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Bro, Supernatural went from 2 brothers looking for their dad to a 15 season long story that ended with god getting punched in the face after wiping out the multiverse....it not being here is a crime
Haha so true, although I think the reason it may not have been on here is because it was pretty easy to follow. Almost overly simplistic in its execution at times imo. Or at the very least, easily digestible.
For Dark, I had to read (that is, study) multiple episode recaps after each episode just to keep track of what was happening but it was worth it. The show was a masterpiece.
@@azzaisme Yes, somehow, Dark is able to stick the landing by the end of season three in a satisfying manner that actually ties everything together perfectly.
10:20. I had a small notebook for "Dark" with all the names and the timelines. I watched all of the seasons one after another during Covid. I was obsessed with trying to make all of the names and the dates make sense. It was a perfect Ouroboros. Amazing story telling.
The Witcher (the tv series) became too complicated because the show runners ruined the books' plot by putting stuff that never shuold have been there in the first place - like the 'baba yaga' plot for Yennefer for example. The books are so good and they are not too complicated to adapt for the screen. It's just the show runners that are at fault, here.
Dark gets complicated in a slow and continuous way to bring the show to a specific endpoint. Definitely didn't deserve to be on a list where things get complicated because they weren't thought through.
I'll bow to everyone who actually watched Lost. I tried, but already gave up in the second episode, because not only did the week between episodes back in the days erase my memory of what has happened, there were also too many characters and none I had any emotional involvement in. (If you can't make me like at least ONE character within the first episode, yeah, sorry, your show just isn't interesting to me.) As for Doctor Who ... it lost me with Capaldi (great actor, just crappy storylines) and I had a DW superfan try to explain to me what happened from there to Tennant coming back and ... nope. Didn't understand it. I'm still pondering if I should give it another try now that we're back at Russel T Davies who had been an enjoyable showrunner on his first run. But so far haven't found the strength. The time in between just made it seem more like a chore than like entertainment.
Well, never heard of #10 and #1, and never watched #9, 7, 4 or 3. So, the other four, here are my takes: Fringe: Not really all that confusing or complicated if you were actually watching the show rather than just putting it on in the background. Sometimes, shows like to challenge their audiences and hope the audiences want the challenge. Like with "The X-Files," the show had a fairly solid "core" of episodes with quite a bit of, well, not filler but stories that expanded on the core to various degrees. (And the intro to the alternate universe, with its various little details like different comic book heroes, was a very nice touch.) Doctor Who: Again, not really confusing or complicated if you watched the show. And, if you think it's "complicated" now, just imagine what it was like for British audiences when the show first ran from the 1960s to the early 90s when episodes ran for about 20-25 minutes each, with continuing stories of 3 to 6 weekly episodes (US audiences got it easy when the show finally came to the US and those multi-part episodes were generally combined into single episodes, mostly through PBS stations). When the show was revived some 2 decades ago, the main "complication" was the fact they just basically started from scratch with some "great mystery" about why the Doctor seemed to be the only Timelord (granted, the "rebirth of the Timelords" WAS complicated) but, for the most part, the idea of a "complicated" show went away once the show came out on home video (and, later, streaming) because you had every opportunity to catch those little moments that turned out to be so crucial to a particular plot point. Riverdale: Well, I tapped out in the middle of the "5-year skip" (and missed the whole final season though I did feel I should've watched that last season) but mainly because I really didn't like the dystopian vision that "happened" during that "skip." The show just lost any appeal (and there just wasn't enough of the guy-candy that had been pretty common in the first three seasons) Twin Peaks: I managed to keep up pretty well with the show's original run (even made a special 2-hour trip to see the Twin Peaks movie) despite the "complications" and really wished they had continued with a third season, but it was cancelled. Then, I was pretty stoked when the show came back in 2017 until I watched it. Now, THAT was a complicated show. I watched every episode and just seemed to get more confused with each minute I watched. And the decision to cancel it again (once more, with no real resolution to any of the mysteries) was almost a blessing in disguise. I don't think I could've sat through another "season" like that revival.
5:55 I love how Katy Keene was made specifically to take place the same time as Riverdale post-time-jump and then it gets cancelled before Riverdale even gets to the time jump!
