Bernardo was having a great game - I don’t know stats but on the eye he was the one winning the second balls and keeping possession I think Roger’s keeps hatate knowing that he can supply a winner
Bernardo does love a pass back. But I trust him to bring a ball down and control it more than anyone else in the midfield, and he does have quality and I think he’s improving slowly but progressively, imo.
@@Boo1023Boo Sadly I've still to be anything like convinced about 23 year old next month Bernardo for the fact, as you say, '' he loves a pass back'' even when he doesn't have to & the other wee fact too that he still, with monotonous regularity, continues to give the ball away far too easily & particularly when playing at the very highest level in Europe & on the positive, he does have a shot in him whilst having, to a certain degree, a wee bit of physicality & last but not least, most thankfully we didn't pay the very silly £6 million for him & if we had, that would have made a very silly hat-trick of very silly fees for £9.5 million with the add on, Idah & the humongously silly huge big whopping £11 million for Engels....
The Dec/Jan "13 games in 41 days" schedule only serves to highlight how important it was to take care of business in August/September. Aug/Sep we had one game a week, nice weather (by Scottish standards) nice pitches, a fresh squad off the back of a good pre-season. Aug/Sep was a golden opportunity to put some easy points on the board and that is EXACTLY what we did. As a result of that we have given ourselves a cushion heading in to this hectic run of games. 13 games in 41 days - There is absolutely no chance of us giving a 10/10 performance in all those games, so we have to bear that in mind. The chances are that we will drop points or, whisper it, lose a game! The consolation is that our rivals have a similar hectic run and because they didn't take care of business in Aug/Sep they now can't afford to drop points. Celtic also have huge cash reserves in the bank and come January we can bring in one or two players to help share the burden. So all in all, it's more good news than bad IMHO.
Schmeichel won the battle of the penalty shootout he actually dominated the pace he's in their faces he stands in front of the Rangers players by the spot just to display how big he is, at one point you see big Phil becomes concerned he realises what Schmeichel was upto only Hagi gave Schmeichel some grief back Schmeichel even gets Butland to stand well behind his goal line Schmeichel is pointing out to the assistant linesman were Butland is in his goal the very first penalty Schmeichel gets Tavernier to hand him the ball I knew then that Celtic would win Schmeichel was in control of the penalty shootout HH ☘️☘️☘️
Unreal stats on Engles. What's the answer in midfield to solve the creativity issue? Surely it has to be a long run in the team for Luke McCowan? I genuinely think he can replicate what O'Riley brought us.
I completely agree that the just turned 27 year old McCowan be given ''a long run in the team'' as you put it & for sure, he'll see some action, maybe even lots of action, in these ''13 games in 41 days'' the poor wee things, but you have to remember that football Managers have their very own special brand of huge, off the scale, egos, death defying stubbornness & a hypersensitive hypersensitivity that even a pubescent teenager would be completely embarrassed about & so in that context & ''context is everything'' as dear old Alan most rightly likes to remind us, our current Manager NEEDS £11million Engels to ''succeed'' far, far more than £1million, Celtic daft ever since a wee bairn, McCowan & ALL the difficulties that poses....
Hatate started off really poor and when Bernardo was hooked instead of Hatate, I was honestly gobsmacked. Hatate did play a bit better as the game went on and in to ET. That's probably down to tired legs all over the pitch and so Hatate's lack of drive & energy from minute 1 was finally matched by the rangers players around the 75 minute mark and in to extra time. But surely to God we cannot keep starting Hatate in these games in the hope that he'll be able to do something late on when the opposition are tiring? That is something we should bring him on as a sub for. Maybe Rodgers hands were tied with McCowan being cup-tied and he felt forced to go with Hatate as our only properly creative midfielder. It'll be interesting to see what McCowan's involvement is like now that the League cup is out of the way and he's now eligible for every game we play.
I can't believe im going to say this, but if teams set up mid block and allow our CB's to have lots of free possession then maybe we should have sent Rocky on loan and kept Lagerbielke in the squad as long passing is his forte. Please don't be too harsh with the replies guys.
