One of the most detailed and exciting reviews for a video editing software that I’ve ever seen. Film emulation is such a deep topic and you absolutely nailed this. If I didn’t already own Dehancer, you would have sold me on it.. cheers.
Wow thank you so much for such kind words!! I can't really claim to be any sort of expert on film, as it's mainly been a subjective feeling for me over the years, not quite understanding why I liked it so much, but browsing Dehancer's FAQ's and learning more about the film process just solidified the feeling and made me aware of the reasons why I do like it! So I'm super happy what I talked about subjectively and objectively in the video would have sold you on it, that means a lot to hear! Thanks so much!! :)
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Dear Rob Ellis even I who do not understand the English language well and I find your video very interesting and very well explained. Thank you so much Dear Rob. I follow you from Algeria.
Another thing I say is key to having a solid emulation is saving your highlights, the range of films highlights is leaps and bounds better than digital sensors, so if anyone is shooting to emulate and you can stop down a bit or if you can shift your EI so you have the most stops in highlights possible that way you’ll get that smooth roll off film has
Man, you brought back my excitement for film. I'm sold on this plugin. And also, right now I just want to go outside with my Mamiya, which I haven't touched in over a year, and capture moments. 💫
That's fantastic to hear! Using the plugin and making the video has given me a similar experience - I hadn't used my film camera for a good few years, but it inspired me to pick it back up and start shooting stuff again. So I'm super pleased the video inspired you to do the same!!
Yo, by far I can only say that your video review regarding denhancer is the best one on youtube. you make really good videos !!! it inspired me to really put in the maximum effort into creating astonishing color grades
this is the best dehancer guide rn, hope you make a step by step color grading guide with dehancer because your work looks very good and accurate. cheers!
Thank you so much not only for sharing a better insight into your post-production process, but also explaining in superb detail what makes Dehancer such a great tool!
I am very grateful for this channel and for your expertise Rob, it has played a huge role in helping me understand the importance of light and your simplicity in explaining how to achieve the cinematic look with certain techniques. Thank you sir. Much love from South Africa
@@RobEllisCinematographer it has been very much helpful thank you. Truly a hidden gem of a channel. So truly grateful to have stumbled upon your channel.
Great video, and thank you for the tip about film print emulation. While Dehancer makes things look "like film", the final print emulation is what makes a video look like a blockbuster.
Thanks Eugenia! Absolutely, I would have loved to have gone a bit more in depth with the film print side and shown how you can use Dehancer for more of that big blockbuster film look too - but I decided to wait until they release the film print emulation within the plugin, as I reckon they will do a better job with it than I can haha! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hi Rob, 🙏 for this video. There’s one thing I find difficult to understand, it’s the difference between normal and luma ( color mode ). The thing is, not everyone is familiar with the technical side of shooting film in the old days so, perhaps more summarized informations on the matter would help us to use this plugin more often.
@@RobEllisCinematographer Your strange approach feels as entertaining as watching a documentary film. I believe you'll hit a million within a few years if you keep this quality content going. Warm regards.👏
@@Bo_Hazem wow thanks Bo! Let's hope so - UA-cam is a tough one, as I hate trying to play to an algorithm haha. Which means I don't upload as much as I think it would like me to. So it might be a slow build up but let's hope we get there! Hope you're well! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks, mate. I'm glad you're not uploading just for the sake of it as each video screams with patience and passion to the very small details. I really hope you keep up with your great content and make sure that not all appreciatives of your content are in the comment section, or otherwise it'll be flooded! I know how expensive and time consuming this work can be, but make sure to keep coming with your short "films". Not enough time on hand at the moment for me but will try to check your color grading tutorials and LUT's. What's great about your content is filming those cinematic scenes by yourself instead of using 3rd party ones, which means you get to experience every obstacle on the way. I'm very amateur in that regard but starting my very own production company (only me and my wife) and lighting seems to be a tricky subject. I'm struggling myself to stand on my feet and I know showing some appreciation to your content should help with the morale, just like most people during this era with the dodgy virus.😜 Best wishes to you in this new year, mate,🙏
I would love a badass Rob Ellis video where he shows his exact settings for filming on the BMPCC6K! Come on Rob!!! Also, if you have LUTs let me buy them! Your channel has helped me immensely Brother!
Same settings as any other camera really, no big secret behind that - I usually shoot BRAW 5:1 or 8:1, that's the only Pocket 6K specific thing I do to be honest haha! I don't make LUTs, just use them! You can go a long way with Resolve's built in film print LUT (I have a colour grading tutorial for £8 on my website which involves this) and I also really like Vision Color's Impulz LUTs. Thanks so much man I'm happy to hear that!! :)
It's fantastic, I've been looking for a plugin that can emulate film with this sort of accuracy for years, so I cannot recommend it enough! Thanks man!! :) 😀
Man, the more I see footage of the BMMCC, the more I'm glad I own one. I love the convenience of the Pocket 4K, but it's just something about the motion, whether it's the camera moving or the subject, that feels... like I'm looking at a scene that was shot on a camera... rather than being immersed in the moment. That snow falling shot at 13:19 is a really beautiful captured example. There's an immediate feeling conveyed in a matter of seconds.
The BMMCC, the original Pocket and the original BMCC 2.5K are a bloody beautiful set of sensors! And I totally know what you mean about an immediate feeling conveyed in seconds, it's something I get from those cameras a lot!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Yeah I grew up with 90's movies and I still think its probably the best decade for cinema, so I'm kind of biased in what I think movies should look like. There are still great examples of cinematography in more recent movies like Interstellar, A Quiet Place, and anything Deakins, so really whether film or digital it ultimately comes down to using the tools to make the film the best it can be. It's really cool to live in a time where so many tools are at our disposal and that really anyone can make an actual, proper film. Every time I come back to one of your videos it reignites that creative spark. You've got a fantastic channel here, keep up the great work!
