Bought mine having watched just about every review, this video was one of the best I must admit, ultimately I’ve had the bike now for 2 years and cannot complain, it’s a very cool calm comfortable powerhouse of a bike without any drama compared to the 1k sports bikes, I’ve owned many of the latest 1ks and this to me is a multitool of a bike that can adapt from urban to touring to hitting the twistys aggressively very easily, simply a bike like no other, you just need to look past the performance specs so many are focused on, I can guaranteed if they released this and stated the BHP to be anywhere over 210+ you would never know, it’s all phycological and rarely used when the peak power is at the top end of the gearing. One of the greatest machines ever made.
Excellent review, I particularly liked the performance testing part with bruce Dunn. that 9.89 quarter mile time is a Awesome time for a bone stock bike , and also 0-60 under 3 seconds is very very impressive, Big Thumbs up to Hayabusa and Bennett's bike 👍👍👍❤️
@@peterblacksmith3817 little correction . Suzuki claimed 0-62mph in 3.2 seconds👍😊, but this bike did 0-60 in 2.69 Seconds, So definitely 0-62 in 2.8 seconds. 4 tenths of a second quicker than the claimed figure 👍
it's a perfect refresh. they kept it as bare-bones as possible for as long as possible.. but it was time to give it the luxury features its riders deserve. cruise control, traction control, and all the fancy data that comes with the new display is awesome. it still has the same shape and, thank god, the same engine.
@@peterblacksmith3817 There is nothing better than the Hayabusa engine on a streetbike. The low end torque is so ridiculous, and the engine has the perfect balance between low vibration, high RPM screaming revs, and super extreme torque. No other engine has the same perfect balance. The way the Hayabusa will slam off the rev limiter, like a 600cc bike, despite being 1340cc, is absolutely terrifying. The engine revs so violently, and yet it has such extreme torque. Not even Kawasaki with the ZX-14, with a 1440cc engine, could match the torque of the Hayabusa. The Haybusa has 24 titanium valves, a super light crankshaft, super hard nitride Nikasil cylinder bore liners, and dual staged fuel injections. To drive a Hayabusa, you'd swear it has forced induction. The fact that they used the same engine on the Gen 3, is a HUGE blessing.
They could have increased the stroke again, like they did on the Gen 2 bike. But the thing is, the Generation 2 Hayabusa already had a very long stroke engine. The stroke is 65mm (2.55 inches) which is WAY more than 600cc sportbike which is only (42mm) 1.72 inches. If you raise the stroke, you automatically create more vibration, and it increases piston speeds, which diminishes engine life.
So refreshing to see a decent launch report from someone who knows what they’re talking about. Slick job Si, as always, nice to see Bruce make a cameo too 👏👏👏
Absolutely bang on with the "it doesn't feel any different to the Gen 2 Busa through the entire rev range." Just returned the media bike a couple of days ago and that's exactly what I have said in my video too! There's absolutely no perceptible difference performance wise in this and Gen 2. Loads of respect for you, mate!
When I was a whipper snapper in the early 90s riding a TS50ER I used to read Performance Bikes and Simon Hargreaves was a staff writer. I loved his style of writing about bikes in PB and he’s just as good in front of the camera. Great stuff.
Best looking Busa ever produced...dont like the sport tourer category but Busa is such a legendary bike that every motorcyclist has a soft corner for this bike...
I really like it. Ive grown to like the hayabusa over the years. The gen 3 is the nicest looking for sure. Superb review as always. he needs to do more here. Simon is a superb journo.
Not that it is a priority when buying a ‘Busa but I am surprised that a Euro 5 compliant motorbike returns 15% less fuel economy than it’s previous version. Outstanding review and appreciate the level of detail and experience you share.
That 15% reduction is a good thing. It means they used fueling and ignition timing to get that monster of a motor into the country again. Map it and hold on.
It can also be that they’ve changed how they test fuel consumption. Before with cars aswell it was very easy to get low consumption to use as advertising. Like my volkswagen Passat, diesel, says it uses 4,5-5,0 liters per 100km. Real world it is closer to 6,0-6,5.
Much of the drop in fuel mileage is dependent on the testing. Some of the tests used to go by emissions per amount of fuel used so they could get away with a little higher emissions if it meant better fuel mileage. Other tests go by emissions per distance traveled so they end up losing fuel mileage trying to meet the emissions. And, there’s a much stricter emphasis on NOx emissions. One of the easiest ways to reduce NOx is to run it a little richer as it burns cooler. Which results in poor fuel mileage. I haven’t seen any motorcycles running an EGR system, but that would in theory allow them to run lean for fuel mileage while still reducing emissions.
Thank you Bruce Dunn for understanding that the true measure of a motorcycle is the entire package not just some peak numbers. I was getting really tired of the complaining in the last video about this bike considering everyone got what they wanted; emissions regulations ✅ All the fancy electronics on the market ✅ Let's not forget what the Busa is, it's a GSX, not a GSXR, so it's a sport touring bike developed to be the fastest bike for top speed. Since the top speed race war ended a long time ago, it's just a sport touring bike, and I would argue it has no equal if that's what you are looking for.
I agree - I focussed on the power thing in the last vid because it was the main story of the Gen3 up to the point we could ride it. It was impossible to overlook and as ultimate performance, in some riders' minds, is all about the numbers, it mattered. But when you're actually ON the bike, not so much 😁 (I'll moan about fuel range instead!)
@@writestuffmedia Thanks for the reply Simon. In general I think we focus on numbers way to much with cars and motorcycles. What we should be focusing on is; What do I need? How am I going to use it? What does the total package do for me? I guess we would have to stop trying to beat the neighbours and really think for once to do that though, and that might be way beyond most people's level of intellect.
