Thanks for taking the time to break down your troubleshooting technique for a newbie (77 yrs old) that is trying to learn enough to troubleshoot a problem with a 46 year old High end Stereo Amp (NIKKO ALPHA 1) that has given me years of faithful service. I can't seem to find anyone local that is willing to even look at it. I have the schematic and found a rebuild kit on eBay and I am seriously considering doing the rebuild myself. I know my way around a multimeter but know that is not enough in the hands of a novice like myself. I deduce that the caps are most likely the main problems but I am trying to learn all I can from people like yourself. Thank you very much!!!
I just wanted to personally thank you for this vid, some of us really do appreciate people like you taking the time to run down things just like this and do find it hugely beneficial. Though a lot of us dont say thanks as often as we maybe should, but just know there are people out there even if they dont express it! Thanks!
Nice Video clip! Sorry for chiming in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard about - Tarbbatigan clean errors Tip (google it)? It is an awesome one off guide for discovering how to fix electronic devices without the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my m8 got great results with it.
I’ve been troubleshooting circuit boards alarm circuits cameras, power supplies refrigerators for about 20 years and every now and then you just gotta go back to zero and see if you can pick something up. I’m gonna watch the video. I hope I learn anything. Thanks for putting up.
Too many smart people here! This guy is trying his best to educate people who doesn’t really know much about electronics. Why for all you smart people out there, make an effort and create your own video! How about that!🤦🏻♂️
I personally found this video very informative. However, it requires at least to get down some basic electronics knowledge to make sense of the video which i consider absolutely normal. If someone with zero knowledge tries to look for a video to fix a PCB than good luck with that. lol
Life long tech here: There was a period in my career where I had nightmares of little old ladies running around with Huntron Trackers fixing everything insight. I thought unemployment and hungar were in my future. Through my own use of a tracker, I learned it was just another tool siting on my bench. The greatest tool I ever used was an understanding of just how the damn thing worked. In todays electronics, components are very robust and far less apt to fail on their own. Everyone starts out thinking its going to be an electrolyte capacitor and in many cases it is. However, by far, the most common failure these days are cracked solder joints. Not from manufacturing faults , but from mechanical stress caused by different rates of thermo expansion and contraction between components and circuit boards. First thing to always do is a very very close visual inspection of solder joints. 50 years of experence working at a research University.
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Its true. Even with today's vehicles. If you have an electrical problem, it is almost certainly going to be wiring between components. Learned that the hard way. On the bright side, I now have a much better understanding of the component map in my truck, lol. Must have checked every one of hem, replaced half, then found a broken wire in a harness of 100 wires. One connection broken, it changes the power flow to every other connection, and the components are highly specific in the amount of power they use.
I'm currently doing your course. Right now I'm about 80% done. I noticed three, extremely important points that I appreciate about course. 1) introducing most commonly used components in the right order 2) teaching how to use test instruments 3) analysis of some classical circuits. The course is most suitable for beginners who'd like to start from repairing through-hole component boards. The course is great for me. I recommend all beginners to check it out. Thanks.
Just wanted to thank you for this video. When I was a kid back in the 70's I became interested in electronics with a lot of inspiration from my grandfather. On Saturday's we would go to flea markets and find old tube-type radio's and take them home and repair them. Of course a lot has changed since then. Now most things are disposable and with the advent of s.m.d. technology rather difficult to repair, what a shame. Still, every now and then my electronic skills come in handy and I still enjoy building various electronic kits from Velleman etc. Thanks again.
Why does SMD make things difficult to repair? I was a repair technician for a few years, and our boards were heavily SMD, with only some through-hole components here and there (outside of connectors). That never prevented us from repairing the boards, unless there was already something wrong with the PCB, or if we messed up and overheated the multi-layer PCB while using hot air.
The best practical explanation of bridge rectifiers is included in this video. The diagram this guy uses to explain the bridge rectifier is much simpler and easier to read than the conventional drawings. I never had trouble in testing rectifiers after watching this video.
I've taken courses and learned the theory of components, even the theory of how to troubleshoot. Now I scored my first electronics repair job. Starting tomorrow, pretty nervous, and taking notes on this video - Thank you!
i see a lot of bollywood video and click on thumb down (dislike) because uploader has made bare minimum effort to process raw input which is many times old films on celluloid ... no restoration no nothing and sometimes audio is not loud enough or too loud ... sometimes aspect ratio is out of whack making circle look ellipse ... so i have good reason to dislike ... but i fail to see why would anyone would thumb down an educational video like ... obviously the uploader creating an interest in a hobby or a future career ... youtube should let uploaders of educational videos to confront dislikers to give reason for dislike or just be disbarred from disliking ... you are doing great job by teaching your skill to complete stranger ... thank you
Man, thank you Luke. I'm just like you. I've got my degree in Electronics Technology and received it in 1985 and I still don't understand a lot of stuff. I've been doing more of board level troubleshooting and Telecommunications (fiber Optics and networking). By watching your video I don't feel as dumb because I just realized that I'm not the only one with this same problem. I'm going to continue watching your videos and updates. Thanks again. You've been such a great help! I needed to hear your testimony.