@@glenis83 me too! Born in 91 so I watched a lot of 80's and 90's movies when I was younger - film is definitely burned into my brain and represents a lot of feelings and ideas I can't quite express in words. Even down to old family photos being disposable camera film prints, those memories exist purely in film form now and I find the whole process of film, and on some level the way it looks, similar to memories and dreams, imperfect and rough around the edges. To me it's just very congruent to the way our minds process images and I think that's why it feels a little more magic - like something you can't quite grasp but feels really familiar! I totally agree that we live in an exciting time to have all these options with the tools we use to create, at affordable prices too! Thank you so much for your kind words and I'm very happy to hear my videos are igniting a spark in you!! That makes what I do worth it, so thank you! 😊
Title: How to Emulate Film-Easily and Acurately-Color Grading with Dehancer My mind: This a dem documentary What a beautiful way to present a plugin....Bravo sir
This the best video I watched on dehancer. I saw the plugin when it was in beta but never really understood much what it does. Watch a couple of videos here n there but yours really showed how its woaw. I recently sold my bmpcc og too and been missing the image a lot. New sensors images are so digital that everyone work looks the same :( and I hate to look like everyone!
Thank you, I appreciate it! :) and happy I could show you how it works! Dehancer goes beyond that original Blackmagic camera feeling as it actually feels like film - even with a newer higher resolution sensor. Love it!
Yo this is great. When you use the print film lut in resolve, my understanding is that they are made for Rec709 color and Cineon gamma, I saw that you transformed the color to blackmagic film and then added saturation. I’m sure you have messed with this already, but I thought I would mention at least. The results with rec709 color in your output transform would mean you wouldn’t have to push the saturation, it should just look proper straight away!
Very cool, Rob! I think you and I have very similar opinions on the original Blackmagic cameras (RIP to my original pocket) and are looking for specific characteristics... I'm def going to look into this for my next short that I'm finishing up this week! Again. love the pacing and vibe in your vids.
Thanks so much Jesse! Those cameras are still beautiful to this day! Oh damn what happened to the Pocket?! I absolutely recommend it, fantastic plugin all round. Thanks for your kind words man :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer didn’t have the port protector on and snapped the little HDMI connector loose. Thought I could just glue it in place, but it’s soldered directly to the board with microscopic little connections 😥 … I’m not that confident of a solderer.
@@jessesenko damn, I had an issue with my original BMCC just a few years ago and Blackmagic fixed it (for a fee, of course) so it might be worth giving them a go, providing they still have the appropriate parts! Although I'm not sure how much second hand Pockets are these days as it might cost a similar amount haha!
@@RobEllisCinematographer gonna re-set-up a classifieds alert for one. Will be cheaper than fixing it... I think. I think that cam will be "retro cool" soon haha... I had the original BMCC... was one of the first to buy, but went through 4 to get one that worked properly.
Brilliant! I own this plugin. Could you do a quick tutorial on grading with Dehancer, maybe indoors and outdoors? FYI, I usually grade under wide gamut because of the insane dynamic range it gives me. And another important question: which is the best Kelvin settings for each scenario? I know outdoors is 5600. How about indoors during daylight, etc? Or should I do a quick white balance in post? Cheers
Thanks Lee! It's a great plugin right?! I try to upload topics that are little lengthier on my channel, but in any situation using Dehancer really, I would grade exposure in a similar way to how I did it on this video when we looked the Expand and Print options - depending on the mood of the shot of course, as crushing the black point could be used for a certain look. The correct way to balance for the film stock as shown in the video is to use a white balance matching that of the film stock you're using, regardless of the situation, as this replicates the film stock colours accurately. However, there isn't any reason you can't get creative and make new looks by choosing a different white balance that fits your vision for the scene - or if you've only used tungsten lighting and you want to use a daylight balanced film stock, you might want to select a white balance closer to 3200K, for example. Hope that helps :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Is there somewhere where I could see which Kelvin number works best for each film stock? **EDIT Oh, I see now. T is for tungsten which is K3200 and D is daylight K5500. Thanks!
@@leebrandt8597 That's the one! I instinctively balanced to 5600k in the video when it really should've been 5500k - and there's me talking about accuracy 🤣 no worries, happy to help!! 😀
Nice one Rob, just got this plugin. I'm gonna link this vid in the description of a new vid I'm uploading soon if that's OK. You know a shit-ton about this stuff and this video is a work of art. Well done.
Hey Hugh, sorry a bit of a slow reply here! Absolutely, feel free! I didn't know a huge amount before, but Dehancer's FAQ's taught me a lot! Extremely helpful stuff! Thank you so much!! :)
Hi, can you recommend exporting settings for good grain? Cause I'd always export my weddings and event videos by h264 codec at 10.000 bitrate, but the grain looks really bad with that settings. So I need something, that my customers will be able to see on any device(I think h265 would be problematic) and it won't be tens of gigabytes... Maybe you also have some recommended settings to export for instagram. TIA!
Dear Rob Ellis if I have a Lumix S1H is that what I can use with Dehancer because I can't find it on the list of compatible cameras. moreover I would like you to explain to me how you did with the Lumix S5 because it is not on the list of compatible cameras on Dehancer either.
Not sure if Dehancer paid you to create this video, but WELL DONE. It feels much more like a documentary than a commercial to me. I was in doubt if I really needed to buy the plugin, but now I'll definitely add it to my tools.
I got Dehancer for free and I'm on their affiliate program in exchange for the review - but I didn't really have to put together something like this, it could have been a simple review - I'm just very interested in the topic and the plugin is fantastic so I felt like it definitely deserved a bit more!! I'm happy you enjoyed it!! 😊
Spherical aberrations or what you call bloom is not mainly caused by the coatings on the glass but by the lens design too. There are lenses that don’t have any coatings on the glass and are very sharp and have almost no spherical aberrations. And there’re lenses with modern coatings and lots of spherical aberrations.
Good stuff!! I referred to Dehancer's FAQs on their website for some of the info in the video, including bloom - might be worth emailing them and asking if they'll add that in! It's a fantastic resource and the extra info there would certainly be helpful I'm sure!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Have you heard of Spectra Film? It’s not out yet. It’s by an ILM VFX artist and based on the same principles as Steve Yedlin’s emulation is. There is a lot of info on the guy Instagram profile. His names Miguel Santana.
