What is considered high mileage for motorcycles?
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Dino’s Tinker Shed, S2 Ep50, what is considered high mileage for motorcycles?
In this episode, My DR650 turns 50, 50,000km that is, and to many, that is a lot of miles for a motorcycle. I want to tell you about my thoughts on high milage motorcycles and perhaps give you a new perspective on the value and reliability of a bike with miles cresting the half century mark.
Now this video is not going to be a how to buy a used motorcycle video, if you are looking for that check out this video, • How to inspect a motor... , but it will give you my thoughts on why the simple DR650 is a bike that lasts and lasts and a few of the items to be aware of when purchasing one.
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TIME CODE CHAPTERS:
00:00- Cold Opening
01:32- Introduction
01:51- Why did I buy a high milage DR650?
06:04- Buying a High Milage DR650
09:06- Tinkering on the bike
12:34- Older bikes equals more service
14:18- Garage queen vs a rider
16:47- Used vs new?
19:42- What would I buy today?
22:49- Summary
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Another great video. I have a 2019 model that I bought new and have 26,291 miles of pure trouble free FUN.
2014 DR650 bought with 7000 miles in 2019 before the pandemic. Bike had FMF Exhaust, Bar Risers and 1/1/4 bars, IMS 4.9 tank, jetted, air box modification, seat concepts seat, and the DR250 tail light modification. It cost $3000 and before the pandemic the owner was getting low ball offers for $2500 on Facebook Market Place. I also got all the original parts and he was crazy with oil changes every 1000 miles but he was only doing 1000 miles a year. Now has almost 27,000 miles. I change the oil every 3000 miles (Rotella T6) and clean and oil both filters. Only thing the bike has needed was a new battery, chain and sprockets and fork seals. I don't baby it and it sees quite a bit of trail use.
Thanks for the feedback, 27k miles is a lot 😮 , Karl always uses Rotella as well and always has. He's had great luck with it.
Dino
Dino, you are quickly becoming the high standard for DR advice. Keep up the great content and plan a trip put to Lanark County in the future!
Thank you so much, a trip out your way would be great, just need to find the time lol.
Dino, great DR content and you're much like me. I picked up a 95 about 9 yrs ago for $1300 from the original owner that kept it in a heated, carpeted garage and have been tinkering on it ever since. It's at 63k now and runs better than a new one I took out for a test ride at our local dealer. I have done the following, full Bose cycle sound system for those long rides, GSXR muffler, TM40 pumper carb installed from scratch, not a kit, soft side bags and a great rear trunk added that came from an 80s Yamaha SR250 with some custom graphics added here and there. I wish I could upgrade the seat but 95s have limited after market parts available. I did add a Sit and Fly cover thats like a mesh that makes the seat tolerable. My project for this year is a new Barnett clutch. The TM40 and GSXR mods increased the power to the point that the clutch slips a bit above 4500 under load. My goal is to keep this bike for as long as I can continue to ride. If you're ever in the Cambridge area you might run into me. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the comment, your bike sounds like it's kitted out very well, I like the common sense mods of using parts from other bikes as well. I'm not often in Cambridge but I do ride in that area. I'll keep an eye out for you. I would be interested to see your mods.
Thank you again
Dino
Nice video Dino! I bought my DR650 new in December 2014 (almost 8 years ago). I used it as my commuter bike and have since clocked up 97,500km! Apart from the rooster start issue, it’s been pretty much trouble free. Regular servicing (every 6,000km) seems to be the key. As the old girl was coming up to the 100k, I bought an Africa Twin to replace her. Once I had the AT, couldn’t bring myself to part from her and have turned her into an adventure bike with 20L fuel tank, TKC80’s, bashplate, Mosko Moto Reckless luggage and other mods. We’ve been on camping trips and I look forward to keeping her well past the 100,000km mark!
Wow, 100,000km, now that is impressive. I can see why you kept it, the bike gets under your skin and its such an easy bike to both ride and enjoy. sounds like you have her fitted out nice.
