Milwaukee's New Line Wrenches vs Professional Tools Mac, Snap-On, Proto
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2023
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Today we test the new Milwaukee Flarenut Wrenches 48-22-9471 & 48-22-9470 vs what are traditional known to be accepted "pro" options such as Mac Tool, Snap-On & Proto along with ranking against the long list of entries we've tested already.
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Not sure why sorting bumped the Proto to the bottom when we got to the final ranking, with 9.13 that puts it 3rd overall. We added a card at that point to see the top 10 and updated the rankings correctly for those of you with our rankings. For its price it is a stand-out worth highlighting. Options have been added to our list of tools that don't suck: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel
Milwaukee wrenches is not new, I got a whole SAE set years ago
@@jlrockafella According to Milwaukee line wrenches are an all new offering. What model number is your Milwaukee flarenut wrench set?
He's probably talking about some other wrench set. Not Line Wrenches specifically.
hey torque test, i got a good idea for another video which socket brand will slip first and don't
We've tested thier wrenches. Also finish around top 20%. Taiwan made
Watching this at work now, hope I can convince the boss it’s market research 😂
That’s how I felt when I was shopping for utility knives during some downtime im a paramedic so it should be work research😂
Toolporn... NSFW !!! 😮
Same but my grandmother is my boss. She gets Lippy ill have to give her a german suplex.
Plot twist... Alex is a software engineer.
Bring it to true action would be buying the Boss a new set of wrenches for you to use
Seems like the Proto is the way to go for me on this set. Sick of my Gearwrench flexing.
Agreed, sorry for the ordering at the end. Proto 3rd place, 9.13 points. $28/wrench puts it in a high performance middle ground there
@@TorqueTestChannel I was wondering where Proto went!
I switched to Proto for my flare nut wrenches after dealing with a series of cheap Taiwanese and Chinese wrenches. It’s a night and day difference. I don’t use them that often so I was hesitant to spend the money. Now that I have, however, I’m very happy I did.
Keep an eye out for Wright. They can be found cheaper than proto
Wright > Proto
As an apprentice in Australia (2006-2010), a common job was fuel filters on BA-BF falcons, notoriously soft flare nuts, over torqued AF from factory. I bought myself some Sidchrome (a brand known for being good when they were locally made) flare pipe spanners, used them twice, then got the snap on ones. No regrets. Flare nut spanners are meant to remove flare nuts, not flare out at the slightest sign of resistance.
100% agree. There are plenty of good alternatives to *most* things snap on makes...but I have yet to find a set of flare nut wrenches as good as my snap ons.
I bought Jimy brand about 15 years ago for working on rusty and overtightened Datsun brake lines, and yet to have a failure on anything that would have moved with a different brand.
Just did one today on my BA Ute, the fuel tank side nut rounded off with a Repco wrench. Had to cut it off with the oxy and replace it.
@kristiandavis repco used to be professional grade tools aswell. Many older mechanics have boxes full of them. New repco is home gamer stuff
I have the old old Snap-On double flair but wrenches that my grandpa passed on to me. They’re amazing!
Brilliant testing. Milwaukee hand tools have become one of my go to "best bang for the buck" tools
Right I want good quality but not paying hundreds for one wrench set
Proto has always been an overlooked quality tool brand. All of my 3/4” & 1” drive impact sockets as well as large wrenches are Proto.
Wright > Proto
For the little tiny flare nuts I encounter (bikes), I use a Park Tool 7 & 9mm (unknown Taiwanese maker) and Stahlwille (German, obvs) 8 &10mm. The Stahlwille was AUD$80 (USD$50), but I use it the most often, sometimes on steel nuts seized into delicate aluminium calipers and master cylinders, so a good fit and strength over a small range of movement and size is important.
What grinds my gears: stickers on everything. To manufacturers everywhere STOP IT! Put the 0.1% you save from omitting stickers back into your products material quality.
I agree on the stickers to be annoying but they can usually be removed very easily with a bit of WD-40.
@@vibeslide I just bought a 15mm gear wrench combination wrench, acetone wouldn't touch the sticker residue.
proto looks like the real winner when looking at price to performance, really impressive
Yes, despite being rudely ignored when our overall ranking ordered these at the end. 9.13, 3rd, for $28 a wrench makes it in a bit of a sweet spot.
Not even on the list
For those who don't know, Milwaukee just built a big factory outside of Grenada Mississippi. Maybe they are going to start bringing tools back to being made in the USA, They were on a hiring spree, if anyone is close to that area and looking for a job.
As far as I know (Milwaukee employee) they are just expanding the manufacturing of tools already made in Greenwood Mississippi. Namely sawzall blades. I will be transferred to Grenada when that plant does open.