I can’t see Taylor being offered a bumper contract after a series of average to poor performances. The league cup was symptomatic of his season. Let’s hope Celtic can recruit a good left back in January.
Correct me if I’m wrong, and some of this might be game state, haven’t Rangers out xG’d Celtic with fair regularity over the last couple years? They did at least twice or thrice last year, I remember yinz discussing it back then. Have Celtic tended to underperform against Rangers, at least in chance creation, under Rodgers 2.0?
Hi John i've never seen Cummings play so cannot comment. I'm told Kenny has genuine pace so maybe has a chance. No other Scottish players catch the eye above Lennon Miller and there is a concern at his lack of pace.
This game basically exposed every weakness that's been discussed at length by this forum over the previous 15/16 weeks. Close down McGregor you close down Celtic. (Brugge) Target Taylor, (weak at left back) Hatate (lightweight) Engles (not press resistant) Kyogo (not really a game for him) Idah (flattering again to decieve) Rodgers (too slow to change) Next two windows crucial!
Oh, it was a game for Kyogo all right. Trouble is none of his teammates seemed to know it. When Kuhn was through on goal early on all he had to do was slip the ball through to the wee man to tap into an empty net. Kyogo also now spends much of his time in defence heading the ball away at corners and set pieces presumably under instructions. Personally I think this is a bit of a waste of a top striker on the break but Brendan knows best! 🤔
@gezobel I don't disagree, maybe I should have said not set up for Kyogo, but the podcast covers it, I'm sat in the North Upper watching him make run after run off the ball and not be found, it's pretty frustrating because as you say it's a waste not only of his talent but also a jersey at times, but who are we, undefeated all season, so as Alan says life is good! Here's hoping there's a process to trust in! 🙏
@@gezobel Kyogo was behind the defenders, don't think that pass was on. Kuhn was playing for the penalty in my opinion, he showed enough of the ball hoping the keeper would dive for it and bring him down. Watch it again, his head is down waiting for contact, doubt he seen Kyogo.
And yet here we are 11 clear and now having won 3 trophies this calendar year and a distinct possibility of CL playoff qualification. Even the Lisbon Lions didn't win every game they played or play beautiful flowing football every match. Agree on Kyogo though - need to find a way to get the ball through to him much earlier. We'd notice it if he left though - even just for his pressing ability (let alone the goals he scores in big games!) He makes so many good runs behind and with exception of Hatate occasionally and LM he very rarely gets played in.
Not as big a mistake as me though, shouting for McCowan to come on at HT, not realising he was cup-tied. 🫤 That's what stress of watching the 1st half does to a Celtic fan.🫣
@@jamesmcmullan1306Apart from LB, the midfield is where we are at our weakest. Hatate is often woeful and I fail to see what Engels has to offer. Folk tell me that he is young and will 'come good' in time but if that is the case he shouldn't be playing in the first place if he isn't ready especially at CL level? McCowan and Bernardo are the best we have right now, imv.
@@gezobelI agree on Engles. He wasn’t particularly impressive when “on form” early in the season. Bernardo has showed progression at least and battles well
It wasn't that bad, but for sure, it was all a bit strangely subdued as I've said elsewhere, but maybe too you might not be aware that The Huddle Breakdown is just completely NOT a happy clappy, aren't we just total world beaters & made the Rangers greet again type of podcast & so for me & quite a few others, that is a usp I just don't want them ever to even slightly deflect from, never mind lose....
@frankbrennan1619 No I'm completely aware of what the show is, I'm a subscriber. A bit too negative IMO, but that's me. If you can't switch off to enjoy winning a trophy then what's the point in supporting a team
@@seerysean So many confuse, some wilfully so I'm sure, so-called ''negativity'' with positive realism & living in the real world & whatever else The Huddle Breakdown is, it most certainly is never ''negative'' & particularly in the context of & as a subscriber to the channel, you know exactly the identity of the person who most rightly frequently likes to remind us that ''context is everything'' The Huddle Breakdown is ALL about their facts & data, rather than jumping about hysterically saying ''everything is a disaster'' when it COMPLETELY isn't or ''we're a Team of world beaters'' when we're COMPLETELY not, but yes, they could have been a lot more effervescent about the significance of us winning oor 119th trophy.
