Teardown of an 130 Year Old Building
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Let's bet on who's gonna finish first their house renovation between Alexandre and Laura Kampf
Thank you, that's exactly what I was thinking!
Hahaha. Nice!
Glad I’m not the only one watching both 😹😸
Thank you, I didn’t knew her
A flat probably is much faster than a house :D
I'm in the US, and I believe the decoritive ring around the light fixture is called a medallion (or ceiling medallion).
Alex, so in Canada when we deal with multi unit buildings, there is something called a "Party Wall" essentially it is 2 walls separated by 1" or so of air gap. If you have enough room you could build another wall which would give you separation and better sound isolation. Cheers, GL with your project.
I’m not the only Canadian here lol
On new projects It’s normal to do so in Norway as well of course with fire protection layer on each side
I don’t think he would have the space, that adjoining wall is right next to the front door
@@almostanengineer yeah was my suspicions as well, but wasn't sure. Could always relocate the front door. :)
I did this kind of tear down for a complete house a few years ago. Plasterboards are the worst. It's all fun and stuff for builders, but it's horrible to tear it down again and disposal is at least in Germany far away from cheap. We had also a nailed wooden ceiling and a friend of mine was pulling it down with a nail puller. Nearly got buried below it, since after pulling a little the complete ceiling came down. A ladder luckily saved him :D Really looking forward how you will solve heating and electrical questions. This is often an ambitious question in old houses like yours. Happy building!
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The 'rosett' is called a ceiling rose in English. Good luck with your renovation!
Also called a ceiling medallion
Thank you for documenting your reno. It will not directly help me but I live in 40s building in NYC and there is so much weird stuff and no one ever does reno on old apartments. For example, some walls are lathe and plaster, except lathe is metal wire mash rather than more common wood. Took me a while to figure out why stud finders showed the whole wall as both studs and emitting electrical signal.
Keep doing this series. It's super fun!!!
Fun series. I can’t believe they use dirt in between floors. That seems crazy.
These are so fun. Thanks guys!!!
15:00 Man, for some reason, this looks kinda dope... Idk why, but the look of that room just has something to it...
More tearing down pleaseee
It's amazing how clean you keep everything while in demolition! Great job. Looking forward to following along, seeing as my own project starts in august!
New video! Awesome, been looking forward to seeing this continue
Wow this is tearing down to the bare essentials, I'm usually more into covering like not seen not there kinda person ;)
The place is definitely looking much better already, Alexandre! Fantastic work! 😃
Looking forward to the rebuilding!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
05:03 Here in the US those are known as plaster medallions.
10:00 I don't understand why you didn't have a trash barrel next to you to toss all those brick pieces into. That would have saved loads of work having to pick it up again off the floor and also cut down on the dust and cleanup time.
With a demo it would have been nice to build a trash chute out one of the windows to a dumpster on the street IF there was a space to stage something like that. Or have a chute you could back a truck under temporarily and send everything down the chute once every few days.
Please cover those floor openings before you break an ankle.
I love that wooden ceiling, you should consider that as an option, it’s five the place a really warm feel
Hey, nice work! I think you forgot to put the link for the cyclone separators... Or it's simply me to be stupid ahah
Alexandre, I'm find this content very interesting!
I admire your ambition. This is a big job!
As you know getting rid of the debris is a lot of work. I think the last person remodeling the apartment didn't want to take all those bricks out so they just stacked them up in the voids of the wall. Are you going to take the floor up also?
You said they filled the floors with dust on purpose when the build them? Why was this done?
Please keep that wooden ceiling and brick walls! (if you can) They bring so much warmth and quality to a home.
Some brick walls were never meant to be exposed.
also bear in mind most of that dust from neighbours floor will be dead skin. lovely :P
So far so good. Looking forward to the next video!
some mass is quite nice if you have upstairs neighbors, also insulation doesnt do anything in that case. if you have the top apartment good call
They're called "ceiling roses" in English. Love the series mate, keep going
I'm not an architect or engineer, so I'm wondering if removing all of those walls would somehow compromise the structural integrity of the ceiling and affect how much weight the floor above can bear
It would not because they are Load-bearing walls they are just framing
wow tthis is pretty rough and crazy way to handle demo and rebuilt. Are other people living is this building?
There must be some kind of goop that you could have sprayed on the ceiling to seal it?
You said you'd link to the 3D printed dust extractor thingy, but I can't see a link :)
LOVING THIS PROJECT!! \m/
Isn’t the boards holding up most of the actually the old building floor boards?
make sure your laser is properly calibrated... I've had to fix a lot of things done with a laser that turned out to be not level...