If you watched it in "real time" in 1990, you wouldn't have a clue to what was going on. There have been 30 years of spoilers since the show 1st aired. Over the past few decades, plot leaks here and there has made the show much easier to follow. We didn't have the luxury of the leaks in 1990 and remember that it aired once a week on one channel. NO DVRs and most people didn't tape the episodes on VHS to watch back to catch a scene that was important to the plot of the show.
@@JasonMistretta-wf5ip Yes and there were many plots with no follow up. In one episode, it ended with Agent Cooper waking up from a dream declaring he knows who killed Laura Palmer. The next episode (and beyond) no mention of this dream again. Not only was it too convoluted, the plots just became too silly, especially in the second season. Nadine (the middle-aged woman with the eye patch) has an injury and thinks she's back in high school and even dates one of the football players and has super human strength for some reason. Benjamin Horne (the richest guy in town) has a mental breakdown and thinks he's re-enacting the Civil War and can only be cured if the South wins this time.
After I got used to the timeline thing in The Witcher I enjoyed it. As for Dark, I looked up the wiki article that explained who was who and how they were related, and I still ended up giving up on trying to untangle it.
I feel like this could’ve been a Top 20 list. While I love each of the shows I’m about to name, I think many can agree: Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Grey’s Anatomy, How To Get Away With Murder, Once Upon A Time, The 100, &The Vampire Diaries
Some of these shows make sense that they would be complicated. Scifi and fantasy shows often have alot of lore and big ideas to bring in, due to their subject matter. But shows like Pretty Little Liars and Riverdale do not need to be that complicated and intense to follow, that's just the writers losing the thread and throwing what ever they can in. hhaha Also Lost rules!
well let me catch up, it became supernatural. In season 6, the gang all had super powers. In season 7, they all traveled back in time to the 1950s and stayed there until the end of the series
Amazing video watch mojo of tv shows that lost there plot become unnecessary complication to understand and found,fantastic job. I still love pretty little liars,Riverdale and the chilling adventures of Sabrina many others too. I might get back into watching Riverdale again on Netflix because I’m in love with the show,characters too. What about Grimm,charmed and the 100 too many others too.
"Lost" started great, but by the end was already nonsensical. "Riverdale" was never a great show, but its trajectory was similar. "Twin Peaks" was much easier to follow than the aforementioned shows.
@@gaminggoof1542 That was only part of it, and ironically that's one of the less talked about criticisms I've heard about it. Some people even saw it coming and weren't that surprised by it. I certainly didn't and is was one of my biggest complaints, but I think most people were annoyed with how rushed it felt. 7 seasons spent building up the army of the dead and they were defeated in a single episode by a cheap trick. 7 seasons spent building up Daenerys and her rise to power through the most righteous means possible only to have her murder everyone anyways and then stand on their graves in triumph. 7 seasons spent building up Cersei and her rise to power only to have her die crying in a basement. 7 seasons spent building up Jon Snow and his rise to power, he was probably the most obvious candidate to take the throne, aside from Daenerys before she went awol, and they gave it to Bran. That is probably the biggest complaint I've heard too, not only was Bran one of the least compelling candidates, but many felt he was one of the most useless characters by that point, and I don't entirely disagree with them.
Something that David Lynch that isn't confusing? Super easy! Barely an inconvenience! That would be The Straight Story. It's rated G. Made for Disney. Like it's title, it's pretty straightforward.
Sapphire and Steel. So many questions. Who are they? Who do they work for? Is it that helmet thing in the opening credits? If not, what the hell IS that helmet thing in the opening credits? What's their power set? If they are so powerful, how come only two of their six adventures end in victory (the others being three draws on technicalities and one outright defeat)?
I know it's a soap opera, but Port Charles. Towards the end of its run, the stories got way too complex and relied too heavily on supernatural stories.
That was done to bring up ratings. The show was originally a General Hospital spin-off focusing on the hospital. At that time (and still today), the original show strayed from the hospital to focus on the mob (Sopranos-lite, if you will). The spin-off PC was an attempt to return to the hospital and was basically a daytime rip-off of ER which was popular at the time. After the first 3 years, ratings weren't getting better so producers tried a different strategy. They decided to borrow from the popular Spanish station telenovelas that had stories that had a beginning, middle and end. So the show came up with 13 week story arcs, which they called books and each book had its own them and storyline. The first one was called Fate, the second one Time in a Bottle (about time travel), but the third one Tainted Love (about vampires) took off and ratings went up. So they decided to delve into the supernatural (witches, angels, doppelgangers, vampires and even a werewolf at the end). Unfortunately, after the Tainted Love book, each subsequent story arc got more and more silly and ratings went down until it was cancelled a few years later
There was also Alcatraz, a show that started with the premise that one night all the guards and prisoners just up and vanished - then started reappearing years later, with the added hint that some may have anticipated the disappearance. It was well advertised, but dumped as soon as someone decided they couldn’t write their way out of the hole they dug for themselves. Shame, I was enjoying it.