For me, bit of a ''strange'' one from The Huddle Breakdown, starting with the headline '' Celtic League Cup Champions 24/25'' when instead it should say, '' Celtic League Cup Winners 24/25'' & why didn't any of them mention the fact that we've now won 119 trophies & the huge big significance of this momentous achievement in the history of Celtic Football Club & indeed the history of Scottish football as a whole, goodness only knows, but just maybe they were all still a wee bit underwhelmed after Sunday's game & how, like it or not, it really could have gone either way & that ''penalty'' of theirs in extra time they never got & the fact too that for the first time ever, Clementine actually succeeded in nullifying Wee Callum for basically the whole of the game.....
1. the title is a wee joke at others' pumped up self importance and 2. the 119 isn't mentioned as it isn't important to us to shout about pretendy accolades
@@alanmorrison5981 I'm obviously completely missing something, so please enlighten me as to how the world famous Celtic Football Club now having won 119 trophies that means us ONLY currently sitting in first place as the most successful League Football Club in quite literally the whole of world football, for the number of trophies won & so in that context & ''context is everything'' as some guy, you might know him, frequently most rightly likes to remind us all, is such a genuinely momentous achievement, ANY kind of so - called ''pretendy accolade'' as you so delicately describe it?
@@frankbrennan1619 Because it's bullshit Frank. Any list of "worlds most" with Linfield and Al Ahly in the top four is no indicator of footballing quality in the global arena. How much is a European Cup worth relative to a Northern Irish Milk Cup or Scottish League Cup. It's pretendy bollox best left to those with entitlement issues.
@@alanmorrison5981 You disappoint me my dear old friend, because I never thought, not even for a nano second, that someone of your erudition & lover of facts & data, wid ever go doon the well worn & most erroneous route, of ''quality over quantity'' as the sole & complete motivating & relevant factor & particularly in the context of (you know the rest!) me completely NOT mentioning the quality ''angle'' as to our historic winning of oor now 119th trophy & where that puts us currently in world football & even more so when I'm one of the very, very, few who from the quality perspective, ONLY ever regularly mentions just how woeful & dire the quality of the SPL is & it getting ONLY poorer year after year....
I've seen the goals and major incidents several times over the years on various Celtic VHS & DVD's etc... But I've never actually sat down and watched the entire game from minute 1 to 90. I'd imagine the vast majority of Celtic fans have never watched the full game start to finish.
@stephencruikshanks3794 Noone said that they hadn't watched the game. They said they hadn't watched the full 90 minute version. Don't know why that would trigger you though? Being a football fan isn't a competition.
It is actually difficult to find a copy of the whole game online now that Celtic TV doesn't have it in their available archive. The version i watched was poor quality and had the goals removed for licensing issues.
@@alanmorrison5981 £11.25 from Amazon for the DVD of the ''Full Match'' so hopefully that means the goals too & not forgetting them telling us that it's a & I quote '' DVD film in Black & White'' just in case some innocent souls were expecting something else...
Bernardo was having a great game - I don’t know stats but on the eye he was the one winning the second balls and keeping possession
I think Roger’s keeps hatate knowing that he can supply a winner
Bernardo does love a pass back. But I trust him to bring a ball down and control it more than anyone else in the midfield, and he does have quality and I think he’s improving slowly but progressively, imo.
@@Boo1023Boo Sadly I've still to be anything like convinced about 23 year old next month Bernardo for the fact, as you say, '' he loves a pass back'' even when he doesn't have to & the other wee fact too that he still, with monotonous regularity, continues to give the ball away far too easily & particularly when playing at the very highest level in Europe & on the positive, he does have a shot in him whilst having, to a certain degree, a wee bit of physicality & last but not least, most thankfully we didn't pay the very silly £6 million for him & if we had, that would have made a very silly hat-trick of very silly fees for £9.5 million with the add on, Idah & the humongously silly huge big whopping £11 million for Engels....