I worked in AIMD as an Avionics Technician working on ASW gear (technically my rate was Aviation Anti-Submarine Warfare Technician - AX - but they merged it to AT in the 90s). This is a great video to demonstrate RE techniques! Typically you'll want to have a schematic, but sometimes, especially with homebrew stuff, you might not have one. Being able to troubleshoot and experiment is important, but if you don't know what the circuit looks like you are basically in the dark.
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm a self-taught electronics hobbyist and I love learning about electronics, whether its on UA-cam, some free resource, or a book. I think its great that you showed how to troubleshoot without schematics because sometimes, there isn't a model number you can visibly see on the component or maybe the datasheet isn't available online. My first instinct is always to look up datasheets for each component so I can know the pinout. Its easier to debug the issue when the components are by themselves but in a circuit, its more difficult because other components can affect your DMM measurements. For me, what I learned in this video was: 1) For visual inspection, check for burn marks on traces, cracks in the PCB (which could cause open circuit somewhere), and cold solder joints (e.g. look for cracking). Comments: I would also add to look for obvious things like a burnt component or possibly a capacitor is bulging. Maybe one of the leads of a component somehow snapped off. Poor solder connections (pretty rare). Liquid damage can also be an issue. 2) Go through and check for shorts and verify that certain components should be connected and/or have specific resistance/impedance. This is where datasheets can be very helpful, if available. Really know the components (this is something I need to improve on!) 3) Power on the circuit and verify that certain components are receiving their correct voltages/voltage drops or that LEDs are turning on/sequencing as they should be.
Lue, I was totally blown away with your understanding of components and circuit boards without a schematic. I'm like you & most techs, I'd rather have the schematic than going through the process you go through. Even though it is time consuming and in my case a strain on my brain it makes perfect sense. Obviously, another person running a camera on the circuit board with HD quality & clarity would enhance the video, but you did well working solo. I wish I had had you as my teacher in tech school, I would have learned a whole lot more.
Hey, Thank you my friend. You should get some sort of Patron. I would donate in a heart beat! I can't thank you enough. Ive been repairing AV equipment for 10 yrs and i'm really good! But not at the component level. Thank you for adding value to my performance and my ability. Now excuse while i watch and like EVERY VIDEO YOU'VE POSTED! What a good man you are THANK YOU!
Good way of teaching newbies especially if there is no schematic. Been doing repair of electronic stuff for 20 years and still counting. I developed the skill of fixing things without schematic. I can even modify a circuit even if there is no diagram, I just have to make my own and get the the components ID and search in the web for the specs. For the power supply that you were checking, I guess the output is quite low. Assuming you are using the 115Vac input and the transformer’s expected output is 12Vac, then the turn ration has to be 9.5:1. The rectified output is supposed to be 12*1.414 = 16.9Vdc. Now adding the filter caps, C=I/2*F*Vpp. C=2/(2*120*2) C=418uF or the closest to that. With that filter capacitors the filtered DC out is ~14.9Vdc and that is at open load. What you were getting is quite low.
just wanted to drop a thank you as well,, i watched the first 20 mins of this video,,, then resoldered in a capacitor, and now my lovely tech works again,, ive subscribed, and ill probably take your course when i have time, many thanks bro.
Grately Appreciate people like you that takes a common troubleshooting issue & breaks it down step by step to show the problem and solution hands on but also the explanation of how to get the answer solution. Great video and thanks for your time
Same here with me, although even to date I still keep up with new technology and electronic methods and other materials. You have too in order to stay up-to-date.
I have been watching your videos for about a month now and I have learned quite a bit on how the SMPS PCB Inverter Board works. What I am presently working on is a power supply out of a Samsung RF 8000 refrigerator. I have meter to read voltage and continuity, amps. I followed your instructions on how to check the boards. I don't have a lot of electronic test equipment to test the circuit so I just use the connections on the refrigerator to power up the board . I am getting 115 AC in and it goes through the fuse through the bridge rectifier and using your formula , and it shows about 165 DC voltages through the capacitors , there are two that both measure 165 DC voltage . i follow the board down to what I think is an IC at the bottom and a smaller capacitor on the top side that looks like it is connected to a IC on the bottom that has no voltage where it is connected to the IC. I think this is the positive side of the DC voltage. On the other side of the DC voltage it goes up to what looks like a resistor to a bigger IC with a metal bridge screwed to the top of it to cool it down and that goes to the compressor to run the refrigerator, that is supposed to be getting at least 310 DC volts , but only getting 244 DC volts. I think the chopper CCt is keeping the the VCD/ PWM, from the feed back circuit to the main board that regulates the out that is 10 DC at the out put that should be 15 DC volts and 5 DC volts. My question to you is where is my problem? How do I find where the lost of voltage stopped. I know that the double wired coil is only hot on one side with voltage or has continuity on one side I can't remember which. Could this be my problem, I have tried everything else that I have learned from you guys . Is there any way that I can chat with you? or send you a picture of the SMPS PCB?
You should try to draw the part of the board you just had described on a paper, identify the components (value/name/etc), find the datasheet for the semiconductors, write down on the paper all values you had been measuring, see/analyse if the values give sense compared to the datasheet.
I was hoping for something simple but, I know, electronics is crazy with math & flow charting. But, you are reminding me of all my electronics classes 25 years ago.