@@ASH-kj1di couldn't agree more. as a current owner of the Gen 3, the one thing I'm most smitten by is the way it handles relative to it's size and weight. it just falls into a corner, and once it's in has this confidence inspiring planted feel. that the front end doesn't come up all the time is a good thing, I did not want to buy a 200 kg super-sport because they are twitchy and instead of enjoying the ride one tends to be focused on having both wheels sticking to the tarmac. The Hayabusa lets one use the power effortlessly and safely. the fact that they gave it the Stylema system is much appreciated, just wish it had a Brembo MC with span-ratio adjustment and steel braided lines.
OK so been on a gen 2 busa since 2011 And now a proud owner of a gen 3, this is a bike that's been very much improved. The work that's been done is for the better in every way
Really well done again, great riding feedback and then performance facts and figures - top stuff 👍 A litre sportsbike gets on your nerves in the end, great at the track though, only truly happy being used hard and risking a custodial sentence every ride...it gets to you in the end. Busas are great bikes to go places, a big muscular mate of a bike, just surf the smooth wave of torque, I could be tempted - some bikes you need to ride before drawing conclusions and this is one of them, had two could be tempted.
Great vid & review. Very fair & balanced. I really like it but I don't think Suzuki marketed it particularly well but it's still an absolute weapon. Can't wait to see what it's capable of with a full system & ECU reflash. Will be savage.
Nothing amazing there mate, front wheel was in the air a few times before he hit 120mph. What that means is that the speedo isn't showing bike's "accurate" acceleration. Instead speedometer's hand is skipping through the numbers on the dial jumping from 70mph to 100mph in split of a second. This bike doesn't accelerate that fast , it's front wheel in the air and speedo catching up when wheel contacts the ground.
@@vrossi2596 then how will you explain that jumping speedo perfectly matches bike's front dropping down. It does this a few times and we clearly see bike's front end slightly bouncing. Either way i don't understand what gets those dudes so excited as this bike's acceleration is way worse then zzr's which came out NEARLY A DECADE AGO.. Suzuki fucked up the Katana with joke 12l tank and now they fucked the Busa with it's inferior engine..
After watching an earlier video featuring Simon, I was expecting many Big Mac's to be consumed. Great bike. I rode one of the first demo bikes back in '99. Made my Fireblade seem slow. A bit expensive now. I'd still like one though.
Im glad to see that the legacy of the original busa lives on. I was worried that it would be completely reinvented or worse, discontinued and replaced with something boring. Busa's of old have always had polarising yet very distinctive looks. There's no mistaking one! Ive always liked their looks and the new one is the best yet. That silver and red colour scheme is stunning!
Outstanding review. Thank you. Been waiting for the other boot to drop. Armchair experts were panning it because of the change in power and the conservative approach to everything else. Didn't make sense Suzuki would bugger their iconic flagship. This, right here, is a very thoughtful, mature, usable keeper. The price hike, in my eyes, is justified in the updates and attention paid to myriad details and quality. One thing left out today was the effort put into even more reliability. Awesome. Just needs (well, I need...) riser bars, dropped pegs and (maybe) a higher bubble on the windscreen - and I'm gone for a long weekend!
Watched a video recently that used inflation data showing the gen3 was actually slightly cheaper than the gen2. Inflation (or the devaluing of a currencies purchasing power) needs to be factored in when comparing prices of goods across time. I have never owned a Busa but love this gen3; considering buying one.
I’m an ex Busa owner of 14+ years, I’m currently an H2 SXSE owner, I’m going to road test the new Busa soon, but I’ve got to say, is it going to be better than the H2....🤔 Soon find out, but if I’m going to part with my £16.5k it’s going to have to be amazing😬
I did too tbh. It *has* been a long time since I've ridden anything like that tho - felt well out of practice. Much as I like them, it's good to be back on something that isn't an adventure bike. Just need to find a way to get more fuel into it.
They kept the 1340 engine because it's realiable and there are so many performance aftermarket parts to upgrade it's down because of euro 5 but it wouldn't take much to get it up there
@@fs3994 550 new parts in that motor. Most are exactly what you would replace if you where to build it out. So yea like all new models the price went up.
Years ago I beat every GS 1000 with my Honda CBX 1000! 😎 Now 43 years later, I would like to walk up to Suzuki Hayabusa 21 and feel it float at my pace ... It has been ordered, it will be white, as white as my face when I fly it. You can count on that!
Great job as always Simon. You are one of the best motorcyclist journos mate. Ill not be buying one of these as I just bought a 1250gs bumblebee adventure but extremely well thought out video 👌🏻 hope you are well mate. Wish you would do more videos.
This is exactly how I would have designed a Busa, a sharper 08 look-alike front end and a subtle rear end. This bike rally needs to be de restricted on a dragstrip. 666th Like 👍
What a bike, be interesting to see if they sell and who buys them. I had a Kawasaki ZZR1100 in the early 90’s and that was the bench mark then. But I’m now in my 50’s and stick to speed limits on an Adventure bike and as much as I’m impressed by the Hayabusa, I can’t see me buying one.
I just bought the bike after carefully going through what my needs are & will be collecting it on Friday. I will be touring on Saturday 😜 What precautions must I take . When I’m done on Sunday I should be closer to its first service. With my older bikes I never thought twice, just service it a week before & ride 500km before my tour. Any advice most appreciated 🙏🏼
The fact that this bike is sucking more gas on the same engine tells me that they’ve opened up this bike much more. It’s probably running a little rich. Filter, velocity stacks, exhaust change and ecu hack, this bike is going to be a monster. People keep dismissing that they got this bike right under the bar to pass Euro5 restrictions and only loss 7hp and 2 increments on torque. Once the ecu is cracked Euro5 folks will know they’ve been outsmarted…
Liked review. Think Suzuki went in the right direct to meet Euro 5. Hayabusa is a great motorcycle. I had to add windscreen and handle bar risers to make it an enjoyable touring bike.
There's are quite a few sports bikes out the that cost alot more!!It's nice to know that Suzuki Hayabusa is still the king of the road and in time become a classic!!!😁👍
In time, ? It’s already a classic- the motorcycle is legendary Proud owner 2022 Busa Black/Copper The rear seat cowl even though you have to buy it separately is well worth it, really gives the bike a better look than the pillion seat
The old one was £11,899 but there were a lot of deals on the last ones at well under £11k (some as low as £10k) - most with 0% and other sweeteners thrown in. This is on 10+ year newer tyres and can only just match it while drinking like a fish. I like the higher bars, the restyle and I'm not against the electronics as long as they can be turned off but this is a let down after waiting 13 years.