@@VariTimo I hadn't, but I just signed up for the newsletter after checking out some of the examples on his Instagram. I'm excited to see more! Appreciate the info, thank you! :)
I've always liked Filmconvert and have used it a fair amount for suitable work - but like you said, always felt like something was missing and it stopped me from using it as much as I would have liked to. I'm glad you're sold on Dehancer though, it really is bloody fantastic and I'm glad that came through on the video! Cheers man!
@@washbuns so far I've not done anything too complicated with it, mainly just graded with Dehancer as a final node and made little adjustments in nodes before if need be, along with using the 2383 emulation LUT as a final node as shown in the video! I'll definitely be using Dehancer as a base for some more complicated grades, although my node trees can be an absolute mess and no one needs to publicly see that haha 🤣
I see it's also just for DaVinci which I have, but always found the set up preferences so daunting for a novice like me. FCPX seems quite a lot simpler to use. I suppose I really should just find some good DaVinci tutorials and a ton of time to learn it.
The older Blackmagic Cameras used Fairchild sensors in which gave it that film-like look. I'm thinking BM turned from these sensor due to the rise in the very polished, clean and overly sharp look from more modern cameras like Sony and Panasonic. BM had to cater to the common user so I totally understand why. ARRI may have something to do with as well considering BM was releasing camera's with the same goal - digital cinema camera that rendered an image like film. RED made a huge deal about ProRes so I wouldn't be surprised if ARRi shot back at BM for potentially putting a huge dent in a market they dominate.
I can't recommend it enough! Resolve has some VHS emulation built in under OFX I believe, but whether or not it's very authentic I couldn't say - would be an interesting one to see done properly!
Hi Rob! Thank you for your efforts here! Can you please give me your thoughts on FilmConvert vs this? I currently own Nitrate and I'm considering getting this to upgrade
@@captureinsidethesound Well, given for any graded project you would always shoot log. So are you saying Film Convert vs Dehancer is dependent on whether you shoot in REC709 or log? That doesnt seem right.
For the motion picture stocks a D will dictate daylight (so 5500k or 5600k, I forget which exactly!) and T will dictate tungsten (so 3200k) - all of the other stocks are still film stocks and most of them I believe would be daylight. You can always double check the name of the film to see if its daylight or tungsten with a Google search 😁 edit: obviously you don't have to match them completely and can still use white balance creatively as we have the flexibility of digitally working with the video!
Great video, what microphone are you using to record your voiceover, the sound is so clear! Also do you do any post processing on the vocals? Thank you in advance
I truly love your content, and i think you're a really talented person ! thanks for the exciting video about this plugin. I would LOVE to see how you work with the plugin within davinci node tree, do you put it after the exposure and WB or at the last node of the project? how would i work with it if i buy it? Thank you.
Thank you so much! Dehancer is generally the final node in the tree, then any other adjustments can be made non-destructively underneath. But Dehancer also allows you change things like exposure, so it's a balance between the plugin and anything you may need to tweak before it!
Thank you so much! It's the camera comfort cushion - www.alangordon.com/product/our-products/camera-comfort-cushion - much more comfortable and easy to balance than a pad that connects to the rig itself, also super convenient when you're switching from tripod to shoulder, you just take the camera off the tripod and whack it straight on your shoulder :)
The 6K Pro is my current setup! I am sorely missing the IBIS from the S5, but only for really specific situations. I love both of the cameras, but the Blackmagic has the advantage of BRAW which is great!
Great review. It is seriously slowing down my system though .. cannot have real time on the timeline ... RTX2070 + Cuda plugin 1080p... I wonder what went wrong
Thanks Yann! Yeah I believe they're still optimising it for Windows so it can be pretty laggy. I'm running an extremely old system so I'm very much used to working around lag so I've not been too bothered by it, as long as the grade comes last in the chain! Rendering is a different issue though, I definitely need to update my system for that haha.
I wouldn't ditch the pro mist filters, as every project is different - Dehancer's bloom is a representation of the way bloom occurs when film grain is distributed, you might want a super clean modern image with bloom, in which instance a pro mist filter might suit that scenario better without the extra post processing involved. Many tools can be used for different purposes and it's always best to have options!
Hey Rob, thank you so much for the video! How would you compare it to using nitrate and Juan Melaras Powergrade? I‘m using this at the moment (saw it on your blog if I remeber correctly) and am hesitant of the extra money for dehance will give me much better results?! Also, how are they different in terms of „easy to use“? thank you again!!
Nitrate is great, but Dehancer offers all the extra tools I demonstrated in the video which really sell the film look and feel. You can get a more modern look similar to the way I used Nitrate in that blog post using Dehancer, which is also in the video, but the team at Dehancer are also going to be implementing it into the plugin itself at some point soon! Very easy to use once you get used to it, it's just sliders really! :)
Brilliant Rob. Going to check this out! When it comes to film grain, do you have to work differently to consider UA-cam compression at all for these videos? Asking because the grain looks great here.
Thank you! I highly recommend it! So for this, I actually uploaded a 75GB 12 bit DNxHR file just to make sure the grain showed at 4K (it becomes murky at 1080, but that's just good old UA-cam) - however, I should think exporting that 12 bit DNxHR in 4K and using something like Handbrake to transcode to a high quality h264/h265 would have worked nicely too (albeit a little loss of quality in comparison). I'll check this on future uploads! I had to leave my computer running all night to upload that 75GB file haha so I'm not keen on doing that for every upload!
I actually ditched the S5 in favour of the BMPCC6k Pro haha - but yes, I still have the BMMCC and the original BMCC 2.5k :) so many B's and M's and C's haha
@@RobEllisCinematographer haha nice to hear that you still have the good old Blackmagic cameras. :) However I am not familiar with the new models, I realized recently that BM discontinued the Micro cameras so I quickly bought a second unit just to be sure that I can still shoot with it for long
@@broaf I will have them for as long as they're functioning haha! I went for the 6K Pro because there's a little something in that sensor I didn't feel from the other newer line of BM cams, not quite sure what that something is! Yeah, it would be nice if BM still produced some of their older line of cameras, or even brought out an update or two, but I don't know the logistics involved to do that, it might just not be something they can do as a company! Just hope they will still fix the older cameras if any of mine break haha!