I know it isn't on this list, but I lost interest in "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" after season 7. They kept piling on convoluted characters/storylines. It became too complicated for its own good.
I decided halfway through LOST that trying to figure out the mysteries was useless, best to ignore them entirely and focus on the performances, the characters and the intense daddy issues that led them to their "Island" purgatory. I know 'they're all dead, the Island is a purgatory' explanation has some flaws and I think the writers may have said thats not what they meant. But...I dont care!
I knew PLL was gonna be on here. I stopped watching cus it got too confusing and the storyline was all over the place. My friends told me who A was in the end & I still didn’t wanna watch it to see for myself
Okay, but some of these shows were unnecessarily complicated for the sake of longevity and then there's dark that is complicated because that's what the plot is about, that's part of the magic, also it's only 3 seasons, there was a website when s2 or s3 premiered (I can't remember) that you could get all the info that you might have missed and it was all wrapped up. It's a fucking masterpiece and one of the reasons it's its complexity
DreamCorp LLC (2016-2021) Got Complicated After season 2 and cancelled after season 3 got Acquired by Hulu but I heard Adult Swim Is trying to reacquire the rights after years of no results
I just know that it’s one of the shows featuring Jon Gries as one of his earlier roles was on one of my ma’s favorite shows, The Pretender, which I’m starting to think halfway through binging the show with her is also getting more complicated.
I don't usually comment on Watch Mojo videos, but I feel like this one really missed the mark for me. Having Twin Peaks so high on this list or even at all makes me think that whoever put it there was just looking at it at face value. The show is called Twin Peaks, not Who Killed Laura Palmer. Of course it's about the town and the people who have been affected by it. Yes, it does get supernatural at times and you have more questions than answers, but did you really think an entire show can be built only around a murder mystery and last for multiple seasons ? Also, I am with everyone in the comments, Once Upon A Time and Supernatural should have made this list.
@8:07 "Some of it's many questions failing to be answered..." Like WHAT? It's this LIE right there that keeps getting Lost a bad rep 15 years after it ended. It's not it's fault some ppl would skip eps, or were just too stupid to follow along...
I thought Fast and Furious had a bigger dropoff than Riverdale. Sabrina showing up in that legitimately has me believe Dom will team up with Optimus Prime one day.
Sabrina was originally a character in the Archie comics. And on both shows there were references and even characters who appeared in both. And Greendale (Sabrina's home town) was next door to Riverdale
Season 4. Season 5 is pretty weak, too. Don't get me wrong, I loved the show and the casting was spot on, but season 4 started down too many roads at once. Anna Torv was outstanding and she and all the cast had great chemistry. Even minor characters were important. Keep your eyes open.
The end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3. If you are just watching the 1st season, then that is just "monster of the week" type of episodes. Seasons 2-5 have definitive story arcs that have a satisfying ending by the end of season 5.
Helix.. it was on the SciFy channel for a couple of seasons.. Great show and great actors but too many confusing things and plot twists towards the end.. 😮
The first two seasons of Dark were great, the third was so convoluted and made no sense at all even when characters were hemorrhaging exposition all the time
I haven't seen most of the ones here but I think How to get away with murder should be here. I gave Up on that show in season 3 cause It was too much and I believe It got ever more complicated after that😂
Haha! Fringe can seem straightforward, but have you ever tried explaining it to someone who’s never seen it? It’s like trying to summarize a dream! What’s your favorite plot twist?
@WatchMojo Fringe can easily be summed up as the lengths a father will go to save his son, in this dimension. Peter Bishop dies in this dimension. Walter is so brilliant that he opens up a portal to an alternative dimension to bring him back, but can't quite close it. Hence, the ensuing mayhem.
