Thank you for sharing .... I recently purchased a 'rivnut' or 'nutsert' crimping tool, along with a couple of assortment kits of rivnuts .... Then, I heard or read of 'plus nuts', which I haven't yet purchased to keep on hand .... Then lo and behold, yet another one popped up, this one named 'jack nuts' ..... And then a few minutes ago, I stumbled on another priduct I wasnt aware of called 'well nuts'. Needless to say, they all seem to have useful purposes. I do see how these well nuts can actually be the only practical item to use whenever a watertight fastener is needed. I had wondered how to install an expandable nut, when it's imperative to seal out moisture etc. I had thought about using RTV sealants, putting it into the hole prior to inserting the fastener. Without ever having used a well nut, I'm thinking this is one amazing product! Thank you again for posting!
This is freaking awesome!! Just found out about them today, because I plan to install a body kit on my car (unfortunately I’m not much of a boat person). I was going to originally use RivNuts but these are so much better for my application. 👍👌👌
Literally same, any update? Did it go well? I'm looking to install my maxton design kits in a few weeks from now, using these as well. Any tips would be appreciated
Thanks! There are two on the back of my sailboat. Two well nuts and two ss wood screws that hold the motor mount on. I did not know what to call them until your video.
Short and simple. I'm actually mounting something to my Jeep and it came with a well nut option but the problem is they send you the well nuts already threaded together a little bit but they're threaded opposite of how you actually install them. That's why I was confused. I appreciate your video
ACK used well nuts to attach the the bar for the Hobie sidekicks. They said not to lift the kayak by the bar. Hobie suggested to tighten by hand after starting the well nut with a drill. It's been five years, and they are still tight. I've encountered a couple of good sized waves.
Would well nuts hold the weight for smart tabs on my transom; the smart tabs have a 20lb actuator. I have a false floor in my RIB and can't get to the other side of the transom for the install.
Great vid, Steve. When I first started fitting out my kayak I knew well-nuts would be perfect in many applications. Watched a few vids where guys were using silicone sealant with their well-nuts. My question was why? The well-nut doesn’t need it. Besides...I don’t think much sticks to HDPE2.
@@KayakhacksFishing thanks. I'm actually here to look at how they should be used as my motorbike windscreen is held on with them and the previous owner had put the wellnut through both the screen and the substrate so it wasn't long enough to actually grab. Verily helpful video. Thanks.
When you can't see the other side, how do you know when the rubber is fully compressed, so you don't overtighten? I'm considering using these to mount a bracket to a carbon fiber sailboat mast. How much longer than the thickness of the material they are mounted in should they be? Thanks!
To figure out the length of the screw, add the thickness of the material, the length of the rubber and the thickness of whatever you are attaching. To that, I would had at least 1/4 inch. No need to use a lot of force. Once the screw is in firmly, you are good to go.
I had the lower wellnuts pull out of my windshield on my Suzuki Burgman. Could it be that I just didnt have them tight enough?. They looked tight. It happend while I was riding. Fortunately, I didn't lose the windshield because the top ones held, but I drove home at 20mph. Any advise? and yes they were OEM.
That is odd. Check two things - is the screw long enough and are you tightening it all the way. You can check to see if the flare happens by just holding it and screwing it. If it does not flare, then it is defective.
What is the easiest way to determine the thickness of the material of a SOT kayak with no other access to the inside aside from the drain plug at the back? Do you think it's a safe bet that it's 5mm or less? The 20mm length on Amazon says grip range of .5mm to 5mm but the 25mm length starts at a whopping 8mm... I used trifold rivets on my sit-in kayak but I'm convinced well nuts are the way to go for a SOT.
You can send a note to the manufacturer customer support and ask. Another option is to open a hatch - there will be an edge there and you can measure directly.
Sadly there is no hatch on a Pelican Sentinel 100x Angler edition. The only access whatsoever to the interior of the hull is the half inch drain hole and I suspect the thickness isn't uniform. I hadn't considered emailing Pelican about this particular issue and think that might be the way to go. I appreciate the tip!
Great info! I’m looking to remove the geartrack that came with my kayak and replace with a different, longer type. Can I re-install using the original screwed holes if I use a well nut?