@@RobEllisCinematographer as far as I know, they told that chipsets are no longer in production therefore they cannot provide new units anymore... I am thinking the same in regard of using them as long as they are functioning. Hopefully BM will introduce a new model once with the Micro form factor as I really like this cube shape style and its size (in MFT format). Unfortunately there is no Fairchild sensor anymore on the market (and nothing similar) but hopefully BM can develop a similar look with their newer Color Science (especially if you found that 6K Pro has already has similar feel)
Do you get better results grading your footage first with Aces and then apply dehancer or can you edit Log footage using only Dehancer? I've different things.
I would ultimately recommend Pro, purely because you get all the emulation features - but with Lite you still get all the film stocks, colour, grain and bloom (and a couple other things I think), which are all still important features in making the look :)
Most of the grading itself when using Dehancer is contained in the plugin, so it's pretty plug and play in regards to using it in Resolve - it's just a case of dragging Dehancer from the OFX menu into a node - but I recommend looking up some basic tutorials on how to use nodes in Resolve, as you may want to adjust some things like colour/contrast/exposure-wise outside of the plugin to fine tune things :) if you're proficient in Premiere it should feel pretty intuitive to work out, but then again, I know how it feels to switch, as I used Premiere a few months ago and I couldn't make head or tail of it! Haha 😅
Hey man just want to say I've binged a lot of your videos lately and I love your content but I have a question I'm trying to achieve this look on a Samsung note9 with my filmic pro app using a gimbal is this even possible to get this look I'm no expert I'm still learning Davinci
I've not had the chance to test Dehancer with phone footage yet, but I have seen someone else do this online and it looked great, but I can't for the life of me find the video! You can definitely get good results using it with phone footage though. I'll have to run some tests soon! Thank you for the kind words!
@@RobEllisCinematographer thank you for the response I'll try to keep tweaking the footage and see if I get the result I have a few arri lights Im borrowing from a friend. And of course man your channel deserves more subs it's helping a lot of people and it's inspiring. the community appreciates you for commenting back as well keep up the great work
One of the most detailed and exciting reviews for a video editing software that I’ve ever seen. Film emulation is such a deep topic and you absolutely nailed this. If I didn’t already own Dehancer, you would have sold me on it.. cheers.
Wow thank you so much for such kind words!! I can't really claim to be any sort of expert on film, as it's mainly been a subjective feeling for me over the years, not quite understanding why I liked it so much, but browsing Dehancer's FAQ's and learning more about the film process just solidified the feeling and made me aware of the reasons why I do like it! So I'm super happy what I talked about subjectively and objectively in the video would have sold you on it, that means a lot to hear! Thanks so much!! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer You're very welcome! I'm just very thankful for your UA-cam channel and all the knowledge you share with all of us!
Thank you for the review, Rob! Our photo plugin for Lr and Ps is now available Windows owners. Don't miss the beta tests. Anyone can join by reaching us through email.
Ask any questions below.
This is THE reference for Dehancer. This is so incredibly well made and well thought through. I enjoyed watching it.
Dear Rob Ellis
even I who do not understand the English language well and I find your video very interesting and very well explained.
Thank you so much Dear Rob.
I follow you from Algeria.
The way Rob shares his experience is on another level! Keep up the amazing work you doing for this community my friend! Cheers from Bolivia.
Thank you so much! I appreciate it! :) cheers from the UK!
Another thing I say is key to having a solid emulation is saving your highlights, the range of films highlights is leaps and bounds better than digital sensors, so if anyone is shooting to emulate and you can stop down a bit or if you can shift your EI so you have the most stops in highlights possible that way you’ll get that smooth roll off film has
I was just looking into ways to achieve the look similar to Steve Yedlin's process for film emulation.
Dehancer seems to be just right for this!
I don't think you'll be disappointed! 😊
I have never seen such a beautiful tutorial in my entire life. This is gold. 🔥❤️
This channel is sooo underrated!
Thank you so much! 😄 youtube is a tough game haha!
Best video I've seen on Dehancer and of course now Kodak 2383 and also a Fuji print stock are both now included with the plug-in.
The work throughout this video is stunning, absolutely beautiful.
Thank you so much, I really do appreciate that! :)
You are the only channel I have notifications on for. Thank you for what you do.
Wow thank you so much Daniel! I really do appreciate that! Thank you for your kind words and support! :)
By far, this is the best Dehancer video and film emulation review video. Great work!
Thank you so much! It's an amazing plugin!
Rob you truly are the best on youtube and I mean that
Man, you brought back my excitement for film. I'm sold on this plugin. And also, right now I just want to go outside with my Mamiya, which I haven't touched in over a year, and capture moments. 💫
That's fantastic to hear! Using the plugin and making the video has given me a similar experience - I hadn't used my film camera for a good few years, but it inspired me to pick it back up and start shooting stuff again. So I'm super pleased the video inspired you to do the same!!
Yo, by far I can only say that your video review regarding denhancer is the best one on youtube. you make really good videos !!! it inspired me to really put in the maximum effort into creating astonishing color grades
Wow thank you so much! I'm happy it inspired you too! :)
Rob I think you have the best colour grade on UA-cam whether or not you use a plugin, that's why I subscribed to you
Wow thank you so much!! I appreciate it! 😊
BEST DETAILS EVER ON DEHANCER thanks
this is the best dehancer guide rn, hope you make a step by step color grading guide with dehancer because your work looks very good and accurate. cheers!
Thanks so much Sebastian! I may look into doing this in future if it would be helpful! :)
One of your best videos Rob! All contextualization, explanation... So great! Thank you
Wow thank you so much Leo!! I get a little worried when I put my own subjective opinions into a video, so I'm glad it resonated with you! :)
Thank you so much not only for sharing a better insight into your post-production process, but also explaining in superb detail what makes Dehancer such a great tool!