Thank you comment and sharing about your bikes.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed I forgot to say - my first chain and sprockets lasted 96,000 km! I used a Scottoiler from new which makes a massive difference to chain-life. Plus a sympathetic throttle hand I guess!😂
Thank you Dino. I am in the market to purchase an enduro. I had a 2002 1150GSA and it was great, but very heavy. I sold it many years ago. I loved riding and want to get back into it. Your videos/knowledge have given me a huge advantage in what to look for in a used DR650. I appreciate you creating quality videos. May your 2023 be a grand year of riding adventures. Cheers
Hello Dino, love the channel. I bought a 2006 DR650 with 42,000 miles 2 months ago. Currently have 46,000. No signs of slowing down as I live in Southern California!
Nice, I bought a used truck about 15 years ago in San Bernardino California, it was a great trip, flew out and drove it home. You have a beautiful state.
Dino
I have 2 DR's('02 and '04) with over 80,000kms. I haven't noticed any drop off in performance. My brother bought a DR650 in '09, brand new. It's current status is: 1,800kms(that's right, eighteen hundred) and it now belongs to me. So I lied, I have 3 DR650's.
LOL 3 DRs, that's wicked. and it is nice that you can directly compare performance between the new and old bikes. Great comment and very informative, thank you.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Thanks for the reply Dino. I first saw your video about riding from Niagara to Lake Huron. I like your style and chuffed to see somebody sort of local(I'm in Hamilton). Then just recently I saw your video about ProCycle jet kit. I want to stay with the original carb on the newest DR650. I can't remember what they feel like as I've been using TM40 flat slide pumper on the other two DR's, like forever. Keep up the good work, I enjoy you channel.
I have 2 as well! 09 and 11. Both with about 25k km on them. They still run like a champ.
hey dino great point you bring up about the lower milage bikes
Thank you, I am glad you think so. Thank you for the comment.
Dino
In February this year I picked up a 2012 DR with only about 2970 miles on the clock; it ticked over 3k miles while I was riding it home lol. With the miles being so low you'd think I would be in the clear regarding issues, but getting such an old bike with so few miles presents a whole different host of potential concerns. My initial concern was checking anything rubber for cracking from lack of movement. The original tires that were still on it were getting a bit dry, but everything else seemed okay. Throughout the decade of almost constant sitting, however, I believe the pulse coil had built up some corrosion or something and I had it fail on me about 1500 miles into a week-long trip. I'm just glad it didn't happen even a day sooner when I was in the Colorado mountains doing some relatively hardcore trail riding by my standards. Instead it happened "only" 500 or so miles away from home on my way back to Houston. After replacing that coil though, everything else has been fine so far. But yeah, just interesting that my position is such a polar opposite from what most DR riders are concerned with.
Great comment, thank you for sharing, I've had a few friends with similar experiences, I think the best thing for anything mechanical is for it to get used, again, thank you.
Dino
Cant go wrong with a DR 💪
Can't go wrong watching Biker Bytes either! Thanks for the comment.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed thank you kindly sir 🙌
Well Dino being in Australia and they are obsolete now, I was able to purchase a new one. I wanted to buy a new unit for a trip around Australia one day. I picked it up in July and it’s done 1126km.
Keep up the good content and between you, moto dans, biker bytes and bikerbits always good watching!
Wow, including me with those three is high praise 😀, thank you, those guys really have great content. The dr may be obsolete but that does not mean they are useless lol, fun simple bikes.
Thanks for the comment
Dino
Mine is a 2014 which I am its second owner. It was $7990 AUD brand new when it was purchased by the previous owner and I purchased it in 2022 with 21,000 klm on it for $5250 AUD. They are not available here in Australia anymore and the last ones were sold for $11, 890 AUD. The positive about buying pre-owned is they usually have additional accesories already on the them which is some benefit. I have heard comments about DR's doing 100, 000 klms with regular oil changes and a good maintenace schedule.
I have heard the same thing about 100k, the key as you point out is oil changes and good service. Simple as a stick in some ways.
Thanks for the comment.
Dino
thank you for sharing all of your knowledge with the community Dino
When it comes to the DR650, age and milage is just a number.