I just ordered a pack of 12 of the correct size I need and looks like they work similar to the nuts I inserted in the frame of my old 1991 wrangler! But my concern is , if you can pop them out! Will they work for installing my kayak seat and hold
@@KayakhacksFishing I try that but they won’t fit they like the same size thank u for responding bk to me I am going to see if I can put a 4 inch drybox hatch in the middle that way I could put some locknuts and bolts on it
A little off topic, but I am thinking this could also be used for mounting things to the top of an RV. We already know the thickness of the plywood under the rubber rolled roof. This would seal from the back of the wood, however, we would also need to seal from the front of the wood, are there special screws or washers or sealant we could/should consider to water seal both sides of the hole we are creating?
For boats, people use silicone marine sealant to make certain there are no leaks. You could give it a try, but I am not competent to advice on RVs. Here is what boaters use - amzn.to/3p7g6ct
@@KayakhacksFishing thank you. While an RV doesn’t need to float, they are made with really thin plywood and any water that can get in will rot the RV and then is very expensive to repair. You are right on. There are a few sealants just like that which we can use. Wasn’t sure if this was the same for boats. Or if the well nut somehow sealed both sides. Still considering this as one option.
@@KimberlyCoxe One trick we used with balsa cored decks (same issue) is that we drill the hole a bit wide and dig out the core. We then tape the bottom, fill it with epoxy, let it harden and redrill. Now, if whatever we insert (like a screw) leaks the leak does not get to the wood. You could do something similar by not drilling all the way through the plywood.
If you're using a well nut in an area where the screw or bolt extends down into the cockpit of your kayak, should you cut off the extending part? I'm guessing that if the well nut is reusable, that a new screw could be purchased if you need to recycle it.
I'm with Daniel. It looks like well nuts are not very common. HD and Lowe's carry 2 or 3 different sizes only and have a few in stock of each at my local stores.
Please do a hack on how to fix a hole you drilled. Both when you can and when you can't reach the inside of your kayak. Will epoxy work or that might warp the material around it?
Amazon has all sorts, but boy, the reviews are all over the place. Complaints of pulling out, recommending the wrong-size drill bits, etc. Seems to me the problems would mostly be using a too-large drill bit.
Exactly. When I install these, I compare them to my drill bits and pick the next size smaller. I use a little soap to squeeze them in. If that does not work, I move up a size. Better tight!
This is a fantastic video. Short, to the point, and extremely informative and illustrative. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I couldn't understand how they would hold. Your demonstration was perfect!
Great video, just what i needed to finish my project
Glad I could help!
Thank you for sharing .... I recently purchased a 'rivnut' or 'nutsert' crimping tool, along with a couple of assortment kits of rivnuts .... Then, I heard or read of 'plus nuts', which I haven't yet purchased to keep on hand .... Then lo and behold, yet another one popped up, this one named 'jack nuts' ..... And then a few minutes ago, I stumbled on another priduct I wasnt aware of called 'well nuts'. Needless to say, they all seem to have useful purposes. I do see how these well nuts can actually be the only practical item to use whenever a watertight fastener is needed. I had wondered how to install an expandable nut, when it's imperative to seal out moisture etc. I had thought about using RTV sealants, putting it into the hole prior to inserting the fastener. Without ever having used a well nut, I'm thinking this is one amazing product! Thank you again for posting!
Thank you for educating me on all the different types!
Damnit Bobby I was confused about well nuts, kayaks and kayak accessories but this helped. Thank you
Thanks a lot for the short and to the point video!!! Greatly appreciated! Greetings from France!
Glad it was helpful! Bonjour!
Direct to the point instructional video.. thank you!
You bet!
Thanks a lot! very useful and clear information
I'm glad it was helpful!
This is freaking awesome!!
Just found out about them today, because I plan to install a body kit on my car (unfortunately I’m not much of a boat person). I was going to originally use RivNuts but these are so much better for my application. 👍👌👌
Literally same, any update? Did it go well? I'm looking to install my maxton design kits in a few weeks from now, using these as well. Any tips would be appreciated
Thank you, perfect easy explanation
Glad it helped!
Fantastic video! Thank you very much!
Glad it helped!
excellent video; concise and informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks! There are two on the back of my sailboat. Two well nuts and two ss wood screws that hold the motor mount on. I did not know what to call them until your video.
Thanks,, I will using well nuts on my kayak anchor install.
Short and simple. I'm actually mounting something to my Jeep and it came with a well nut option but the problem is they send you the well nuts already threaded together a little bit but they're threaded opposite of how you actually install them. That's why I was confused. I appreciate your video
Awesome Job!! Well Done!!
Thanks!
