I actually really like that you show weekly graphs. I think that approach gives more insight into the grind and what short term variance can look like. Sure it would be nice to look at a graph of millions of hands but that's not really how the game is experienced IMO. You get to millions of hands one session at a time and I think seeing winning players have wild stretches puts things into perspective.
I really appreciate the openness and transparency of continually sharing and making videos through such a bad downswing. Keep showing up, stay process oriented, and good things will likely follow. 💪
i like the longer format. interesting stuff as usual. just curious on why would you hop onto a 2/5/2a game? haven't seen you played any of these in your other videos.
Ben, when you say on the 258 rainbow, that deep you wouldnt chk raise with JT but at 100bb deep chk raise mixes, is that because 100bb deep you get to bet go with it when you pick up equity, or chk shove etc etc?
The x/c x/c x/r line might be one of the most underbluffed spots there is in SRP. That said, I think folding the AT is ok on river, not sure if I could do it though. Your reasoning of him reading into your "weak betsize" might happen less often than your brain trying to find any reason for a call. All the best and GL!
yeah totally can agree that I maybe over levelled myself. although I’d you’re gunna make a speculative call it’s always best to do it vs someone capable!
I think it’s an extremely standard river shove still. I would say you’re likely making fear based assumptions about them not bluff catching and only calling traps! we can’t possibly know how an unknown player will construct their range
seems like such a wild underplay with AA to justify blocking. I can understand some explo reasons but even then I think shoving outweighs those. so hard to know vs an unknown though - block could well be infinitely better vs this player but we’ll never know
Thanks for the quick response! But Honestly I don’t think it’s an extremely standard shove. He has a decent amount of sets (lets say 8 combos), so he needs to bluffcatch at least 8 one pair hand combos for a 400 bb pot which is never a K and your range is AK+ (20+ value combos and little natural bluffs)
tough question as I could be playing up to 10k now! basically wanna mix back in hs when I feel up to handling the big swings. atm very happy playing up to 3k only
Hi Bena, wanted to know if you had losing months? (even with rb) And how often it would happen? I'm asking because both March and April have been losing months for me, and despite knowing that I'm overall a winning player I have a really tough time dealing with that . Thanks!
hey mate! yeah i have plenty of losing months. for the last 5 years I’ve probably had something along the lines of 3 losing, 4/5 even and then 4/5 winning. definitely super normal but also I understand that it feels rough!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker doesn’t change your line at all I don’t think, was just responding to you saying that villain played his hand perfectly, I think 33 might have to fold to flop xr
Ben, do you think spyware might be in any popularly used poker addons? (One in particular that people use for RNG, not naming names) I'm seeing a lot of very good players with very poor graph results. It's almost an anomaly to see someone with a good graph over this last year or so. I understand variance, and I understand things can be worse than you can hope to expect during certain bad runs... But all these very good players, theoretically sound, are showing terrible graphs over fairly significant hand samples, etc. You can say like that I might be overestimating my ability, or that I have tons of leaks... I don't believe that to be true, but even if I grant that... it doesn't account for the fact that I know lots of very good other players that are showing up with very poor graph results over fairly big hand samples (then combining their graphs, which is millions of hands... and they're all losing, or breaking even). Personally I've been a winning player for 10+ years, but this past year is just... strange. Thoughts on this? Could something be going on? Have you been experiencing the same trend within your own group of poker friends? I'm almost at the point of buying a new pc, and not using any poker addons because the suspicion is that high.
If anything, this is pure speculation btw and not a claim, I think the Variance of all the better players at the same time would be more closely related to the volatility of BTC.
I mean it’s not out the realms of possibility, but I would say it’s close to 0% that this is happening. I know plenty of regs who are crushing the games using the same said softwares. I think the games are getting tougher, edges are smaller, and cheating is more prevalent. as a community we need to support one another in preventing cheating, and individually we need to continue to improve our game to give us the greatest chance for a good year
Can we just admit online poker is dead, gtowiz, nitregs, ai solvers, bots, collusion and SUPERUSERS defiled the long dead corpse. Lucky to make 50k/yr at 1knl
tough one to answer mate! it depends on your goals. i have been through periods in my career plating 60-100k hands every month and enjoyed it. also was playing like 200nl so it was a lot easier to get in volume (especially at zoom). I'm now in a place where i only play 3 hours a day. general rule of thumb would simply be what you wanna make as your hourly and take it from there.