Good point. Have exactly the same Dewalt, and it's slightly off. Better check first
Great! :D I want more! :) I'm very excited what you will create in this space :)
Personally I’d love you to keep the tradition of adding more and more plaster board until a future owner has to deal with 5 layers of the stuff and a ceiling 3 inches too short
You must build a brick wall with your neighbors 😵💫
Things learned - always have your SO break down the wall in case there are neighbours on the other side - check!
"Rip it out!"
- John Keating -
4:49 probably a plaster medallion.
I want to know why there is dirt in the floor?
I cannot believe you dumped the dirt into your floor?!
Starts tearing down ceiling in grey sweater.... Next scene, dark sweater. ... that's crazy dirty. ;) (YES, I know it was a cut)
Feeling slightly sorry for the downstairs neighbours!
Aagh! I felt itchy just watching all that dust. Think I would've kept the windows open with a fan facing outside, would've pulled a a lot of that dust out straight away. Maybe not allowed though if they've a neighbours balcony below!
So I gather that leveling the foundation was not an option? Or worse, someone decides to level the foundation after you've re-leveled your apartment. That'd be a bummer. :)
Why don’t you use that brick and build a brick wall between you and the neighbours near the entrance and then insulate and sound dampen the entire wall at once. (like build a wall in between the metal troughs instead of breaking the partition).
poor neighbors :D
Have any of the neighbours complained about the noise or dust already?
First you are awesome
Hidden treasure would've been nice.
why not also take down the stuff on the outer wall ?
love these construction videos! 😎
*destruction ;)
11:00 Can you share the video link regarding the dust cyclone thingy?
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the "rosett" was used when the chandelier/candelabra had lit candles for fire protection
It is called the same in English - so I guess he found the English word for it too :D
Nice.
But did you not say that you will lower the floor so why fill it with dust?
Even if not lowering the floor... WHY fill it with dust??!! 🤢🤮💩
I think he will do it later. So dust and debris will need to be removed anyway. Just a little bit more.
The dirt/dust is the fire/insulation barrier from 100+ years ago. Modern buildings use a concrete floor but this was used in that area at that time. So he just moved a small volume from his above neighbors to enhance his down neighbor's separation. Why throw away what can be reused?
@@kpmathis71 ... because that hundred years old dust is an ugly mess that will fall through the subfloor in the underneath apartment, or be breath by who lives in this apartment. And with very poor insulation effect.
Once you have made the effort to collected it, I think it's wiser to dispose it and eventually provide an actual insulation layer under the floor...
But it's only my personal opinion 😉
I can't imagine collecting all that dirt and then pouring into the floor cavity. I watched that part 5 times trying to understand what was happening. It's such an odd avoidable thing to do, I still feel like I don't understand.
Same here
Agree, I would not have done that either, but each to their own.
Now it's no longer his problem, but his downstairs neighbours problem.
yeah, it was pretty funny he complained about it falling down from upstairs only to put it in his own floor. Best would probably have been to get a vacuum truck and get rid of it in the floor as well and replace it with proper insulation.
That dirt is called "deafening" (at least in parts of the UK) and is quite effective sound insulation. The downstairs apartment will appreciate the extra insulation, particularly with all the upcoming renovation noise.
I'm sure the downstairs neighbors appreciated that pile of bricks falling over. ;)
Yeah that was crazy - seems like these guys are demolishing pretty much everything including structural supports?
@@batterbury4477 Was that a question or are you just trolling...? There was no structural supports. Neither the wall next to the appliances was load bearing nor a wall of obviously very loosely stacked bricks would ever by structurally relevant.
Please link to the specific part you're talking about, I watched the whole video and saw nothing structurally relevant being affected.
@@kontoname Just Looking at overall work for headers and structural framing and pretty obvious some load bearing interior walls gone- you can do that but need to have a column or pillar with headers . For info see UA-cam Nate Murphy - abandoned house in Spain ; its a masterclass in restoration and rebuild with over 3 million views
@@batterbury4477 This renovation feels odd to me, also the waste of old good materials that looks at least 80 years old for no reason. I think watching the Second Empire Strikes Back and Les Jêromes renovations made me expect that every person who purchase an old house will have respect for the building, it's history and be careful with the original materials since they will always be the best option for anything if they are in good conditions. I mean, a beadboard that survived over a century in a house is definetly superior to a fresh pine board...
In English we call it a ceiling rose, although these days it that also refers to an electrical junction that you hang a light from.
In italian as well they are called a variation of rose: either "rosone" or "rosetta"...
Going to give some insight from working on historic URM/Timber buildings. Us designers like to create perfectly square and plumb objects but with existing conditions like this make sure to plan for variation and purposeful imperfections.