My first job from school, age 16, was learning electronics on Atari CX2600 Gaming consoles in 1982. Tech College was 20 years behind my actual work at the time. Later gaining a great career in the Slots Gaming industry, because they required Techs who'd worked with video, as they were moving away from spinning reels. Much of my Electronics repair work was with custom diagnostic equip, which would've been a bit tedious without it. But I can only imagine how many consumer products have been thrown out, that a total amateur could've fixed in 10 mins. Many of them are OK far beyond warranty, apart from some silly design cost cut related weakness, that's worth learning about.
Nice video. I have wondered how much you could do without a schematic all my life. I have always wanted to be an electronics guru I just never had the friends, mentoring, or time to raise my skill level (even though I have an EECS / mostly CS degree from MIT). Worked on a broken Heathkit oscilloscope and found the broken 7815 power regulator which was melted / crashed - after a FEW HOURS! Built my own bicycle-light charger starting with a 5vac adapter + full wave bridge for a do-it-yourself rechargeable wonder bicycle light. I think it helps that all power supplies (mostly) are pretty simple and pretty similar.
One of the best and most thorough videos I have ever watched on this topic! As someone trying to learn all of the basics on my own with no prior knowledge, you made this really easy for us to follow. Thank you!
Nice job of describing the proper steps of “Best Practices”. These boards are sprayed with like a clear lacquer that makes it harder to get readings. Scratching with a small flat blade, or other handy tool helps. Also, as you discussed having a heavy component like that transformer on the board, if it fell during the past, the printed circuit can crack. I would include that repair in a future video, if you haven’t already. ( Sorry, haven’t seen all the videos in your channel) If a broken circuit on the board, scrape gently to clean to the printed copper, then solder a wire across the fail point. I fixed the neighbor girls radio 35 years ago, after she dropped it. You guessed it if you said transformer end was the fail point. Same with “Cold” soldered joints. I’m sure you remember when tv’s took two men and a boy to move it. Mine wasn’t quite that big, but on day while watching it, the screen went black. So moved it away from the kids into another room, plugged in, turn on and wait for it to do that again...but only after your common sense step, visual, discrete component check, writing down voltages and making note ( Before digital cameras), it quit, I found it with my Fluke DMM, re-soldered it, let run to confirm, then placed it in service. 4 kids, wife and one income and one tv. The tv shop in a town that was the county seat, always or more often had a sign up that said; “ Gone Fishing, instead of watching your tv!” Thought that was funny. Very good information and clear to hear with my $3 dollar ears.
The visual component inspection should also include the "SMELL" test. many times the tech can smell fried electronic materials when the device is opened up for the visual.
true, but a SMELL test is not a VISUAL inspection he was correct though Step 1.. Visual Inspection he did skip Step 2. Step 2. does it pass the SMELL TEST ?
Great vid! I learned a lot from you. O.L. means Open Loop in continuity testing. Of course, the opposite is Closed Loop, where the current can pass through. Looking forward to more tutorials from you, especially considering the actual experience that you have.
Oh man why did you stop uploading? I'm starting to learn some basic board repair. Thanks for the video! 👍Helps explain a lot to someone who doesn't know all that much about electronics 🙏
Nice explanation of a basic troubleshooting of a board. Only thing I would mention is that you should have safety glass' on your face when powered up. As a 45 year electrical tech' I have seen many things blow up when you least expect it.
Good job, power supplies are one of the most mystic and difficult to understand sections of a (PCB) printed circuit board. Mainly because they convert AC to DC and the components don't like giving up their secrets with a simple good or bad answer. For instance the capacitor and transformer may test okay but under a power load they break down. Let's see more videos!
I would like to add. If you get stuck and can't find any problem you can temporarily replace the fuse with a lightbulb as a current limiter. Using a lightbulb will allow you to safely power the device while taking voltage measurements. To choose a close enough lightbulb see how much power the device is supposed to take and replace the fuse with the same or lesser powered lightbulb (10 watt circuit use a 10 to 5 watt 120 volt lightbulb). The circuit won't blow and the lightbulb will allow some current to flow.
Good stuff! To your visual inspection you might add these two: indication of prior repairs, which may or may not be correct, and may show points of failure. And look for components added to underside of board to correct design flaws. Maybe the patches didnt work as expected or lead to other problems or failures later.
I really needed this, thank you, as I am learning I think about making my own I got caught up in programming hardware software, but not able to organize it all together all books I read not quite understanding them fully trying to memorize them all only to forget a few months down the road I get flash backs of what I have read. I do get flash backs of what I read though, this video is amazing what I was looking for thank you (gush shu bay ) meaning thanks
i have an old amplifier i believe has a bad diode in the rectifier...maybe...it was intermitant and then it just quit....i love so i ant to get it going....it is a tube preamp, MOSFET power stage hybrid style, and not many techs know where to begin, but after watching this i am ready to give it another shot....thank you very much.
Good video. I will have to say it's better to check a fuse by testing output voltage. I have seen many partially blown fuses causing a voltage drop and not an open circuit.
Great video, I run into a lot of pcb’s without a schematic and have to figure things out as well, it’s good to see your thought process to troubleshoot. More videos please. Thanks!
at 40:37 you were doing the calculation for AC peak-to-peak that's the voltage differential between the maximum positive and negative peaks. When you convert peak-to-peak into DC only the positive (and/or negative) charges remain from zero to peak(not "1"). You likely had the non peak-to-peak AC voltage and to calculate that is just "AC Voltage=DC Voltage"(Not counting for efficiency loss.).