£24 million for the three of them is pretty good going. Could have done better, but still
Really informative. Thanks too all HH
The Dec/Jan "13 games in 41 days" schedule only serves to highlight how important it was to take care of business in August/September.
Aug/Sep we had one game a week, nice weather (by Scottish standards) nice pitches, a fresh squad off the back of a good pre-season.
Aug/Sep was a golden opportunity to put some easy points on the board and that is EXACTLY what we did. As a result of that we have given ourselves a cushion heading in to this hectic run of games.
13 games in 41 days - There is absolutely no chance of us giving a 10/10 performance in all those games, so we have to bear that in mind. The chances are that we will drop points or, whisper it, lose a game!
The consolation is that our rivals have a similar hectic run and because they didn't take care of business in Aug/Sep they now can't afford to drop points. Celtic also have huge cash reserves in the bank and come January we can bring in one or two players to help share the burden.
So all in all, it's more good news than bad IMHO.
spot on
Good day guys and girls it's wonderful being a Tim 🍀🇵🇸💚
Goodness, Juco is a worried man. Turn that frown upside down, Juco! It might not be as bad as you think!
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Regarding the League Cup Final, Sevco had some of their fans officiating the game, never forget Jorge Cadete
Schmeichel won the battle of the penalty shootout he actually dominated the pace he's in their faces he stands in front of the Rangers players by the spot just to display how big he is, at one point you see big Phil becomes concerned he realises what Schmeichel was upto only Hagi gave Schmeichel some grief back Schmeichel even gets Butland to stand well behind his goal line Schmeichel is pointing out to the assistant linesman were Butland is in his goal the very first penalty Schmeichel gets Tavernier to hand him the ball I knew then that Celtic would win Schmeichel was in control of the penalty shootout HH ☘️☘️☘️
Unreal stats on Engles. What's the answer in midfield to solve the creativity issue? Surely it has to be a long run in the team for Luke McCowan? I genuinely think he can replicate what O'Riley brought us.
I completely agree that the just turned 27 year old McCowan be given ''a long run in the team'' as you put it & for sure, he'll see some action, maybe even lots of action, in these ''13 games in 41 days'' the poor wee things, but you have to remember that football Managers have their very own special brand of huge, off the scale, egos, death defying stubbornness & a hypersensitive hypersensitivity that even a pubescent teenager would be completely embarrassed about & so in that context & ''context is everything'' as dear old Alan most rightly likes to remind us, our current Manager NEEDS £11million Engels to ''succeed'' far, far more than £1million, Celtic daft ever since a wee bairn, McCowan & ALL the difficulties that poses....
Top quality again 😊
HAIL HAIL 🍀💚🍀 the meltdown is delicious
Hatate started off really poor and when Bernardo was hooked instead of Hatate, I was honestly gobsmacked.
Hatate did play a bit better as the game went on and in to ET. That's probably down to tired legs all over the pitch and so Hatate's lack of drive & energy from minute 1 was finally matched by the rangers players around the 75 minute mark and in to extra time.
But surely to God we cannot keep starting Hatate in these games in the hope that he'll be able to do something late on when the opposition are tiring? That is something we should bring him on as a sub for.
Maybe Rodgers hands were tied with McCowan being cup-tied and he felt forced to go with Hatate as our only properly creative midfielder. It'll be interesting to see what McCowan's involvement is like now that the League cup is out of the way and he's now eligible for every game we play.
I can't believe im going to say this, but if teams set up mid block and allow our CB's to have lots of free possession then maybe we should have sent Rocky on loan and kept Lagerbielke in the squad as long passing is his forte.
Please don't be too harsh with the replies guys.