Before building out the ceiling you should also take measurements from laser up and down to verify both and . If the ceiling is going to get furred down to be level it might result in creating variation of floor to ceiling heights that can be more noticeable than maintaining a flat & purposeful slope. I've done jobs were we cut out columns and jacked up lower floors to help with 100 years of inconsistent settling between the wood frame and exterior masonry frame, you wont have that option but you can shim your floor and ceiling for more flat end condition. Also consider how the drop along the exterior façade will look and try and maintain proportions to the windows, you might have to cheat a dimension between level and the top of window header but you can maintain a flat datum for aesthetics.
Similar to what others have mentioned you might need to rebuild with two layers of plasterboard for fire separation. Not sure what its called where you are but in the US it would be called Type-X Gyp Bd. Acoustics also benefits from adding mass in timber frame floor constructions so two or more layers is best. Its a bit counterintuitive but be cautious on adding z-clips or non solid furring on the ceiling as it can create a drum like echo if not done exactly right. Even if not required by code the two layers is a good idea.
A little bit of foam is fine but please don't spray those timbers entirely with foam, if this building has stood for a hundred years think about future renovations and the ability to remove and renovate in the future, a mineral wool/batt insulation in the ceiling would be more than adequate. Someone might want cool looking exposed beams in the future.
Overall you always have a great project that is very insightful and look forward to see what and how you build out your space!
The only problem with removing the two layers of plasterboard from the ceiling is two layers were probably there for fire protection between you apartment and the one above and it may be mandatory for building regulations to have at least two layers
I was going to say I really hope at least makes sure he fire seals the ceiling at least but with a property this old I can’t imagine it having fire ratings in all the apartments
Jupp, norwegian building code is 2 x 13mm layers of plasterboard, *or* 1 layer of some 15mm special type plasterboard which is more expensive, but within code. Also, sound dampening if someone lives above. However, since he's planning on putting some insulation up there for dampening and heat retention, I'm guessing he's going to try and level the ceiling properly by lowering it a bit, and probably adding plasterboard again to code :)
Weather or not it is a building regulation requirement 2 layers of plasterboard definitely reduce the spread of fire and reduce noise transmission, which is a good idea. It would be bad enough to burn down ones own apartment without getting sued for burning down your neighbours
Yep, in the UK, it required 2 layers plasterboard and if using downlight, it need to be fire rated too.
I feel like there will be many cases of "non-orthodox" aproach by him. There were many cases where he would do something by his own best judgment that's simply detrimental to the "repair." I fear the same will be here in this renovation. But really hope he is gonna be code compliant. Apartments are never your own property where you can do whatever you feel like it, because it concerns all the neighbours and also future owners. Still going to watch it :) gonna hate it or love it ;)
Seeing the ceilling now, knowing your floor is the same, you may run into problems with a floor made of cement. It may be questionable if this construction will carry the weight
They're going to use lightweight cement. That's where you use something like hammer-milled corn cobs or even foam as your aggregate.
@@RussellNelson Cool! I actually knew that exists, but wouldn't have considered here. Since the think about heated floors. Well if the pipes are in the upmost layers it might still work, but lower in, they wouldn't transfer the heat as it should since those kinds of concrete insulate a bit too well for floor heating.
What? Dumping the dust in the floor? I dont know if i like that.
Me neither, dust is a fire hazard.
I think he said he was going to be taking the floor up, so I assume they will deal with the dust then 🤷♂️
@@BlacksmithGen The majority isn't dust. In old buildings like this there's often sand or dirt used as sound isolation in the floor, that's where the "dust" in the celling came from. It's been filtering down through the gaps between the planks above from the layer of sand in the floor above. The floor was probably pretty tight when new, but over the years the wood have dried out and the gaps widened. Then there's some plaster, which again isn't going to burn, and finally a little dust from the wood paneling he tore down. In total it's not something that will be a fire hazard any more than the wood planks in the floor and roof.
What can be more problematic is that sometimes some pretty nasty crap was used as filling so it might be a good idea to check the composition and possibly replace the filling with fresh sand.
A thing to remember is that if you ever have water damage from leaking home appliances the sand will have to be replaced as it's almost impossible to dry a huge sand bed in place.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 fair enough, thanks for the info
Another fantastic video as usual... Just planning ahead (oops, the ceiling is already removed). If you now have a fantastically level ceiling, does this not mean that your window frames will be slightly slanting. The end result is the same as having wonky picture frames... I think I'd rather the whole thing was slightly off, but everything aligned in its unaligned plane
I did the exact same thing last year. Bought a 120 year old apartment in the middle of Copenhagen. The guy who lived there haven’t done a thing in over 55 years! It was seriously a time capsule. There where 5 layers of floors in one part of the apartment, which meant that we got about 16cm extra of hight 😮💨😂 we found old coins hidden under the floor and a bunch of other interesting things!