Dark is one of the best TV shows anywhere. One of the few you actually have to pay while watching. Or you would be lost. Wish they had more shows like it. Another one was Mr.Robot. But unfortunately most shows today look like they were written by a ten year old.
Wait, is The Witcher's Geralt the same Geralt that makes an appearance in Soul Caliber VI? Wow, both Sabrina and Katy Keane were given Riverdale spin-offs? Let's be thankful Josie and the Pussycats so far have been kept out of this complex universe.
FYI: Josie and the Pussycats (the band) were characters on Riverdale for the first few seasons. Then Josie migrated to Katy Keene and some of the J and the P characters like Alex & Alexandra Cabot were introduced on Katy Keene
I loved "Fringe" until the last season and a half. I still think that the casting was perfect, but when the show executives found out it was cancelled after the fifth season, the plots (yes, I mean more than one!) went haywire. They had started on a convoluted plot already, and had to wrap up all the story lines in like 6 episodes. It meant a lot of weird things happened! Other shows that suffered the same problems were "Eureka" and "Sanctuary."
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Bro, Supernatural went from 2 brothers looking for their dad to a 15 season long story that ended with god getting punched in the face after wiping out the multiverse....it not being here is a crime
Casual watchmojo L tbh
Haha so true, although I think the reason it may not have been on here is because it was pretty easy to follow. Almost overly simplistic in its execution at times imo. Or at the very least, easily digestible.
It got wild and out of hand at some points but not really confusing.
That sounds awesome.
you must be stupid if you think that show got confusing
Where’s Once Upon a Time on this list?
True I was thinking of that one
Or Grimm by the end.
I watched nearly every episode of Lost and was lost the whole time. I never knew what was going on.
For Dark, I had to read (that is, study) multiple episode recaps after each episode just to keep track of what was happening but it was worth it. The show was a masterpiece.
One of the few shows that leaves nothing unanswered
@@azzaisme Yes, somehow, Dark is able to stick the landing by the end of season three in a satisfying manner that actually ties everything together perfectly.
10:20. I had a small notebook for "Dark" with all the names and the timelines. I watched all of the seasons one after another during Covid. I was obsessed with trying to make all of the names and the dates make sense. It was a perfect Ouroboros. Amazing story telling.
I used it to help me study the German language.
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*LOVED* Fringe! Such an awesome cast of actors!
RIP Lance Reddick 🌅
Lost for sure is a poster child for that
Tbf LOST was incredible tho
But it was a masterpiece of a show too, showing how creative network TV can be
Wrong. Ppl were just too stupid to understand. Not the show's fault
The Witcher (the tv series) became too complicated because the show runners ruined the books' plot by putting stuff that never shuold have been there in the first place - like the 'baba yaga' plot for Yennefer for example. The books are so good and they are not too complicated to adapt for the screen. It's just the show runners that are at fault, here.
I got so confused with Prerty Little Liars towards the end
Dark gets complicated in a slow and continuous way to bring the show to a specific endpoint. Definitely didn't deserve to be on a list where things get complicated because they weren't thought through.
I'll bow to everyone who actually watched Lost. I tried, but already gave up in the second episode, because not only did the week between episodes back in the days erase my memory of what has happened, there were also too many characters and none I had any emotional involvement in. (If you can't make me like at least ONE character within the first episode, yeah, sorry, your show just isn't interesting to me.)
As for Doctor Who ... it lost me with Capaldi (great actor, just crappy storylines) and I had a DW superfan try to explain to me what happened from there to Tennant coming back and ... nope. Didn't understand it. I'm still pondering if I should give it another try now that we're back at Russel T Davies who had been an enjoyable showrunner on his first run. But so far haven't found the strength. The time in between just made it seem more like a chore than like entertainment.
I still enjoy Doctor Who, even when it gets a little confusing
The confusion is part of the fun.
I had to watch it with a notebook and pen in my hand, but Dark is one of the most phenomenal, well written and well casted shows I have ever seen
Well, never heard of #10 and #1, and never watched #9, 7, 4 or 3. So, the other four, here are my takes:
Fringe: Not really all that confusing or complicated if you were actually watching the show rather than just putting it on in the background. Sometimes, shows like to challenge their audiences and hope the audiences want the challenge. Like with "The X-Files," the show had a fairly solid "core" of episodes with quite a bit of, well, not filler but stories that expanded on the core to various degrees. (And the intro to the alternate universe, with its various little details like different comic book heroes, was a very nice touch.)