@@lawrencebutler1664 I think that should be enough fuel. How much fuel is enough fuel anyways. As long as it gets to a 100 miles I think it should be fine. I do about 200 miles on a ride and dont really mind stopping for fuel to get a breather.
Hi, thanks for the interesting vlog, so I'm 70 next year and a previous SRAD + K1 owner, never tested a Hayabusa only sat on one, but did test a B-king, wasn't aware of any weighty bulk just it's warp speed, what's grabbing my attention in favourable way about the Gen 3 is it's looks, I see SRAD DNA combined with a K4 and the effect is very pleasing, I like the updated electronics/ closer bars but the previous ugly bits are gone, I think this has with a few weight saving and comfort tweaks it has the potential to be a knockout, have to speak to my mate who's 78 and rides a S1000RR. 👍👍👍
Cracking review Simon so open minded and honest but also picked up on some great positives like it’s not all about BHP ect spot on. This bike will be a collection for future especially when unfortunately electric takes over. Super review mate. Jimbo uk
Great video thank you for the education I recently bought 2022 brilliant white Hayabusa and watching your video I learned a lot information thank you and have a great holiday Tommy from New York
Thanks for the review, very informative. I’m my eyes, this looks like it will be a great and very smooth road bike with all the performance you could ever need (track days aside and all that..). Interesting proposition. 👍
If you look on akrapovic's site, they have dyno numbers on it. Surprisingly it is 5bhp up on the gen 2 and more powerful everywhere. Will need to do back to back dynos to get the final say.
Great review, but that 41mpg consumption got me thinking a few things.... I wonder where the equilibrium of burning more fuel for a cleaner burn and less emissions becomes more damaging to the environment than say having a bike that does 50mpg but pushes out 10% more NOx or unburned HC. For all that effort of drilling, pumping it out the ground, refining it, then moving it to a station. I dont know what the Gen 2 Hayabusa averaged, but it would be an ideal candidate to test as it uses exactly the same displacement as the Gen 3. If for example it achieved 50mpg, then that is nearly a 20% loss in fuel efficiency. If every internal combustion manufacturer were to follow this model, that would just move the problem of Carbon Dioxide/NOx/HC further up the "food chain" if you will. My second point/question. I would like to know if the fuel consumption could be altered with absolutely no hardware changes to the bike, changing only fuel mapping and ignition timing. Could we still achieve perfect fuelling, with no long term damage to the catalysts and only a minor increase in emissions ? Andy
I'm no fuelling expert, but you raise very valid, logical points Andy. I'm speculating but there may be something in this idea: an engine is basically a pump. Euro 5 effectively restricts the pump by introducing blockages in the exhaust - catalysts to convert bad stuff - NOX, CO and HCs - to water, air, CO2 etc. So your pump is 'cleaner', but it also has to work harder - ie use more fuel. So yes, you get a 'green contradiction' - you're using more fuel because your pump has to work harder, but the gas is cleaner as a result. Which is where making your pump bigger comes in - not only does it mean you can claw back some of your lost performance (because your pump is bigger), but your fuel consumption takes less of a hit because your pump doesn't have to work as hard. But yes, it just moves the problem elsewhere. I guess the environmental scientists decided the threat of NOX, CO and HCs was more pressing than the extra CO2. At the time. Good idea to back to back mpg tests with a Gen 2. And a Gen 1 would be interesting too. Could we still achieve perfect fuelling, with no long term damage to the catalysts and only a minor increase in emissions? Depends what you mean by 'minor'. Fuelling and mapping on most modern bikes is all about getting it through Euro regs, which focus on urban and cold start emissions (I think) and so it really only looks at engines at low rpm and small throttle openings. So that's where manufacturers get miserly on fuelling and run lots of ignition advance to help get them through Euro 5 - why many bikes end up with snatchy throttles. Euro 5 doesn't test at wide open throttle, so once you're past the Euro 5 test area, it's full steam ahead for most fuelling (again, I think!). And tbh, given the limitations of time and development budget, most manufacturers are pretty good at eking out the max from the fuel. What they really need are bigger tanks!
Great video Simon. Can’t wait to do a comparison between either of my 1999 Hayabusa’s and the new one. I was out today charging around on one of them wondering what it would be like to have all the modern electronics.if I owned a Gen 2 I think I would either trade it in or not bother with the Gen 3. But as a gen 1 fanatic I don’t think the new one would replace the experience of mine but would compliment it as an additional everyday bike, leaving my 99’s to semi retire and maybe appreciate.
Drop me a message mate, and we'll get a Gen2 involved and do something! Nip on Twitter and find me @SimonHBikes, send me a DM. Will make a good feature. Are your Gen1s stock?
After owning the bike for a few months and mostly on commuting duties through heavy traffic; i can honestly say that the busa is worth every penny and more, guys.
@@TrulyUniqueOne not anymore. since i am working remotely from office these days. but, would have fully utilize it as a commuter. its approximately 80% highway cruising for my commute.
Fully agree, it is a better bike and keeps all the positives of old bar the fuel situation. I personally would not pay that much but can see the benefits that are being provided with the overdue electronics. However, already having a Gen 2 and being practiced at riding it without electronic assistance, I will stick to what I have. That said, Suzuki always do a quality job and it looks the goods.
I'm really drawn to the Hayabusa and would live to get a gen 3. BUT.... im on an S1000XR now and I LOVE the riding position on it. How (un)comfortable is it compared to an adventure style bike? I know its a completely different bike but would you consider one over an adventure style bike???
I know both quite well, and riding position is much better (think natural, neutral) on the S1000XR. But, everything on the Busa is so smooth, particularly the engine, which plays a big role for comfort quality. If you don't have sensitive wrists, Hayabusa is a true GT. And once you're outside the city it's no longer a concern anyway.