Very true
Many Happy Returns - Long may the "Bush Pig" Reign. Thoroughly enjoy watching your vids Dino, keep up the great work. Cheers from Ballarat Australia
Thank you for the comment, so glad you enjoy the content , now I'll go and look up where in Australia Ballarat is, very cool name.
Thanks again Dino
Hi Dino, great video, great bike! congrats on your 50,000 kilometers! I have a 2017 DR650 which I bought new and have 17,000 kilometers so far. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the feedback RJ !
Dino
Hallo Dino from Denmark.. love you video thanks.. i have a DR 650 from 1995 and it has gone 36000 km now and no problems. love it i got i 2 years ago and then it has gone 23000 km then.
Thank you for the comment, these DRs just keep on going for sure. I am glad you enjoy the content.
Dino
thank you so much awesome content and knowledge safe travels and cheers!
I had a 2007 DR 650 with 25,000 miles it ran great, wish I had not sold it. Wanted fuel injection, 6 speeds and modern electronics .
That's a lot of miles, I do understand the desire for the FI and 6 gears, I hope Suzuki sees the need for a more modern DR at some point.
Dino
Nice one Dino. I agree a well maintained high mileage bike will be a much better steed than a garage queen. They are usually cheaper to. Always look for regular maintenance over low kms any day. New is another option if it's available but all the expensive accessories need to be taken into consideration to.
Mine is a 2017 with 32000kms bought it in 2018 with 7000kms. Biggest issue I have had was 3rd gear circlip came out in an oil change. Which involved a full strip and replacement of third and 5th gears.
Nice seeing the shot of the falls went there as a kid, love to go back one day!
Thanks for the comment Dan, you've put on a lot kilometers in a few years, love watching your travel videos . Total strip down must have been interesting, do you have a video on That?
Thanks again, Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed Thanks!
No i didn't unfortunately it was the first time i had done that on the DR just wanted to see how i would go. Got plenty of pics though, fairly straight forward to be honest i had to take the casing into to suzuki to get them to pull the flywheel off with a special tool other than that i had no issues.
Your thought processes are sound regarding the DR. Some years ago I wanted a low milage DR but the low km bikes were near new price. A friend and I approached a dealer and said we will have one each and got a good deal. I kitted mine out for a long outback and desert runs in Aus -safari tank, power outlets, tool tube, higher bars etc. The DR is not my main motorcycle but I enjoy the simplicity and importantly it is light so I can pick it up if I drop it in the sand. I have shipped the DR to New Zealand and travelled around the South Island for a month or so. Perfect bike for there. Mine has half the milage of yours. I service /modify mine myself and as I do not want to be held up in some remote location I have modified a few things - neutral switch bolts wired (JIS bolts and one was working loose), oil seal retainer for gear shifter, case protector near front sprocket, power outlets, screen, bark busters to save levers in a drop, additional fuel filters. I use a handlebar mounted GPS and have fitted a cycle computer for accurate speed/distance tracking. Apologies for being long winded.
No apologized needed Mal, I think you and I have the same type of thought process. I still need to add some protection to mine and adjust the gearing a bit but overall, it is a great, simple, bike that most people can repair and modify themselves.
I like the cycle computer idea; I may have to borrow that idea.
As always Mal, thank you for your great comment.
Dino
Did you put a tachometer on? Its one of the first add ons I'm going to plonk on ..my n e w dr when I get it..waiting for shop to uncrate one. The electronic solid state controls really put me off considering most other bikes..I have my own opinions on that you see.
@@wendygerrish4964 I have not put a tachometer on the bike but I agree it is an important instruments. I try not to rev my DR too much and tend to go by sound. I did not want to cut into anything other than the lighting circuit. Reason - the DR is simple and when starting the lights stay on. For cold mornings I wanted all the battery power going to the starter motor so I have a switch that I can turn the headlight off and turn it back on when the bike starts.(You could carry a jump starter)
Great video, Dino! Love your in depth discussions, keep up the great work!
Thank you, glad you like the format, thanks for taking the time to comment
Dino
I bought my DR with 18,000k and 2 hours later drove it 6000km across the whole of Australia from Sydney to Perth. Didn't miss a beat!!
Wow, I like that confidence!