Doctor Who: Again, not really confusing or complicated if you watched the show. And, if you think it's "complicated" now, just imagine what it was like for British audiences when the show first ran from the 1960s to the early 90s when episodes ran for about 20-25 minutes each, with continuing stories of 3 to 6 weekly episodes (US audiences got it easy when the show finally came to the US and those multi-part episodes were generally combined into single episodes, mostly through PBS stations). When the show was revived some 2 decades ago, the main "complication" was the fact they just basically started from scratch with some "great mystery" about why the Doctor seemed to be the only Timelord (granted, the "rebirth of the Timelords" WAS complicated) but, for the most part, the idea of a "complicated" show went away once the show came out on home video (and, later, streaming) because you had every opportunity to catch those little moments that turned out to be so crucial to a particular plot point.
Riverdale: Well, I tapped out in the middle of the "5-year skip" (and missed the whole final season though I did feel I should've watched that last season) but mainly because I really didn't like the dystopian vision that "happened" during that "skip." The show just lost any appeal (and there just wasn't enough of the guy-candy that had been pretty common in the first three seasons)
Twin Peaks: I managed to keep up pretty well with the show's original run (even made a special 2-hour trip to see the Twin Peaks movie) despite the "complications" and really wished they had continued with a third season, but it was cancelled. Then, I was pretty stoked when the show came back in 2017 until I watched it. Now, THAT was a complicated show. I watched every episode and just seemed to get more confused with each minute I watched. And the decision to cancel it again (once more, with no real resolution to any of the mysteries) was almost a blessing in disguise. I don't think I could've sat through another "season" like that revival.
Game of Thrones and This Is Us. After I found out how Jack died, I quit watching This Is Us.
Lost should be #1. They had way too many mysteries and very few answers
I'm still trying to understand "moon night"
5:55 I love how Katy Keene was made specifically to take place the same time as Riverdale post-time-jump and then it gets cancelled before Riverdale even gets to the time jump!
Apparently some of my faves are the most wild lol 😂 love fringe. Dr who. Love lost. Love Westworld. They all kept me hooked
_Twin Peaks_ was easy to follow, but that’s just me.
it was a brainbender for the 90's though...it was VERY cult
If you watched it in "real time" in 1990, you wouldn't have a clue to what was going on. There have been 30 years of spoilers since the show 1st aired. Over the past few decades, plot leaks here and there has made the show much easier to follow. We didn't have the luxury of the leaks in 1990 and remember that it aired once a week on one channel. NO DVRs and most people didn't tape the episodes on VHS to watch back to catch a scene that was important to the plot of the show.
@@JasonMistretta-wf5ip Yes and there were many plots with no follow up. In one episode, it ended with Agent Cooper waking up from a dream declaring he knows who killed Laura Palmer. The next episode (and beyond) no mention of this dream again. Not only was it too convoluted, the plots just became too silly, especially in the second season. Nadine (the middle-aged woman with the eye patch) has an injury and thinks she's back in high school and even dates one of the football players and has super human strength for some reason. Benjamin Horne (the richest guy in town) has a mental breakdown and thinks he's re-enacting the Civil War and can only be cured if the South wins this time.
After I got used to the timeline thing in The Witcher I enjoyed it.
As for Dark, I looked up the wiki article that explained who was who and how they were related, and I still ended up giving up on trying to untangle it.
Why is Dark in the same list as Riverdale and Pretty little liars(two show that literally didn't know what to do with its characters)?
Dark is amazing and tied up nicely in the end. It was what Lost aspired to be.
Because smart overly complicated and dumb overly complicated are still both overly complicated
Plot twist: PLL just wanted to troll the FUCK out of everyone.
I agree
like the cancelled reboot Original Sin
I would say Orphan Black became this way too, eps. with season 4 & 5.
Supernatural, the walking dead, once upon a time
Outer range was so good and deserved to finish its story 😢
Lest we forget The X-Files, Patron Saint of Convoluted Storytelling.
I feel like this could’ve been a Top 20 list. While I love each of the shows I’m about to name, I think many can agree: Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Grey’s Anatomy, How To Get Away With Murder, Once Upon A Time, The 100, &The Vampire Diaries
Legion
I still have no fucking idea whats going on with that show
Blindspot got very confusing by the end
This is a less popular show but Hemlock Grove on Netflix was one of the hardest to follow shows I've ever watched. By season 3, I gave up
I agree! That show had so much promise after Season 1. Then it was just "what the heck is going on" for the next 2 seasons.