Great review miss my ole gen 2 I traded for a gtr1400 awesome bike, but this has me thinking I want another busa saying that Suzuki Australia will cash in though
I've never ridden one, nor wanted to as they seem irrelevant to me in a world of speed cameras, but I like that they exist and Suzuki said in a previous video that they had taken lots of deposits. Great video, with lots of information. I wonder how many days before I see one on the road? I'm also keen to read if Si prefers this to the adventure bikes that he's been riding.
Honestly, it would be a great 2nd bike especially as a commuter as long as you don't care about the 15% more fuel consumption over the gen 2. Of course you'll have to go easy on the throttle and get used to the bike but im sure with the electronics you can reduce the power to the wheel. Honestly, all I would worry about is the weight of this bike. Other than that this bike is probably just as comfy as previous gens which basically in my opinion its quite comfortable compared to a cruiser.
fugg that's like my gen1, good grief it gets through the power before I can get back tot he shifter, all I did was dump half a bottle of Moly in it, every time I whack it in first tire spins up a bit then it grabs next thing I know its pinging off the rev limiter, been missing the shift a lot since then, I'll have to stay read to plunk it right away now, fugg that thing is fast now, cannot wait to run into a gen3 see how they stack up, i'll be sure to keep my eye on the clock and shift proper, be nice to go have a lil session with a 1, 2, and 3... be fun
There seems to be a common theme with euro5 reduced hp , torque or increased engine capacity to cover shortfall. With increased fuel consumption as well how Is that better for the environment?
Would have been nice to see all the other bikes 0-60 and on, times in a list say, to give a on paper time and speeds tests, but it was nice to see a honest review all the same. what would be fun to see would be a test of all the new bike models 1000cc and up, next to each other, doing a speed test on track or road some how, and you can only go the speed limits and no more, to give people a real world picture, as if there was speed camera's, gatso's and moble speed camera's pointed at you all the time.
No, you are correct, there is no perceptible difference in the mid and top range, not on the road anyway. It always felt more than normally aspirated and steered well despite being a bit heavy. Busas are what they are and they are good, regardless of the minor tweaks between models, although, the electronics on the newby are very nice.
Bennetts Social really has nailed the UA-cam reviews. Always fantastic reviews/tests from top quality journalists. Great work from all involved👍
Yep. Opening few seconds is a 'Busa doing a missile launch. No preamble whatsoever.
Very kind of you, thanks for taking the time to say so. Fiver's in the mail.
Cheers
@@bennettsbikesocial Pleasure, the whole team at Bennetts Social deserve it. Great work, keep well.👍
Bought mine having watched just about every review, this video was one of the best I must admit, ultimately I’ve had the bike now for 2 years and cannot complain, it’s a very cool calm comfortable powerhouse of a bike without any drama compared to the 1k sports bikes, I’ve owned many of the latest 1ks and this to me is a multitool of a bike that can adapt from urban to touring to hitting the twistys aggressively very easily, simply a bike like no other, you just need to look past the performance specs so many are focused on, I can guaranteed if they released this and stated the BHP to be anywhere over 210+ you would never know, it’s all phycological and rarely used when the peak power is at the top end of the gearing. One of the greatest machines ever made.
Excellent review, I particularly liked the performance testing part with bruce Dunn. that 9.89 quarter mile time is a Awesome time for a bone stock bike , and also 0-60 under 3 seconds is very very impressive, Big Thumbs up to Hayabusa and Bennett's bike 👍👍👍❤️
yeah I was impressed how he destroyed Suzuki's posted 3.2 second 0-60 time.
@@peterblacksmith3817 little correction . Suzuki claimed 0-62mph in 3.2 seconds👍😊, but this bike did 0-60 in 2.69 Seconds, So definitely 0-62 in 2.8 seconds. 4 tenths of a second quicker than the claimed figure 👍
The main thing is that this Hayabusa retains the old charm of the original Hayabusa, that is being unique.
it's a perfect refresh. they kept it as bare-bones as possible for as long as possible.. but it was time to give it the luxury features its riders deserve. cruise control, traction control, and all the fancy data that comes with the new display is awesome.
it still has the same shape and, thank god, the same engine.
@@peterblacksmith3817 There is nothing better than the Hayabusa engine on a streetbike. The low end torque is so ridiculous, and the engine has the perfect balance between low vibration, high RPM screaming revs, and super extreme torque. No other engine has the same perfect balance. The way the Hayabusa will slam off the rev limiter, like a 600cc bike, despite being 1340cc, is absolutely terrifying. The engine revs so violently, and yet it has such extreme torque. Not even Kawasaki with the ZX-14, with a 1440cc engine, could match the torque of the Hayabusa. The Haybusa has 24 titanium valves, a super light crankshaft, super hard nitride Nikasil cylinder bore liners, and dual staged fuel injections. To drive a Hayabusa, you'd swear it has forced induction. The fact that they used the same engine on the Gen 3, is a HUGE blessing.
They could have increased the stroke again, like they did on the Gen 2 bike. But the thing is, the Generation 2 Hayabusa already had a very long stroke engine. The stroke is 65mm (2.55 inches) which is WAY more than 600cc sportbike which is only (42mm) 1.72 inches. If you raise the stroke, you automatically create more vibration, and it increases piston speeds, which diminishes engine life.
So refreshing to see a decent launch report from someone who knows what they’re talking about. Slick job Si, as always, nice to see Bruce make a cameo too 👏👏👏
Thanks mate! 🤜 🤛
Absolutely bang on with the "it doesn't feel any different to the Gen 2 Busa through the entire rev range." Just returned the media bike a couple of days ago and that's exactly what I have said in my video too! There's absolutely no perceptible difference performance wise in this and Gen 2. Loads of respect for you, mate!
Finally....the Hayabusa test ride is here 😁👏👊
When I was a whipper snapper in the early 90s riding a TS50ER I used to read Performance Bikes and Simon Hargreaves was a staff writer. I loved his style of writing about bikes in PB and he’s just as good in front of the camera. Great stuff.