When 680 people dislike an instructional video something is not right. Many positive comments, no doubt, but for that many to dislike it seems curious.
This is a great lesson man. I learned how the rectification works in bridge rectifier clear as day, Thanks! you are awesome, SUBSCRIBED! Hope your other videos are this great!
This is a huge thank you so much for doing this video. I'm a high voltage self taught electrian. An I once had a chance to learn electronics back in 95 but quit my job because of an evil women. But I wouldn't be a high voltage electrian then,thank you so much.
Something else to look for in visual inspection. If there is vibration, sometimes heavy parts will lift the traces off of the PCB and break them or break the solder connections.
I haven't even watched it yet and I already know this is the best video on UA-cam! We need more videos like this :) You just earned yourself a subscriber!
@@Washburn-rr5eh It was more basic than I was hoping, but an instructional walk through of a procedure, in my opinion, makes for a great video. We do need more of these. There are too many vlogs and other useless stuff on youtube it gets exhausting. Its hard to sort through the garbage experiments and builds to find someone who is willing to actually teach you something in a way we can learn instead of just blast through a procedure to prove to you how smart they are.
Thank you friend for the great video . I've worked for several years diagnosing automotive electrical and electronics. Testing sensors, actuators and wiring but never really understood circuit boards . Subscribing :-) Thanks
Switch mode power supplies...... sometime easy to troubleshoot, sometimes not.....but a good Meyer and a ESR meter will come handy without a diagram .....nice video
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Thanks you for tips how to troubleshoot electronics Mr. Loe Yang
Electronic Tech ... your online course ?
Honestly 1.414 x the AC signal= Vdc
Seriously, go back to sales .....if for grins & giggles! Clueless!!
Make sure you don’t get shocked!!!
Thanks for taking the time to break down your troubleshooting technique for a newbie (77 yrs old) that is trying to learn enough to troubleshoot a problem with a 46 year old High end Stereo Amp (NIKKO ALPHA 1) that has given me years of faithful service. I can't seem to find anyone local that is willing to even look at it. I have the schematic and found a rebuild kit on eBay and I am seriously considering doing the rebuild myself. I know my way around a multimeter but know that is not enough in the hands of a novice like myself. I deduce that the caps are most likely the main problems but I am trying to learn all I can from people like yourself. Thank you very much!!!
I just fixed my tv using your teaching. Thanks, saved me $5k
Wtf is your TV worth buddy?😮😮
Good for you anyway 👍🏻
I just wanted to personally thank you for this vid, some of us really do appreciate people like you taking the time to run down things just like this and do find it hugely beneficial. Though a lot of us dont say thanks as often as we maybe should, but just know there are people out there even if they dont express it! Thanks!
Nice Video clip! Sorry for chiming in, I would love your initial thoughts. Have you heard about - Tarbbatigan clean errors Tip (google it)? It is an awesome one off guide for discovering how to fix electronic devices without the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my m8 got great results with it.
Normally I don't say thank you but I do leave a like when the video helps (I can try to say thank you more times though).
Yes lots of us are 101
I’ve been troubleshooting circuit boards alarm circuits cameras, power supplies refrigerators for about 20 years and every now and then you just gotta go back to zero and see if you can pick something up. I’m gonna watch the video. I hope I learn anything. Thanks for putting up.
Too many smart people here! This guy is trying his best to educate people who doesn’t really know much about electronics. Why for all you smart people out there, make an effort and create your own video! How about that!🤦🏻♂️
I personally found this video very informative. However, it requires at least to get down some basic electronics knowledge to make sense of the video which i consider absolutely normal. If someone with zero knowledge tries to look for a video to fix a PCB than good luck with that. lol
Why don't you create video and help others.. Let the world know your real electronic knowledge...
That's not entirely fair, he said there was no point checking the transformer coils as they would be 0 ohms, that means fire.
But he could fucking get on with it already. So much blabbing about nothing.
@@imho2278 no college does electrical repair classes anymore. It’s a fairly dead industry.
Life long tech here: There was a period in my career where I had nightmares of little old ladies running around with Huntron Trackers fixing everything insight. I thought unemployment and hungar were in my future. Through my own use of a tracker, I learned it was just another tool siting on my bench. The greatest tool I ever used was an understanding of just how the damn thing worked.
In todays electronics, components are very robust and far less apt to fail on their own. Everyone starts out thinking its going to be an electrolyte capacitor and in many cases it is. However, by far, the most common failure these days are cracked solder joints. Not from manufacturing faults , but from mechanical stress caused by different rates of thermo expansion and contraction between components and circuit boards. First thing to always do is a very very close visual inspection of solder joints.
50 years of experence working at a research University.
Thanks for the insight!
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Even the Bible says differently...
Who's Who in ALL Ziss
CARRY MASALA....Hun..
Exemple an honest gut rent a commercial place to work....
INCREDIBLE BUT TRUE..
ZEE Neighborhood goes to a WITCHCRAFT PAYS MONEY
to have him EJECTED..
from...