Some of these shows make sense that they would be complicated. Scifi and fantasy shows often have alot of lore and big ideas to bring in, due to their subject matter. But shows like Pretty Little Liars and Riverdale do not need to be that complicated and intense to follow, that's just the writers losing the thread and throwing what ever they can in. hhaha Also Lost rules!
Dark is a show created to be watched multiple times that is why is only 3 seasons
The OA? Raised by Wolves? Both cancelled prematurely.
How to Get Away with Murder confused me so much, I gave up. The constant use of flashbacks just felt like I was losing a game of Twister.
Riverdales downfall is insane
It’s wild how it went from high school drama to full-on supernatural chaos!
@@WatchMojo It was kinda of high school version of Twin Peaks but went full on craziness with super powers, time travel and supernatural
Riverdale definitely has my head spinning. I stopped watching after season 3 because it got too complicated for my brain to understand.
well let me catch up, it became supernatural. In season 6, the gang all had super powers. In season 7, they all traveled back in time to the 1950s and stayed there until the end of the series
Heroes was one that became hard to follow
Amazing video watch mojo of tv shows that lost there plot become unnecessary complication to understand and found,fantastic job. I still love pretty little liars,Riverdale and the chilling adventures of Sabrina many others too. I might get back into watching Riverdale again on Netflix because I’m in love with the show,characters too. What about Grimm,charmed and the 100 too many others too.
"Lost" started great, but by the end was already nonsensical. "Riverdale" was never a great show, but its trajectory was similar. "Twin Peaks" was much easier to follow than the aforementioned shows.
Why isn’t Game of Thrones on here?
If anything, GOT story became less complicated by the end
@@trippietoadie1296 Wasn’t the final episode hated though cause one of the characters went on a genocide after losing their mind out of nowhere?
@@gaminggoof1542 That was only part of it, and ironically that's one of the less talked about criticisms I've heard about it. Some people even saw it coming and weren't that surprised by it. I certainly didn't and is was one of my biggest complaints, but I think most people were annoyed with how rushed it felt. 7 seasons spent building up the army of the dead and they were defeated in a single episode by a cheap trick. 7 seasons spent building up Daenerys and her rise to power through the most righteous means possible only to have her murder everyone anyways and then stand on their graves in triumph. 7 seasons spent building up Cersei and her rise to power only to have her die crying in a basement. 7 seasons spent building up Jon Snow and his rise to power, he was probably the most obvious candidate to take the throne, aside from Daenerys before she went awol, and they gave it to Bran. That is probably the biggest complaint I've heard too, not only was Bran one of the least compelling candidates, but many felt he was one of the most useless characters by that point, and I don't entirely disagree with them.
@@condor7964 I feel your points
@@gaminggoof1542 Glad I could be that descriptive, haha.
Criminal Minds hard to keep up with all the changing agents and increasing backstory
PLL is a troll show
@@Baby_duck4 what's pll
Something that David Lynch that isn't confusing? Super easy! Barely an inconvenience!
That would be The Straight Story. It's rated G. Made for Disney. Like it's title, it's pretty straightforward.
DARK was one of the greatest shows of all time
4:20 Watching TV shows when they overdo the time travelling troupe 😂😂
Dark is awesome.
Loved Dark. It was really hard to keep everything straight though!
Sapphire and Steel. So many questions. Who are they? Who do they work for? Is it that helmet thing in the opening credits? If not, what the hell IS that helmet thing in the opening credits? What's their power set? If they are so powerful, how come only two of their six adventures end in victory (the others being three draws on technicalities and one outright defeat)?
My top picks are lost and prison break.
I know it's a soap opera, but Port Charles. Towards the end of its run, the stories got way too complex and relied too heavily on supernatural stories.