Just a general question about bet sizing on the river. When you say.like the example in the video "I go all'in with set and str8 for value and with some bluff and go 66% with 2pair" doesn't leave you unbalanced when you bet 66%? You are capped on your value and never have bluff. Your opponent can fold all bluff catchers and raise all'in with top range and bluff against your 66% size. Or your decision is based in the fact that your opponent doesn't know your strategy? But than is not a GTO line, is an exploitative one. I am not saying your strategy is bad. You are way ahead of my level. Just curious to understand the thinking process a little deeper.
very interesting and good question. so in this exact scenario i will split and not use b66 with any nuts. And I would also assume that this would be the solvers output too. that said, I did acknowledge in the video that betting 66% was likely a mistake theoretically because my value range just wants to go all in. also I would have some other bluffs in my range for the b66. a hand like QJ for example that double blocks villains calls and allows him to have worse Ax
Awesome video mate, subbed and look forward to future content! also if you blur out someones name you might want to blur it out in the run it once/twice box as well 😂 ulul on the 99!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker I'd say those are probably more helpful honestly. The big ones are exciting and all, and your analysis with them really solid, but those aren't super common.
Great content as always Bena. However, I disagree with your KTo thought process on the turn. I think solver prefers to overbet the KTo combos WITH a heart, because those combos block hands that jam the turn and deny our equity (e.g. T9hh, QThh, KThh)
could definitely be correct yep. I didn’t feel super strongly either way - I think I’m just going to barrel turn with basically all my KT always as it just seems so maxEV
3:29 terrible call here Ben to be honest, your calling to chop at best, you couldn't know he was a whopper In advance, what are his bluffs? Maybe Qh Ax which blocks nuts on flop and turn, but you expect these to follow through on river?? I think you are calling to chop at best but mostly just shown KKKK
@@BenaBadBeatPoker some of players don't have real money jus computer make sure they win and if U cash out jus takes it from players other table don't cash out
haha well I’m not thrilled playing on ACR but in comparison to iggy - at least at hs - nearly all regs are known. and if they’re not known they’re under immediate scrutiny. this should mean that overall cheating happens less in my games! as for sitewide, they’re at least working with the player base to remove bots. ignition just completely dusting it off on all fronts haha
I think your overbet shoves are too heavily skewed towards bluff (at least from your videos) and you should balance it out with value as well. Like for example the AT hand in the end i would love to see you 2x pot jam it even tho we block the calling range. (We can balance w KJ QJ KQ i think)
probably some sample size bias in there! also you gotta remember that when I just value shove river for 2x pot and get called by another good hand, it’s not interesting enough to post on UA-cam haha.
@@NoLongerGrilling no way bro put a foodforthought hashtag in the end like its 2012 twitter. Buddy who tf hurt you it was a constructive opinion which bena himself replied with grace. #staymad2024 or #1/2chatprosunite or whatever i guess 🥰😍😋
GG simply rigged their game to increase variance. Every time you flop "stones" on GG you better watch out for interesting runouts. People call those runouts "scenarios" 😅 The only thing they have in common - is that there is no way you can fold at any point 😅
I actually really like that you show weekly graphs. I think that approach gives more insight into the grind and what short term variance can look like. Sure it would be nice to look at a graph of millions of hands but that's not really how the game is experienced IMO. You get to millions of hands one session at a time and I think seeing winning players have wild stretches puts things into perspective.
this x10000. glad you like the weekly graphs - I think it also just helps support the narrative (whatever that really means haha).
This is the most relatable high level theoretical content I've come across. Well done you. Longer is better.
appreciate that a lot mate, thank you 🙏
I really appreciate the openness and transparency of continually sharing and making videos through such a bad downswing. Keep showing up, stay process oriented, and good things will likely follow. 💪
kind and wise words - hugely appreciated - i will be doing exactly that mate
Really enjoyed the longer format. Looking forward to more content 👍
thanks mate!