Problem is both are dug meat at defending
Why don’t we just push calmac up when we bring on Engels and let him play 6 if that’s his best position
My guess is they are trying to develop his creative side while we can still rely on the skipper
I can’t see Taylor being offered a bumper contract after a series of average to poor performances. The league cup was symptomatic of his season. Let’s hope Celtic can recruit a good left back in January.
Correct me if I’m wrong, and some of this might be game state, haven’t Rangers out xG’d Celtic with fair regularity over the last couple years? They did at least twice or thrice last year, I remember yinz discussing it back then. Have Celtic tended to underperform against Rangers, at least in chance creation, under Rodgers 2.0?
Since start 21/22 season Celtic are only 2.25 xG better off over 18 games but lost only 2 and drawn 4
@@alanmorrison5981thanks for the response! You are basically covering it right now as I type😅
How about giving Cummings some minutes? When does Kenny return? Which players from other Scottish teams have a stats pattern that would suit us?
Hi John i've never seen Cummings play so cannot comment. I'm told Kenny has genuine pace so maybe has a chance. No other Scottish players catch the eye above Lennon Miller and there is a concern at his lack of pace.
This game basically exposed every weakness that's been discussed at length by this forum over the previous 15/16 weeks.
Close down McGregor you close down Celtic. (Brugge)
Target Taylor, (weak at left back)
Hatate (lightweight)
Engles (not press resistant)
Kyogo (not really a game for him)
Idah (flattering again to decieve)
Rodgers (too slow to change)
Next two windows crucial!
apart from that, life it good!
Oh, it was a game for Kyogo all right. Trouble is none of his teammates seemed to know it. When Kuhn was through on goal early on all he had to do was slip the ball through to the wee man to tap into an empty net. Kyogo also now spends much of his time in defence heading the ball away at corners and set pieces presumably under instructions. Personally I think this is a bit of a waste of a top striker on the break but Brendan knows best! 🤔
@gezobel I don't disagree, maybe I should have said not set up for Kyogo, but the podcast covers it, I'm sat in the North Upper watching him make run after run off the ball and not be found, it's pretty frustrating because as you say it's a waste not only of his talent but also a jersey at times, but who are we, undefeated all season, so as Alan says life is good!
Here's hoping there's a process to trust in! 🙏
@@gezobel Kyogo was behind the defenders, don't think that pass was on. Kuhn was playing for the penalty in my opinion, he showed enough of the ball hoping the keeper would dive for it and bring him down. Watch it again, his head is down waiting for contact, doubt he seen Kyogo.
And yet here we are 11 clear and now having won 3 trophies this calendar year and a distinct possibility of CL playoff qualification. Even the Lisbon Lions didn't win every game they played or play beautiful flowing football every match. Agree on Kyogo though - need to find a way to get the ball through to him much earlier. We'd notice it if he left though - even just for his pressing ability (let alone the goals he scores in big games!) He makes so many good runs behind and with exception of Hatate occasionally and LM he very rarely gets played in.
Not to be picky, but Butland guessed the right side for 2 penalties, Engels and Hatate's.
He's still crap at stopping penalties.
Sorry. 😅
Not as big a mistake as me though, shouting for McCowan to come on at HT, not realising he was cup-tied. 🫤
That's what stress of watching the 1st half does to a Celtic fan.🫣
@@jamesmcmullan1306Apart from LB, the midfield is where we are at our weakest. Hatate is often woeful and I fail to see what Engels has to offer. Folk tell me that he is young and will 'come good' in time but if that is the case he shouldn't be playing in the first place if he isn't ready especially at CL level? McCowan and Bernardo are the best we have right now, imv.
@@gezobelI agree on Engles. He wasn’t particularly impressive when “on form” early in the season. Bernardo has showed progression at least and battles well
Jesus christ man I'd hate to have watched this if we actually lost 😭
It wasn't that bad, but for sure, it was all a bit strangely subdued as I've said elsewhere, but maybe too you might not be aware that The Huddle Breakdown is just completely NOT a happy clappy, aren't we just total world beaters & made the Rangers greet again type of podcast & so for me & quite a few others, that is a usp I just don't want them ever to even slightly deflect from, never mind lose....
