It has occurred to me, at last, the drums are wrong for this version. The drums of the period did not have the side drum rattle. They were deep, resonant and carried a long way. It was only occurred to me on hearing a re-enactment.
I'm an English patriot, and, honestly, I can't decide if I would side with King Charles or Oliver Cromwell if I lived in the 1640s, both have compelling arguments. I'm torn between my English nationalism and my Patriotic monarchism.
@@killgriffinnowhe lived a life of prudence and indulgence, razed taxes across the state pushing folk into destitution. He paid that debt back with his head.
Hmmm. I'm an American whose ancestry includes a Scot who was captured at Dunbar, survived the death march to Durham, and was shipped to Maine as an indentured servant. Not sure I can agree with you on this. Then there's Drogheda, though I'm not Irish.
@@history43487"death march" Don't be a pussy Half the parlamentarian prisoners captured at Lostwithiel, yet i don't hear anyone pin it down on Charles But when Cromwell frees nrealy half the prisoners on the fields of battle and then procedes to free the conscripted soldiers and only then ship off the volunteers, stupid enough to start a third war, theb he's suddely a "monster" Truly, the Lord Protector was way too merciful to the murderers of Montrose's irishmen
The Royal Marty King Charles was a good person with honour, virtue and a very strong sense of duty! He did his best to be the best king possible, and cared for the welfare of his people! Unlike the roundhead creatures, for who the deepest hole in Hell is better than what they deserve! For King and Monarchy!
England always was a republic by virtue of being a Parliamentary Monarchy. Absolute Monarchy is despotic… Parliamentary Monarchy is a Monarchical republic as it fits the the pre-enlightenment definition of a republic and the early English translation of the Latin “res publica” is “commonwealth”, the old meaning of wealth being “well-being” so “commonwealth” is literally “common well-being”. The Kingdom of England is a commonwealth i.e. a republic.
@@foundationofBritain England is best when she has a good King/Queen faithfully served by a loyal Parliament, if you ask me. Just look at Queen Elizabeth I, for example.
Would you rather be a serf for a military dictator who held absolute power and was replaced by his son (totally not a king though!) who literally banned Christmas, or be left alone by the King
All that money and effort in battle scenes which are absolutely nothing like the real thing. Did film-makers think they had some sort sort of duty to always get it wrong?
The irony is(I'm a military historian from Scotland,I drive my boyfriend nuts watching historical films)it probably costs MORE to do it inaccurately than it would to do it correctly! Another thing that really annoys me as a gay working class man(I let folk say once they don't like homosexuality,that's free speech,twice is hassling me,I hit them,I would never call cops,I despise hate crime laws)is the amount of historical dramas with gay relationships in them,yes,the same proportion of men and women were gay in 1124 than in 2024,but they hid it. Political correctness makes it look like every second person in the past was gay,plus in a historically based drama I don't want straight or gay relationships taking up half the programme.
@@MrImpossibroGaming This is exactly what I mean. Always resorting to the “holier than thou” narrative. I did not even bring up Catholicism and you choose to shift shame onto them.
The Levellers were so evil that both the Cavaliers and Roundheads agreed that they needed to go. The Levellers were the original Communists. It's fitting. Good on you chaps.
One of the best war songs ever put to paper
It has occurred to me, at last, the drums are wrong for this version. The drums of the period did not have the side drum rattle. They were deep, resonant and carried a long way. It was only occurred to me on hearing a re-enactment.
For God, for England, and for King Charlie! FORWARD, you noblest English!!
Certified hood classic
Has to be one of my favorites!
I'm an English patriot, and, honestly, I can't decide if I would side with King Charles or Oliver Cromwell if I lived in the 1640s, both have compelling arguments. I'm torn between my English nationalism and my Patriotic monarchism.
At least the Stuarts came from the Islands
@@Pufferfish1805 Cromwell didn't?
Charles did not get the chop from being the worst king, but the stupidest.
@@hogcranker35don’t believe this nonsense, Cromwell was English through and through.
@@killgriffinnowhe lived a life of prudence and indulgence, razed taxes across the state pushing folk into destitution. He paid that debt back with his head.
I wonder if we English will endure the next… God forgive our idleness.
Ofcourse you will.
We'll win
Away at Leeds.
Remember that the Wexford and Drogheda massacres were committed by Cromwell! And that he instituted a military dictatorship!
