The Differences in Dissociation Triggered by Shame and Terror - and How to Work with Each

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2020
  • Some of our most challenging work is with clients who have suffered from trauma - and when a client dissociates, that work can become even more complex.
    The way we approach a client’s dissociation may vary based on what triggered it.
    In this video, Bethany Brand, PhD, shares the clues she looks for when distinguishing between two triggers for dissociation - shame and terror. She’ll also walk us through the steps she takes when working with each.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 28

  • @dooei94
    @dooei94 3 роки тому +27

    I wish you were my therapist. I got so uncomfortable when my therapist talked about stuff about my life, my shoulders went inwards, I had crossed my legs, I almost had a «fetal position» just in a chair. I was so scared for some reason, she kept talking and talking, and then she said «is it cold in here?? Hmm maybe it’s cold here» 😣 instead of asking me why I looked small or scared, like you’re mentioning in this video. That’s why I wish you were my therapist. My therapist just makes me feel stupid and abnormal. Just wanted to let this out. Phew. Great video, thanks. (Please excuse my english)

    • @d.mcadams8194
      @d.mcadams8194 3 роки тому +4

      Find a better match for a therapist.

    • @dooei94
      @dooei94 3 роки тому +5

      @@d.mcadams8194 yes I have to do that. Problem is, I’m too scared to tell her. I don’t know how to without looking mean

    • @bri3449
      @bri3449 3 роки тому +2

      @@dooei94 any well intentioned person would not take offense to that and definitely not think you are being mean. also tho, who cares about being mean? this is your healing and livelihood and you deserve the best care.

    • @dooei94
      @dooei94 3 роки тому +15

      I plucked up some courage and got them to change my therapist! Yay!! Thank you guys.

    • @sevgi4799
      @sevgi4799 3 роки тому

      Before walking away from the therapist maybe there is a chance for growth. This may be a unhealthy pattern of dealing with authority figures thus you may have experienced and expressed the same pattern as with you parents or significant figures in your life. Thus, by expressing your thoughts and feelinga can be a way of starting to heal from that unhealthy pattern of dealing with authority figures.
      There is a opportunity a golden one for you to grow and start having that true confidence that is dormant within you.
      However, it goes beyond this sesion is up to you and your therapist.
      Best of luck!
      Ps i just noticed it was 4 months ago. However, I would nice to hear how it went?

  • @Cathy-xi8cb
    @Cathy-xi8cb 2 роки тому +24

    Some of us are not responding to perceived disgust by the therapist. Their opinion, in fact, means very little. Our shame is both literal and existential. Existing is shameful. Our essence is shameful. To us.

    • @fightington
      @fightington 7 місяців тому

      IFS reveala the Self that is absolute and unquestionable compassion that the shameful part responds to - because it's like jesus or god or a utterly non-judgemental and infinitly loving being that is perfectly caring and ok with parts of us that we thought noone could ever, in a million years - accept and love without condition or limit

  • @a.k.3110
    @a.k.3110 Рік тому +7

    Yea, gently offering the words is so helpful to reconnect to the older parts that can talk when i feel stuck in speachlessness. My trauma started way before speach development. So having words alone is so helpful. Such an apreachiated gift. ☺️
    Thank you for i am feeling vulnerable talking about that topic. 🎁

  • @kimlec3592
    @kimlec3592 3 роки тому +5

    This lady is good.

  • @SovendeMay
    @SovendeMay Рік тому +1

    Hello. I'm trying to recover from painful shame wounds and complex PTSD and I found this so helpful to hear. Thank you for sharing.

  • @kannibalcopyright
    @kannibalcopyright 2 роки тому +10

    What if the person disassociating is overwhelmed by sensory input?

  • @rubymetalcat18
    @rubymetalcat18 3 роки тому +2

    Another great way of helping someone come back into the present moment is to ask them to focus (if they can) on their contact points. If the client is sitting in a chair, ask them to focus on what the chair feels like on their back, what about the feelings in their hands and their feet, what does the weight in their hip bones feel like in the seat, etc...

  • @nerudaad
    @nerudaad 3 роки тому

    These are good advices.

  • @zehisap8883
    @zehisap8883 2 роки тому

    Good stuff

  • @Ry-iz9bc
    @Ry-iz9bc Рік тому +3

    I had a bad disassociation experience with a counselor who was not able to help me get back on my feet. I’m looking for a therapist who can help me regulate my nervous system.

    • @nicabm
      @nicabm  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for taking the time to write us.
      Unfortunately, we do not offer referrals, nor do we release any information about the practitioners who’ve participated in any of our trainings.
      I can, however, recommend that you check out this database through Psychology Today.
      Through this site, you’re able to search for therapists and support groups based on location, and filter through the results based on a variety of factors - specialties, approaches, and methods.
      I am sorry I can’t be of further assistance, but I do hope this is a step in the right direction and helpful in finding the resources you need.

  • @rivercurrent
    @rivercurrent Рік тому +4

    I lost a job because someone kept hammering on my shame button and I would dissociate and not be able to function on the job. This created a viscous cycle in which the Shane mongering ramped up. How does one stop dissociating in the work place?

    • @fightington
      @fightington 7 місяців тому

      IFS reveala the Self that is absolute and unquestionable compassion that the shameful part responds to - because it's like jesus or god or a utterly non-judgemental and infinitly loving being that is perfectly caring and ok with parts of us that we thought noone could ever, in a million years - accept and love without condition or limit

  • @fightington
    @fightington 7 місяців тому

    IFS reveala the Self that is absolute and unquestionable compassion that the shameful part responds to - because it's like jesus or god or a utterly non-judgemental and infinitly loving being that is perfectly caring and ok with parts of us that we thought noone could ever, in a million years - accept and love without condition or limit

  • @scottthomas5819
    @scottthomas5819 3 роки тому

    have some points!
    comment comment comment...

  • @sp5704
    @sp5704 2 роки тому +7

    Sadly a lot of therapists gaslight and shame even when they question when others do that you tell the about ; sadly most people are bull-shit and garbage ; it’s the research and theory that’s ideal but when you talk to a human being it al turns into gaslighting, power plays, manipulation, the human behind the desk will almost always denigrate the person across their desk . Believe me I have lived and traveled all over the world and this seemed to be 95% f the time this dynamic was happening

  • @leahflower9924
    @leahflower9924 Рік тому +1

    What if you're feeling triggered by an old threat that was strong but you are also presently feeling it to a lesser degree...like my family was a huge threat to me in high school and now I have a better relationship with them but there is still a present danger

    • @lucianfox
      @lucianfox 10 місяців тому

      I don't understand why you would want to keep your family around

    • @fightington
      @fightington 7 місяців тому

      IFS reveala the Self that is absolute and unquestionable compassion that the shameful part responds to - because it's like jesus or god or a utterly non-judgemental and infinitly loving being that is perfectly caring and ok with parts of us that we thought noone could ever, in a million years - accept and love without condition or limit

  • @SeaSerenity
    @SeaSerenity 11 днів тому

    Baseball cap 🧢