@frankbrennan1619 No I'm completely aware of what the show is, I'm a subscriber. A bit too negative IMO, but that's me. If you can't switch off to enjoy winning a trophy then what's the point in supporting a team
@@seerysean So many confuse, some wilfully so I'm sure, so-called ''negativity'' with positive realism & living in the real world & whatever else The Huddle Breakdown is, it most certainly is never ''negative'' & particularly in the context of & as a subscriber to the channel, you know exactly the identity of the person who most rightly frequently likes to remind us that ''context is everything'' The Huddle Breakdown is ALL about their facts & data, rather than jumping about hysterically saying ''everything is a disaster'' when it COMPLETELY isn't or ''we're a Team of world beaters'' when we're COMPLETELY not, but yes, they could have been a lot more effervescent about the significance of us winning oor 119th trophy.
@@seerysean Sorry Sean but i covered this i believe on the pod. Happy on the inside, analytical on the outside!
For me, bit of a ''strange'' one from The Huddle Breakdown, starting with the headline '' Celtic League Cup Champions 24/25'' when instead it should say, '' Celtic League Cup Winners 24/25'' & why didn't any of them mention the fact that we've now won 119 trophies & the huge big significance of this momentous achievement in the history of Celtic Football Club & indeed the history of Scottish football as a whole, goodness only knows, but just maybe they were all still a wee bit underwhelmed after Sunday's game & how, like it or not, it really could have gone either way & that ''penalty'' of theirs in extra time they never got & the fact too that for the first time ever, Clementine actually succeeded in nullifying Wee Callum for basically the whole of the game.....
1. the title is a wee joke at others' pumped up self importance and 2. the 119 isn't mentioned as it isn't important to us to shout about pretendy accolades
@@alanmorrison5981 I'm obviously completely missing something, so please enlighten me as to how the world famous Celtic Football Club now having won 119 trophies that means us ONLY currently sitting in first place as the most successful League Football Club in quite literally the whole of world football, for the number of trophies won & so in that context & ''context is everything'' as some guy, you might know him, frequently most rightly likes to remind us all, is such a genuinely momentous achievement, ANY kind of so - called ''pretendy accolade'' as you so delicately describe it?
@@frankbrennan1619 Because it's bullshit Frank. Any list of "worlds most" with Linfield and Al Ahly in the top four is no indicator of footballing quality in the global arena. How much is a European Cup worth relative to a Northern Irish Milk Cup or Scottish League Cup. It's pretendy bollox best left to those with entitlement issues.
that's yer context my dear old friend 😘
@@alanmorrison5981 You disappoint me my dear old friend, because I never thought, not even for a nano second, that someone of your erudition & lover of facts & data, wid ever go doon the well worn & most erroneous route, of ''quality over quantity'' as the sole & complete motivating & relevant factor & particularly in the context of (you know the rest!) me completely NOT mentioning the quality ''angle'' as to our historic winning of oor now 119th trophy & where that puts us currently in world football & even more so when I'm one of the very, very, few who from the quality perspective, ONLY ever regularly mentions just how woeful & dire the quality of the SPL is & it getting ONLY poorer year after year....
A so called Celtic fhan who has never watched the 67 final?
whos that
I've seen the goals and major incidents several times over the years on various Celtic VHS & DVD's etc...
But I've never actually sat down and watched the entire game from minute 1 to 90. I'd imagine the vast majority of Celtic fans have never watched the full game start to finish.
@stephencruikshanks3794 Noone said that they hadn't watched the game. They said they hadn't watched the full 90 minute version. Don't know why that would trigger you though? Being a football fan isn't a competition.
It is actually difficult to find a copy of the whole game online now that Celtic TV doesn't have it in their available archive. The version i watched was poor quality and had the goals removed for licensing issues.
@@alanmorrison5981 £11.25 from Amazon for the DVD of the ''Full Match'' so hopefully that means the goals too & not forgetting them telling us that it's a & I quote '' DVD film in Black & White'' just in case some innocent souls were expecting something else...