Absolutely! I'm glad it all came through clearly, thank you so much! :)
I am very grateful for this channel and for your expertise Rob, it has played a huge role in helping me understand the importance of light and your simplicity in explaining how to achieve the cinematic look with certain techniques. Thank you sir. Much love from South Africa
I really appreciate it, thank you so much for letting me know how my channel has helped you and I'm glad it has! All the love from the UK! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer it has been very much helpful thank you. Truly a hidden gem of a channel. So truly grateful to have stumbled upon your channel.
Great video, and thank you for the tip about film print emulation. While Dehancer makes things look "like film", the final print emulation is what makes a video look like a blockbuster.
Thanks Eugenia! Absolutely, I would have loved to have gone a bit more in depth with the film print side and shown how you can use Dehancer for more of that big blockbuster film look too - but I decided to wait until they release the film print emulation within the plugin, as I reckon they will do a better job with it than I can haha! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hi Rob,
🙏 for this video.
There’s one thing I find difficult to understand, it’s the difference between normal and luma ( color mode ).
The thing is, not everyone is familiar with the technical side of shooting film in the old days so, perhaps more summarized informations on the matter would help us to use this plugin more often.
Finally someone who knows what they're talking about wrt Dehancer
Thank you for this! I’m constantly chasing the film look.
Me too! But I feel like I can slow down a little now haha. Thank you for watching!! :)
I try not to make too many impulse purchases, but this video just sold me Dehancer.
Glad I could help with that decision, you won't be disappointed! It's a fantastic plugin!
rob your voice always make me focus and listen thanks for sharing
Thank you so much, happy to hear that! Thank you for watching! :)
You are so amazing, mate. I can't stress enough how I enjoy your content. So unique, informative, and entertaining!
Thank you so so much! I really appreciate your kind words and comments and I'm glad you're getting so much out of my videos! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Your strange approach feels as entertaining as watching a documentary film. I believe you'll hit a million within a few years if you keep this quality content going. Warm regards.👏
@@Bo_Hazem wow thanks Bo! Let's hope so - UA-cam is a tough one, as I hate trying to play to an algorithm haha. Which means I don't upload as much as I think it would like me to. So it might be a slow build up but let's hope we get there! Hope you're well! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks, mate. I'm glad you're not uploading just for the sake of it as each video screams with patience and passion to the very small details. I really hope you keep up with your great content and make sure that not all appreciatives of your content are in the comment section, or otherwise it'll be flooded! I know how expensive and time consuming this work can be, but make sure to keep coming with your short "films". Not enough time on hand at the moment for me but will try to check your color grading tutorials and LUT's. What's great about your content is filming those cinematic scenes by yourself instead of using 3rd party ones, which means you get to experience every obstacle on the way. I'm very amateur in that regard but starting my very own production company (only me and my wife) and lighting seems to be a tricky subject. I'm struggling myself to stand on my feet and I know showing some appreciation to your content should help with the morale, just like most people during this era with the dodgy virus.😜
Best wishes to you in this new year, mate,🙏
This was a fantastic presentation. Thank you. I can't wait to see film print stock emulation.
Thank you so much! It is out now and I should be covering it soon! :)
I would love a badass Rob Ellis video where he shows his exact settings for filming on the BMPCC6K! Come on Rob!!! Also, if you have LUTs let me buy them! Your channel has helped me immensely Brother!
Same settings as any other camera really, no big secret behind that - I usually shoot BRAW 5:1 or 8:1, that's the only Pocket 6K specific thing I do to be honest haha! I don't make LUTs, just use them! You can go a long way with Resolve's built in film print LUT (I have a colour grading tutorial for £8 on my website which involves this) and I also really like Vision Color's Impulz LUTs. Thanks so much man I'm happy to hear that!! :)
This plugin looks like a game changer! Great video Rob!
It's fantastic, I've been looking for a plugin that can emulate film with this sort of accuracy for years, so I cannot recommend it enough! Thanks man!! :) 😀
Dehancer is truly amazing. Great video/coverage, Prof Ellis.
It's pretty damn fantastic and I expect I'll be using it for a lot projects going forward! Thanks man, good to hear from you! 😄
Man, the more I see footage of the BMMCC, the more I'm glad I own one. I love the convenience of the Pocket 4K, but it's just something about the motion, whether it's the camera moving or the subject, that feels... like I'm looking at a scene that was shot on a camera... rather than being immersed in the moment. That snow falling shot at 13:19 is a really beautiful captured example. There's an immediate feeling conveyed in a matter of seconds.
The BMMCC, the original Pocket and the original BMCC 2.5K are a bloody beautiful set of sensors! And I totally know what you mean about an immediate feeling conveyed in seconds, it's something I get from those cameras a lot!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Yeah I grew up with 90's movies and I still think its probably the best decade for cinema, so I'm kind of biased in what I think movies should look like. There are still great examples of cinematography in more recent movies like Interstellar, A Quiet Place, and anything Deakins, so really whether film or digital it ultimately comes down to using the tools to make the film the best it can be. It's really cool to live in a time where so many tools are at our disposal and that really anyone can make an actual, proper film. Every time I come back to one of your videos it reignites that creative spark. You've got a fantastic channel here, keep up the great work!
@@glenis83 me too! Born in 91 so I watched a lot of 80's and 90's movies when I was younger - film is definitely burned into my brain and represents a lot of feelings and ideas I can't quite express in words. Even down to old family photos being disposable camera film prints, those memories exist purely in film form now and I find the whole process of film, and on some level the way it looks, similar to memories and dreams, imperfect and rough around the edges. To me it's just very congruent to the way our minds process images and I think that's why it feels a little more magic - like something you can't quite grasp but feels really familiar! I totally agree that we live in an exciting time to have all these options with the tools we use to create, at affordable prices too! Thank you so much for your kind words and I'm very happy to hear my videos are igniting a spark in you!! That makes what I do worth it, so thank you! 😊
I think that’s spot on. Imperfect just like life. And sometimes just a total blur!
Wow, that shot at 13:19 got me. So fucking beautiful.
Puuuure gold as usual Rob! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much Luis, glad you enjoyed it!