Something rarely mentioned here is the bevel from the outside to the mating surface.
The matco has nearly NO bevel. More contact.
I often grid the side of my line wrenches flat, as well as my sockets to get that last mm or so of purchase. Worth measuring/testing
I have their standard and metric combination wrenches. I love them and use them every day.
Perfect timing, going to be doing a ton of fuel lines on my truck here soon!
Thanks for covering these, good info for further purchases! Keep up the good work! 💪🏻💪🏻😎😎🛠️🛠️
Good stuff as always! That's a lot of work gathering tools and going through all those fasteners.
I was hoping to see the Proto do well and was not disappointed! Never have been with their tools, honestly.
Cornwell would have been a good one to try.
I’ll keep my Snap-On set but it’s really impressive that Milwaukee can hang with wrenches that cost 4x the price.
I love my older craftsman tools, but there's something about my S/O flare nut wrenches that really makes them a joy to use. I've taken off some REALLY boogered up fittings with those things, even after someone else has mangled the flats with an open end wrench before handing the problem off to me. 😂
Cornwell has the best line wrench i have used
Thanks for confirming what I've been telling people for a long time: MAC line wrenches fit better than Snap-on!
I even mentioned this in the comment section of your first flare nut wrench video
Keep the videos coming 👍🏾👋🏾
I still want to see knipex raptor pliers tested among flare nut wrenches...
I have a Snap On and it's excellent . Yes just a 16 / 18 metric . On the Proto , if you look closely , it only contacts a hex nut on 4 corners . I think they would increase performance if they change to a 5 corner contact , like their competitors . Combined with the close tolerances , it would rival Snap On . I have old Craftsman from the 1970's and it has 4 corner contact . But overall , the Milwaukee is a great value .
Fantastic, as always
I really like your channel. It's helped me choose what tools to get. I would like to see you test Cornwell flare nut wrenches. I would like to see how they compare to the ones you've tested. Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for the detail!
are you ever planing on torque testing a hydraulicly powered impact
Your test is never disappointing and are always on point. I'm thinking maybe you should include brand from Taiwan and England such as sata and Kennedy. Price wise Kennedy is really fair for its industrial quality
Been waiting on these.
I’ve been hooked on Proto for about 5 years now. Can’t beat ‘em for the money.
Great video as always. Thanks for everything you do their.(try out the Texton brand)
Tekton doesn't have flarenut wrenches in wrench form
MORE EDC GEAR TESTS. Been watching y'all for a very long time
Please test impact air ratchets. Loving the content.
I love my Milwaukee wrenches. I got like four sets. But If I could do it over I’d get Proto hands down.
Just happy to see my SK brand still in the top 10 lol
Great job man!
Video idea: A somewhat outdated conventional wisdom was to buy 12point socket sets so you could handle both 6pt and 12pt bolts. Now people typically recommend 6 point sockets. But are there any 12point sockets that could serve as a primary socket set without increasing the incidence of rounded off bolts? Brands of interest, all of the usual suspect plus Koken Japanese made sockets.
they've already done a 6pt vs 12pt vs spline drive test. spline drive was the best but 12pt wasnt much worse, and 6pt is near useless compared to the hassle involved with it
@@bradhaines3142 I think they've only done 12pt vs 6pt on wrenches rather than sockets. You'd think the results would be similar, but if there is one thing TTC videos have shown it's that assumptions are often wrong. ua-cam.com/video/pX4uHYEPOuY/v-deo.html
@@bradhaines3142 There's just no way at all you can extend the comparison to sockets, especially if you're looking to get the job done already and put them on your impact to do it. 12 point is just BEGGING for trouble. That said, once you have rounded it with the 12 point, the 6 point MAY still be able to save your ass. BTDT
I'd like to see more comparisons with rusted fastener heads but i recognize the difficulty in corroding them in any way like how they go on a car.
@@bradhaines3142Those were wrenches...
The way I see it is why bother with 12p Sockets when you can just rotate the 6p a little bit 🤷♂️
Only ever find the 12 point convenient on spanners
Can you test the Milwaukee combination wrench set? I havent seen these tested among the other combination wrenches on other channels and im very curious! Thanks!
With flare nut wrenches I would say snap on, mac, matco, or proto all the way the Milwaukee is a ehhh just my opinion As a mechanic
For a professional, Snap On or Mac are undoubtedly the way to go. For a DIYer like myself I have to think into what I want to spend. Im considering the Proto set unless I can find a used Snap on set. Strange that Mac and Proto are under the same parent company but their wrenches performed differently.
Yet another video that makes me want to tryout Proto...