Dino
Just picked up my first dr. I love your channel. Your videos have been super helpful getting it running again.
Very glad I can help, and I'm glad you enjoy the Channel.
Dino
A good and useful video - information for potential motorcyclists based on experience. Have to be happy with that!
Thanks Mal, always nice to see your comments. 😁
Dino
Great video! Love your work and how you explain things. Looking for a good used bike now can be a challenge. Thumbs up!
Thanks for the comments and the kind words, I'm glad you enjoy the content
Dino
Hey Dino. I have had a DR a little over a year. I only have 8000 miles on it but it feels like it will easily do thousands of miles without issues. It is nice to hear you found the bike so good with your mileage. Funny thing i have wanted to buy a dual sport for years. Just never did. I decided the time was right and could not find a used one for a good price. Of course prices went crazy after covid. I found a new one and have been as pleased with this motorcycle purchase as any bike i have bought! I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the comment and I'm happy you got your dual sport! Prices really are crazy right now for sure.
I'm glad you enjoy the content, I'm still working on snowmobile videos right now but will be back onto the DR before long.
Dino
Great video, thanks for sharing!
I bought my 2011 DR650 in June with 20,000km for $4,900 CAD. I figured it was a good deal because it came with ~$1200 in mods that I was planning to do anyway, and it looked nearly new. I have been super happy with it.
Thanks for the comment, that's a good price.
Dino
Happy 50th, Dino. 😁
Thank you
Dino
nice channel thanks dino"s
your welcome
Dino
Great video!
I bought a 2018 DR650 in June with 2,400 miles on it and most the mods I was planning on doing for $5400. I had a deposit for a new one from the dealer that would have cost over $8k out the door. I figured with the savings I could fix just about anything that could go wrong. I now have almost 8k miles on it and have grown to trust and love it. It took me a little while to trust it since I purchased used with 2 previous owners and didn't totally know the history.
I do agree about a higher mileage ridden and taken care of motorcycle over a low mileage one that's just been sitting. Usually they are ridden by someone that takes care of it for no other reason then they need to rely on it. The low mileage garage queens are probably just a toy and after thought to the owner.
I prefer to buy slightly used take care of motorcycles instead of new because of all the extra fees tacked onto the price tag. There is something to be said for owning a bike from mile 1 though.
Thanks for the comment, it sounds like you found a good used bike that fits your needs.
Dino
Thanks for the info. I am happy with my WR250R for now but I am researching bigger bikes like the DR650 so the info you share is great help.
Thanks for the comment, I looked at the wr250, I think it is a great bike and was going to pull the trigger on one if I could find the right deal. The dr just presented itself first.
good to know thanks. I'm loving the WR. @@DinosTinkerShed
Nothing wrong with buying a new DR but know you will pour money into it, they are built to modify…
I bought a new DR in ‘14 for $7k cad out the door and in the next year spent easily $4-5k cad on it.
In ‘18 it sold for $5500, all those accessories added zero to the sale price.
By ‘22 he got bored with it (bought a boat) after he put a few grand in it which he never got back.
I picked it up with the inflated costs today at $6k cad and didn’t pay a dime for the extras.
A new one today runs right around $10k cad out the door, then add all the items you know you are going to buy…
That’s serious savings for the used bike option, it’s less than half for something that will look and work just as good as the new.
Plus it will free up cash to continue the build, lol…
Great video Dino, keep them coming.👍
Very good advise, thank you for sharing, it really is a bike build to modify, and most have the same mods so savings can be had if you shop for a used bike. Glad you enjoy the content.
Dino
Hey! Thanks for the video. I have a DR650SE 1999. I bought it a bit over two years ago it had 11000 miles on it (has a mile odometer even though we´re in Finland, don´t know why) and now it has 17000. Really loving the bike. We dont have too many of them here because of all the emission etc regulations that came along in about 2000 in the EU, so getting a newer one locally wouldn´t even be possible, so I consider my self lucky for this find as it was the bike I really wanted.