I stopped watching poker content a while ago, but subbed for this! Good stuff, great content.
thank you mate! thats very kind
i like the longer format. interesting stuff as usual. just curious on why would you hop onto a 2/5/2a game? haven't seen you played any of these in your other videos.
thanks bro! I have one other hand from ante table and am playing a lot more of them! just makes sense to make up numbers of tables
I like it when you lose so I feel less useless
glad to be of assistance lad
hey ben, for the last hand do u think V intentionally snapped the turn to rep the pair+draw part of his range. u did mention V was full explo.
absolutely possibly yep! in fairness that specific read was not a huge contributing factor to my decision though!
Goddamn, all that high level analysis during the last hand about things like the 98s balance and then to see that...
lmfao legit just pissing into the wind🤣🤣
You are becoming a great poker content creator to me. Thanks for been there!
I appreciate that mate!
Ben, when you say on the 258 rainbow, that deep you wouldnt chk raise with JT but at 100bb deep chk raise mixes, is that because 100bb deep you get to bet go with it when you pick up equity, or chk shove etc etc?
i would just much rather have more robust equity that blocking the mid-strength value region from villain when at 200bb deep
@@BenaBadBeatPoker OK nice one
The x/c x/c x/r line might be one of the most underbluffed spots there is in SRP. That said, I think folding the AT is ok on river, not sure if I could do it though. Your reasoning of him reading into your "weak betsize" might happen less often than your brain trying to find any reason for a call. All the best and GL!
yeah totally can agree that I maybe over levelled myself. although I’d you’re gunna make a speculative call it’s always best to do it vs someone capable!
What do you think of the AA rivershove in hindsight? In practice I feel like he has traps and folds and rarely a bluffcatch
I think it’s an extremely standard river shove still. I would say you’re likely making fear based assumptions about them not bluff catching and only calling traps! we can’t possibly know how an unknown player will construct their range
think practically the bluff catchers just get folded. think playing block is likely the best option
seems like such a wild underplay with AA to justify blocking. I can understand some explo reasons but even then I think shoving outweighs those. so hard to know vs an unknown though - block could well be infinitely better vs this player but we’ll never know
Thanks for the quick response! But Honestly I don’t think it’s an extremely standard shove. He has a decent amount of sets (lets say 8 combos), so he needs to bluffcatch at least 8 one pair hand combos for a 400 bb pot which is never a K and your range is AK+ (20+ value combos and little natural bluffs)
Block/fold, they ain't bluffing enough on such a good river card for OOP when OOP has so many available bluffcatchers
In that KTo hand, do we ever have Q8 as you were saying? Since we obet OTT, I don't think Q8 does it (almost) ever.
Yeah, IMO. He's representing sets and straights on the river. He has 75/T9/(pJs??, maybe)/p6's/p4s.
I didn’t specify but I meant Q8hh! I would mostly check the other Q8’s but I don’t think they make the worst bets ott even when polarising
lmaoo im not even hero and these hands sting for me 😆great vid as usual.
hahahah🤣
What stakes do you want to reach and stay at?
tough question as I could be playing up to 10k now! basically wanna mix back in hs when I feel up to handling the big swings. atm very happy playing up to 3k only
This is the best poker content on the internet rn
😻😻😻
Nice one Bena enjoyed that!
thanks bro!
Hi Bena, wanted to know if you had losing months? (even with rb) And how often it would happen? I'm asking because both March and April have been losing months for me, and despite knowing that I'm overall a winning player I have a really tough time dealing with that . Thanks!
hey mate! yeah i have plenty of losing months. for the last 5 years I’ve probably had something along the lines of 3 losing, 4/5 even and then 4/5 winning. definitely super normal but also I understand that it feels rough!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Thanks for your answer, keep up the work! 😄
Love the content (fwiw I think 33 can fold to flop xr in that config)
yeah i agree with you but also didn't think going into it would add any value haha. just pay the person their money and be on my way :D
@@BenaBadBeatPoker doesn’t change your line at all I don’t think, was just responding to you saying that villain played his hand perfectly, I think 33 might have to fold to flop xr
Ben, do you think spyware might be in any popularly used poker addons? (One in particular that people use for RNG, not naming names)
I'm seeing a lot of very good players with very poor graph results. It's almost an anomaly to see someone with a good graph over this last year or so. I understand variance, and I understand things can be worse than you can hope to expect during certain bad runs... But all these very good players, theoretically sound, are showing terrible graphs over fairly significant hand samples, etc.