ACK used well nuts to attach the the bar for the Hobie sidekicks. They said not to lift the kayak by the bar. Hobie suggested to tighten by hand after starting the well nut with a drill. It's been five years, and they are still tight. I've encountered a couple of good sized waves.
Thank you kind sir. Just the info I needed.
Glad to help
Thanks for the information
My pleasure
Thank you. I've been considering rivets but this might be a better option.
Glad I could help
Thanks for all your help
Well spoken, thanks for the demo.
Would well nuts hold the weight for smart tabs on my transom; the smart tabs have a 20lb actuator. I have a false floor in my RIB and can't get to the other side of the transom for the install.
I think jack nuts would be better. I am testing jack nuts vs well nuts now. It all depends on how much force is applied to the connector.
Excellent, thank you very much
You are welcome!
Thank you
Good video, but would have liked to seen a close up of weld nut . attach, Handles , track tubing, one more thing to put on the hunt list👍
Will do!
Always with good info
Great vid, Steve. When I first started fitting out my kayak I knew well-nuts would be perfect in many applications. Watched a few vids where guys were using silicone sealant with their well-nuts. My question was why? The well-nut doesn’t need it. Besides...I don’t think much sticks to HDPE2.
Right. The real question is how much stress a well nut can take. I need to look at that.
I think there’d be enough rubber not to tear easily. Pretty sure the plastic on thinner hulls would tear before the well-nut failed?
@@stewartmainville303 maybe add a stainless steel fender washer as a backer, if the hole is accessible from the inside?
How do you know how thick the material your kayak is made out of ?
You can look at the edge around any of the storage ports. It should be representative of the overall thickness
Presumably, you could repair the hole by just using a washer and doing the wellnut up against that?
I think that would work. But, it is easy enough to use heat. In an emergency, you could always do this - ua-cam.com/video/-jmtV-qkIqU/v-deo.html
@@KayakhacksFishing thanks.
I'm actually here to look at how they should be used as my motorbike windscreen is held on with them and the previous owner had put the wellnut through both the screen and the substrate so it wasn't long enough to actually grab.
Verily helpful video. Thanks.
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 Washers will work to increase grab. Good luck!
Thanks! Quick and to the point.
When you can't see the other side, how do you know when the rubber is fully compressed, so you don't overtighten? I'm considering using these to mount a bracket to a carbon fiber sailboat mast.
How much longer than the thickness of the material they are mounted in should they be?
Thanks!
To figure out the length of the screw, add the thickness of the material, the length of the rubber and the thickness of whatever you are attaching. To that, I would had at least 1/4 inch. No need to use a lot of force. Once the screw is in firmly, you are good to go.
I had the lower wellnuts pull out of my windshield on my Suzuki Burgman. Could it be that I just didnt have them tight enough?. They looked tight. It happend while I was riding. Fortunately, I didn't lose the windshield because the top ones held, but I drove home at 20mph. Any advise? and yes they were OEM.
Hard to say. It could have been that they were either loose or defective
Do you have to use Teflon tape on the screw threads?
Interesting idea. I have not heard of anyone using that approach. They grip pretty well and the rubber makes a good seal.
I took your advice and bought well nuts but the rubber does not flare out as the one you displayed. Should I try a different brand?
That is odd. Check two things - is the screw long enough and are you tightening it all the way. You can check to see if the flare happens by just holding it and screwing it. If it does not flare, then it is defective.
What is the easiest way to determine the thickness of the material of a SOT kayak with no other access to the inside aside from the drain plug at the back? Do you think it's a safe bet that it's 5mm or less? The 20mm length on Amazon says grip range of .5mm to 5mm but the 25mm length starts at a whopping 8mm... I used trifold rivets on my sit-in kayak but I'm convinced well nuts are the way to go for a SOT.
You can send a note to the manufacturer customer support and ask. Another option is to open a hatch - there will be an edge there and you can measure directly.
Sadly there is no hatch on a Pelican Sentinel 100x Angler edition. The only access whatsoever to the interior of the hull is the half inch drain hole and I suspect the thickness isn't uniform. I hadn't considered emailing Pelican about this particular issue and think that might be the way to go. I appreciate the tip!
@@SeahawksFTW2014 Thanks for the insight on that kayak!
Great info as always ....set the hook brother
Great info! I’m looking to remove the geartrack that came with my kayak and replace with a different, longer type. Can I re-install using the original screwed holes if I use a well nut?
You should be able to do that since you have to drill a larger hole to insert the rubber part of the wellnut
Thanks! Glad I found your channel. I’m a subscriber now. Going back over your past videos now.