I wish you all the best luck with the apartment! It’s a journey 😁
13:57 Remember how “The Cask of Amontillado” by Edgar Allan Poe ends?
Could you please share the cyclone 3d print file, I’d like to try printing one.
Interesting project! Personal opinion here: flat and level are overrated in historic buildings. My house was built around 1750 and the "wonkiness" is part of its charm and its history.
Stop removing all the orginal beautiful wood roof paneling
I'm monitoring that dust cloud on radar, its currently over Boston, Mass
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During my renovation I've used a fan from a pedestal fan mounted on in hole of mdf board attached in a window opening, that way all the dust gets sucked out of the room quickly. It also keeps the rest of the building cleaner because of the under pressure it creates.
I don't think the munic counsel of Oslo would react positively to building dust being blown out in the middle of the street, smack bang in the center of Norways capital. I know that in Denmark, it results in a hefty fine, unless you've gained permission to do so, which usually means having a construction company on site to do the work
@@Arterexius can try with a viledon filter arrangement probably
I would take up that subfloor (plywood) and level out all of the beams. When the floor was patched before, the room was divided with walls. Even if you put a new subfloor on top of the existing one, you will likely have humps that will annoy you later. Plus you can possibly lower it closer to original so the door headers are right.
Those trenches in the floor give me the creeps. I think I would have broken have a dozen feet, legs and arms by tripping over them.
Is it Just me or keeping a washing machine and fridge out, not covered during this kind of work is ABSOLUTLY BARBARIC 😯
Also. The fact that you Have putted the dirt under the floor it only transfered the problem to your neighbor from down stairs 😐 some day they might strip the ceiling as well
Great project as always. I would like to see how you tackle the appartment sound insulation in general (if you are planning any) and maybe I can learn some tips. Because of my new neighbors, I'm planning to do some wall sound insulation, because right now it's just a thin sort of plaster/wood wall and it lets any sounds through like a drum.
Jepp, lots of cool stuff planned :))
Fine Homebuilding had an article on preventing sound transmission through a wall. The trick is to use separate studs for each side of the wall, so that you don't have a continuous path of material to transmit sound through the wall.
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I know you're planning to insulate and sound damp that wall, but I would reach out to the neighbor and ask them if they would mind you removing that flimsy wall panel and adding a well-framed section in between the apartments.
If they say yes, you can build up a *much* more heavy duty section instead of risking being blamed for any issues with that cheap metal framing later.
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This is what the upstairs neighbour is doing
where did the link for the Cyclone go :)
12:25 "how to expand your apartment" 😂
I hope you did an asbestos test before tearing it apart.
Called a ceiling rose in the UK.
What is the reason for the dirt in the floor in the first place?
I must admit that you are one lucky fellow to have found a woman willing to not only put up with this extreme demolition and remodeling of this nature but to take the trip with you, hammer in hand so to speak, I would suggest you not let her escape!
She's a keeper.
what's the over/under on how many parts will be 3D printed?
Not taking that bet!
I think you can try putting your camera higher so you don't need to always bend over for getting into the frame. It makes it seem like the ceiling is much lower than it is in reality
No link to the cyclone files?
I cannot understand why you've put the already collected dirt back to your apartment, just in a different place 🤯🤦♀️ Including dust mites and soo much more fun stuff 😐 Other than that great process! 👏
Alexandre, you couldn't find an English word for the rosette, because English adopted the French word.
I don't remember if I made this joke last time or not, but in case I didn't, your girl looks like he's fixing to remind you that "you know nothing, Alexandre Chappel."
Glad you lucked out on that second layer in the ceiling. And the Roman ceiling medallion was a fun find.
YAY! Spare bricks! Useful in case you need to replace something during the project.
I like it. I enjoy this content. It's like seeing HGTV but for real, with real people and real problems, not fake problems like a network show. Keep it coming!
I would gladly take thoose bricks. However traveling that far probably doesnt make sense. ^^
Looks like a treasure hunt, hope you saved those amazing bricks for a future project! Also not understanding why you would dump the dirt in the floor. Could be a future health hazard. I would remove that and throw away.
So basically you are building this apartment "from scratch". Lots of work ahead of you :)
Great video Alexandre - really looking forward to the rest. The ceiling thing you mention we call a ceiling rose in the UK. Very traditional and sadly disappearing from many properties. Originally to protect the ceiling from the candles, and now just for decoration of course.
Love it 🙋♂️
Love this! Live 10 minutes away from where you are renovating - so if you need a hand screwing and holding plasterboard, let me know :)
They are called a ceiling rose in English :) -- here in Australia, in the older (federation style) houses it was more common on plastered ceilings, but not UNcommon on timber ceilings too :)