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Its true. Even with today's vehicles. If you have an electrical problem, it is almost certainly going to be wiring between components. Learned that the hard way. On the bright side, I now have a much better understanding of the component map in my truck, lol. Must have checked every one of hem, replaced half, then found a broken wire in a harness of 100 wires. One connection broken, it changes the power flow to every other connection, and the components are highly specific in the amount of power they use.
This guy is a good tech he knows his stuff by looking at how he goes through his trouble shooting step. Good job.
I'm currently doing your course. Right now I'm about 80% done. I noticed three, extremely important points that I appreciate about course. 1) introducing most commonly used components in the right order 2) teaching how to use test instruments 3) analysis of some classical circuits. The course is most suitable for beginners who'd like to start from repairing through-hole component boards. The course is great for me. I recommend all beginners to check it out. Thanks.
Where is this course? Website, UA-cam?
@@destro513can you check the link posted on the pinned comment of this video? That link will lead you to the right place.
Just wanted to thank you for this video. When I was a kid back in the 70's I became interested in electronics with a lot of inspiration from my grandfather. On Saturday's we would go to flea markets and find old tube-type radio's and take them home and repair them. Of course a lot has changed since then. Now most things are disposable and with the advent of s.m.d. technology rather difficult to repair, what a shame. Still, every now and then my electronic skills come in handy and I still enjoy building various electronic kits from Velleman etc. Thanks again.
Why does SMD make things difficult to repair? I was a repair technician for a few years, and our boards were heavily SMD, with only some through-hole components here and there (outside of connectors). That never prevented us from repairing the boards, unless there was already something wrong with the PCB, or if we messed up and overheated the multi-layer PCB while using hot air.
The best practical explanation of bridge rectifiers is included in this video. The diagram this guy uses to explain the bridge rectifier is much simpler and easier to read than the conventional drawings. I never had trouble in testing rectifiers after watching this video.
I've taken courses and learned the theory of components, even the theory of how to troubleshoot. Now I scored my first electronics repair job. Starting tomorrow, pretty nervous, and taking notes on this video - Thank you!
Best wishes on the new job.
How are you getting on with the job?
He got fired @@ash88glos
@aarondrake6409 How is your technician job?
Any notes to share or resources to recommend about starting a technician job?
i see a lot of bollywood video and click on thumb down (dislike) because uploader has made bare minimum effort to process raw input which is many times old films on celluloid ... no restoration no nothing and sometimes audio is not loud enough or too loud ... sometimes aspect ratio is out of whack making circle look ellipse ... so i have good reason to dislike ... but i fail to see why would anyone would thumb down an educational video like ... obviously the uploader creating an interest in a hobby or a future career ... youtube should let uploaders of educational videos to confront dislikers to give reason for dislike or just be disbarred from disliking ... you are doing great job by teaching your skill to complete stranger ... thank you
Thank you!!
Man, thank you Luke. I'm just like you. I've got my degree in Electronics Technology and received it in 1985 and I still don't understand a lot of stuff. I've been doing more of board level troubleshooting and Telecommunications (fiber Optics and networking). By watching your video I don't feel as dumb because I just realized that I'm not the only one with this same problem. I'm going to continue watching your videos and updates. Thanks again. You've been such a great help! I needed to hear your testimony.
Bro as a fresh graduate, thank you. I wish I had a lab instructor that would’ve taught us in this format. Very practical knowledge.
I worked in AIMD as an Avionics Technician working on ASW gear (technically my rate was Aviation Anti-Submarine Warfare Technician - AX - but they merged it to AT in the 90s). This is a great video to demonstrate RE techniques! Typically you'll want to have a schematic, but sometimes, especially with homebrew stuff, you might not have one. Being able to troubleshoot and experiment is important, but if you don't know what the circuit looks like you are basically in the dark.
Thank you so much for making this video!
I'm a self-taught electronics hobbyist and I love learning about electronics, whether its on UA-cam, some free resource, or a book. I think its great that you showed how to troubleshoot without schematics because sometimes, there isn't a model number you can visibly see on the component or maybe the datasheet isn't available online. My first instinct is always to look up datasheets for each component so I can know the pinout. Its easier to debug the issue when the components are by themselves but in a circuit, its more difficult because other components can affect your DMM measurements.
For me, what I learned in this video was:
1) For visual inspection, check for burn marks on traces, cracks in the PCB (which could cause open circuit somewhere), and cold solder joints (e.g. look for cracking).
Comments: I would also add to look for obvious things like a burnt component or possibly a capacitor is bulging. Maybe one of the leads of a component somehow snapped off. Poor solder connections (pretty rare). Liquid damage can also be an issue.
2) Go through and check for shorts and verify that certain components should be connected and/or have specific resistance/impedance. This is where datasheets can be very helpful, if available. Really know the components (this is something I need to improve on!)
3) Power on the circuit and verify that certain components are receiving their correct voltages/voltage drops or that LEDs are turning on/sequencing as they should be.
Lue, I was totally blown away with your understanding of components and circuit boards without a schematic. I'm like you & most techs, I'd rather have the schematic than going through the process you go through. Even though it is time consuming and in my case a strain on my brain it makes perfect sense. Obviously, another person running a camera on the circuit board with HD quality & clarity would enhance the video, but you did well working solo. I wish I had had you as my teacher in tech school, I would have learned a whole lot more.