@@fishingfootballfishing1704 lol! There are around 700 of them!
I just ordered a pack of 12 of the correct size I need and looks like they work similar to the nuts I inserted in the frame of my old 1991 wrangler!
But my concern is , if you can pop them out! Will they work for installing my kayak seat and hold
Yes, you can drill them out. Rivets are stronger than well nuts, but bolting is best if you can reach.
What if your well nut won’t bulge? After I screw it in, I can just pull it back out by hand.
If you can pull it out, the hole is too large. Try the next size up on the well nut
My well nuts are still coming out I even use marine sealer on them I am using them on a railblazer kayak trolly mount what else can I do
The hole must have been slightly too large if they are coming out. I would get the next size up and use those.
@@KayakhacksFishing I try that but they won’t fit they like the same size thank u for responding bk to me I am going to see if I can put a 4 inch drybox hatch in the middle that way I could put some locknuts and bolts on it
@@KayakhacksFishing I love your videos by the way
@@lisalisa282 Let me know how that works!
@@lisalisa282 Thanks!
Great video! Thank you!
A little off topic, but I am thinking this could also be used for mounting things to the top of an RV. We already know the thickness of the plywood under the rubber rolled roof. This would seal from the back of the wood, however, we would also need to seal from the front of the wood, are there special screws or washers or sealant we could/should consider to water seal both sides of the hole we are creating?
For boats, people use silicone marine sealant to make certain there are no leaks. You could give it a try, but I am not competent to advice on RVs. Here is what boaters use - amzn.to/3p7g6ct
@@KayakhacksFishing thank you. While an RV doesn’t need to float, they are made with really thin plywood and any water that can get in will rot the RV and then is very expensive to repair. You are right on. There are a few sealants just like that which we can use. Wasn’t sure if this was the same for boats. Or if the well nut somehow sealed both sides. Still considering this as one option.
@@KimberlyCoxe My experience with the well nuts is that if you make the hole the right size (I like going 1/32 smaller), then it seals well.
@@KimberlyCoxe One trick we used with balsa cored decks (same issue) is that we drill the hole a bit wide and dig out the core. We then tape the bottom, fill it with epoxy, let it harden and redrill. Now, if whatever we insert (like a screw) leaks the leak does not get to the wood. You could do something similar by not drilling all the way through the plywood.
If you're using a well nut in an area where the screw or bolt extends down into the cockpit of your kayak, should you cut off the extending part? I'm guessing that if the well nut is reusable, that a new screw could be purchased if you need to recycle it.
I would only cut it off it got in the way of something. Better to just use a shorter screw. The well nut screws are standard.
are well nuts strong enough for adding carry handles to the back of the kayak?
i can't use washer/locking nut due to no access.
It depends on how heavy the kayak is. I think Tri-Grip rivets would be a better choice.
Which is the best well nuts 4m,5m or 6m? For adding kayak rails?
I used the M5s since I wanted the head of the screw to be flush with the track - amzn.to/38LUfUf
Nice Video!
Who carries these well nuts? I heard Lowe’s on the video but where else?
Amazon has a good selection - amzn.to/39b8nBo
I'm with Daniel. It looks like well nuts are not very common. HD and Lowe's carry 2 or 3 different sizes only and have a few in stock of each at my local stores.
that thing is kind of like a rubber riv nut ? great video -- thanks
Yes
Please do a hack on how to fix a hole you drilled. Both when you can and when you can't reach the inside of your kayak. Will epoxy work or that might warp the material around it?
Epoxy will not work on the material kayaks are made of. I’ll do a video on how to fix one of these holes
@@KayakhacksFishing One way to fix it is to fill the hole with a wellnut and a bolt ;)
I fill all my old mounting holes with wellnuts. Makes everything look better
Good one.
Спасибо!
Medium welldone
Cool!
you sound like hank hill
Funny... many people say that!
Amazon has all sorts, but boy, the reviews are all over the place. Complaints of pulling out, recommending the wrong-size drill bits, etc. Seems to me the problems would mostly be using a too-large drill bit.
Exactly. When I install these, I compare them to my drill bits and pick the next size smaller. I use a little soap to squeeze them in. If that does not work, I move up a size. Better tight!
We called these rivnuts in the 70s
So, a well nut is sort of a rubber rivet!
Yep
Well Nuts.. better than ill nuts!
👍😎
Thank you. Very useful and timely.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video thanks!
You're welcome!
Great info - many thanks
Glad it was helpful!