My brother had a farm equipment repair shop he had a 4020 John Deere there that he did a lot of work on the bill was over 4000 dollars and the tractor sat there for over 4years and the owner wanted more work done on it but my brother told him he had to pay for the work done because a lot of that was parts anyway my brother died in an accident and his son was trying to take care of things the guy that owned the 4020 showed up and said he was taking the tractor my brother’s son told him he was not taking it the guy comes back with 2 cops and my brothers son told them the story he had a sign in his shop that said any thing there than 30 days a 10 dollar a day storage fee the cops told the guy you have to pay the storage the guy got mad and said keep the tractor
Good for you Dave! Surprised you didnt implement this 30 day policy sooner. You are only one man and have a life. Your a nice guy and they always suffer the most.
Business is business. Thirty days is a good timeline. Concerning a possible later deal, claim money for storage and a new enddate. Congratulations on your next step in life!
You have given them a year to get the tractor's, that is more than enough time. I bought a loader from a guy and I ended up in the hospital. I paid him for it and I finally told him that I was not going to be able to get it picked up and to resale it because I didn't know when I could get it. I told him it wasn't his fault but mine and he just made $200.00 because I couldn't get it in a timely fashion. You can also put in the sale agreement that you have 30 days to pick it up and if it is not there will be a $20.00 a day storage fee. Good luck. I do enjoy your videos and congratulations on your upcoming wedding.
I would suggest payment upfront. Give them a month to collect. If not collected after a month then charge a storage fee. If not collected after say 3 months resell them.
You need to charge him storage. Because that's what they do here and Iowa. If something's sitting over a certain time, they start charging you storage in a storage is probably already more than what they paid for the equipment. So I would say the equipment is yours
I've been there Dave. From best I and tell and understand first day of spring on the calendar. Your clear you have been responsible. Time to shit or get off the pot . Just be at peace in your own mind . So when you lay down at night you have a clear consciousn. And that's all you can do . I've been there and will never be again thanks for sharing. And CONGRATULATIONS on the marriage
Most auctions I've purchased from is 14 days or 30 days to pickup then after the time frame it's 25 a day storage fee then after 60 days you forfeit your money with no refund. I live in Texas and purchased tractors in Nebraska Kansas and Iowa and had zero issues very friendly fols up north
I'm not telling you how to do business make it 30-day non-refundable deposit equipment goes back on the lot for sale after 30 days and they lose their deposit
It’s been long enough now that once you give them a deadline if they don’t come get them then the tractors are yours to do with what you wish and I wouldn’t give any money back keep the money for storage fees and they can get over it
Some individuals don't have the same passion, but are "impulse buying" and then rethinking. Have purchasers put down a 25% deposit that is forfeited after say 30 days when they don't pick it up....1 year.. !?!? Too long 30 days tops... Sometimes you gotta have rules...!!! I was a nice guy and got taken advantage of when I ran a business....In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash....We All have issues to deal with, but business is business, not a charity....
I tend to not let things worry me. If its paid for Im Ok with it being here. I once sold a guy in Califorina a V 12 lincoln engine. He asked how long to come get it? I stated its yours until I die then it will get sold at my estate auction. I sold a guy in New York a Running driving 59 ford Ranchero. He paid cash and I never heard a peep from him in almost a decade. He called and came with a car hauler. He was dissapointed it wasnt running the tires where flat and it had gone downhill. I put it on the hauler with my wrecker and sold him a 72 chevy pickup.
I would just re sell all those tractors to someone else, and I would not bother to give any of those guys their money back, at this point I would call that a storage fee. You likely missed out on selling these tractors to someone else while you where storing them.
If they paid with a check can you pull a copy of the check from your bank or credit union and send them a certified letter to the address from the check copy?
Give them a final date to pick up if that doesn't happen send them to scrap and pocket the cash. They had plenty of time to get their stuff so you snooze you lose.
Storage fee seems fair. Post on this video to pin at the top a list of trucking companies you know are fair to use to get equipment around the country. I suspect the buyers were all in it until they found out what the trucking expense was (so high!) and then abandoned the projects, two or three tractors hauled on a hot-shot trailer to the east coast was probably quite a lot (maybe with cooling competitive trucking industry the prices have lowered recently vs before?). The Allis Chalmers forum has frequent thread updates from a guy who transports old tractors regularly stating he has a run to some area and if you are on the way he can grab something extra, and extras have included non-orange and non-tractor things like Model Ts.