I imagine we will soon see the last of the DR soon as well as emissions tighten, I wish Suzuki would do what Kawasaki did with the KLR and do a small freshen up but I don't think this will happen any time soon.
thank you for your post
Dino
if you buy a very used bike 1. change or refurbish the carb 2. new tires and battery 3. new brake pads and fluid 4. valves adjust 5. new axis ball bearings 6. adjust suspension at your height and weight and finally if you have the money instal a new set of ignition key fuel cap and helmet lock and a new exhaust and there you have a brand new bike
Dino, do you remember my 1st gen GSX-R 750? Bought it used for cheap... It was a race bike. It occasionally had a nasty rattle coming out if the motor. Came and went.
1 winter, I decided to pull the motor and tear it down (my first 4 stroke). Topend looked good... I replaced cam chain tentioner (what I thought was rattling). When I got the head and cylinder off and looked down in the crank case, there sat a broken off piece of piston wristpin boss! Substantial price of metal! The rattling was cause from it going for a ride around one of the con-rod journals 🫣🤔😂
I remember that slabside, would love to have one now, I don't remember the piston though, uggg imagion that this rolling around at 10 grand scary.
Thanks Eric
Dino
I have a 2014 with 22,000kms that I bought new. l only buy new bikes mostly for peace of mind knowing what's been done to the bike and the price difference usually seems fairly minor to me over buying used. I also like to keep my stuff for a long time and do my own maintenance so seems to make sense to me financially over the long term if I keep it around. Still really enjoying the bike and runs perfectly.
That's a totally logical path especially if you keep your bikes for the long haul. Both routes have there merits and each rider has to make the choice of new vs used based on their own needs.
Thanks for sharing
Dino
I have a 1995 dr650 with 72,000km and still going good for the 12 year I have had it
Wow, I think I have a ways to go yet lol. Thanks for the comment.
Dino
This was posted on a forum, and I can't guarantee its truthfullness. I know taxi use can extend a normal vehicle's lifespan way beyond normal use due to the engine very seldom starting cold.
"The bonus of the DR being a simple bare bones bike is it makes it a blank canvas to build the bike you want, like the old Brit bikes from back in the day, multi purpose. I bought my first DR back in 1998 to use as a courier bike after owning a KLR 650 and KLX 650, I sadly sold the DR after 2 years and 115,000 Klm’s of trouble free riding, unlike the Kawasaki’s, nothing but issues. Then in 2005 returned to courier work and bought another DR, 474,000 Klm’s and 9 years of a few problems, but not super expensive issues, then 2014 DR number 3, 7 years and 296,000 Klm’s with no issues, am I happy ? Hell yes. I wanted a bike that would start every morning, last a day in stop start traffic, sit on highway speeds, have low overheads, then on the weekend take me to the backroads, mission complete. And by the way 2021 is the last year of the DR here in Australia due to no ABS, the fun police spoil another fun pastime. I look at it this way, a DR 650 will go everywhere a 3 times more expensive BMW GSA 1250 will go, apart from a dealership to be serviced, but the GSA 1250 will not go where the DR can go, with similar skilled riders, makes the DR 650 the best bike on the market . "
I think I read this as well, really shows the durability of the DR if it's true. I like to think it is, thanks for sharing.
Dino
A motorcycle engine (Japanese) can last as long as any car. The reason you don’t see that often is because most people barely log any miles on bikes. I put 10k on my bike per year and less that 2 k on car. Long haul Paul put 180 k miles on a Yamaha tenere700. No valve adjusting just changed oil plugs and filters.
Thank you for the feedback, I totally agree. My hopes for this video was to encourage others n9t to shy away from higher mileage motorcycles and your comments help to reinforce that thought. Thank you again.
Dino
50400 miles on my DR650 (81110km} , bike still runs strong, also has good leak down compression test 80/70, my bike was bought new in 2017 , I wanted to buy used, but, my new/old decision is it has to be 1/2 new purchase price. Ask the owner "when was the last time you greased the suspension linkage" and if you get the deer in the headlights look...move on, or offer a much lower price, ESPECIALLY if they did the jetting/airbox mod.