That was done to bring up ratings. The show was originally a General Hospital spin-off focusing on the hospital. At that time (and still today), the original show strayed from the hospital to focus on the mob (Sopranos-lite, if you will). The spin-off PC was an attempt to return to the hospital and was basically a daytime rip-off of ER which was popular at the time. After the first 3 years, ratings weren't getting better so producers tried a different strategy. They decided to borrow from the popular Spanish station telenovelas that had stories that had a beginning, middle and end. So the show came up with 13 week story arcs, which they called books and each book had its own them and storyline. The first one was called Fate, the second one Time in a Bottle (about time travel), but the third one Tainted Love (about vampires) took off and ratings went up. So they decided to delve into the supernatural (witches, angels, doppelgangers, vampires and even a werewolf at the end). Unfortunately, after the Tainted Love book, each subsequent story arc got more and more silly and ratings went down until it was cancelled a few years later
What’s interesting about Lost and Twin Peaks is that those games were the inspiration for two Nintendo games: Mother 3 and Zelda Link’s Awakening
How did Heroes not make this list?
New game: do a shot any time they say "convoluted"
I've never seen a minute of any of those shows, I don't like the genre of any of them
Outer range isn’t complicated at all. It’s amazing
Doctor Who and Fringe are a lot of fun to watch.
There was also Alcatraz, a show that started with the premise that one night all the guards and prisoners just up and vanished - then started reappearing years later, with the added hint that some may have anticipated the disappearance. It was well advertised, but dumped as soon as someone decided they couldn’t write their way out of the hole they dug for themselves. Shame, I was enjoying it.
I know it isn't on this list, but I lost interest in "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" after season 7. They kept piling on convoluted characters/storylines. It became too complicated for its own good.
Not once have I ever thought Doctor Who has got too complicated! 🤯
"I went back to season one of Fringe to check for plot holes - as suspected…it's airtight."
"The 100" definitely needs to be on this list.
PLL, definitely. I lost interest by season 5 because of how convoluted the story became.
"The Flash" - jumping ahead - duplicates - another CW WTFrig show
which show did it duplicate?
I decided halfway through LOST that trying to figure out the mysteries was useless, best to ignore them entirely and focus on the performances, the characters and the intense daddy issues that led them to their "Island" purgatory.
I know 'they're all dead, the Island is a purgatory' explanation has some flaws and I think the writers may have said thats not what they meant. But...I dont care!
Wayward Pines.........I'm STILL confused
📺🤯 Totally agree, some shows really test your brain!
I knew PLL was gonna be on here. I stopped watching cus it got too confusing and the storyline was all over the place. My friends told me who A was in the end & I still didn’t wanna watch it to see for myself
I agree with the pll it started to give me a headache after a while when I watched it
Okay, but some of these shows were unnecessarily complicated for the sake of longevity and then there's dark that is complicated because that's what the plot is about, that's part of the magic, also it's only 3 seasons, there was a website when s2 or s3 premiered (I can't remember) that you could get all the info that you might have missed and it was all wrapped up. It's a fucking masterpiece and one of the reasons it's its complexity
Lost better be on this list
DreamCorp LLC (2016-2021) Got Complicated After season 2 and cancelled after season 3 got Acquired by Hulu but I heard Adult Swim Is trying to reacquire the rights after years of no results
It was a really bad show that a lot of people didn’t watch. So it doesn’t matter
I just know that it’s one of the shows featuring Jon Gries as one of his earlier roles was on one of my ma’s favorite shows, The Pretender, which I’m starting to think halfway through binging the show with her is also getting more complicated.
I don't usually comment on Watch Mojo videos, but I feel like this one really missed the mark for me. Having Twin Peaks so high on this list or even at all makes me think that whoever put it there was just looking at it at face value. The show is called Twin Peaks, not Who Killed Laura Palmer. Of course it's about the town and the people who have been affected by it. Yes, it does get supernatural at times and you have more questions than answers, but did you really think an entire show can be built only around a murder mystery and last for multiple seasons ?
Also, I am with everyone in the comments, Once Upon A Time and Supernatural should have made this list.
I've seen The Witcher, bits of Doctor Who well more the reboot versions and Lost.
This that service as a case study for shows ruining too long😏 & when time travel becomes an element we're screwed
Pretty Little Liars started off good but it had too many twist and turns that it gave me a damn headache. I didn't even watch the final season.
Yellowjackets, Penny Dreadful,
@8:07 "Some of it's many questions failing to be answered..." Like WHAT? It's this LIE right there that keeps getting Lost a bad rep 15 years after it ended. It's not it's fault some ppl would skip eps, or were just too stupid to follow along...