Title: How to Emulate Film-Easily and Acurately-Color Grading with Dehancer
My mind: This a dem documentary
What a beautiful way to present a plugin....Bravo sir
Haha thank you so much!! I really do appreciate it and I'm glad you enjoyed it so much :)
This the best video I watched on dehancer. I saw the plugin when it was in beta but never really understood much what it does. Watch a couple of videos here n there but yours really showed how its woaw.
I recently sold my bmpcc og too and been missing the image a lot. New sensors images are so digital that everyone work looks the same :( and I hate to look like everyone!
Thank you, I appreciate it! :) and happy I could show you how it works! Dehancer goes beyond that original Blackmagic camera feeling as it actually feels like film - even with a newer higher resolution sensor. Love it!
Wow man, you really got me emotional with your footage and knowledge!! Here's hoping for a Black Friday discount! You're brilliant!
Awesome to hear my video had that effect on you, hopefully means I did something right haha! :) thank you so so much!!!
Great review! Looks really impressive, can’t wait to try it
Another great video Rob. Thanks
Thank you so much! Hope you found it useful in some way! 😃
Yo this is great. When you use the print film lut in resolve, my understanding is that they are made for Rec709 color and Cineon gamma, I saw that you transformed the color to blackmagic film and then added saturation.
I’m sure you have messed with this already, but I thought I would mention at least. The results with rec709 color in your output transform would mean you wouldn’t have to push the saturation, it should just look proper straight away!
Anddddd just like that it's in my cart and I'm checking out.
You won't be disappointed! :)
Amazing!
thanks for this video
This makes me forget about vintage lenses. Is time to try and emulate film with sharp lenses.
Love this! Amazing work man 👌
Thank you so much!! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Legend, great video
Dude! Amazing video. Thanks so much
Thank you so much Jacob, I appreciate it!
please Ellis the way you grade the video very fantastic i need the preset 🙏
Wow, this video was so good! Learned a ton, thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you so much! :)
Great video. I'm currently trialing the plugin. Where do I find the information about what each film stock is balanced for?
Very cool, Rob! I think you and I have very similar opinions on the original Blackmagic cameras (RIP to my original pocket) and are looking for specific characteristics... I'm def going to look into this for my next short that I'm finishing up this week! Again. love the pacing and vibe in your vids.
Thanks so much Jesse! Those cameras are still beautiful to this day! Oh damn what happened to the Pocket?! I absolutely recommend it, fantastic plugin all round. Thanks for your kind words man :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer didn’t have the port protector on and snapped the little HDMI connector loose. Thought I could just glue it in place, but it’s soldered directly to the board with microscopic little connections 😥 … I’m not that confident of a solderer.
@@jessesenko damn, I had an issue with my original BMCC just a few years ago and Blackmagic fixed it (for a fee, of course) so it might be worth giving them a go, providing they still have the appropriate parts! Although I'm not sure how much second hand Pockets are these days as it might cost a similar amount haha!
@@RobEllisCinematographer gonna re-set-up a classifieds alert for one. Will be cheaper than fixing it... I think. I think that cam will be "retro cool" soon haha... I had the original BMCC... was one of the first to buy, but went through 4 to get one that worked properly.
Great review, thank you!
I actually learned something:)
Glad to hear that! Thank you so much! :)
Drop a new video mate! We love your work over here in Nigeria
New video dropped! :) thank you so much!! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Way ahead of you mate, haha, post notifications on.
@@bhapampa haha I appreciate you turning them on! :) thank you!
Brilliant! I own this plugin. Could you do a quick tutorial on grading with Dehancer, maybe indoors and outdoors? FYI, I usually grade under wide gamut because of the insane dynamic range it gives me. And another important question: which is the best Kelvin settings for each scenario? I know outdoors is 5600. How about indoors during daylight, etc? Or should I do a quick white balance in post? Cheers
Thanks Lee! It's a great plugin right?! I try to upload topics that are little lengthier on my channel, but in any situation using Dehancer really, I would grade exposure in a similar way to how I did it on this video when we looked the Expand and Print options - depending on the mood of the shot of course, as crushing the black point could be used for a certain look. The correct way to balance for the film stock as shown in the video is to use a white balance matching that of the film stock you're using, regardless of the situation, as this replicates the film stock colours accurately. However, there isn't any reason you can't get creative and make new looks by choosing a different white balance that fits your vision for the scene - or if you've only used tungsten lighting and you want to use a daylight balanced film stock, you might want to select a white balance closer to 3200K, for example. Hope that helps :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Is there somewhere where I could see which Kelvin number works best for each film stock? **EDIT Oh, I see now. T is for tungsten which is K3200 and D is daylight K5500. Thanks!
@@leebrandt8597 That's the one! I instinctively balanced to 5600k in the video when it really should've been 5500k - and there's me talking about accuracy 🤣 no worries, happy to help!! 😀
Hi Rob. Is there any guide with film stock - white balance values? Thank you!
great vid , what is your color management settings?
Nice one Rob, just got this plugin. I'm gonna link this vid in the description of a new vid I'm uploading soon if that's OK. You know a shit-ton about this stuff and this video is a work of art. Well done.
Hey Hugh, sorry a bit of a slow reply here! Absolutely, feel free! I didn't know a huge amount before, but Dehancer's FAQ's taught me a lot! Extremely helpful stuff! Thank you so much!! :)
Hey Hugh. Can this be used for Lumix S1? I know you own one. What are the steps before using this plugin for S1 users.
what plugin did you use to get the gate shifting effect at 3:06? Been trying to find something for a while now.
Hi, can you recommend exporting settings for good grain? Cause I'd always export my weddings and event videos by h264 codec at 10.000 bitrate, but the grain looks really bad with that settings. So I need something, that my customers will be able to see on any device(I think h265 would be problematic) and it won't be tens of gigabytes... Maybe you also have some recommended settings to export for instagram. TIA!
If I shot the video in the Standard/regular profile (not log) ... what should my profile setting in Premiere Pro or DaVinci Resolve be set to? Thx!
Double check what profile your camera records to, but most cameras now go to their own flavour of Rec.709 :)
Do you recommend the 2.5k and the black magic micro cinema or the 4k pocket now that Dehancer is out.
