all the Gram Panchayats and municipal councils got funds directly from Delhi through District Collector's for construction/ repair of school buildings and creation of Nehru Youth Centers ! A massive investment indeed in democracy
While Ahmad reached the conclusion that local government is the solution to most of Pakistan's problems by thinking about urban planning issues, I reached this conclusion by studying Anarchist theories. This whole conservation makes a great case in favor of Anarchist ideas. Thank you Shehzad and TPE for starting these brilliant conversations. More power to you!
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Ahmad is the most well read experts on local government
Very educational podcast, thank You for putting it together.
Best wishes from an Indian Norwegian
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Well done sir! As an urban engineer i can confirm that it was anan extremely educational podcast. There should be a round two of this discussion with a focus solely on Karachi's problems since it's an anomaly where all the existing models have failed.
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Hope to see such educated local legislators , wealthy or poor, like him❤
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I listen to your podcast regularly, this podcast is by far is THE Best one
Dude was surprisingly honest
Humble, knowledgeable, educated, and well-informed people we need people like him to move forward.
Pakistan me to federal elections ka naamo nishan nahi door door tak aur yaha baatein Local Govt formation ki ho rahi 😅😅😅😅😅
The kind of politicians we need to build Pakistan in future ❤ hats off ❤
This is wat I am talking about local self n gross root level politics are key for national progression. Debate should start at village level reach till top.
100%
Politics su*ks
@@ThePakistanExperienceplease checkout thr panchayati raj system of local government in India, I never see pakistanis talking about it or even knowing about it.
I talked about it - but it varies from state to state in India
He seems humble and deserving
Much needed conversations! Brilliant podcast.
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I was surprised to learn that such a likable politician is now working in the private sector. Your podcasts have helped me to see politicians as more relatable people.
Thank you. Thats the point 🙌
Salam, great talk. Very insightful.
I get to listen to people like this because of you Shehzad. JazakAllah kher.
A guest with an opposite point of view on local governments might also be good.
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He is a very knowledge ful person. Please make more podcast on the topic
Thank you for another great podcast. It would be great if you mention the date of recording or something, as it gets confusing… I was like baariah ka mosam to chala gaya, isay kya howa?
It is only the Lahore podcasts that have not been posted soon after being recorded.
Thanksss
This was recorded in July, when Shehzad was visiting Lahore.
The best thing was the local taxes idea it is mind blowing it can change cities.
For anyone who doesn't know, he is the son of Ahsan Iqbal from PML N.
Great information, Iqbal sahab bhi yek danishwar hai.
Thank you! i didnt know that.
I am at awe
Please help turn on English subtitles on UA-cam. In order to help me understand politics in Pakistan more. ครับ
good vlog
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yaar the only thing that baffles me is that yahi loog tou power mea hain. Bhai aap karo na ye kaam. Correct me if im wrong but his party of preference has been in power for quite some time. He admits to the failure, perfect! now step 2 is to get these things going and if there are any road blocks then organize peaceful protests! BC we do protests for the shittiest of things, is baat par kartay hain na.
By the way that’s our dilemma we fall heads over heels for anyone who is articulate especially who can speak English… like Bilawal etc while ignoring the substance or the motivations of these evil a-holes
احمد اقبال صاحب جمہوری لیڈر ہے ہم انکو اور انکے والد صاحب پاکستان کا وزییراعظم دیکھنا چاہتے ہیں یہ ہیں اصل جمہوری لوگ
Leh ni painaa 4K😍
Shahzad Bhai please please invite or interview Owais Iqbal
1st comment Keep up the good work
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Is the audio out of sync??
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I want to ask a question..
I have seen so many travel/destination videos of Pakistan but i have not seen state runs public busses in Pakistan... Does govt run busses there or is it totally privatised?
Totally privatized. The state has in the last decades built a public bus network in Lahore and Rawalpindi. There are also a couple of routes in Peshwar and Karachi now. That's pretty much it I think.
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Public transport like bus and train should be the priority of the any govt in developing world.. save lots of money of middle class n poor people. and it create trust towards govt.
@@vikas__patel24 We in India have both when it comes to Busses . Both govt and public but Train is only govt !!!!!
@@TonyStark-mm6qy that's true..
Private is good .. but govt should be there in essential buisness like this.
@@vikas__patel24 Yeah exactly and people in India started having their own vehicles and in 20 years no will use busses maybe 🤷🏻♂️ ( last decade all houses in India atleast have a single bike )
why did Indian parliament get the local government law, does Pakistan need similar law
Gandhiji always support local grass root govt
3:38 when Modi says it’s Hindu Rashtra mentality, otherwise its kosher.
Cute shahzad.