Give set timeline to pickup the goods set at the sale date, then a per day charge after that date. The higher the better for motivational purposes. If they can’t pick it up or contact you after a timeline agreement it’s yours and possibly a bill. Simple contract
Very fair rant mate you seem like the kind of person who would always put their neck on the line to help someone out, if you give some people an inch, they will always take a mile, time to be firm you're running a business.
I bought a tractor a few states away and told the guy it may be a few months before I could get it. He said fine and I had it picked up a few months later. People need to stay in contact with each other and make changes that both parties agree with if necessary. A second phone number may help if it's an older person or bad health situation. Leave each other plenty of info.
Congratulations on your upcoming matrimony. Don't feel bad if they don't pick up their stuff and your ultimatum is to return their money. That's crazy (D) reasonable.
Fellow Kansan here. First of all, congratulations on your upcoming wedding, and my understanding of state law is if not paid within 30 days the item will be sold, period. Only speaking for myself, anytime I purchase something, I bring the means of collecting and removing the items in question at the time of the sale.
You've given them every opportunity to come get those tractors. Now You've given them a deadline in the form of a video. I think I'd go a step further and send them a registered return receipt letter with the terms stated in this video. I wouldn't give them a refund. It's abandoned property taking up space on your land. Sort of like when you don't pay for a storage unit, after a time the storage company auctions off the contents. This also coincides with my motto on life. "Every time I give someone a break, I go broke."
I wouldnt normally comment on any business structure but i will say this..... Almost any and every shop i have ever walked into had a sign on the wall saying you have 30 days from the time your item is sold to you or you have been notified your item is fixed to be picked up. Day 31 starts a storage fee daily and after 60 or 90 its the shops to do with what they like.
Id start with doing proper sales registration, dated bill of sale with name, signature, adress and creditcard info on it. If the deal includes a one month pickup time note that clearly, and include a XX amount of money on top of the purchase price that gets returned to the customer if they pick up the goods within the agreed period, AND include a statement that every item left on your property after lets say 3 months past the "end of pickup period" gets sold for scrap. You are a commercial business, every square foot of space needs to make u money, keeping other peoples shit on your property doesnt do anything for you.
what is morally right, and what is legal may or may not be the same thing. If they are still up in the air at this point, I would have a certified letter sent to them with a 30 days from date of receipt to either start paying exorbitant storage fees, or retrieve it in that 30 days. After the 30 days if they have not done those things, then sell. Document everything. You may drop the Fordson off in my driveway 50 miles west of ya... LOL
Had a neighbor asked me if he could. Store some stuff here for 30 days he was moving and had 2 days get his stuff out .i have 3 trailers and a 32 foot camp trailer full equipment .its been over year and half he picked up.camp trailer yoday .I told him i was going to use the stuff if left here in 30 days .He never even saod thank you
Crazy D, did you happen to ask that lawyer if you were entitled to charge these people for storage costs for these tractors? If not, it might be worth asking them if that is something you can bill as storage fees to current date to these people, and tell them in the letter that you send the people who haven't picked up these tractors, that they have to pay the storage fees for these tractors and have 30 days to pick up the equipment or it will be sold. That's what I would recommend. If you are entitled to charge storage fees, and they don't want to pay, then you can forward them to a debt collection agency and get your storage fees back from them.
You need to get a lawyer to write something up. So it's legal. Give them 60 days to pick it up. Or all money paid will be refunded and will go back on a lot for sale again.
if i were you, i'd maybe tell them 3 times to come pick it up, after that i'd sell them. i'd keep records of the messages i sent and received, and if they didn't come get their stuff within the timeframe i gave them when reminding them for the third and last time,i'd sell them on to someone else. also i would NOT pay them anything if they came back later with proof of purchase. ii'd simply send them copies of the records i kept
I would call both of them and tell them final warning. They have to be picked up between such and such dates or they will forfeit their tractors and any and all money paid for the tractors. End of story.
Don't know if you can contact them? I had to reset my u tube the other day. Since then many things are not coming up like they did before. This is the first video of yours since the reset. Don't know if this could be part of the problem?