Fantastic! Now that's a lot of miles, good advice and buying logic, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Dino
Hey dino, thank you so much for all of your content, i bought a 2019 dr650se with 3000 kilometers about a month ago, the previous owner said he rode the bike every now and then to keep the systems going but 3000 kilometers in 4 years is not alot. (He was scared of riding this why he sold it with such low milage) should i still be worried about inner parts after the bike has been sitting? Or would i have less to worry about on a bike that new?
I know he did all the break in services on time, but i think almost all the milage he did was during his first year of ownership, then the bikr sadly mostly sat. Sorry for the long question and thank you for everything, be safe and have fun!
Good video Dino (this message is for the boy who sold a snowmobile to your friend
Glad you enjoyed it, I have a few videos on that sled being produced right now lol. Thanks for the comment
Dino
I bought my 2012 3yrs ago paid 3500 bucks with 4000km on it, with an upgraded seat and a few other accessories, since then I have put 35000km on it and added my own mods. It is a great reliable bike.
fantastic! wow, 10k plus a year, that is impressive. Thank you for sharing.
Dino
I bought a 61k(I doubt they were true km) '96 two years ago,did a engine rebuild for the same price I bought it(they are rare in my area) it now has 80k and it goes well
I'm sure it will take you many more miles and on many new adventures.
Dino
10680 km. Bought the bike august 13th 2021. Love the thing. Leaking a little oil from where the clutch pulls on the engine casing. Probably from a fall. Otherwise no issue.
Thanks for the comment, bit of oil keeps the rust off 😉
Dino
I just got a 2018 with 37,100 miles /59,5546 km
🤘🏻 🌟 🤘
Wow, by the look of the comments it's just broken in lol, thanks for sharing.
Dino
Bought my 2016 Dr650 with 2,300km on the clock in May 2020, it now has 11,631km, and I'll guarantee I'll still have it when it passes 50,000km like yours. I'll also guarantee there'll be DR650s doing their 3rd or 4th lap of the odometer! 😉
I think your right about the 3rd and 4th lap, these are basic reliable and repairable bikes. Thanks for the comment.
Dino
Bought mine for $4500 USD three months ago. 2012 with 18000km.
hi,i have a 2013 dr650 with over 112,000 kms,,runs like a top,all my own maintenance
Thanks for the feedback. Looks like I've got many more km left on my DR lol
Dino
We agreed 👍💯 with you
My bike 2022 Suzuki DR650SE mileage is 3800 mile😊
I bought new brand in Saudi Arabia
22,000 SAR is 7820 $ CAD dollar
Almost the exact price in Saudi Arabia as here in Canada, that's cool. Thanks for the comment.
Dino
@@DinosTinkerShed I bought 0000 mileage.. Evey weekend I ride 500 km.
Hi Dino, I bought my Dr new, and it has 5k miles. The only issue is gear whine a little in every gear but seems mostly in 3rd, the dr has straight cut gears, so some whine is to be expected . I just hope it doesn't blow up on me!🤞
Karl's bike wines a bit as well, he has around 29k on his with No issues
Thanks for the comment.
Dino
Bought my dr650 new Dec 2015 , has 61000 kms
Wow that's fantastic, that's alot of km, hope it still serves you well. Thanks for the comment
Dino
I sing happy birthday upon reaching any significant numbers, then I mo and bah when riding by cows and sheep too.
Lol that is good to know. It's nice to have traditions .
Thanks again for sharing
Dino
2656 miles
I do not buy buy bikes between 30k to 50k miles, as the main parts fail between those miles (starter motor, electrics,suspensions etc etc), a bike with over 50k means good maintenance got them to survive that long so is been well looked after, same thing for cars, between 50k and 90k miles is where is very dangerous to buy a used car, obv befor buy a used vehicle i plan how much im going to spend on it, in my experience I Always save money when i buy a plus 60k miles bike/100k miles car not only on the bike purchase itself but on the repairs too.
That is an interesting method which makes alot of sense to me especially if you are new to bike or car purchases and are unfamiliar with the right questions to ask or clues to maintenance habits. Thank you for sharing
Dino
My 2015 dr 650 which I bought new has 60000
That's a lot of riding,
Dino
When do we get to know what Karl picked up for a new bike? Haha
He's still on the fence, but I'm sure once he knows he'll let everyone know. Thanks for the question.
Dino
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