Hot water can actually freeze faster than cold. It was the basis on my grade 13 science fair project (lol in 87 seems like a while ago). In my repeated experiments, the cold water started to freeze 1st, but the how water always ended up freezing solid 1st. Apparently its called the Mpemba effect.
When the water is boiled, the dissolved air leaves the water and the result is a flat taste. After boiling water, aerate the water by pouring it back and forth a few times between two containers. This adds air to the water and it will taste better.
@@nikolajc7617 There is a difference. For example, I cannot stand Dasani bottled water. It tastes nasty to me. I grew up in NYC and the tap water there is great. I've been on well water in Florida and Michigan and the water smelled and tasted of sulphur or was full of rust and tasted weird. The Michigan water turned the fiberglass shower into the red planet if you did not keep up with it.
Thanks, Mark. Your video couldn't have come at a better time. I will be camping in the backyard of the family's house this weekend and had done a bit of pondering on the subject myself. Never considered turning the bottle upside-down. Thanks again
For putting it in the snow you could also attach a length of cordage and tie it to a tree. A survival blanket wrapped around it inside a stuff sack could also help
Hi, Mark. Glad that you brought this up. Great tips! Here are a few more. Years ago I came across a huge 35mm camera padded soft case for a telephoto lens. I have been using it since the 1980s in sub-freezing temperatures to hold my 40 fl.oz. stainless steel Klean Kanteen water bottle, which is a few ounces heavier than a Nalgene, but can be used, not only to hold, but boil water (without the plastic cap) in. See this: ua-cam.com/video/B08LacsNXEM/v-deo.html at 3:01 for a practical application of a concept that I had heard of a while back, for making canister stoves work in cold temperatures, but have not tried myself as I now use alcohol or wood for heating water in the winter. And...for goodness sake, whenever possible, we should use our body heat to keep warmed water from getting cold. I use recycled schnapps hip flask-style plastic bottles in inside pockets of my parka. They also function as hand warmers. **Bring your fuel canister into your sleeping bag at night and carry it in an inside pocket of your parka during the day. One more: NEVER fill a water container to the very top in the winter. They can burst if they are full and they are allowed to freeze solid. I have done lots of winter snowshoeing in the mountains of New Hampshire. Be safe and plan ahead. 👍✌
You have provided great additional tips. I should have mentioned about no filling bottles to the top Another trick I have used is to carry a small bottle on a loop under my jacket and add snow (has to be clean) as I go. Allow it to melt and have water to drink on demand. I am hoping we get enough snow this year to get out snowshoeing. Thanks for commenting
I used a water bladder in the intended pocket of my backpack, which means it is directly on my back. Then you need an insulation sleeve for the hose. Last part is keep the hose inside your jacket to keep the mouthpiece from freezing. Worst case scenario, you have to get the bladder out of your pack, but no ice forms inside the bladder. I have never camped out in the winter, so I can't comment on how that fares after stopping for the day, but it can easily fit in your sleeping bag.
I have been considering that myself. I see them commercially available. I would think the canister would need to be warm before insulating it. The canister will get colder with no eternal heat source, especially when the gas starts flowing. I may test out this concept. Thanks for commenting
Save your money by carrying your butane canister in an inside pocket of your jacket or parka. When in use, you can use a silicone rubber wrist band to hold a strip of copper flashing against the side of the canister with the top of it just outside of the burner flame. This will transfer heat to the canister in a relatively safe way, but care must be used to avoid overheating the canister. See the channel titled "Will" on UA-cam.
@@danielkutcher5704 I also saw this video and may try it out. I have a couple of gas stoves with pre-heat tubes I am testing and want to see if this is a better/cheaper alternative
Also... water freezes from the top down. If you have the bottle inverted and it hasn't frozen completely, the liquid water will be at the end that opens.
Hot water can actually freeze faster than cold. It was the basis on my grade 13 science fair project (lol in 87 seems like a while ago). In my repeated experiments, the cold water started to freeze 1st, but the how water always ended up freezing solid 1st. Apparently its called the Mpemba effect.
I can confirm this!
But, if you carry it in an insulated sleeve, it will lose it’s heat much slower.
Part of the design behind the Zamboni I do believe. Thanks for commenting
When the water is boiled, the dissolved air leaves the water and the result is a flat taste. After boiling water, aerate the water by pouring it back and forth a few times between two containers. This adds air to the water and it will taste better.
Thanks for the tip. Thanks for commenting
Taste??? what dos water taste of??????????????