Ran into this with my mother when my grandmother passed away in 17. There where the three kids, my mother and her 2 oldest brothers. The family farm was split between the three and there was some of their equipment on her part. She in turn said 6 weeks and that was it but kept adding on time and nothing was ever done till ultimately dad and I said by the end of February of 21 that’s was it, if the equipment wasn’t off property then it would be sold or scrapped and that’s what we did when we got to it. So in short give a time frame and when reaching that limit remind them and once at that limit reach one last time and then proceed from there.
in wisconsin i have sold some stuff got paid THEN the people would NOT talk to me would NOT return my calls so i sold the stuff again and pot the money in a envelope for them BUT i waited 6 months of no calls before i sold them again!
I wonder if you could treat them like a mechanic does when a customer cant afford the repairs or has given up on the vehicle. At some point, after you designate some time frame to pick them up, you should be able to do what you want with them.
If i was closer, I would be on my way to buy that center exhaust SC! But, yes I also agree on the 30 days to pick up or they will be resold, and put that in bright red bold letters on the sales receipt so they can't say...well I didn't see that part.
First off, what part of kansas? Second. Dont offer they money back, all that is gonna do is give them an out without losing. You stored them, you delt with the hastle, the tractors have been forfeited, the money is collected as storage fees.
I would think it would fall under abandoned property, they left it on your property and has dropped out of contact,,,,, it's not like a car or boat has a title,,,, talk to that lawyer again, there are diffent laws for differnt situations
Been in your situation before, now at my lot I have a 30/60 rule, 30 days to pickup, after 30 a $20 per day storage fee, and after 60 I own it. When I do an auction it's a 15/30 rule. Of course I have exceptions but not without a plan in writing. Anyway thanks for all your videos!
Resell them or scrap them you went above and beyond with kindness keeping them this long. But I do hate the word scrap but sometimes you have to do what you’ve Gotta do.
You got nothing wrong with what you want to do. They put you off and put you off so many times. The 30 days is well within your rights. Come get it or it's going away
sold a car years ago..I live in Ontario Canada.same thing..contacted lawyer was told I had to keep car in same shape until the Dincus may arrive to pu vehicle.
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My brother had a farm equipment repair shop he had a 4020 John Deere there that he did a lot of work on the bill was over 4000 dollars and the tractor sat there for over 4years and the owner wanted more work done on it but my brother told him he had to pay for the work done because a lot of that was parts anyway my brother died in an accident and his son was trying to take care of things the guy that owned the 4020 showed up and said he was taking the tractor my brother’s son told him he was not taking it the guy comes back with 2 cops and my brothers son told them the story he had a sign in his shop that said any thing there than 30 days a 10 dollar a day storage fee the cops told the guy you have to pay the storage the guy got mad and said keep the tractor
LOVE THIS REPLY!
always get a signed repair order !
You warned them repeatedly Dave, now it's time for you to get out of them what you can.
Nobody wants them…. Scrap
Do what u gotta do don't throw stones just saying good rant by the way give money back if they show scrap & move on cheers d 😊
Crazy D, 2$ a day "storage fee" should make you even steven and free to dispose of them.
@don66hotrod94 that's a good idea.
Good for you Dave! Surprised you didnt implement this 30 day policy sooner. You are only one man and have a life. Your a nice guy and they always suffer the most.
Business is business. Thirty days is a good timeline. Concerning a possible later deal, claim money for storage and a new enddate. Congratulations on your next step in life!
You have given them a year to get the tractor's, that is more than enough time. I bought a loader from a guy and I ended up in the hospital. I paid him for it and I finally told him that I was not going to be able to get it picked up and to resale it because I didn't know when I could get it. I told him it wasn't his fault but mine and he just made $200.00 because I couldn't get it in a timely fashion. You can also put in the sale agreement that you have 30 days to pick it up and if it is not there will be a $20.00 a day storage fee. Good luck. I do enjoy your videos and congratulations on your upcoming wedding.
I would suggest payment upfront.
Give them a month to collect.
If not collected after a month then charge a storage fee. If not collected after say 3 months resell them.
Owners could of passed away without anyone knowing of the purchase.