Thank You!!
Thank you Mr. Electronic Tech. I am electronic tech myself retired, that was a perfect refresh for my mind. Appreciated Sir.
How very sad.
Hey, Thank you my friend. You should get some sort of Patron. I would donate in a heart beat! I can't thank you enough. Ive been repairing AV equipment for 10 yrs and i'm really good! But not at the component level. Thank you for adding value to my performance and my ability. Now excuse while i watch and like EVERY VIDEO YOU'VE POSTED! What a good man you are THANK YOU!
Good way of teaching newbies especially if there is no schematic. Been doing repair of electronic stuff for 20 years and still counting. I developed the skill of fixing things without schematic. I can even modify a circuit even if there is no diagram, I just have to make my own and get the the components ID and search in the web for the specs. For the power supply that you were checking, I guess the output is quite low. Assuming you are using the 115Vac input and the transformer’s expected output is 12Vac, then the turn ration has to be 9.5:1. The rectified output is supposed to be 12*1.414 = 16.9Vdc. Now adding the filter caps, C=I/2*F*Vpp. C=2/(2*120*2) C=418uF or the closest to that. With that filter capacitors the filtered DC out is ~14.9Vdc and that is at open load. What you were getting is quite low.
I liked the way you moved through the design and proved each stage/component. Good logic at work. Thanks very much.
You are welcome!
Dude, I am 70 and I can really relate to the memory issue. But I carry on regardless, passion for the work.
Im getting an electronics kit and when it arrives Im coming straight back to this channel, took me 0s to make that decision see ya then
just wanted to drop a thank you as well,, i watched the first 20 mins of this video,,, then resoldered in a capacitor, and now my lovely tech works again,, ive subscribed, and ill probably take your course when i have time, many thanks bro.
Grately Appreciate people like you that takes a common troubleshooting issue & breaks it down step by step to show the problem and solution hands on but also the explanation of how to get the answer solution. Great video and thanks for your time
Did electronics 20 years ago at collage and couldn't remember much of it, after watching its all coming flooding back thanks
Same here with me, although even to date I still keep up with new technology and electronic methods and other materials. You have too in order to stay up-to-date.
@@Angtechservice LOL, I thought, there in your reply for your last sentence you were going to say "... in order to stay "current.""
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My main multimeter is a Fluke 77 II. 30 years old and STILL in calibration. Awesome piece of kit.
I have been watching your videos for about a month now and I have learned quite a bit on how the SMPS PCB Inverter Board works. What I am presently working on is a power supply out of a Samsung RF 8000 refrigerator. I have meter to read voltage and continuity, amps. I followed your instructions on how to check the boards. I don't have a lot of electronic test equipment to test the circuit so I just use the connections on the refrigerator to power up the board . I am getting 115 AC in and it goes through the fuse through the bridge rectifier and using your formula , and it shows about 165 DC voltages through the capacitors , there are two that both measure 165 DC voltage . i follow the board down to what I think is an IC at the bottom and a smaller capacitor on the top side that looks like it is connected to a IC on the bottom that has no voltage where it is connected to the IC. I think this is the positive side of the DC voltage. On the other side of the DC voltage it goes up to what looks like a resistor to a bigger IC with a metal bridge screwed to the top of it to cool it down and that goes to the compressor to run the refrigerator, that is supposed to be getting at least 310 DC volts , but only getting 244 DC volts. I think the chopper CCt is keeping the the VCD/ PWM, from the feed back circuit to the main board that regulates the out that is 10 DC at the out put that should be 15 DC volts and 5 DC volts. My question to you is where is my problem? How do I find where the lost of voltage stopped. I know that the double wired coil is only hot on one side with voltage or has continuity on one side I can't remember which. Could this be my problem, I have tried everything else that I have learned from you guys . Is there any way that I can chat with you? or send you a picture of the SMPS PCB?
I like the videos and they were very helpful.
Don't lick anything!
You should try to draw the part of the board you just had described on a paper, identify the components (value/name/etc), find the datasheet for the semiconductors, write down on the paper all values you had been measuring, see/analyse if the values give sense compared to the datasheet.
I was hoping for something simple but, I know, electronics is crazy with math & flow charting. But, you are reminding me of all my electronics classes 25 years ago.
Thanks for your practical Hands-On, toubleshooting, without a schematic.
Thanks for sharing.
My first job from school, age 16, was learning electronics on Atari CX2600 Gaming consoles in 1982.
Tech College was 20 years behind my actual work at the time.
Later gaining a great career in the Slots Gaming industry, because they required Techs who'd worked with
video, as they were moving away from spinning reels.
Much of my Electronics repair work was with custom diagnostic equip, which would've been a bit tedious without it.
But I can only imagine how many consumer products have been thrown out, that a total amateur could've fixed in 10 mins. Many of them are OK far beyond warranty, apart from some silly design cost cut related weakness,
that's worth learning about.
OL stands for Open Loop, thanks for the video, great to see how you think.
Nice video. I have wondered how much you could do without a schematic all my life. I have always wanted to be an electronics guru I just never had the friends, mentoring, or time to raise my skill level (even though I have an EECS / mostly CS degree from MIT). Worked on a broken Heathkit oscilloscope and found the broken 7815 power regulator which was melted / crashed - after a FEW HOURS! Built my own bicycle-light charger starting with a 5vac adapter + full wave bridge for a do-it-yourself rechargeable wonder bicycle light. I think it helps that all power supplies (mostly) are pretty simple and pretty similar.