You can say like that I might be overestimating my ability, or that I have tons of leaks... I don't believe that to be true, but even if I grant that... it doesn't account for the fact that I know lots of very good other players that are showing up with very poor graph results over fairly big hand samples (then combining their graphs, which is millions of hands... and they're all losing, or breaking even).
Personally I've been a winning player for 10+ years, but this past year is just... strange.
Thoughts on this? Could something be going on? Have you been experiencing the same trend within your own group of poker friends?
I'm almost at the point of buying a new pc, and not using any poker addons because the suspicion is that high.
If anything, this is pure speculation btw and not a claim, I think the Variance of all the better players at the same time would be more closely related to the volatility of BTC.
I mean it’s not out the realms of possibility, but I would say it’s close to 0% that this is happening. I know plenty of regs who are crushing the games using the same said softwares. I think the games are getting tougher, edges are smaller, and cheating is more prevalent. as a community we need to support one another in preventing cheating, and individually we need to continue to improve our game to give us the greatest chance for a good year
Yes, just look at the GG superuser scandal. Everyone forgotten about it already.
Can we just admit online poker is dead, gtowiz, nitregs, ai solvers, bots, collusion and SUPERUSERS defiled the long dead corpse. Lucky to make 50k/yr at 1knl
games far from dead yet mate!
Hi Ben your channel is quality. What is better, 20k hands a month of good focused volume or 40k hands a month where your game is slightly worse?
tough one to answer mate! it depends on your goals. i have been through periods in my career plating 60-100k hands every month and enjoyed it. also was playing like 200nl so it was a lot easier to get in volume (especially at zoom). I'm now in a place where i only play 3 hours a day. general rule of thumb would simply be what you wanna make as your hourly and take it from there.
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Appreciate the advice, GL with your games
10:17 - Ben from my experience on GG i would be behind to Quad 2s or 5s on this flop!
100% of the time
Just a general question about bet sizing on the river. When you say.like the example in the video "I go all'in with set and str8 for value and with some bluff and go 66% with 2pair" doesn't leave you unbalanced when you bet 66%? You are capped on your value and never have bluff. Your opponent can fold all bluff catchers and raise all'in with top range and bluff against your 66% size. Or your decision is based in the fact that your opponent doesn't know your strategy? But than is not a GTO line, is an exploitative one. I am not saying your strategy is bad. You are way ahead of my level. Just curious to understand the thinking process a little deeper.
very interesting and good question. so in this exact scenario i will split and not use b66 with any nuts. And I would also assume that this would be the solvers output too. that said, I did acknowledge in the video that betting 66% was likely a mistake theoretically because my value range just wants to go all in. also I would have some other bluffs in my range for the b66. a hand like QJ for example that double blocks villains calls and allows him to have worse Ax
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Awesome video mate, subbed and look forward to future content! also if you blur out someones name you might want to blur it out in the run it once/twice box as well 😂 ulul on the 99!
hahaha yeah I know. tbh it’s not really about full censoring people, rather than just for the most part not fully outing people throughout the hand!
Amazing quality videos. I'm certain you run into many more interesting spots. It would be great to see longer form content.
I do yes! but these are some of the most interesting. how would you feel about watching smaller non all in pots?
@@BenaBadBeatPoker I'd say those are probably more helpful honestly. The big ones are exciting and all, and your analysis with them really solid, but those aren't super common.
@@Lucas-fh5dl awesome. the next vid has a couple smaller pots so please let me know what you think! glgl
my bluff filled up :P
you are lingo fish
Great content as always Bena. However, I disagree with your KTo thought process on the turn. I think solver prefers to overbet the KTo combos WITH a heart, because those combos block hands that jam the turn and deny our equity (e.g. T9hh, QThh, KThh)
could definitely be correct yep. I didn’t feel super strongly either way - I think I’m just going to barrel turn with basically all my KT always as it just seems so maxEV
Great vid😁
thank you!