New marriage and KIDS in the house. That will be your biggest problem. 🤣🤣😂
Mistake....
The short of the matter is 30 days to pick it up. That is more than fair.
Alabama
Yup 😊
It's been almost a year. Take them back. Your time is worth something.
Be true to yourself and the business! You said it straight up!!! Well done.
You need to charge him storage. Because that's what they do here and Iowa. If something's sitting over a certain time, they start charging you storage in a storage is probably already more than what they paid for the equipment. So I would say the equipment is yours
I've been there Dave. From best I and tell and understand first day of spring on the calendar. Your clear you have been responsible. Time to shit or get off the pot . Just be at peace in your own mind . So when you lay down at night you have a clear consciousn. And that's all you can do . I've been there and will never be again thanks for sharing. And CONGRATULATIONS on the marriage
I think you give them more than enough time so I would resell them
Most auctions I've purchased from is 14 days or 30 days to pickup then after the time frame it's 25 a day storage fee then after 60 days you forfeit your money with no refund. I live in Texas and purchased tractors in Nebraska Kansas and Iowa and had zero issues very friendly fols up north
I'm not telling you how to do business make it 30-day non-refundable deposit equipment goes back on the lot for sale after 30 days and they lose their deposit
It’s been long enough now that once you give them a deadline if they don’t come get them then the tractors are yours to do with what you wish and I wouldn’t give any money back keep the money for storage fees and they can get over it
Some individuals don't have the same passion, but are "impulse buying" and then rethinking. Have purchasers put down a 25% deposit that is forfeited after say 30 days when they don't pick it up....1 year.. !?!? Too long 30 days tops... Sometimes you gotta have rules...!!! I was a nice guy and got taken advantage of when I ran a business....In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash....We All have issues to deal with, but business is business, not a charity....
I tend to not let things worry me. If its paid for Im Ok with it being here. I once sold a guy in Califorina a V 12 lincoln engine. He asked how long to come get it? I stated its yours until I die then it will get sold at my estate auction. I sold a guy in New York a Running driving 59 ford Ranchero. He paid cash and I never heard a peep from him in almost a decade. He called and came with a car hauler. He was dissapointed it wasnt running the tires where flat and it had gone downhill. I put it on the hauler with my wrecker and sold him a 72 chevy pickup.
I would just re sell all those tractors to someone else, and I would not bother to give any of those guys their money back, at this point I would call that a storage fee. You likely missed out on selling these tractors to someone else while you where storing them.
If they paid with a check can you pull a copy of the check from your bank or credit union and send them a certified letter to the address from the check copy?
Give them a final date to pick up if that doesn't happen send them to scrap and pocket the cash. They had plenty of time to get their stuff so you snooze you lose.
CD, keep the
Tractors and sell them again. You’re an honest man.
Storage fee seems fair. Post on this video to pin at the top a list of trucking companies you know are fair to use to get equipment around the country. I suspect the buyers were all in it until they found out what the trucking expense was (so high!) and then abandoned the projects, two or three tractors hauled on a hot-shot trailer to the east coast was probably quite a lot (maybe with cooling competitive trucking industry the prices have lowered recently vs before?). The Allis Chalmers forum has frequent thread updates from a guy who transports old tractors regularly stating he has a run to some area and if you are on the way he can grab something extra, and extras have included non-orange and non-tractor things like Model Ts.
Give set timeline to pickup the goods set at the sale date, then a per day charge after that date. The higher the better for motivational purposes. If they can’t pick it up or contact you after a timeline agreement it’s yours and possibly a bill. Simple contract
Will you sell me the lp 706 tractor
Resell the dam things
Very fair rant mate you seem like the kind of person who would always put their neck on the line to help someone out, if you give some people an inch, they will always take a mile, time to be firm you're running a business.
Send certified letters with a date if no response sell or junk them
Start to charge a storage fee like an impound lot they are in your way and give them a time frame and if not picked up by then it's yours
Time to resell them. I would keep the money paid also for all the hassle and frustration you’ve dealt with.
Charge 'em storage
Exactly
I think you gave them a fair warning about picking up their tractor by April 2. How much for the Fordson tractor and the center exhaust Case SC?
Alright already. Big guy. Easy. Take a breath.
