Whistleblowers Warn About the Dark Side of AI | The Circuit with Emily Chang
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Tech has always had its external critics. But every once in a while, whistleblowers step up and speak out. Their reasons may vary, but that courage comes at a cost. On this episode of The Circuit, Bloomberg’s Emily Chang is joined by Ifeoma Ozoma, Timnit Gebru, and Safiya Noble, who have raised the alarm on Big Tech’s growing influence in our daily lives. They discuss their experiences speaking out and the risks of what they see as tech’s newest emerging threat: artificial intelligence.
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6:30 2 USD an hour in Kenya is quite above the minimum wage in which is stated to be 15201 KSH (106.7 USD) per month in July 2023.
0:02: 💣 Whistleblowers in the tech industry face resistance and retaliation when speaking up about issues such as discrimination and bias.
4:25: 👥 The tech industry's culture of secrecy and lack of accountability is preventing workers from speaking up about unethical practices.
8:52: 🤔 Algorithms have a hidden influence on our lives, and their power is concerning.
12:48: 😬 Concerns about the impact of AI on jobs, content moderation, education, and surveillance are valid and real.
17:08: ⚖ The importance of protecting and supporting those who speak up against injustice in the workplace.
20:40: 🌍 The future of technology should be built with consideration for a hospitable and equitable world.
Recap by Tammy AI
These women make excellent observations about the dangers of AI and hats off to Emily Chang for arranging this event. I believe one of the biggest threats that will be created by AI is (1) the world is full of very tech savy bad actors and (2) the world is full of a lot of gullible people that will fall for the actions of bad actors. Stay tune.
Right on!
Yeah like believing that a guy who literally orchestrated a coup is somehow going to save democracy
Emily you’ve done it again! Wonderful presentation. These three women are so inspiring. Thank you for bringing them to our attention.❤
Thanks Emily and these three ladies for bring this issue all out ❤ And yes, AI does concerns me a lot..
Thank you to these wonderful intelligent and caring women. They play a pertinent role in the lives of so many. Thank you Bloomberg for covering this story. ❤
Thank you so much for all the episodes to date, Emily. I have gained good information and gotten entertained. 👏👏👏
I didn't hear them give examples of the dystopian future they feared. I would have liked to hear that so I could weigh the pros and cons myself.
they said that those examples are happening right now. someone being denied care, a mortgage, etc...
Try listening again.
As 4th amendment protections start to ease due to our bribed Congress, they'll use such info as your med history to see how much a drug company should charge you to maximize profits on the drugs you need to survive, as an example
AI is undoubtedly a game-changer, but I can't help but wonder why some people are so nervous about its potential takeover.
Too many movies
Because a takeover by something that isn’t human is extremely scary. Something a lot smarter than us that sure we may have created but we really don’t understand how it works or how we’d stop it if it began to do things that harmed people is a scary future. It has the ability to do a lot of good and there’s a litany of issues and corruption within current governments but that doesn’t negate the negatives of an ai that controls our economy and the way our society functions
It depends on what is meant by what AI will take over. It's clear social media technology has undermined / taking over the nature of truth. AI will enhance that takeover. Stay tuned.
@@cheersmodreams691 I can understand that perspective. But it's ultimately in the hands of human beings, no? AI can't really take over without human beings being involved ..?
@@theluschmasterjournalsthe point is bad humans are in charge of these tech giants.
2:32 That dog! 😂😂😂
i think timnit is spot on about everything
Just parameter tuning is public discourse mostly, but if it isn't overly simplistic then
Emily Chang and The Circuit is Exceptional!!!! I am first of all happy to see Emily chang back through this channel. I stopped watching Bloomberg Tech news when she leaft. Thank You So Much for bringing her back.
Bravo ladies, bravo! Your courage and integrity is inspiring. RESPECT !!
It seems like there is a storm blowing outside while this interview was conducted, but the audio does not seem to be picking up all the noise from the winds. This leads me to conclude that this whole Bloomberg segment is AI-generated and not real.
I’m glad you made this episode. The rest of the series was entertaining and insightful but this is important!
I can recommend listen to lex friedman podcast with AI personalities instead of random women on a couch
Lex is wonderful but these are not random women they are highly credentialed accomplished experts in the field who have had boots on the ground from the outset and been intimately involved with these issues
@@stregalilith true - must have missed that. the setting made it look so random to me
This is hilarious and ironic. Two of these woman are twice the scientist Lex could ever be. Seems to me like the Lex Fridman grift got you. Lex has built nothing
Excellent interview ... These women are incredibly well-versed and (IMO) heroes of sorts.
Artificial Intelligence is simply an instrument. The underlying issue is the human being who is using it. AI has the ability to enhance both positive and negative aspects.
Excellent content. I gotta keep up with the show.