Cheers, nice one - I had a TS50ER once too. Abused it so much. Happy days, eh? 😉
Was it you that made BABIYOS while at PB Simon? Those really were the days and the best magazine ever!
@@perryburns6515 Ah, that was the great Simon Martin (no relation to Guy); someone much better qualified than me to build a bike :-)
Best looking Busa ever produced...dont like the sport tourer category but Busa is such a legendary bike that every motorcyclist has a soft corner for this bike...
The first gen did a world record breaking 194mph back in ‘99 before the manufactures gentlemen’s 300 km/h agreement.
I really like it. Ive grown to like the hayabusa over the years. The gen 3 is the nicest looking for sure. Superb review as always. he needs to do more here. Simon is a superb journo.
I really like the looks.
Not that it is a priority when buying a ‘Busa but I am surprised that a Euro 5 compliant motorbike returns 15% less fuel economy than it’s previous version. Outstanding review and appreciate the level of detail and experience you share.
That 15% reduction is a good thing. It means they used fueling and ignition timing to get that monster of a motor into the country again. Map it and hold on.
I was under the impression that Euro 5, if anything, makes it harder to get decent fuel economy.
My thoughts as well, less emisions but more fuel burnt seems like a contradiction?
It can also be that they’ve changed how they test fuel consumption. Before with cars aswell it was very easy to get low consumption to use as advertising. Like my volkswagen Passat, diesel, says it uses 4,5-5,0 liters per 100km. Real world it is closer to 6,0-6,5.
Much of the drop in fuel mileage is dependent on the testing. Some of the tests used to go by emissions per amount of fuel used so they could get away with a little higher emissions if it meant better fuel mileage. Other tests go by emissions per distance traveled so they end up losing fuel mileage trying to meet the emissions.
And, there’s a much stricter emphasis on NOx emissions. One of the easiest ways to reduce NOx is to run it a little richer as it burns cooler. Which results in poor fuel mileage. I haven’t seen any motorcycles running an EGR system, but that would in theory allow them to run lean for fuel mileage while still reducing emissions.
i love it when the speedo seems like stopped moving when it is actually the bike is wheelying
Thank you Bruce Dunn for understanding that the true measure of a motorcycle is the entire package not just some peak numbers.
I was getting really tired of the complaining in the last video about this bike considering everyone got what they wanted; emissions regulations ✅ All the fancy electronics on the market ✅
Let's not forget what the Busa is, it's a GSX, not a GSXR, so it's a sport touring bike developed to be the fastest bike for top speed.
Since the top speed race war ended a long time ago, it's just a sport touring bike, and I would argue it has no equal if that's what you are looking for.
I agree - I focussed on the power thing in the last vid because it was the main story of the Gen3 up to the point we could ride it. It was impossible to overlook and as ultimate performance, in some riders' minds, is all about the numbers, it mattered.
But when you're actually ON the bike, not so much 😁 (I'll moan about fuel range instead!)
@@writestuffmedia
Thanks for the reply Simon.
In general I think we focus on numbers way to much with cars and motorcycles.
What we should be focusing on is;
What do I need?
How am I going to use it?
What does the total package do for me?
I guess we would have to stop trying to beat the neighbours and really think for once to do that though, and that might be way beyond most people's level of intellect.
@@ASH-kj1di couldn't agree more. as a current owner of the Gen 3, the one thing I'm most smitten by is the way it handles relative to it's size and weight. it just falls into a corner, and once it's in has this confidence inspiring planted feel. that the front end doesn't come up all the time is a good thing, I did not want to buy a 200 kg super-sport because they are twitchy and instead of enjoying the ride one tends to be focused on having both wheels sticking to the tarmac. The Hayabusa lets one use the power effortlessly and safely. the fact that they gave it the Stylema system is much appreciated, just wish it had a Brembo MC with span-ratio adjustment and steel braided lines.
OK so been on a gen 2 busa since 2011
And now a proud owner of a gen 3, this is a bike that's been very much improved. The work that's been done is for the better in every way
Really well done again, great riding feedback and then performance facts and figures - top stuff 👍
A litre sportsbike gets on your nerves in the end, great at the track though, only truly happy being used hard and risking a custodial sentence every ride...it gets to you in the end. Busas are great bikes to go places, a big muscular mate of a bike, just surf the smooth wave of torque, I could be tempted - some bikes you need to ride before drawing conclusions and this is one of them, had two could be tempted.
Just excellent work as always Mr H.
Incredible machine and compared to 1000cc sport's bike prices it's even a bargain, absolutely love it ♥️
Huh? This bike is now more expensive than all of them minus the premium versions of all of them.
Well minus Ducati
In Australia it costs more than the z1 h2. That's not a bargain in my eyes.
Jan 2023. I just bought myself a brand new 2023my Hayabusa for £15,000. I reckon that's a bargain for what I am got....
Great vid & review. Very fair & balanced. I really like it but I don't think Suzuki marketed it particularly well but it's still an absolute weapon. Can't wait to see what it's capable of with a full system & ECU reflash. Will be savage.
200 + mph Easily 👍
@@wanderer54796 Indeed! A full titanium system & ECU reflash could potentially be -15kg & +15bhp. : )
@@ragerider6283 👍
And very likely improve cruising fuel economy
@@morley3810 Lol. Maybe, maybe not but will be fun either way.
You nailed it !!!!! Your review was just AMAZING!!! and the bike is just great as it was!!!
My god...! That 60-120 made me check the video twice to be sure!
It's a bit quick!
What's the 60-120 time? I couldn't find it in the video.
Nothing amazing there mate, front wheel was in the air a few times before he hit 120mph. What that means is that the speedo isn't showing bike's "accurate" acceleration. Instead speedometer's hand is skipping through the numbers on the dial jumping from 70mph to 100mph in split of a second. This bike doesn't accelerate that fast , it's front wheel in the air and speedo catching up when wheel contacts the ground.