Please explain how to adjust the weight balance in Dehancer relative to the film type.
i love this video. it confirms what my eyes have also noticed. so i have to ask, bmpcc4k vs 2.5k...picture quality difference in your opinion?
Dear Rob Ellis
if I have a Lumix S1H is that what I can use with Dehancer because I can't find it on the list of compatible cameras. moreover I would like you to explain to me how you did with the Lumix S5 because it is not on the list of compatible cameras on Dehancer either.
Another great video, Rob! This plugin looks amazing, I wish it was available for Premiere Pro.
Thank you, it is a fantastic plugin! Yeah that is a bit unfortunate, I'm not sure if there are any plans in the works for any different versions!
Not sure if Dehancer paid you to create this video, but WELL DONE. It feels much more like a documentary than a commercial to me. I was in doubt if I really needed to buy the plugin, but now I'll definitely add it to my tools.
I got Dehancer for free and I'm on their affiliate program in exchange for the review - but I didn't really have to put together something like this, it could have been a simple review - I'm just very interested in the topic and the plugin is fantastic so I felt like it definitely deserved a bit more!! I'm happy you enjoyed it!! 😊
Spherical aberrations or what you call bloom is not mainly caused by the coatings on the glass but by the lens design too. There are lenses that don’t have any coatings on the glass and are very sharp and have almost no spherical aberrations. And there’re lenses with modern coatings and lots of spherical aberrations.
Good stuff!! I referred to Dehancer's FAQs on their website for some of the info in the video, including bloom - might be worth emailing them and asking if they'll add that in! It's a fantastic resource and the extra info there would certainly be helpful I'm sure!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Have you heard of Spectra Film? It’s not out yet. It’s by an ILM VFX artist and based on the same principles as Steve Yedlin’s emulation is. There is a lot of info on the guy Instagram profile. His names Miguel Santana.
@@VariTimo I hadn't, but I just signed up for the newsletter after checking out some of the examples on his Instagram. I'm excited to see more! Appreciate the info, thank you! :)
What a great video
Thank you so much! :)
I'm sold. I have filmcovert nitrate and I just haven't loved it. It always felt like there was something missing.
I've always liked Filmconvert and have used it a fair amount for suitable work - but like you said, always felt like something was missing and it stopped me from using it as much as I would have liked to. I'm glad you're sold on Dehancer though, it really is bloody fantastic and I'm glad that came through on the video! Cheers man!
@@RobEllisCinematographer I would love to see your workflow of how this works into your color grading process as a whole. How’s that node tree look?
@@washbuns so far I've not done anything too complicated with it, mainly just graded with Dehancer as a final node and made little adjustments in nodes before if need be, along with using the 2383 emulation LUT as a final node as shown in the video! I'll definitely be using Dehancer as a base for some more complicated grades, although my node trees can be an absolute mess and no one needs to publicly see that haha 🤣
can't wait for the FCPX version of this
I read that they're expecting it to release before the end of 2021, so not long to wait 😁
Note to self:
useful tip for emulating 2383 film stock at 12:08
Great tutor
I see it's also just for DaVinci which I have, but always found the set up preferences so daunting for a novice like me. FCPX seems quite a lot simpler to use. I suppose I really should just find some good DaVinci tutorials and a ton of time to learn it.
I would highly recommend Davinci, just takes a little bit to get used to - I'm sure I still don't even know what half the program does haha!
The older Blackmagic Cameras used Fairchild sensors in which gave it that film-like look. I'm thinking BM turned from these sensor due to the rise in the very polished, clean and overly sharp look from more modern cameras like Sony and Panasonic. BM had to cater to the common user so I totally understand why. ARRI may have something to do with as well considering BM was releasing camera's with the same goal - digital cinema camera that rendered an image like film. RED made a huge deal about ProRes so I wouldn't be surprised if ARRi shot back at BM for potentially putting a huge dent in a market they dominate.
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I'm checking Dehancer out for sure. I wonder if there's anything like this but for emulating VHS more authentically than existing filters?
I can't recommend it enough! Resolve has some VHS emulation built in under OFX I believe, but whether or not it's very authentic I couldn't say - would be an interesting one to see done properly!
Hi Rob! Thank you for your efforts here! Can you please give me your thoughts on FilmConvert vs this? I currently own Nitrate and I'm considering getting this to upgrade
I think this really all depends on the camera you use and the settings. Standard/Natural profile, LOG or RAW?
@@captureinsidethesound Well, given for any graded project you would always shoot log. So are you saying Film Convert vs Dehancer is dependent on whether you shoot in REC709 or log? That doesnt seem right.
whats your workflow for this plugin if used in a color managed project?
Found it ! Is there a chart that says what white balance should be set for each film stock ?
For the motion picture stocks a D will dictate daylight (so 5500k or 5600k, I forget which exactly!) and T will dictate tungsten (so 3200k) - all of the other stocks are still film stocks and most of them I believe would be daylight. You can always double check the name of the film to see if its daylight or tungsten with a Google search 😁 edit: obviously you don't have to match them completely and can still use white balance creatively as we have the flexibility of digitally working with the video!
please Rob Ellis can i get your preset for doing my videos because i love it please
Amazing video!
Thanks so much David!
Great video, what microphone are you using to record your voiceover, the sound is so clear! Also do you do any post processing on the vocals? Thank you in advance
Thanks David! It's just a cheaper Neewer NW-700 condenser, I just use some noise reduction and tweak EQ a little if needed!
You should do a video on your workflow.
It wouldn't be very long! Haha! I'll keep that in mind though! :)
I truly love your content, and i think you're a really talented person ! thanks for the exciting video about this plugin. I would LOVE to see how you work with the plugin within davinci node tree, do you put it after the exposure and WB or at the last node of the project? how would i work with it if i buy it? Thank you.
Thank you so much! Dehancer is generally the final node in the tree, then any other adjustments can be made non-destructively underneath. But Dehancer also allows you change things like exposure, so it's a balance between the plugin and anything you may need to tweak before it!
Good job!
Thank you! :)
这个软件是我使用过的最带给我惊喜的！
真是太棒了！
Amazing video!!!!
Glad you liked it! 😁
Why is this on James Lee’s “BINGE ON NOX” playlist?