Thank you ladies.
im here looking for if Auroto express his hate comments here lol, he was a star when Emily host BT show lol,but I so much hope I get wrong
This interview was all over the place. Nothing substantive.
Good for these women, standing up for proper morals. The owners and leaders of these technical companies will rue the path that they took, but that will be on themselves.
It's a shame that old boys club never dies. It just gets younger CEO's who clearly don't want anyone to prosper but men. Disgusting that this crap is thriving in 2023.
15:45 "Sam Altman"
They're trying hard to control themselves, they know something.. 😂😂😂😂😂
Google earth can be intimidating
Thank you for this. It would be very helpful to explain the TIME element of Ai compounding...like, how a Ai written & deployed in 2018 just gets stronger, now that it is 2023. And please hurry...
this was a great panel, these people are not gonna sit back and let the wrong things happen,
emily chang put together a great crew to talk about AI - an academic, a policy expert and a computer scientist. i'm so glad there was no politician or entrepreneur in there talking BS for their own benefit.
great panel and very insightful discussion, thanks 👍
Thank you for sharing this interview.
Unfortunately, what they believe in is making money and who cares about human dignity. Right…delude yourselves. I think humanity needs to mature a little. This pre-occupation with profit is like children being obsessed with getting stickers. It is the lesson learned that counts in the end.
❤
I questioned how much C4 explosive would be required to destroy FB servers... I was found not to be compliant with FB community standards... LOL
Surely you must be capable of thinking of better solutions
Such beautiful intelligent women with class.
The Caribbean and Latam Region is becoming very digitalised.... Will the region become very dependent on Ai?
The problem with AI is that it will shove millions out of the workplace and these people won’t have a say and who is pushing that shoving? Private corporations
But that’s not the only problem
Great Questions Emily
Was Emily Chang always an activist journalist, which used to be an oxymoron, but has now become a redundant term?
You don’t know much about the history of journalism. Also Emily does a great job.
Ever hear of Woodward & Bernstein? I thought not.
what works for me might not work for you. they gotta open their eyes and think a little harder and creatively.
What would you suggest?
I like these interviews cause it brings perspectives. I just struggle to relate to the discord in the US. Not just regarding ethnicity. But for discussion purposes where a plantation is a no-no for weddings. It's a beautiful spot though. Used worldwide. Some of my US black acquaintances who moved to Japan, Korea, Singapore and other parts of Asia quickly learn though, that what is politically incorrect in US is just friendly conversation. One of my high school classrooms was where the Japanese mass beheaded people of my parent's community. Still being used today!
There's no doubt though that the capitalist nature of the of the world is just so far off balance. The capital class just wants you to work all the time and pay you little. Then have taxpayers subsidize their workers. It's absurd and that's why there's a degradation of family, children, personal well-being.
When I went to school in Japan they said that white people smell like hamburger and milk to our faces like we were too stupid to understand Japanese which was A: ultra funny and B: kind of indicative of the culture in the country at that time. I hear things have changed somewhat though. I definitely remember war crime revisionism classes which was horrible
Ice cold take
Working as a Community Builder in tech you realize that you can't exist in the "Tech World" if you believe in "Work to not define your life"
I think this should have been three interviews with each of the women. At this point I don't know what it is about. Is it about whistleblowers as a thing or the things these particular whistleblowers revealed. If its about whistleblowers as a concept I feel the video is weak, though that is its biggest strengths. If its about the revelations of these women, this video leaves a lot to be desired.
Do 'squash' and 'quash' mean the same thing ? Don't ask an American journalist .
This “a.I.” progress we have been seeing is nothing but evolution on a exponential scale. These machines will eventually be exponentially smarter, more efficient and healthier for Earth. We as humans just can’t understand or accept the fact that nature could choose to discard us at any given moment, so we fear what we perceive as a threat to our standing at the top of the food chain, or our piece of the proverbial pie. Rather than live in fear I choose to embrace and cherish the life nature has given me and if the universe has other plans for humanity, then so be it.
This is more like a women bonding session. Nothing really substantive is going to come out of it.
what exactly are they complaining about? its easy to see why this bunch of professional whiners was fired
Ten seconds into the video where the first woman is talking about making less money than her white male coworker, I knew this was just a propaganda film then. Nothing can be taken serious in this video if that is the first thing mentioned.
Their issues are so small and minuscule I don’t even understand or register any issues that they try to bring up.
Meaning you don’t get yet how those issues are connected up into larger issues.
True. A little here. A little there and just like that. It’s ENRON all over again.
@@iampers0n the only that pertained to AI in a larger way was dataset bias, something the field works hard to remove, not out of basic ethics but because the model will not work effectively with BIAS.
Those issues are huge to the people they directly impact. Way to show heartless privilege.
Is the potential of being ruled by wealthy AI-owning families, forever, a big enough issue?
How about the vast majority of the working-class being unable to compete for an income, against AI far more intelligent and capable than they are?