عوام کو لوٹنے کا نام قانون نہیں ہوتا۔
Parking fee ka shoar machao and then government will drop this Parking fee bomb on middle class only. And rich will again find a way to skip this shit😂
agr in public office holders ney bhee rona hee hai and kahaaniaan hee sunaanee hain to program to varh gyab
Property tax bohat kam hy this point is not true ... Hamari govt daiti kia hay jo woh tax demand karti hy
You have compared Shahid Bhagat Singh to Hamas terrorist
One organisation who kills victims and rapes woman is compared with the one who was ready to die for his country
I was a subscriber but now I'm not
Thought you were the sensible one amongst the radicals of Pakistan but at the end faith/religion can takeover one's intellect
Unsubscribing you right now
Good riddance, you need to be violent to fight a violent oppressor
@@wasaymoria9061 yeah by rap... , murdering civilians
Please don't mind but that's the reason why people still thinks Islam is so aggressive
There must be something that every religion has problem with Islam
inse umeed bhi kya karna akhir h to ye flat earth wAle hi😂😂😂😂😂😂
Local govt dictatorship m bnti han democracy ma ghayab 😅
Unfortunately
Shahzad main apki har video dekhti thi mujhe to aap ek liberal lagte the par jo aapko maine twitter par dekha totally different apko kya jarurat pad gayi thi bhagat singh ko beech me lane ki.aur compare bhi kisse kiya aur ek maasi banke kah rhe the ki dekho punjabiyo ye tumhare bare me kya kah rhe hai ki tum unpadh ho.very disappointed
He has a very pronounced bias against Punjabis, sometimes bordering racism. He tries very hard to sound like a liberal humanitarian, but is actually a profit-mongering psychopath.
I agree…was very fond of his podcasts…really appreciated the way he used to present his viewpoint evn though I don’t agree to most of thm but thy were nuanced…but these few days he has really fallen frm grace…his tweets were so disappointing to a level tht now I don’t trust this guy’s opinions anymore..👎🏻👎🏻
Same here
indians in this comment section think you compared bhagat singh with terorists im soo confused????????
@@hulagukhan-we3fw they're fighting for their freedom from an occupying force living under apartheid. That's the comparison.
@@hulagukhan-we3fw 1. Didn't Indian revolutionaries attack the families of British in the war of 1857?
2. Secondly, the land till Attock doesn't belong to the TTP, it belongs to the locals. TTP is barely 15-25K at best, how can their demands overrule the wishes of the millions of locals living there?
@hulagukhan-we3fw there are numerous names. Please Google Udham Singh. He literally went to the UK to kill. What are you talking about? You clearly haven't read history. Or at least you've read a very narrow biased history
سارے ٹیکس غریب عوام کے لئے،،ساری مراعات طاقت سروں کے لئے کسی طاقت ور سے قانون کی پابندی کرواکر دکھائو۔ وہ تو سرے سے آئین پاکستان کی پرواہ ہی نہیں کرتے ردی کی ٹوکری کی نذر کر تے ہیں بات کرتے ہیں قانون کی۔کس کو بیوقوف بنا رہے ہیں ؟
Isn't road tax that rent he is talking abt
bateen is say karwa lo...bhai ap Mayor thay ap nay kiya karnama kiya?
Ahmad bhai achay insan lagte hain laikin in se kahein yeh hitler moustache shave kar dein please.
Isreal Palestine k upper video lao
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Wrong analysis and here is why. Democracy works only when top Politician/Political party has absolute power and can make independent decision. This power will trickle down to local government. In addition Press and government institutions (Law and order/courts, government institutions) needs to function per constitution. This will insure relatively fair election and top politicians has to function to please voters. In India Modi has absolute power however he still needs to win election and please people
No
@@ThePakistanExperience what do you mean by "NO". Democracy is where a poor kid selling chai can become a PM. Black minority could become a president. You need come out of Elite shell and counter argue with some example. Pakistan is still ruled by Nawabs/Zamindars/Elites who demanded Pakistan actually to safeguard their fairytale palaces and Jagir. Please watch your own podcast on Elite's of Pakistan. The reason you are alive and kicking is you found a way not to piss of the one who really matters 😝
Hi
I am looking for what Islam says on this 😢
Arab m bh qabeelay thay and Islamic govt dealt with their heads
Qabilay k leaders were elected by elders of the qabilas
So Islam does kind of recognises it
Shame on you both sons of dectators
You lost some of us by supporting the Terrorists
What?
@@ThePakistanExperience Bhagat Singh didn't target innocent civilians. He didn't capture and r*pe women and children. The ideology of Hamas is to kill each and every Jew. Bhagat Singh was secular. there is place for people of any religion in country govrn by ideology of Bhagat singh.You will not live a single day in country ruled by Hamas.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
good riddance, one shouldn't even want heartless followers like you who can see the 700 Israelis killed but cant see the 2100 Palestinian children killed by Israel in the past decade, because you are blinded by the hate against a particular community that you see every fighting from that community as a terrorist
U just disappointed Me
Why
Crowd bullying karnay agae dogmatic Indiots. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Shitdian moral compass is driven by commercial interests, ours is not.
@@Chlawabhosdi k flat earth wAle
Local Governments👎