What an amazing video. Thanks for sharing the info. I am trying to get back into electronics after 20 years nearly and this is a gem of a video.
Thank You!!
Thank you for the video. I learned a lot. I learned things that I did not learned from a 4 years college on electrical things. Thank you.
Really?
Thank you for explaining things that newbies wouldn't know.
I find this video very refreshing. Learning is a continuous process; one gets to learn, like my other boss would put it, some gimmicks.
Refreshing to watch as you move thru, pushing through wrong results with pose and grace. Very intelligent
I wish something was actually broken. Let's get a patient in the E.R. with unknown issues and go start to finish.
One of the best and most thorough videos I have ever watched on this topic! As someone trying to learn all of the basics on my own with no prior knowledge, you made this really easy for us to follow. Thank you!
You're a good teacher, combining theory and practice :)
Nice job of describing the proper steps of “Best Practices”. These boards are sprayed with like a clear lacquer that makes it harder to get readings. Scratching with a small flat blade, or other handy tool helps.
Also, as you discussed having a heavy component like that transformer on the board, if it fell during the past, the printed circuit can crack. I would include that repair in a future video, if you haven’t already. ( Sorry, haven’t seen all the videos in your channel) If a broken circuit on the board, scrape gently to clean to the printed copper, then solder a wire across the fail point. I fixed the neighbor girls radio 35 years ago, after she dropped it. You guessed it if you said transformer end was the fail point.
Same with “Cold” soldered joints. I’m sure you remember when tv’s took two men and a boy to move it. Mine wasn’t quite that big, but on day while watching it, the screen went black. So moved it away from the kids into another room, plugged in, turn on and wait for it to do that again...but only after your common sense step, visual, discrete component check, writing down voltages and making note ( Before digital cameras), it quit, I found it with my Fluke DMM, re-soldered it, let run to confirm, then placed it in service. 4 kids, wife and one income and one tv.
The tv shop in a town that was the county seat, always or more often had a sign up that said; “ Gone Fishing, instead of watching your tv!” Thought that was funny. Very good information and clear to hear with my $3 dollar ears.
Great explanation.
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A thermal camera is the best investment you will ever make to shorten a troubleshooting session from hours to under a minute!
Got a thermal camera but don't really know how to use it for trouble shooting electronics... How do you use your camera?
The visual component inspection should also include the "SMELL" test. many times the tech can smell fried electronic materials when the device is opened up for the visual.
Hmm the smell of burnt electronics in the morning 😂
true, but a SMELL test is not a VISUAL inspection
he was correct though
Step 1.. Visual Inspection
he did skip Step 2.
Step 2. does it pass the SMELL TEST ?
I can usually tell something is burned vefore I even open it. KINDA smells like a chlorine tablet... I kinda like it. lol
@@briannedunn6938 Unless it's a cheap Chinese PCB, those smell like burning PVC.
Some people refere to the visual inspection as physical inspection. basically the same thing i guess.
Great vid! I learned a lot from you. O.L. means Open Loop in continuity testing. Of course, the opposite is Closed Loop, where the current can pass through. Looking forward to more tutorials from you, especially considering the actual experience that you have.
Open Line
This guide is amazing for basic board troubleshooting. Very good troubleshooting tips to know.
Well done!
Thank you!
I have grown some more as a result of your knowledge and thoroughness.
Did your caps swell?
Oh man why did you stop uploading? I'm starting to learn some basic board repair. Thanks for the video! 👍Helps explain a lot to someone who doesn't know all that much about electronics 🙏
Thanks! I'm about to watch this whole video. I've a broken Roland TR707 from the 80's, hoping i can diagnose!
Nice explanation of a basic troubleshooting of a board. Only thing I would mention is that you should have safety glass' on your face when powered up. As a 45 year electrical tech' I have seen many things blow up when you least expect it.
Especially when licked.
thanks sir..
really easiest way explained in the youtube till today
The world's best teacher thanks
Good job, power supplies are one of the most mystic and difficult to understand sections of a (PCB) printed circuit board. Mainly because they convert AC to DC and the components don't like giving up their secrets with a simple good or bad answer. For instance the capacitor and transformer may test okay but under a power load they break down. Let's see more videos!
does the power supply really turn AC to DC? think you might want to check that
I would like to add.
If you get stuck and can't find any problem you can temporarily replace the fuse with a lightbulb as a current limiter. Using a lightbulb will allow you to safely power the device while taking voltage measurements. To choose a close enough lightbulb see how much power the device is supposed to take and replace the fuse with the same or lesser powered lightbulb (10 watt circuit use a 10 to 5 watt 120 volt lightbulb). The circuit won't blow and the lightbulb will allow some current to flow.
Gotta watch this video series to see how the Big boys do it!
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Also helps if working in low light situations.
Great video thanks, especially the bridge rectifier explanation. I'd only seen it drawn like a "diamond" before.
Thanks. Very informative and helpful. What lured me in is your right. Textbooks only teach theory and fundamentals.