Or the potential for our economy to entirely collapse, as more and more companies replace workers with AI, until they have no customers who can afford their products anymore?
You are right-you don’t understand these issues
The progressive subtext takes over the whole report. These people are not against discrimination, they just think that the companies discriminate against the. wrong people.
@@gorgthesalty I heard the phrase "whie male" far too often. I am no fan of tech companies but I am also sick of the obsessive dumping on white males.
@@gorgthesalty This became more of a video on general workplace abuse, and racism, instead of the real concerns about AI[not many are valid], where a healthy debate could've occured.
That is nonsense. Don't make false claims about the goals of others. Nothing about progressive leaning views has anything to do with that. Lousy smear propaganda.
@@gorgthesaltyNo, you’re right. Don’t back down from your clearly assessed explanation of this presentation.
@@TzviLangermannToo bad you heard that one phrase and nothing else
In that case perhaps you should do it better
The dark side of AI is man!
You lost credibility at the "white male boss" statement.
Relax snowflake
They didn’t lose credibility they only lost you and others just as tone deaf
Would love to hear from actual industry leaders and experts. These are people who have made careers from complaining.
let's give them the benefit of the doubt and look into this issue, instead of brushing it off.
Are you suggesting that whistleblowing is a form of business? Do whistleblowers earn money from "complaining"?
Too busy advancing the field way too fast for conventional reporting, and without discrediting what they have said here, but the topics they brought hardly pertain to AI specifically.
Industry leaders have been 'sounding the alarm' too, but they don't feel the need to do anything about it until someone forces them.
These ARE actual industry leaders and experts
Not everyone wants a life like that though. Not fair to impose your ideals on others.
Nobody is suggesting "imposing" any lifestyle on anyone. All that was said, in that regard, is people should have more options available to them.
very very smart people. i want them on my team lol
Such weird women
How so?
@@raatoraamro1093Because people who post such remarks judge others by one standard: “This person is not me”.
This is not a diverse panel.
Such brave ladies!
How on earth are they brave at all? They're so brave but getting gushing adulations and attention from Bloomberg.
@ajr9993 they got sued by some of the biggest companies on the planet for telling the truth. I guarantee you will never do anything half as brave as them.
@raatoraamro1093 lol they're getting sued because they violated their employment contract. They might have to shell out a few bucks but it'll be made up for by whatever book deals and media tours they do. It's not like they're facing a criminal case. So, no, they're not brave at all, this is merely a cash out/attention seeking strategy.
@@ajr993 a lot braver than you just commenting on the internet anonymously
@@raatoraamro1093 I never said it was brave
So, I'm to blame Kenyans for ChatGPT's consistent and fervent applications of "wokeness" (like for basic biology or medical questions)? Ok, got it.
I mean
Lawyers
"wokeness" as people seem to mean it, is just what these companies feel is legally safe, and will bring them as wide a range of customers as possible. Nothing more to it.
Maybe Emily now wants to join those ladies and live in the countryside 😂
Hmm how is there not a single man in this conversation? This is unfortunately not representative of tech at all. There are lots of men who dissent against AI, you could have included one atleast. Instead now it looks like a Man vs Woman thing, like ecofeminism. We should instead be fully united in these issues
You are right. Now please find me these men. Who are they? We need them.
You guys worry too much about the future. Just relax. Everything will be okay 😜
If we "relax" and don't change core things about our economy/society soon.. We'll end up being ruled by a few wealthy AI-owning families, forever.. While most workers struggle to compete against AI more capable than they are.. And which owes it's existence to the years of data and content those workers and indeed everyone created, that gets used to train AI.
Our current system is also headed for collapse, if we don't change things. As more and more companies replace workers with AI, eventually they'll run out of customers who can afford to buy their products. Doing nothing all but guarantees a negative outcome for most people. AI needs to be regulated, and taxed, and pay everyone an AI Dividend.
@@GrumpDog Just relax :)
@@GrumpDogHe’s telling you to relax because he benefits from your inertia
The so called “Whistleblowers” are definitely the people who got bullied in school and blames the billionaires for their miserable lives after grown up
This house is definitely the house of a miserable person 😂
Yeah why can’t they be cooler and just criticize strangers on the internet like you, you legend!
Not worth a reply
Lots of talk about slavery here. I don't think there is a culture on this planet that hasn't been enslaved at one point in history or another. Yet, it seems a certain section of the American public can't seem to let go and move on. Success is the only way to move forward. Continuing to harp on about plantations and the white males that are holding you all (individuals continuing to invoke rage from refrencing plantations ect..) back is only to your detriment.
There was almost no talk of slavery but you certainly found the one mention and got triggered. Just keep pretending racism doesn’t exist and keep your head in the sand. Much more comfortable that way!
As long as people are living lives that suffer from the downstream impacts of slavery it will be an issue. We will move on when these consequences are removed.