@@nikolajc7617 There is a difference. For example, I cannot stand Dasani bottled water. It tastes nasty to me. I grew up in NYC and the tap water there is great. I've been on well water in Florida and Michigan and the water smelled and tasted of sulphur or was full of rust and tasted weird. The Michigan water turned the fiberglass shower into the red planet if you did not keep up with it.
@@wmluna381 If water have a taste then its not pure.
@@nikolajc7617 unless you're drinking distilled water what you drink isnt even close to pure h2o.
Thanks, Mark. Your video couldn't have come at a better time. I will be camping in the backyard of the family's house this weekend and had done a bit of pondering on the subject myself.
Never considered turning the bottle upside-down. Thanks again
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for commenting
Excellent tips Mark
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Love how you give multi ways to get this done!
If I have learned anything it is that there is rarely just one way of doing something. Thanks for commenting
Thanks, Mark, for useful information when backpacking in cold weather.
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
For putting it in the snow you could also attach a length of cordage and tie it to a tree.
A survival blanket wrapped around it inside a stuff sack could also help
Great suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Hi, Mark. Glad that you brought this up. Great tips! Here are a few more. Years ago I came across a huge 35mm camera padded soft case for a telephoto lens. I have been using it since the 1980s in sub-freezing temperatures to hold my 40 fl.oz. stainless steel Klean Kanteen water bottle, which is a few ounces heavier than a Nalgene, but can be used, not only to hold, but boil water (without the plastic cap) in.
See this: ua-cam.com/video/B08LacsNXEM/v-deo.html
at 3:01 for a practical application of a concept that I had heard of a while back, for making canister stoves work in cold temperatures, but have not tried myself as I now use alcohol or wood for heating water in the winter.
And...for goodness sake, whenever possible, we should use our body heat to keep warmed water from getting cold. I use recycled schnapps hip flask-style plastic bottles in inside pockets of my parka. They also function as hand warmers.
**Bring your fuel canister into your sleeping bag at night and carry it in an inside pocket of your parka during the day.
One more: NEVER fill a water container to the very top in the winter. They can burst if they are full and they are allowed to freeze solid.
I have done lots of winter snowshoeing in the mountains of New Hampshire. Be safe and plan ahead. 👍✌
You have provided great additional tips. I should have mentioned about no filling bottles to the top Another trick I have used is to carry a small bottle on a loop under my jacket and add snow (has to be clean) as I go. Allow it to melt and have water to drink on demand. I am hoping we get enough snow this year to get out snowshoeing. Thanks for commenting
Good tips Mark, also applies to prevent your water filter from freezing. Stay frosty, oh, wait...
So important to do. Thanks for commenting
Great Choices Mark ! Hoping You & Yours Have A Safe & Merry Christmas ! ATB T God Bless
Same to you Terry
Great ideas! Thanks!
Glad you like them! Thanks for commenting
Cool Ideas. Thanks Brother. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!
Same to you. Thanks for commenting
Good video and tips Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
One of your best videos! Lots of excellent advise as well as not requiring one to spend money. :-)
Thank you John
I used a water bladder in the intended pocket of my backpack, which means it is directly on my back. Then you need an insulation sleeve for the hose. Last part is keep the hose inside your jacket to keep the mouthpiece from freezing. Worst case scenario, you have to get the bladder out of your pack, but no ice forms inside the bladder. I have never camped out in the winter, so I can't comment on how that fares after stopping for the day, but it can easily fit in your sleeping bag.
I appreciate the tips. Bladders are one area I had not thought to cover as I don't use them during winter. Thanks for commenting
6:35 I've wondered about using one of these (with some insulation) to keep a butane gas canister warm enough for operation I winter conditions.
I have been considering that myself. I see them commercially available. I would think the canister would need to be warm before insulating it. The canister will get colder with no eternal heat source, especially when the gas starts flowing. I may test out this concept. Thanks for commenting
Save your money by carrying your butane canister in an inside pocket of your jacket or parka. When in use, you can use a silicone rubber wrist band to hold a strip of copper flashing against the side of the canister with the top of it just outside of the burner flame. This will transfer heat to the canister in a relatively safe way, but care must be used to avoid overheating the canister. See the channel titled "Will" on UA-cam.
@@danielkutcher5704 I also saw this video and may try it out. I have a couple of gas stoves with pre-heat tubes I am testing and want to see if this is a better/cheaper alternative
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Thanks for commenting
How about a wool sock around the bottle.
For sure. It would help. Thanks for commenting
Also... water freezes from the top down. If you have the bottle inverted and it hasn't frozen completely, the liquid water will be at the end that opens.
Yes, as mentioned in the video. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft lol. I must have missed that when the wife was chatting. Cheers!
Roll a newspaper around it and tape it.
Good suggestion. Thanks for commenting