Good stuff! To your visual inspection you might add these two: indication of prior repairs, which may or may not be correct, and may show points of failure. And look for components added to underside of board to correct design flaws. Maybe the patches didnt work as expected or lead to other problems or failures later.
I really needed this, thank you, as I am learning I think about making my own I got caught up in programming hardware software, but not able to organize it all together all books I read not quite understanding them fully trying to memorize them all only to forget a few months down the road I get flash backs of what I have read. I do get flash backs of what I read though, this video is amazing what I was looking for thank you (gush shu bay ) meaning thanks
Thank you for the AC X 1.414 formula, never knew that, any more tips would be great in a video about troubleshooting. Thanks for the great video.
i have an old amplifier i believe has a bad diode in the rectifier...maybe...it was intermitant and then it just quit....i love so i ant to get it going....it is a tube preamp, MOSFET power stage hybrid style, and not many techs know where to begin, but after watching this i am ready to give it another shot....thank you very much.
Hey I'm a newbie to Electronics, but I'm Learning. Great Video. Very Informative... Just Sayin'💯
Hi - Electronic tech. Didn't know you had a UA-cam channel. Good to see you.
Great video. Your understanding is so solid plus you make the application so practical and easy to grasp. Love the sketches!
Good video. I will have to say it's better to check a fuse by testing output voltage. I have seen many partially blown fuses causing a voltage drop and not an open circuit.
OL is overload!!! yeeee your video is super helpful sir! ! Please hire me.
OL on a multimeter stands for Over Limit which means it’s out of range.
Excellent video!!!! Nicely explained
A great illustration of bridge rectifier operation. Thank you
A week ago I drew one from memory explaining something to someone. Probably helped me more than them
Thank you for taking the time and effort to upload this video. It covers good basic electronic fault finding principles.
Great video, I run into a lot of pcb’s without a schematic and have to figure things out as well, it’s good to see your thought process to troubleshoot. More videos please. Thanks!
Thank you. And I’m gonna use that grins and giggles line lol. Would love to see more from you, thanks again
Thank you bro! I am starting to learn electronics and these videos are a big help!
Best explanation for the bridge rectifier, thanks
at 40:37 you were doing the calculation for AC peak-to-peak that's the voltage differential between the maximum positive and negative peaks. When you convert peak-to-peak into DC only the positive (and/or negative) charges remain from zero to peak(not "1").
You likely had the non peak-to-peak AC voltage and to calculate that is just "AC Voltage=DC Voltage"(Not counting for efficiency loss.).
Thanks, your video gave me a better understanding on troubleshooting.
Thank you for lesson. I like "steps". Helps me organize.
THANKS DAMN GOOD VIDEO LESSON REALLY HELPS BEGINNERS 5 STARS!!!
Very clear explanation and straight to the point.
When 680 people dislike an instructional video something is not right. Many positive comments, no doubt, but for that many to dislike it seems curious.
This is a great lesson man. I learned how the rectification works in bridge rectifier clear as day, Thanks! you are awesome, SUBSCRIBED!
Hope your other videos are this great!
That was a very good troubleshooting exercise, looks forward to see more of those
yes you right, it was so refreshing practical lecture.
Please i want you to go more further on electronic. I like your explanation.
This is a huge thank you so much for doing this video. I'm a high voltage self taught electrian. An I once had a chance to learn electronics back in 95 but quit my job because of an evil women. But I wouldn't be a high voltage electrian then,thank you so much.
What?
Fantastic down to earth tutorial video.
Something else to look for in visual inspection. If there is vibration, sometimes heavy parts will lift the traces off of the PCB and break them or break the solder connections.
Thanks for the intro course....I learned a lot
This knowledge I've shared is from my 2 yrs College EET, 1986 - 1988.
sir your effort is very nice to educate others we are also trying the same plz keep it up
best video on this ive ever seen
I haven't even watched it yet and I already know this is the best video on UA-cam! We need more videos like this :) You just earned yourself a subscriber!
This is not the best video on You Tube!!!
@@Washburn-rr5eh It was more basic than I was hoping, but an instructional walk through of a procedure, in my opinion, makes for a great video. We do need more of these.
There are too many vlogs and other useless stuff on youtube it gets exhausting. Its hard to sort through the garbage experiments and builds to find someone who is willing to actually teach you something in a way we can learn instead of just blast through a procedure to prove to you how smart they are.
@@TropicalEncounter nice thoughts. A agree with all of that. Thoguh it requires a little bit of patience, this is where we learn
Nice video .. I have watched full length ... Thank you bro
That was really good. Reminds me of my basic electronic technology classes years ago.
Awsome video! You present your process very clearly, I followed along easily!
Thank you, much appreciate your patience.
Really useful video. Many thanks for creating it.
This was just what I was looking for thank you for your wisdom and information
Was it ?
Thank you friend for the great video . I've worked for several years diagnosing automotive electrical and electronics. Testing sensors, actuators and wiring but never really understood circuit boards . Subscribing :-) Thanks
great thank you ! hope you will continue making videos like these
Switch mode power supplies...... sometime easy to troubleshoot, sometimes not.....but a good Meyer and a ESR meter will come handy without a diagram .....nice video
I really like and appreciate the way you explained step by step your troubleshooting procedure. Many thanks, I just subed.