@@Adikxx Speed could be taken from the gearbox , i know my Honda is..and makes no difference to the front wheel on the ground or not.👍
@@vrossi2596 then how will you explain that jumping speedo perfectly matches bike's front dropping down. It does this a few times and we clearly see bike's front end slightly bouncing.
Either way i don't understand what gets those dudes so excited as this bike's acceleration is way worse then zzr's which came out NEARLY A DECADE AGO..
Suzuki fucked up the Katana with joke 12l tank and now they fucked the Busa with it's inferior engine..
A great starter bike I see
Stabilisers not included 🤣
just passed my mod 2, got one on order
A busa is no starter bike😂
By any chance, did some bald headed dude tell you that?
@@Masse24796 Said dude also suggested that it's a grand idea to shove in a turbocharger into said starter bike.
After watching an earlier video featuring Simon, I was expecting many Big Mac's to be consumed. Great bike. I rode one of the first demo bikes back in '99. Made my Fireblade seem slow. A bit expensive now. I'd still like one though.
Im glad to see that the legacy of the original busa lives on. I was worried that it would be completely reinvented or worse, discontinued and replaced with something boring.
Busa's of old have always had polarising yet very distinctive looks. There's no mistaking one! Ive always liked their looks and the new one is the best yet. That silver and red colour scheme is stunning!
Outstanding review. Thank you. Been waiting for the other boot to drop. Armchair experts were panning it because of the change in power and the conservative approach to everything else. Didn't make sense Suzuki would bugger their iconic flagship. This, right here, is a very thoughtful, mature, usable keeper. The price hike, in my eyes, is justified in the updates and attention paid to myriad details and quality. One thing left out today was the effort put into even more reliability. Awesome. Just needs (well, I need...) riser bars, dropped pegs and (maybe) a higher bubble on the windscreen - and I'm gone for a long weekend!
Watched a video recently that used inflation data showing the gen3 was actually slightly cheaper than the gen2. Inflation (or the devaluing of a currencies purchasing power) needs to be factored in when comparing prices of goods across time. I have never owned a Busa but love this gen3; considering buying one.
Great review, wont change my 2014 ZZR1400 though, only thing I'm jealous about is the cruise control
Best review!! So lovely bike!!
Greetings from Italy (B-King proud owner!)
Let’s test the big boys zx14 , h2 and the hayabusa and have some fun !
That's the plan!
Hayabusa 3rd for sure.
I’m an ex Busa owner of 14+ years, I’m currently an H2 SXSE owner, I’m going to road test the new Busa soon, but I’ve got to say, is it going to be better than the H2....🤔
Soon find out, but if I’m going to part with my £16.5k it’s going to have to be amazing😬
I knew you'd like it despite the skeptical review on release, I had said ride it before judging 😉 the perfect evolution of an icon
I did too tbh. It *has* been a long time since I've ridden anything like that tho - felt well out of practice. Much as I like them, it's good to be back on something that isn't an adventure bike. Just need to find a way to get more fuel into it.
@@writestuffmedia brilliant review regardless, any chance we could swap jobs, im jealous of yours 🤣
@@Rayk76 you would've been welcome to it this morning at 4.30am when I was finishing the edit on this video 🤣
@@writestuffmedia im too old for those early hour finishes 😴 🤣
It’s that 60-100 performance. It was almost instantaneous. I couldn’t even see the 40-60 sprint. That’s where you need it on the road.
Fantastic video,what a bike.
Fuelling sounds like my 1250 bandit 138 miles fuel starts flashing.
Love the Hyabusa wish I could get one will have to ask my wife again 🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍🏍
What a bike, want one now ..... great video
They kept the 1340 engine because it's realiable and there are so many performance aftermarket parts to upgrade it's down because of euro 5 but it wouldn't take much to get it up there
So add more money to a bike that cost 30% more than previous gen with basically same power plant.
@@fs3994 550 new parts in that motor. Most are exactly what you would replace if you where to build it out. So yea like all new models the price went up.
@@moorepower13 I guess busa fans not gonna admit disappointment In reveal.
Years ago I beat every GS 1000 with my Honda CBX 1000! 😎 Now 43 years later, I would like to walk up to Suzuki Hayabusa 21 and feel it float at my pace ... It has been ordered, it will be white, as white as my face when I fly it. You can count on that!
Great job as always Simon. You are one of the best motorcyclist journos mate. Ill not be buying one of these as I just bought a 1250gs bumblebee adventure but extremely well thought out video 👌🏻 hope you are well mate. Wish you would do more videos.
Thanks, and enjoy the GS!
This is exactly how I would have designed a Busa, a sharper 08 look-alike front end and a subtle rear end. This bike rally needs to be de restricted on a dragstrip.
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That was a perfect launch!
Great bike....after a sports tourer....but is it as good or better than a H2 SX SE?
Honest reviews always appreciated 👏🏽
What a bike, be interesting to see if they sell and who buys them. I had a Kawasaki ZZR1100 in the early 90’s and that was the bench mark then. But I’m now in my 50’s and stick to speed limits on an Adventure bike and as much as I’m impressed by the Hayabusa, I can’t see me buying one.
I just bought the bike after carefully going through what my needs are & will be collecting it on Friday. I will be touring on Saturday 😜 What precautions must I take . When I’m done on Sunday I should be closer to its first service. With my older bikes I never thought twice, just service it a week before & ride 500km before my tour.
Any advice most appreciated 🙏🏼
Jeeze that thing accelerates!
9.89! Phew!
The fact that this bike is sucking more gas on the same engine tells me that they’ve opened up this bike much more. It’s probably running a little rich. Filter, velocity stacks, exhaust change and ecu hack, this bike is going to be a monster. People keep dismissing that they got this bike right under the bar to pass Euro5 restrictions and only loss 7hp and 2 increments on torque. Once the ecu is cracked Euro5 folks will know they’ve been outsmarted…
135 miles to the fuel light coming on is absolutely fine.