Really hope you can test out some of the Nepros spanners and gear
I got a set of Anbull ratcheting flexhead flarenut wrenches, so far have been very very useful when I need them. I'm very curious though on what kind of performance they have.
I’ve had a set of Proto flare wrenches for 18 years.
Never felt the need to replace them.
would love to see the crows foot style flare nuts in these comparisons as well!
I have a 30 year old set of the Mac wrenches and I can attest to the quality. They’re still my go to line wrenches.
i am glad to know there are some good flare nut wrenches out there. I have an old set of Craftsman, and they are totally junk. The jaws spread out on every brake line I have ever tried them on.
What happened to the proto on the final chart? Got a 9.13 and disappeared 😂. Great work as always.
Great video thanks for sharing
Test slip joint pliers for grip
I have had great experiences with Wright brand. I think in combination wrenches they performed top 3 overall (if not #1) still a great American made tool brand that I don't think many people know about or consider.
Do you guys get “Tone” in the US?
Good flare wrenches !
Hey TTC, I have a ProjectFarm-style test right up your alley…if you haven’t done it already.
Torque text thread locker!
Different brands, colors and cute times. You might also consider testing similar/dissimilar metals, grades, coatings and treatments.
Is there one thread locker or brand to rule them all?
🤔🤷♂️
Can you measure the difference in clearance after use? Sure some material from the wrench will be removed, squashed or it will spread but won't return to new. Interested to know if heavy use makes them worse overtime and more likely to slip
That would be interesting. It would arguably be better to have a spanner just break instead of deforming spread open, if it still looked okay but but the tolerances are not what they use to be you would likely continue to use it and constantly round fasteners over until you throw it away
Still eagerly waiting to see testing on those new Texas made Craftsman wrenches whenever they come out
Flare nut wrenches are used for one purpose and one purpose only. Flare nuts are generally made of a brass alloy that do not need the excessive force that these tests the wrenches underwent. In a nutshell, the most practical flare nut wrench is one with tight tolerance and ample length, regardless of the cost.
Great video!
I have some very old Mac ones I bought at a yard sale as well as some metric Stahlwille ones I bought in Germany. I also have some special application ones made of billet 7075 aluminum that my friend made for me at the machine shop that are specifically for AN hard lines which have aluminum nuts. Cut with waterjet then finished, and all different thickness as well for different size AN lines. The Macs get the most use as most of my cars have had SAE fasteners only. The custom ones also get a fair bit of use and the Stahlwilles mostly get used on my 79 subaru although slowly but surely the metric brake hardware on that car is being replaced with a combination of SAE hard line fittings and AN hose. Just much easier to find around here. Metric to AN brake fittings are almost impossible to find where I live, and I really hate buying fittings online. It's less work to just convert most of the fittings to SAE. But with both the Mac and Stahlwille, if it didn't move it wasn't going to move without destroying the nut anyway.
Good to know. Milwaukee for home & if that doesn't do it, I'll bring the snappy from work
Cornwell , wright tool flare nut wrenches next?
Icon icon ICONNNNN 😂we want to see the whole line tested
Haha they have to make Icon line wrenches 1st
I'd love to see some torque tests of screwdrivers
I’ve had my MAC sets in SAE and metric since 1988 and have really misused them with zero problems.
I would think that a ratcheting line wrench shoot-out would be entertaining. One commenter mentions the anbul ratcheting line wrench set. When I search online, I see all different kinds of ratcheting line wrenches using different ratcheting styles. Down that rabbit hole search I also discovered all kinds of self adjusting wrenches and other just really gimmicky wrenches. I would enjoy watching that shootout. Thanks! I never thought I would enjoy watching impact wrenches duke it out but here I am.
I want to see the the new snap on 88 series ratchet. I have the 26” or whatever 1/2” dr flex head.
My first tool truck ratchet. And it feels fucking amazing. Never had such a smooth ratchet. Loosing lug nuts is so easy now. Feels like it’s a 10mm and a 3/8 dewalt ratchet.
I was hoping to see some Wright wrenches in here
Will you do a video like this but with Milwaukee's sockets both the shockwave and the chrome ones VS Snap-on VS Craftsman VS Icon ?
I'm curious how the duratech ones would perform on your testing. They have really good reviews and the price is hard to beat at under $50 for a 10 piece set.
@TorqueTestChannel curious how any of these would fair on a smaller line such as brake lines in the wrench size of 3/8” or 7/16”. I’ve always found those to be a particularly difficult task especially on older rusted lines on 60’s drum brakes. My USA Craftsman’s do okay and my Mac crowfoot line wrenches well in tight spaces.