I know in Iowa that's considered abandoned and after a certain amount of time they are yours. You can also go after them for storage fees in Iowa.
I have 3 old tractors and i love them if someone can’t make time in a year they don’t deserve to have those nice old tractors
I bought a tractor a few states away and told the guy it may be a few months before I could get it. He said fine and I had it picked up a few months later. People need to stay in contact with each other and make changes that both parties agree with if necessary. A second phone number may help if it's an older person or bad health situation. Leave each other plenty of info.
Put time limits in writing from here on out. East coast guy=Dave owns them. Other state guy gets $200 back if shows up complaining.
Congratulations on your upcoming matrimony.
Don't feel bad if they don't pick up their stuff and your ultimatum is to return their money. That's crazy (D) reasonable.
Fellow Kansan here. First of all, congratulations on your upcoming wedding, and my understanding of state law is if not paid within 30 days the item will be sold, period. Only speaking for myself, anytime I purchase something, I bring the means of collecting and removing the items in question at the time of the sale.
You've given them every opportunity to come get those tractors. Now You've given them a deadline in the form of a video. I think I'd go a step further and send them a registered return receipt letter with the terms stated in this video. I wouldn't give them a refund. It's abandoned property taking up space on your land. Sort of like when you don't pay for a storage unit, after a time the storage company auctions off the contents.
This also coincides with my motto on life. "Every time I give someone a break, I go broke."
Dave, Ceate a purchase agreement that stipulates a pickup window coupled with language regarding the forfeiture of their deposit/payment.
I wouldnt normally comment on any business structure but i will say this..... Almost any and every shop i have ever walked into had a sign on the wall saying you have 30 days from the time your item is sold to you or you have been notified your item is fixed to be picked up. Day 31 starts a storage fee daily and after 60 or 90 its the shops to do with what they like.
Id start with doing proper sales registration, dated bill of sale with name, signature, adress and creditcard info on it.
If the deal includes a one month pickup time note that clearly, and include a XX amount of money on top of the purchase price that gets returned to the customer if they pick up the goods within the agreed period, AND include a statement that every item left on your property after lets say 3 months past the "end of pickup period" gets sold for scrap.
You are a commercial business, every square foot of space needs to make u money, keeping other peoples shit on your property doesnt do anything for you.
what is morally right, and what is legal may or may not be the same thing. If they are still up in the air at this point, I would have a certified letter sent to them with a 30 days from date of receipt to either start paying exorbitant storage fees, or retrieve it in that 30 days. After the 30 days if they have not done those things, then sell. Document everything. You may drop the Fordson off in my driveway 50 miles west of ya... LOL
Had a neighbor asked me if he could. Store some stuff here for 30 days he was moving and had 2 days get his stuff out .i have 3 trailers and a 32 foot camp trailer full equipment .its been over year and half he picked up.camp trailer yoday .I told him i was going to use the stuff if left here in 30 days .He never even saod thank you
Crazy D, did you happen to ask that lawyer if you were entitled to charge these people for storage costs for these tractors? If not, it might be worth asking them if that is something you can bill as storage fees to current date to these people, and tell them in the letter that you send the people who haven't picked up these tractors, that they have to pay the storage fees for these tractors and have 30 days to pick up the equipment or it will be sold. That's what I would recommend. If you are entitled to charge storage fees, and they don't want to pay, then you can forward them to a debt collection agency and get your storage fees back from them.
You need to get a lawyer to write something up. So it's legal. Give them 60 days to pick it up. Or all money paid will be refunded and will go back on a lot for sale again.
This is so wierd. I sold a tractor on marketplace last year, the guy couldn't get it right away, I said well don't worry, now it has been 8 months??
if i were you, i'd maybe tell them 3 times to come pick it up, after that i'd sell them. i'd keep records of the messages i sent and received, and if they didn't come get their stuff within the timeframe i gave them when reminding them for the third and last time,i'd sell them on to someone else. also i would NOT pay them anything if they came back later with proof of purchase. ii'd simply send them copies of the records i kept
I would call both of them and tell them final warning. They have to be picked up between such and such dates or they will forfeit their tractors and any and all money paid for the tractors. End of story.
Don't know if you can contact them? I had to reset my u tube the other day. Since then many things are not coming up like they did before. This is the first video of yours since the reset. Don't know if this could be part of the problem?