Banned Christmas to the bastard!
And what about Portadown? Don't act like the Irish were blameless.
You've forgotten Portadown. Cromwell was a hero compared to Charles I and his followers.
🏴🇬🇧 United we Stand divided we fall
kiss me England I’m English man I want chewsday
😂
Even as a Scotsman I respect Cromwell.
Hmmm. I'm an American whose ancestry includes a Scot who was captured at Dunbar, survived the death march to Durham, and was shipped to Maine as an indentured servant. Not sure I can agree with you on this. Then there's Drogheda, though I'm not Irish.
@@history43487"death march"
Don't be a pussy
Half the parlamentarian prisoners captured at Lostwithiel, yet i don't hear anyone pin it down on Charles
But when Cromwell frees nrealy half the prisoners on the fields of battle and then procedes to free the conscripted soldiers and only then ship off the volunteers, stupid enough to start a third war, theb he's suddely a "monster"
Truly, the Lord Protector was way too merciful to the murderers of Montrose's irishmen
A CROMWELL !!! A CROMWELL !!!
What's the movie?
The Movie is called Cromwell
Was this song sung by the Parliementarians or Royalists?
God save King Charles I, and to hell with Cromwell and his tyranny!
Mate, have even heard of the 11 years of Tyranny. You do not even understand our civil war, just stop.
@@foundationofBritain I do, and I am a cavalier.
Huzzah
@@foundationofBritainCromwell hasn't The Divine Right, and by God, The Cavaliers were in the right.
@@foundationofBritainyou, Sir, do not understand. Britain is not a Republic and never should be!
The Royal Marty King Charles was a good person with honour, virtue and a very strong sense of duty! He did his best to be the best king possible, and cared for the welfare of his people! Unlike the roundhead creatures, for who the deepest hole in Hell is better than what they deserve! For King and Monarchy!
cope get dabbed on papist
Long live the republic!
Long live the King!
@anthroimperzia3927 The King of France
England always was a republic by virtue of being a Parliamentary Monarchy.
Absolute Monarchy is despotic… Parliamentary Monarchy is a Monarchical republic as it fits the the pre-enlightenment definition of a republic and the early English translation of the Latin “res publica” is “commonwealth”, the old meaning of wealth being “well-being” so “commonwealth” is literally “common well-being”.
The Kingdom of England is a commonwealth i.e. a republic.
@@foundationofBritain💀
@@foundationofBritain England is best when she has a good King/Queen faithfully served by a loyal Parliament, if you ask me. Just look at Queen Elizabeth I, for example.
Rather be an English peasant without a monarchy than an English serf for the king
That wasn't the choice here though. It seems like the choice but in the end the Lord Protector ( Cromwell) became as a King.
Would you rather be a serf for a military dictator who held absolute power and was replaced by his son (totally not a king though!) who literally banned Christmas, or be left alone by the King
All that money and effort in battle scenes which are absolutely nothing like the real thing. Did film-makers think they had some sort sort of duty to always get it wrong?
No I've checked and in the 17th centuary pike just sprinted at each other as fast as they could
The irony is(I'm a military historian from Scotland,I drive my boyfriend nuts watching historical films)it probably costs MORE to do it inaccurately than it would to do it correctly!
Another thing that really annoys me as a gay working class man(I let folk say once they don't like homosexuality,that's free speech,twice is hassling me,I hit them,I would never call cops,I despise hate crime laws)is the amount of historical dramas with gay relationships in them,yes,the same proportion of men and women were gay in 1124 than in 2024,but they hid it.
Political correctness makes it look like every second person in the past was gay,plus in a historically based drama I don't want straight or gay relationships taking up half the programme.
@@petermcallister107 Yes Peter, agreed on all counts!
God bless the puritans! God bless the holy on earth!
The Puritans weren’t as holy as they pretended to be.
@@seanhoey5939 far better than Catholics 😂
@@MrImpossibroGaming This is exactly what I mean. Always resorting to the “holier than thou” narrative. I did not even bring up Catholicism and you choose to shift shame onto them.
@@seanhoey5939 I don’t give a fuck
@@seanhoey5939 it’s kinda important when discussing the subject matter but alright bud 😂
More elitism they dissed the levellers
The Levellers were so evil that both the Cavaliers and Roundheads agreed that they needed to go.
The Levellers were the original Communists. It's fitting. Good on you chaps.