@@TravisLoneWolfWalsh There are two of us who believe in this then... But the fact is that he believed he was a hero, but his actions showed what he really was.
Except that Cromwell never was a hero. He suffered from severe depression in the late 1620's and early 1630's as a result of personal troubles and disputes and came out of it with a case of extremely radical Puritanism and a god complex. Cromwell believed he was chosen by divine providence to drag all of England along with him in his personal redemption arc. The guy was such a massive narcissist he makes Donald Trump look like a normal person.
Not from Cromwell's own perspective. Cromwell believed from the very beginning he was chosen by God to lead England and rid it of all sin (according to his own extremely radical Puritan interpretation of sin) and bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ. The guy was an extreme narcissist with a god complex. It was never about republicanism or anti-monarchism for him. Cromwell had nothing against the concept of a monarchy. Charles I just so happened to stand in the way of his divine mission. This is also why Cromwell kept dismissing parliaments and just ruled as a military dictator. He was never a genuine supporter of a parliamentary system, parliament just was a tool for him for seizing power that was discarded as soon as it had served its purpose and was no longer useful to his divine mission.
I hove hearing these historical songs from obscure eras (at least to me). I'm an American so I didn't learn about Cromwell or the Commonwealth in school. May history never be censored!
The first verse seems to be sung in the person of Cromwell. The second, of Charles I. The third, the people of England, or Charles II speaking of himself.
Was Charles II really called the Black Prince during his exile? If so, that’s honestly a pretty clever throwback to the medieval Black Prince, evoking the idea of a true King deprived of his throne as the realm is left in anarchy instead. (Just with Charles being deprived by circumstances whereas the original died)
It was because he had a Sicilian grandmother if recall and thus his skin was blacker than the norm, plus he was 6+ foot, when he escaped at Putney they put up posters for a "tall black boy".
When Titus Oates invented the Popish Plot in 1678 he claimed that the Catholic plotters referred to Charles II as being 'a black bastard' for it was claimed that his father was a black man, not Charles I. Nonsense, needless to say. In England in the 1650s the state put about propaganda that Charles II was utterly debauched; a myth scotched by Professor Ronald Hutton's excellent and far from uncritical, biography of Charles II.
Cromwell was true of heart, fought and won against a corrupt king who sought to make himself above the law of the land. The world has the peasants from the Fens for democracy.
why? what makes him any different from you? If anything, you are probably far greater than some man who claims superiority based on divine right! wake up man!
In every description you keep saying that these songs are actually from the 17th century but I find that to be very doubtful. Do you have a source for that?
Most of these songs are actually from the 17th century, if the song is an anachronism or has no clear date I’ll state it in the description. Here’s a link to the original ballad: ebba.english.ucsb.edu/printballad.php?i=BL_669f_14_022_2448x2448.jpg
There was plenty more of the same when Charles II returned. While he gave a pardon to most who served Cromwell's government, those who had signed his father's death warrant were hunted down, and about half a dozen of them were executed in a particularly nasty way.
I mean, it was meant to sound sad, mournful, with a tune that sounds off and abnormal to symbolize the insanity and irrationality the Calvaliers believed that the country plunged into.
@@antiepix9555 Nothing super irrational. They supported the Royal Casque, which’d just been torn down in favor of some Parliament, it’d be natural to think that the entire country was going to fall apart, especially after so much dissolution and dissent. Forby, doesn’t matter what no Man thinks, as needless to say, Cromwell, a complicated man, was far from a good lad. No surprise there, every revolutionary in history can be considered cruel and evil. The Irish’d remember how he slaughtered Catholics without second thought, having heeded Protestant narratives. New Model Army? Sure. Heroic heroic? Not really. Christmas, Puritanism, Friend of the Poor v. Divine Right of Kings Highbrow. You get the point. Charles may have been delusional, but the same can be said for any man in history with too much premier power than he can properly handle with cogency and sanity.
Oliver Cromwell is simply the human personification of the phrase: Either you die a hero or you live long to see yourself become a villain
He was a villain at the moment he rebel he was like a lucifer who wanted to be god but he was cut down to the pit
He never was a hero
@@TravisLoneWolfWalsh There are two of us who believe in this then...
But the fact is that he believed he was a hero, but his actions showed what he really was.
He never was a hero at the beginning, he was nothing but a power hungry sociopath who destroyed english history and legacy.
Except that Cromwell never was a hero. He suffered from severe depression in the late 1620's and early 1630's as a result of personal troubles and disputes and came out of it with a case of extremely radical Puritanism and a god complex. Cromwell believed he was chosen by divine providence to drag all of England along with him in his personal redemption arc. The guy was such a massive narcissist he makes Donald Trump look like a normal person.
Cromwell is the definition of: “you became the very thing you swore to destroy”
"Have i ever told you the tragedy of Cromwell the Covetous?"
same as napoleon if i remember correctly?