Your disappointed with the buyers rightfully so
I would take them to the scrap yard.
Ran into this with my mother when my grandmother passed away in 17. There where the three kids, my mother and her 2 oldest brothers. The family farm was split between the three and there was some of their equipment on her part. She in turn said 6 weeks and that was it but kept adding on time and nothing was ever done till ultimately dad and I said by the end of February of 21 that’s was it, if the equipment wasn’t off property then it would be sold or scrapped and that’s what we did when we got to it. So in short give a time frame and when reaching that limit remind them and once at that limit reach one last time and then proceed from there.
Send them a bill equaling their purchase price, declare them abandoned and have a giveaway to your viewers.
in wisconsin i have sold some stuff got paid THEN the people would NOT talk to me would NOT return my calls so i sold the stuff again and pot the money in a envelope for them BUT i waited 6 months of no calls before i sold them again!
I wonder if you could treat them like a mechanic does when a customer cant afford the repairs or has given up on the vehicle. At some point, after you designate some time frame to pick them up, you should be able to do what you want with them.
If i was closer, I would be on my way to buy that center exhaust SC! But, yes I also agree on the 30 days to pick up or they will be resold, and put that in bright red bold letters on the sales receipt so they can't say...well I didn't see that part.
First off, what part of kansas? Second.
Dont offer they money back, all that is gonna do is give them an out without losing. You stored them, you delt with the hastle, the tractors have been forfeited, the money is collected as storage fees.
I would think it would fall under abandoned property, they left it on your property and has dropped out of contact,,,,, it's not like a car or boat has a title,,,, talk to that lawyer again, there are diffent laws for differnt situations
Sounds like you need a visit from "Adventures Made from Scratch".
Been in your situation before, now at my lot I have a 30/60 rule, 30 days to pickup, after 30 a $20 per day storage fee, and after 60 I own it. When I do an auction it's a 15/30 rule. Of course I have exceptions but not without a plan in writing. Anyway thanks for all your videos!
Just make a contract on the sales that state you have 30 days to get it off the lot.
Resell them or scrap them you went above and beyond with kindness keeping them this long. But I do hate the word scrap but sometimes you have to do what you’ve Gotta do.
Take them over! They've had plenty of time to pick them up, as I like to say "What'd ya learn from that"
You got nothing wrong with what you want to do. They put you off and put you off so many times. The 30 days is well within your rights. Come get it or it's going away
Sell the tractors and if they want their money back give it to them. Problem solved. Dont let it stress you out.
sold a car years ago..I live in Ontario Canada.same thing..contacted lawyer was told I had to keep car in same shape until the Dincus may arrive to pu vehicle.
I wouldn’t give them their money back keep it for storage and time to have to move them off the property their loss
I would not refund them. That should be for storage for a year.
no refunds, its been over a year, on april 3 list them for sale, to be removed within 30 days from the sale date with no refunds
I WOULDN'T give them their money back!!!
David start charging storage fees and you are not responsible if anything happens to them
storage fee will help in this situation. I wouldnot offer any refunds!!!
30 days to pick any equipment or it goes back in line on yard to be sold my thought on ur problem
Sell them and if they get annoyed give them their money back and you aren't a storage lot
Legally as I have heard after 30 days u can resale items. Had it happen to me.
Charge storage after 30 days till they have run up to the price payed then repo.
Is there no abandoned property laws in Kansas? You should be able to charge storage also.
Sounds like its stressing you out. They need to be there this week.
Sell them to the closest scrap dealer, cash on the spot and winched on in 20 minutes.
30 days, then I'd slap a 25 dollars a day storage fee on them.
You are more patient than I am resell them make a little for your trouble
Sellm!! They've had plenty time to come and get them.
Junk
Them. Not your fault or problem.
You will get paid twice take them to the scrap yard
I would say 30 days to come and get them or else.
if they disappeared in the night ...........
absolutely it should be up to you to do as see fit
I could use the front end off the Case .
Free lifetime storage with purchase
I want the 706 if is available.
You should charge storage feee
Rite on Dave! Shit or get off the pot
You can charge storage fees on them :)
Is that a 706 or an 806 LP?
Reasonable warning!
Charge them a storage fee
Like to have that Case