The man in the high castle
I thought Fast and Furious had a bigger dropoff than Riverdale. Sabrina showing up in that legitimately has me believe Dom will team up with Optimus Prime one day.
Sabrina was originally a character in the Archie comics. And on both shows there were references and even characters who appeared in both. And Greendale (Sabrina's home town) was next door to Riverdale
@@radrobd123 What about the people who didn't have Netflix to watch Sabrina? They'd think it was weird.
@@KadenJ-ie1ji not really. It wasn't like the references affected storylines. They might not have caught certain references but that's all
@@radrobd123 I get it. Thanks for clarifying.
PLL def should’ve been number 1 I followed that show and there were so many plot holes
I make you get a headache trying to explain it
Umbrella Academy. It peaked at the 2nd season, the 3rd was kind of a mess and after starting the 4th season, I completely lost interest.
The second season really had some great twists and character development. What do you think made the third season feel like a mess?
@@WatchMojo just seemed like the stakes got watered down after they started going back in time for a do-over every time they screwed something up.
I've just started watching 'Fringe'. When can I look forward to it getting complex ?
Season 4. Season 5 is pretty weak, too. Don't get me wrong, I loved the show and the casting was spot on, but season 4 started down too many roads at once.
Anna Torv was outstanding and she and all the cast had great chemistry. Even minor characters were important. Keep your eyes open.
The end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3. If you are just watching the 1st season, then that is just "monster of the week" type of episodes. Seasons 2-5 have definitive story arcs that have a satisfying ending by the end of season 5.
Helix.. it was on the SciFy channel for a couple of seasons.. Great show and great actors but too many confusing things and plot twists towards the end.. 😮
The first two seasons of Dark were great, the third was so convoluted and made no sense at all even when characters were hemorrhaging exposition all the time
I would definitely add HEROES and the OA to this list.
Riverdale didn’t get complicated. It got stupid.
The leftovers shouldve atleast been an honorable mention
Dark is the OG
I haven't seen most of the ones here but I think How to get away with murder should be here. I gave Up on that show in season 3 cause It was too much and I believe It got ever more complicated after that😂
Fringe was perfectly understadable.
To be honest, I've never watched any of these shows but The Witcher looks interesting.
It’s pretty good too. You should watch it.
You should play the game as well. It's also just as good as the Netflix series. Besides it's also a long game.
I recommend LOST. 10/10 if you like a show you can think about and theorize
What kinds of shows do you usually enjoy?
@@WatchMojo Usually shows like Wednesday or The First 48
#10 - #1 : Lost
Fringe isn't that complicated. Calm down watchmojo!
And it actually gets less complicated later in the series, when all the seemingly isolated events start to tie together.
Word😂
Haha! Fringe can seem straightforward, but have you ever tried explaining it to someone who’s never seen it? It’s like trying to summarize a dream! What’s your favorite plot twist?
@WatchMojo Fringe can easily be summed up as the lengths a father will go to save his son, in this dimension. Peter Bishop dies in this dimension. Walter is so brilliant that he opens up a portal to an alternative dimension to bring him back, but can't quite close it. Hence, the ensuing mayhem.
Dark is one of the best TV shows anywhere. One of the few you actually have to pay while watching. Or you would be lost. Wish they had more shows like it. Another one was Mr.Robot. But unfortunately most shows today look like they were written by a ten year old.
Pay attention..
Wait, is The Witcher's Geralt the same Geralt that makes an appearance in Soul Caliber VI?
Wow, both Sabrina and Katy Keane were given Riverdale spin-offs? Let's be thankful Josie and the Pussycats so far have been kept out of this complex universe.
FYI: Josie and the Pussycats (the band) were characters on Riverdale for the first few seasons. Then Josie migrated to Katy Keene and some of the J and the P characters like Alex & Alexandra Cabot were introduced on Katy Keene
I loved "Fringe" until the last season and a half. I still think that the casting was perfect, but when the show executives found out it was cancelled after the fifth season, the plots (yes, I mean more than one!) went haywire. They had started on a convoluted plot already, and had to wrap up all the story lines in like 6 episodes. It meant a lot of weird things happened!
Other shows that suffered the same problems were "Eureka" and "Sanctuary."
Why is Blacklist not on this list? Or supernatural?
Lost will leave you lost . 😂😊
Oh, you're a genius. I've NEVER heard THAT one before!
I didn't find Westworld to be complicated