Can’t wait, bring it on!! 💪🏻👍🏻
Great review, thanks. Nice to see it rides well one handed!
Yes, I noticed that afterwards too 😳 When I was editing it I kept thinking "Put your bloody hands back on the bars!"
I LOVE HAYABUSA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Love the "hello Mum" sneaky bit!!🤣🤣
Hayabusa 1st gen. was my first love...
Saw the hello mum comment hidden in the technical specs....😂😂😂
What a machine!!!
Simon is the best in the business!
Liked review. Think Suzuki went in the right direct to meet Euro 5. Hayabusa is a great motorcycle. I had to add windscreen and handle bar risers to make it an enjoyable touring bike.
Great review guys, nice work 🙌🏻
There's are quite a few sports bikes out the that cost alot more!!It's nice to know that Suzuki Hayabusa is still the king of the road and in time become a classic!!!😁👍
In time, ? It’s already a classic- the motorcycle is legendary
Proud owner 2022 Busa Black/Copper
The rear seat cowl even though you have to buy it separately is well worth it, really gives the bike a better look than the pillion seat
The old one was £11,899 but there were a lot of deals on the last ones at well under £11k (some as low as £10k) - most with 0% and other sweeteners thrown in.
This is on 10+ year newer tyres and can only just match it while drinking like a fish.
I like the higher bars, the restyle and I'm not against the electronics as long as they can be turned off but this is a let down after waiting 13 years.
After this dissapointing gen 3 release I've come to the conclusion I'll be buying a zx14.
Thanks for your great review.
but the looks of the Busa!!!! so much better imo
Great sensible test and review so good to see! I have a Gen II and I am impressed however I love my bike and won’t be “updating”
Thanks again 👍
Excellent review lads!
I ride a Gen 1, and all my videos on my channel are on it carving the twisties. Can imagine how the gen 3 will perform with its electronic package.
I think it will handle well. but my concern is fuel. I love twisties as well. but there's not a lot of fuel stops.
@@lawrencebutler1664 I think that should be enough fuel. How much fuel is enough fuel anyways. As long as it gets to a 100 miles I think it should be fine. I do about 200 miles on a ride and dont really mind stopping for fuel to get a breather.
Hi, thanks for the interesting vlog, so I'm 70 next year and a previous SRAD + K1 owner, never tested a Hayabusa only sat on one, but did test a B-king, wasn't aware of any weighty bulk just it's warp speed, what's grabbing my attention in favourable way about the Gen 3 is it's looks, I see SRAD DNA combined with a K4 and the effect is very pleasing, I like the updated electronics/ closer bars but the previous ugly bits are gone, I think this has with a few weight saving and comfort tweaks it has the potential to be a knockout, have to speak to my mate who's 78 and rides a S1000RR. 👍👍👍
Ooh I've been waiting for someone to have the key to this beast.
Cracking review Simon so open minded and honest but also picked up on some great positives like it’s not all about BHP ect spot on. This bike will be a collection for future especially when unfortunately electric takes over. Super review mate. Jimbo uk
Great video thank you for the education I recently bought 2022 brilliant white Hayabusa and watching your video I learned a lot information thank you and have a great holiday Tommy from New York
Great video, this is the kind of stuff we need in place of new Top Gear :D
Pork pies should be available at Melton Mowbray, although I guess at Salzburg there's some local delicacy I'm too ignorant to know about !
Great review. Loved the 'hello mum' too 😂
Waiting for speed triple 1200rs road test
Me too !
Not long now, we'll be riding it in a couple of weeks.
Thanks for the review, very informative. I’m my eyes, this looks like it will be a great and very smooth road bike with all the performance you could ever need (track days aside and all that..). Interesting proposition. 👍
Meant in my eyes..! Whoops
If you look on akrapovic's site, they have dyno numbers on it. Surprisingly it is 5bhp up on the gen 2 and more powerful everywhere. Will need to do back to back dynos to get the final say.
I'm assuming Suzuki have really gone to town on the aeros too.
Analogue clocks.
Praise the Lord.
There is a God.
Jesus i hate TFT/digital dashes with a vengeance.
Purchased this bike recently ,( owned 2 gen 1 bikes) i think suzuki knocked it out of the park,great bike.
It looks nicer than my Gen 1. But I will keep mine for now.
Great review, but that 41mpg consumption got me thinking a few things....
I wonder where the equilibrium of burning more fuel for a cleaner burn and less emissions becomes more damaging to the environment than say having a bike that does 50mpg but pushes out 10% more NOx or unburned HC.
For all that effort of drilling, pumping it out the ground, refining it, then moving it to a station.
I dont know what the Gen 2 Hayabusa averaged, but it would be an ideal candidate to test as it uses exactly the same displacement as the Gen 3. If for example it achieved 50mpg, then that is nearly a 20% loss in fuel efficiency. If every internal combustion manufacturer were to follow this model, that would just move the problem of Carbon Dioxide/NOx/HC further up the "food chain" if you will.
My second point/question. I would like to know if the fuel consumption could be altered with absolutely no hardware changes to the bike, changing only fuel mapping and ignition timing. Could we still achieve perfect fuelling, with no long term damage to the catalysts and only a minor increase in emissions ?
Andy
I'm no fuelling expert, but you raise very valid, logical points Andy. I'm speculating but there may be something in this idea: an engine is basically a pump. Euro 5 effectively restricts the pump by introducing blockages in the exhaust - catalysts to convert bad stuff - NOX, CO and HCs - to water, air, CO2 etc. So your pump is 'cleaner', but it also has to work harder - ie use more fuel. So yes, you get a 'green contradiction' - you're using more fuel because your pump has to work harder, but the gas is cleaner as a result.
Which is where making your pump bigger comes in - not only does it mean you can claw back some of your lost performance (because your pump is bigger), but your fuel consumption takes less of a hit because your pump doesn't have to work as hard.
But yes, it just moves the problem elsewhere. I guess the environmental scientists decided the threat of NOX, CO and HCs was more pressing than the extra CO2. At the time.