Never tried any of their wrenches or ratchets but I picked up a set of their impact sockets awhile back and really like how they do the lettering on them. Now would that inlaid white paint last very long in a mechanics bay, I don’t know but for a weekend wrencher it’s nice how easy they are to read.
Haven't used them for myself but I really like the design, because they're nice and legible like most painted sockets, however 1) the painted parts being inset makes it more difficult to get rubbed off (at least I would think), and 2) even when it does get rubbed off, there's still numbers physically on the socket so you can still tell what size is what. Seems pretty smart to me.
Use Milwaukee sockets and wrenches on a daily basis repairing tractor trailers. Don't personally like their pliers, but everything else has been great
As a professional who has used most of these brands, the only one that absolutely doesn't fail is the snap on. If the Snap On won't get it off, none of the wrenches will
I'd hope snap on makes good tools. I mean jesus christ you have to sacrifice a pure lamb to the gods to be able to afford them
@@Nick-bb4nk You're right about that one.
@@notsevenfeettall You must be The Flare Nut Whisperer.
I will say though, that depending on who was making them for Autozone at the time, duralast has had some damn decent tools in their line.
@Ben That’s an interesting point. Yes, they are expensive but you’ll get your use out of them and not have to worry. You won’t have to buy another set when you find the cheap ones you bought aren’t up to the task. If you want to, you can turn around and sell them for darn near what the cost.
Based on the torture testing the Milwaukee would do 99% of people plenty of justice anyway. You dont use these in place of a torque wrench or impact. The amount of money wasted on Snappy is insane. I have matco craftsman and snapon and others. I rarely ever break a tool, and those are always the cheapest of cheap. The key is using the right tool for the job anyway. For the guys that say itc convenience with the driver. Its not. Every mechanic i know has 2 of every tool and goes to Home Depot regularly, so it's simple to exchange any lifetime warranty tool. Some strap-on tools may be worth it, but most of them are mechanics status symbols, just like the stupid expensive tool boxes. I know friends of mine with boxes over a quarter million in tools and nothing in the bank. Retarded!
Please review gray tools out of Canada
The stickers come off really easily once you've dropped it into a drain pan full of oil 😅
Curious how westward does. I know back in the day (80s to 90s) My dad swore by them for the price performance they offered, and the full warranty. Not sure how they do now, probably like the new craftsman stuff hahaha Jet and Gray tools are other brands that Id be interested in seeing done
Great job again guys!
I have some westward stuff and never really had a problem.
Do you have any videos on the v series wrenches craftsman line, i heard it was a direct facom rebrand
According to rankings it looks like, if you're starting out and are regularly using them for work, they are a great option. If you keep in mind that if you are trying to truly max something out, maybe try a second wrench and or borrowing a snap on or mac, if you can only fit one. Although I wouldn't be shocked if the owner makes you leave your phone or wallet as collateral.
wallet every time, i dont play
How significant is Milwaukee's struggle on the partially rounded nuts? Many wrenches below it maxed out.
The average wrench calculates to a 7 and 7.7, it is ranked with a 5 and 7
Great video, and I know it's the torque test channel, but it seems like the most emphasis should be on the appearance of a flare nut once tightened to spec. In my experience, the best way to ruin air and fluid connections is to over tighten them. And because it is often on a project, appearance is as important as correctness. I would like to see which wrench least blemishes a brass nut at a set torque.
Does wright make a flare nut wrench kit?
Anyone who's dealt with what they thought was an impossible task that was effortless realizes the snapon flare wrench is unbeatable. You will use it rarely but it will never fail you when you need it.
A snapon flare wrench has never ruined a fitting for me. It will spin the connector and destroy the line before it strips the fastener
Unless it's rusty LOL
@@BassManStrikes if they're like caked and flakey rust and arrent an 11mm but now exist somewhere around a 9.5mm then no. Good luck with that. Lol8
How many times did you end up testing the soft nuts etc?
Please please do a best ratcheting screwdriver
Make sure to include the Williams which is my personal favorite. As well as snap on and LTT. Wera too just to Se them place low
Vessel of Japan make a fantastic ratcheting screwdriver. Check out the TD-6816 model.
Just a note, the green text is harder to read on your chart. At least on my screen. Great testing love you did the wrenches.
While shopping for an electric mower I noticed torque is one of the main things they advertise. You gotta figure out a way to test them!
You should test this "Ingersoll Rand Power Tools" 1" cordless impact similar to the D Handle
We have!
@@TorqueTestChannel Oh shoot, that's on me for not keeping up! Sorry about that!
I just bought a couple set of ratcheting combo wrench of theirs for 79 a set, I'm actually surprised how nice they are. I haven't ratcheted anything yet, but they do feel nice in the hand.