This video dropped at the perfect time, just had a set over set one outered on river
noooo, may the poker gods bless you in your next session 🙏
Its GG ben he had 5555 on the flop
ffs legit true
that 9s hand fml
sometimes it just has to come in 🥲
I like how you called the QJo player a nit and then you're in a similar spot with ATcc. Everybody is a nit
sometimes you gotta project your nittiness onto other players!
The runouts are always so wacky on GG compared to stars
haha they haven’t been kind so far 🤣
I think if no episode next week, we should be getting 50min video!
haha I actually squeezed in a vid for you 🔥
@@BenaBadBeatPoker 🔥 🔥 🔥
Ohh yeahhhhh BENA
1 more week til I win yours and smits house ❤️
100z videos while in London. Road back to the micros take series!!
definitely a likely video. but prob 500z!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker that doesn’t exist anymore mate.
3:29 terrible call here Ben to be honest, your calling to chop at best, you couldn't know he was a whopper In advance, what are his bluffs? Maybe Qh Ax which blocks nuts on flop and turn, but you expect these to follow through on river?? I think you are calling to chop at best but mostly just shown KKKK
noooo
@@BenaBadBeatPoker you know I was joking right?
yes
Bena Bad G
Edit: for the record I mean that In the positive way
#riggedforwhales
🤣
Also has credit stealing
what you mean credit stealing
@@BenaBadBeatPoker some of players don't have real money jus computer make sure they win and if U cash out jus takes it from players other table don't cash out
Youre not okay with playing on Ignition but youre okay playing on Americas Crime Ring? Does not compute.
haha well I’m not thrilled playing on ACR but in comparison to iggy - at least at hs - nearly all regs are known. and if they’re not known they’re under immediate scrutiny. this should mean that overall cheating happens less in my games! as for sitewide, they’re at least working with the player base to remove bots. ignition just completely dusting it off on all fronts haha
Please show the red and blue lines as well if you are showing the graph at all.
Unless you specifically left those out.
I don’t leave them out intentionally and do sometimes post, but generally don’t feel it’s the ay necessary
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Would appreciate if you do :)
nit bisonte or rdzone
now I see the 55 hand and it says the sn lol
haha
Too many KEWLERS :(
queue-luhs
More unreal content, just run better in the UK 🔥
timezone too tuff
I think your overbet shoves are too heavily skewed towards bluff (at least from your videos) and you should balance it out with value as well. Like for example the AT hand in the end i would love to see you 2x pot jam it even tho we block the calling range. (We can balance w KJ QJ KQ i think)
probably some sample size bias in there! also you gotta remember that when I just value shove river for 2x pot and get called by another good hand, it’s not interesting enough to post on UA-cam haha.
@@NoLongerGrilling i said "at least from his videos" r you illiterate?
@@NoLongerGrilling no way bro put a foodforthought hashtag in the end like its 2012 twitter. Buddy who tf hurt you it was a constructive opinion which bena himself replied with grace. #staymad2024 or #1/2chatprosunite or whatever i guess 🥰😍😋
Pokerstars?!? Make sure to Reloadraven your account ;)
OMFG the cryptic genius from the LEGEND himself ❤️❤️
GG simply rigged their game to increase variance. Every time you flop "stones" on GG you better watch out for interesting runouts. People call those runouts "scenarios" 😅 The only thing they have in common - is that there is no way you can fold at any point 😅
🤣🤣 atm this feel true!
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O offense but why you playing on ignition that site more rigged the acr
I’ve stopped playing there! just had that hand left over to post as it was pretty interesting
Also can you stop with the fantastic production quality? You're gonna overtake me and I don't like it
Lighting is on point
lmaooo we are a ways off that yet ❤️
Shockingly bad. I really think you need to sit under a tree for 72 hours and seriously consider quitting.
can I not quit from the comfort of my own home??
This video is a bit stationy
hahaha sometimes you gotta put your money in the middle
firsttt
ayyy gg