Good idea to back to back mpg tests with a Gen 2. And a Gen 1 would be interesting too.
Could we still achieve perfect fuelling, with no long term damage to the catalysts and only a minor increase in emissions? Depends what you mean by 'minor'. Fuelling and mapping on most modern bikes is all about getting it through Euro regs, which focus on urban and cold start emissions (I think) and so it really only looks at engines at low rpm and small throttle openings. So that's where manufacturers get miserly on fuelling and run lots of ignition advance to help get them through Euro 5 - why many bikes end up with snatchy throttles. Euro 5 doesn't test at wide open throttle, so once you're past the Euro 5 test area, it's full steam ahead for most fuelling (again, I think!). And tbh, given the limitations of time and development budget, most manufacturers are pretty good at eking out the max from the fuel. What they really need are bigger tanks!
Great video Simon. Can’t wait to do a comparison between either of my 1999 Hayabusa’s and the new one. I was out today charging around on one of them wondering what it would be like to have all the modern electronics.if I owned a Gen 2 I think I would either trade it in or not bother with the Gen 3. But as a gen 1 fanatic I don’t think the new one would replace the experience of mine but would compliment it as an additional everyday bike, leaving my 99’s to semi retire and maybe appreciate.
Drop me a message mate, and we'll get a Gen2 involved and do something! Nip on Twitter and find me @SimonHBikes, send me a DM. Will make a good feature. Are your Gen1s stock?
Props to the cool music and intro. The Editor likes Synthwave like I do.
If I could, I'd use The Midnight for everything 😉
After owning the bike for a few months and mostly on commuting duties through heavy traffic; i can honestly say that the busa is worth every penny and more, guys.
Do you use yours everyday? I'm contemplating getting one for just that reason
@@TrulyUniqueOne not anymore. since i am working remotely from office these days. but, would have fully utilize it as a commuter. its approximately 80% highway cruising for my commute.
Great video.
But about the specs and performance, we don't understand about bananas, please do it in metrics, as all should be. :)
I think it's the best looking busa !
Not sure were it stands in value for money! which is Suzuki's strong point, still being made in japan
Fully agree, it is a better bike and keeps all the positives of old bar the fuel situation. I personally would not pay that much but can see the benefits that are being provided with the overdue electronics. However, already having a Gen 2 and being practiced at riding it without electronic assistance, I will stick to what I have. That said, Suzuki always do a quality job and it looks the goods.
The grandmaster of the road
I'm really drawn to the Hayabusa and would live to get a gen 3. BUT.... im on an S1000XR now and I LOVE the riding position on it. How (un)comfortable is it compared to an adventure style bike? I know its a completely different bike but would you consider one over an adventure style bike???
Bonkers question
@@vn3801 I bought a busa 😀😀😀😀 haven't even ridden one but who cares!!!
I know both quite well, and riding position is much better (think natural, neutral) on the S1000XR. But, everything on the Busa is so smooth, particularly the engine, which plays a big role for comfort quality.
If you don't have sensitive wrists, Hayabusa is a true GT. And once you're outside the city it's no longer a concern anyway.
Great review miss my ole gen 2 I traded for a gtr1400 awesome bike, but this has me thinking I want another busa saying that Suzuki Australia will cash in though
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW AWESOME AMAZING FANTASTIC SUPERB TOP MAGICAL I LOVE HAYABUSA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
"you can't buy a ZZR now"
Yes you can. Lots for sale on Autotrader Bikes.
I've never ridden one, nor wanted to as they seem irrelevant to me in a world of speed cameras, but I like that they exist and Suzuki said in a previous video that they had taken lots of deposits. Great video, with lots of information. I wonder how many days before I see one on the road? I'm also keen to read if Si prefers this to the adventure bikes that he's been riding.
Speed camera catch 125cc scooters, stop making boring comments
Great video:) Would it make sense to buy a Busa as a 2nd bike after riding scooters for 15 years and 150cc single cylinder bike for 5 years?
Honestly, it would be a great 2nd bike especially as a commuter as long as you don't care about the 15% more fuel consumption over the gen 2. Of course you'll have to go easy on the throttle and get used to the bike but im sure with the electronics you can reduce the power to the wheel. Honestly, all I would worry about is the weight of this bike. Other than that this bike is probably just as comfy as previous gens which basically in my opinion its quite comfortable compared to a cruiser.
fugg that's like my gen1, good grief it gets through the power before I can get back tot he shifter, all I did was dump half a bottle of Moly in it, every time I whack it in first tire spins up a bit then it grabs next thing I know its pinging off the rev limiter, been missing the shift a lot since then, I'll have to stay read to plunk it right away now, fugg that thing is fast now, cannot wait to run into a gen3 see how they stack up, i'll be sure to keep my eye on the clock and shift proper, be nice to go have a lil session with a 1, 2, and 3... be fun
There seems to be a common theme with euro5 reduced hp , torque or increased engine capacity to cover shortfall. With increased fuel consumption as well how Is that better for the environment?
Euro regulations is about money in the governments pocket and not the environment.
Would have been nice to see all the other bikes 0-60 and on, times in a list say, to give a on paper time and speeds tests, but it was nice to see a honest review all the same. what would be fun to see would be a test of all the new bike models 1000cc and up, next to each other, doing a speed test on track or road some how, and you can only go the speed limits and no more, to give people a real world picture, as if there was speed camera's, gatso's and moble speed camera's pointed at you all the time.
The bike is beautiful
Hayabusa Dominate Another 10year.....
Wish Upload A H2r And H2 Review......
Great review never road one looks stunning in this gen 3 version if it’s supposed to be a continental crosser why 20 Ltr tank
An obsessive soul somewhere will have already torn one down with a view to turbocharging it and getting 350 unusable bhp out of it.
I do hope so 😁
No, you are correct, there is no perceptible difference in the mid and top range, not on the road anyway. It always felt more than normally aspirated and steered well despite being a bit heavy. Busas are what they are and they are good, regardless of the minor tweaks between models, although, the electronics on the newby are very nice.
Good review thanks