@@ballgang367 it’s a British legend
Not from Cromwell's own perspective. Cromwell believed from the very beginning he was chosen by God to lead England and rid it of all sin (according to his own extremely radical Puritan interpretation of sin) and bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ. The guy was an extreme narcissist with a god complex. It was never about republicanism or anti-monarchism for him. Cromwell had nothing against the concept of a monarchy. Charles I just so happened to stand in the way of his divine mission. This is also why Cromwell kept dismissing parliaments and just ruled as a military dictator. He was never a genuine supporter of a parliamentary system, parliament just was a tool for him for seizing power that was discarded as soon as it had served its purpose and was no longer useful to his divine mission.
I hove hearing these historical songs from obscure eras (at least to me). I'm an American so I didn't learn about Cromwell or the Commonwealth in school. May history never be censored!
These songs opened up a whole new world of history an why are country is the way it is.
The first verse seems to be sung in the person of Cromwell.
The second, of Charles I.
The third, the people of England, or Charles II speaking of himself.
Charles the third should have been Charles Edward Stuart aka Bonny Prince Charlie.
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@@Sonny-m1f We already have a real Charles III.
Never forget what they did to our King, may it never happen again.
A chill ran down my spine at the black prince part.
And why is that, care to explain?..
As always, AMAZING!!
Was Charles II really called the Black Prince during his exile?
If so, that’s honestly a pretty clever throwback to the medieval Black Prince, evoking the idea of a true King deprived of his throne as the realm is left in anarchy instead. (Just with Charles being deprived by circumstances whereas the original died)
It’s not very clear, but I’m pretty sure some called him it during the interregnum.
Isn’t that just prince Zuko from ATLA?
It was because he had a Sicilian grandmother if recall and thus his skin was blacker than the norm, plus he was 6+ foot, when he escaped at Putney they put up posters for a "tall black boy".
We wuz King Charles II and shieet @@dmvs-bt1hk
When Titus Oates invented the Popish Plot in 1678 he claimed that the Catholic plotters referred to Charles II as being 'a black bastard' for it was claimed that his father was a black man, not Charles I. Nonsense, needless to say. In England in the 1650s the state put about propaganda that Charles II was utterly debauched; a myth scotched by Professor Ronald Hutton's excellent and far from uncritical, biography of Charles II.
God save the king
God didnt save charlie 1 from headlessnes or charlie 3 from cancer 💀
@@Weezerand... good thing I said “King” not Charles😊👍
Long live the King!
May Cromwell and his traitors rest in Hell!
Cromwell was true of heart, fought and won against a corrupt king who sought to make himself above the law of the land. The world has the peasants from the Fens for democracy.
History is written by the victors... but sometimes victory takes the long way around. As happened here.
History is written by anyone who cares to write it. Jacobite history is usually written by the losers.
God Save The King! 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴
why? what makes him any different from you? If anything, you are probably far greater than some man who claims superiority based on divine right! wake up man!
@@chriswashingtonbeats American?
@@oliversherman2414 na just british youth lol
@@chriswashingtonbeats well then you should know that it's just an expression we use
@oliversherman2414 I know but I disagree with it bro. Isn't God save Britain, or God save the people better?
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🫡may Charles I fare good in heaven
In every description you keep saying that these songs are actually from the 17th century but I find that to be very doubtful. Do you have a source for that?
Most of these songs are actually from the 17th century, if the song is an anachronism or has no clear date I’ll state it in the description. Here’s a link to the original ballad: ebba.english.ucsb.edu/printballad.php?i=BL_669f_14_022_2448x2448.jpg
@@Imperial_Britannia Asked and answered. Thank you, I appreciate it
can you do Tranent Muir?
Pack all Truobles in Your Old Kit Bag. Make that song
I already have, and that song is from 1916. Not WW2.
Movies names?
Cromwell (1970) To Kill a King (2002) and majority of clips of Charles II are from two series, The First Churchills and New Worlds.
@@Imperial_BritanniaThank you
Cool video but you need make more videos about ww2
WW2 Is overrated
9th
🇨🇦 I did not like this song, the tune of it was terrible. It was a macabre happening though so, I suppose it fit.
There was plenty more of the same when Charles II returned. While he gave a pardon to most who served Cromwell's government, those who had signed his father's death warrant were hunted down, and about half a dozen of them were executed in a particularly nasty way.
I mean, it was meant to sound sad, mournful, with a tune that sounds off and abnormal to symbolize the insanity and irrationality the Calvaliers believed that the country plunged into.
@@antiepix9555 Nothing super irrational. They supported the Royal Casque, which’d just been torn down in favor of some Parliament, it’d be natural to think that the entire country was going to fall apart, especially after so much dissolution and dissent.
Forby, doesn’t matter what no Man thinks, as needless to say, Cromwell, a complicated man, was far from a good lad. No surprise there, every revolutionary in history can be considered cruel and evil. The Irish’d remember how he slaughtered Catholics without second thought, having heeded Protestant narratives. New Model Army? Sure. Heroic heroic? Not really.
Christmas, Puritanism, Friend of the Poor v. Divine Right of Kings Highbrow. You get the point. Charles may have been delusional, but the same can be said for any man in history with too much premier power than he can properly handle with cogency and sanity.
As i always say God Save The King!!!!
😭😭😭