Would love to see a video comparing different ratchet sets. I mostly do hobby stuff but still got frustrated by cheap sets from Bahco and the like, the ratchet would invariably break and slip eventually. The other day I had to tinker on a military vehicle and I borrowed a ratchet set from the Sgt. at the shop, I think it was a Wera set, 1/4" ratchet, bits and sockets. Wow, was it ever nice and tight, I thought I'd go and get a set for myself. €1100... yeah maybe not. Settled for Gedore which was spendy but still reasonable, and has served me well so far.
These comparison videos are invaluable when shopping... More expensive doesn't always mean better, and knowing which brands are cheap but good (enough) saves hundreds of €/$
I just got some milwaukee ratcheting wrenches YESTERDAY!!! Haven't used them, but they do feel and look great.
@Kaasmeester
I just replaced a couple of Wera joker wrenches that were stolen with milwaukee.
Haven't turned the milwaukee yet, but they feel good.
Hey the flex mid torque is out and available from acme(600ft lbs and 750 breakaway). Also I’m curious if the high torque makes more with stacked lithium. I have a 6ah battery if you wanna use it.
Available for pre-order*
Why does the Proto disappear from the final ranking chart?
Doing the lords work
I think I would lean towards the Williams based on the performance on a rounded fastener over the Milwaukee.
For DIY, Milwaukee nailed it.
Very nice!
By getting rid of garbage inch, feet... also known as freedumb measures, you can cut the tooling cost by at least two ! Not to mention avoiding confusion, seized bolts, rounded heads etc....
C'mon over to this giant industrial complex of manufacturing, and develop a workable plan for the _entire_ supply chain that is acceptable by *all* parties, and we'll do it.
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Why do quite a lot of physicists and other scientists still use the imperial system instead of the metric system in their lectures or appearances on TV shows?
Because Americans are idiots.
And if you want to speak to idiots and not have them panic, you need to use idiotic terminology.
Americans are idiots in this regard because once upon a time they were taught the metric system by laboriously converting from Imperial to metric. Why would anyone ever want to do this? If you want to use metric, make your original measurements in metric. Making measurements in Imperial and then converting them to metric is what caused the Mars Observer spacecraft to disappear.
Just rip off the damn Band-aid. Switch to metric and never use Imperial any more. People will get comfortable with it soon enough. All you really need is an intuitive sense of about how big things are and that comes from actually using the system, not by whiling away the hours converting between systems. That’s something that is easy to grade on a test but is in fact totally useless.
The Imperial system is not easier, it is just more familiar. The solution to that problem is to make metric equally familiar.
Do you have in your "to test list" Torx sockets and wrenches ?
I really wish their was a better selection of Brick&Mortar stores that sold tools .
They need undersized ones for rusty fittings, like a 11.75 for a rusty 12mm. These only work well on new or pristine ones that dont see winter salt....
Milwaukee is professional grade and good for the price it seems like ! In australia theres heaps less brands around unless you go to some botique shops, or want to order things in without being able to see it first. I just wish more companies made spanner sets that were gapless and the full range eg 6 to 32 in a combo spanner. and not skipping
I'm very impressed by the Mac set, to the point that I'll be looking for a set for SAE to match my Snappy Metrics. I'm very impressed with Milwaukee's showing, with a caveat. Being in the rust belt, the poor score on the rounded fasteners is a big "No" for me.
I scrolled past an article the other day, I don't remember which site so I probably won't have luck finding it again, not that the article would have much relevance to anything here, but the topic of it was metal 3D printing wrenches. Which now makes me curious, with metallic additive manufacturing quickly becoming a thing, and with metal blends definitely being a thing, I wonder if additive manufacturing could eventually find optimizations that forging, or even cutting sheet stock, lacks. I also believe that additive manufacturing will provide highly accurate tolerance, as there's not really a tool to wear out, at least not at the time scale that forge tools and routing bits wear at. Manufacturing scale may also be an eventual benefit given that build volumes, especially for 2.5D (stepped z axis layers, not true 3D movement), can be fairly small and easily stacked, while individual piece times might lack bulk manufacturing times could easily excel, and while initial print farm costs might be high they also don't need individual tools for each piece nor a wearing tool like subtractive manufacturing has; 3D printing farms for various plastic parts are already showing viability for this method of manufacturing scale, have for some number of years now. Give it another decade and I wouldn't be surprised if there's some brands taking this approach at a reasonable scale, assuming they're not stuck in the past and are actually willing to accept newer manufacturing methods.
What about Cornwell. I don’t see those on here much or at all.