I have no idea, maybe James Lee has the answer haha
nice as always rob! btw, which shoulder pad are you using?
Thank you so much! It's the camera comfort cushion - www.alangordon.com/product/our-products/camera-comfort-cushion - much more comfortable and easy to balance than a pad that connects to the rig itself, also super convenient when you're switching from tripod to shoulder, you just take the camera off the tripod and whack it straight on your shoulder :)
Superb
Thanks Roger! :)
didnt know you had (used) the pocket 6k pro. Did you like it compared to the pana s5 for example?
The 6K Pro is my current setup! I am sorely missing the IBIS from the S5, but only for really specific situations. I love both of the cameras, but the Blackmagic has the advantage of BRAW which is great!
Great review. It is seriously slowing down my system though .. cannot have real time on the timeline ... RTX2070 + Cuda plugin 1080p... I wonder what went wrong
Thanks Yann! Yeah I believe they're still optimising it for Windows so it can be pretty laggy. I'm running an extremely old system so I'm very much used to working around lag so I've not been too bothered by it, as long as the grade comes last in the chain! Rendering is a different issue though, I definitely need to update my system for that haha.
@@RobEllisCinematographer I’ll try again with a MacBook Pro in a few weeks
I was just wondering, is it worth ditching the pro mist filters for dehancer's bloom?
I wouldn't ditch the pro mist filters, as every project is different - Dehancer's bloom is a representation of the way bloom occurs when film grain is distributed, you might want a super clean modern image with bloom, in which instance a pro mist filter might suit that scenario better without the extra post processing involved. Many tools can be used for different purposes and it's always best to have options!
Hey Rob, thank you so much for the video! How would you compare it to using nitrate and Juan Melaras Powergrade? I‘m using this at the moment (saw it on your blog if I remeber correctly) and am hesitant of the extra money for dehance will give me much better results?! Also, how are they different in terms of „easy to use“? thank you again!!
Nitrate is great, but Dehancer offers all the extra tools I demonstrated in the video which really sell the film look and feel. You can get a more modern look similar to the way I used Nitrate in that blog post using Dehancer, which is also in the video, but the team at Dehancer are also going to be implementing it into the plugin itself at some point soon! Very easy to use once you get used to it, it's just sliders really! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer thanks for the answer!!!
Brilliant Rob. Going to check this out! When it comes to film grain, do you have to work differently to consider UA-cam compression at all for these videos? Asking because the grain looks great here.
Thank you! I highly recommend it! So for this, I actually uploaded a 75GB 12 bit DNxHR file just to make sure the grain showed at 4K (it becomes murky at 1080, but that's just good old UA-cam) - however, I should think exporting that 12 bit DNxHR in 4K and using something like Handbrake to transcode to a high quality h264/h265 would have worked nicely too (albeit a little loss of quality in comparison). I'll check this on future uploads! I had to leave my computer running all night to upload that 75GB file haha so I'm not keen on doing that for every upload!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Oh wow, that's a big file! Thanks for the response!
are you ditched BMMCC already in favor of the S5, or did you keep BMMCC too?
I actually ditched the S5 in favour of the BMPCC6k Pro haha - but yes, I still have the BMMCC and the original BMCC 2.5k :) so many B's and M's and C's haha
@@RobEllisCinematographer haha nice to hear that you still have the good old Blackmagic cameras. :) However I am not familiar with the new models, I realized recently that BM discontinued the Micro cameras so I quickly bought a second unit just to be sure that I can still shoot with it for long
@@broaf I will have them for as long as they're functioning haha! I went for the 6K Pro because there's a little something in that sensor I didn't feel from the other newer line of BM cams, not quite sure what that something is! Yeah, it would be nice if BM still produced some of their older line of cameras, or even brought out an update or two, but I don't know the logistics involved to do that, it might just not be something they can do as a company! Just hope they will still fix the older cameras if any of mine break haha!
@@RobEllisCinematographer as far as I know, they told that chipsets are no longer in production therefore they cannot provide new units anymore... I am thinking the same in regard of using them as long as they are functioning. Hopefully BM will introduce a new model once with the Micro form factor as I really like this cube shape style and its size (in MFT format). Unfortunately there is no Fairchild sensor anymore on the market (and nothing similar) but hopefully BM can develop a similar look with their newer Color Science (especially if you found that 6K Pro has already has similar feel)
Do you get better results grading your footage first with Aces and then apply dehancer or can you edit Log footage using only Dehancer? I've different things.
You get slightly different results depending on your workflow - so it's entirely down to how you usually grade/how you want it to look :)
Would you recommend dehancer lite also. To achieve similar results.
I would ultimately recommend Pro, purely because you get all the emulation features - but with Lite you still get all the film stocks, colour, grain and bloom (and a couple other things I think), which are all still important features in making the look :)
Is there a workflow you recommend for someone who is proficient in Premiere and not so much in DR?
Most of the grading itself when using Dehancer is contained in the plugin, so it's pretty plug and play in regards to using it in Resolve - it's just a case of dragging Dehancer from the OFX menu into a node - but I recommend looking up some basic tutorials on how to use nodes in Resolve, as you may want to adjust some things like colour/contrast/exposure-wise outside of the plugin to fine tune things :) if you're proficient in Premiere it should feel pretty intuitive to work out, but then again, I know how it feels to switch, as I used Premiere a few months ago and I couldn't make head or tail of it! Haha 😅
Hey man just want to say I've binged a lot of your videos lately and I love your content but I have a question I'm trying to achieve this look on a Samsung note9 with my filmic pro app using a gimbal is this even possible to get this look I'm no expert I'm still learning Davinci
I've not had the chance to test Dehancer with phone footage yet, but I have seen someone else do this online and it looked great, but I can't for the life of me find the video! You can definitely get good results using it with phone footage though. I'll have to run some tests soon! Thank you for the kind words!
@@RobEllisCinematographer thank you for the response I'll try to keep tweaking the footage and see if I get the result I have a few arri lights Im borrowing from a friend. And of course man your channel deserves more subs it's helping a lot of people and it's inspiring. the community appreciates you for commenting back as well keep up the great work