Thanks for this. Good to see them hands on in use. Reading the questions below also confirms that I can use a UF8 to control parameters in software instruments, so that's great to know. 😎
I Definitively share the same opinion... I have the UC-1 and I love it.... I use the Platform M+ for motorized faders and with cubase 12 I can make it do anything I want (Focused Quick Controlls and Midi Remote Editor). . . . UC-1 and "muscle memory" is the best. . . that really speads up the workflow. and SSL plugins, second to none.... so this "limits" you in amounts but that's in the best way possible... resulting in you getting faster and better. I still use other plugins, but for special things, definitively a smaller percentage of the project... the rest is just UC-1
well said - the fancy plugins have their place with a specific problem. As Andrew Scheps said - don't go looking for problems - address them when they are there. (like - don't need a Soothe 2 on every channel. :)
Essentially the same thing as the Console 1, the form factor is better on the UC1, especially if you already have the UF8 but the Console 1 app has the graphical curve display that the UC1 lacks . . . .
yeah, I wasn't a fan of the wonky Softube plugin because it didn't look vintage, nor modern- and -oddly didn't look like the controller either - it's mapped, but not the same thing. And the software gets in the way a bit, and sometimes doesn't switch correctly back and forth. The graphic thing was cool though . I returned the Softube Console 1 really fast after 4 weeks - was more of a hassle for me, compared to mouse / trackpad, but I'd be willing to try it again. Definitely a good product overall.
I had issues with my console 1. I sent it to back softube for evaluation. It was out of warranty so they said they would sell me another unit at a discount. Which came out to be little over half price. That didn’t sit to well with me. I just feel that they should’ve sent me other unit. I’m sure they had another used unit laying around. Hell I would’ve taken that. But anyway the Uc1 looks like a better option.
you;d insert it in the Daw. Then on UF 8, you use the right hand arrow keys to navigate from 1 to 8. You;d have to have PLUGIN on the left pressed first. If nothing pops up, just press down on the rotary encoder wheel, and the plugin will pop up for that channel.
@@massivebeatzz But if u dont have a plugin in the slot 2 for example, u can map the uf8 for add la2a in that slot or u need to use the mouse for it? Thank u for ur answer
Greetings! I would like to ask (if I may,) UC1/UF8, do you know if they have any surround sound control/capability? Also, what about if you were to use Nuendo as your DAW? Any thoughts you could provide?
sure - it would seems so. The rotary encoders reads teh channel options from each track, in regards to panning etc. So you should be able to control that. As far as Nuendo, I do not see it listed in the DAWs in SSL360 control software - so I would rather say, not at this point.
Yes, but I have seen some set up’s for using this with Cubase, so I’m incline to believe Nuendo would work as well, as they share the same core architecture. But thank you for your prompt response!😊
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Quick question: when you select a track in the DAW, the UF8 automatically recognizes where you are in the session? I usually work with a big template of 800+ tracks, and scrolling with the UF8 to find the track wouldn’t work. Thanks!
Yes it does. DAW (in my case Logic) follows UF8, and UF8 follows Logic - whatever gets selected anywhere the other jumps to it. Also note, that you'll be much faster scrolling on the UF8 than with a mouse or trackball in your DAW to get to track number 745 (dang) since you can jump in groups of 8 and flip through those tracks quickly - but yeah, either way works.
Hey bro. I think the biggest thing I want to do to help my mixes is get the fader 8. I think that’s more value since sometimes I need to automate two or more channels . I think I can get away with DQ settings because I have my sweet spots saved up along with compression sweet spots too. What do you think I should get ?
Hey - i'd be happy to chime in. When you say automate two or more channels with Faderport 8- do you assume the UF8 can't do it? I hope I got that right. For that, at any rate both can do well. If you have Studio one, I think you;d be ok with FP8 - the integration is a bit better than for other DAWS. The UF will still be better based on more functions, and a better software - but do we need that to automate? No not at all. I'd save the money .
@@massivebeatzz sorry i was drowsy and on meds while writing that. With all the autocorrect going on I wanted to ask do I really need a UC1 if my workflow on the SSL channel is to save my favorite dynamics ratios along with EQ settings? I think I just need the Uf8 if I want to automate right ? I am already subscribed to the yearly plugins with SSL BTW.
The Nucleus (1 and 2 ) look great - but they need to be set up with Ethernet. So a bit of a hassle to set up,. It's more like UF8 vs Nucleus , UF8 wins. The UC1 is something else altogether.
@@massivebeatzz I have the Nucleus 2 and the UC1. Work great together as long as you have the channel strip plug-in open. Whenever you select a channel on the Nucleus, the UC1 and the 360 software follow. Was thinking about swapping for two UF8’s but I can’t. Nucleus is my Hub. Daw Control, monitor section, talkback, mic pre’s are at the end of my summing chain, dedicated transport and shuttle. But if I didn’t already have it, I’d get the 2 UF8’s to sandwich my UC1 between.
So that they can change things later on? Also the E switch goes from SSL9000K to 4000E, perhaps the numbers are different? But I agree - it'd be nice to see them.
Yes. You would access them through plugin control which defaults to rotary knobs. But then you can press "Flip", and the Faders will control virtual instruments. plugins etc (whether AU, VST or AAX etc)
I think the UC1 and the UF1 is all you need unless you feel the need for multiple faders then you can get the UF8
Yeah - I gave the UF8 back, and concentrate on the UF1 and UC1 together
Thanks for this. Good to see them hands on in use.
Reading the questions below also confirms that I can use a UF8 to control parameters in software instruments, so that's great to know. 😎
Glad I could help! Check my latest video. You are in for a treat, in terms of functionality I just discovered (a user made me aware).
@@massivebeatzz Cheers man. Just saved to my favourites list ready for when I get the UF8.
Great video! I just purchased the UC1 today! Can't wait to play around with it tomorrow.
Thanks - and that's exciting. Enjoy!
Just bought it today can’t wait to play with jt tomorrow ! 🔥
It was very convincing, witnessing how the quality did improve drastically.
Thx for the presentation, very important and interesting question about these stuffs. (Vocal theme doesnt fit for piano harmonies by the way... :) )
Glad it was helpful!
Tracks following. It's a big win against Console1x Fader in logic Pro X. Yeah, I'm sold. Time to switch. thanks for the vid
Thanks much - Great to hear! Yep, the integration is air tight, I had Console1 and found myself touching teh mouse / keyboard too often.
I Definitively share the same opinion... I have the UC-1 and I love it.... I use the Platform M+ for motorized faders and with cubase 12 I can make it do anything I want (Focused Quick Controlls and Midi Remote Editor). . . .
UC-1 and "muscle memory" is the best. . . that really speads up the workflow. and SSL plugins, second to none.... so this "limits" you in amounts but that's in the best way possible... resulting in you getting faster and better.
I still use other plugins, but for special things, definitively a smaller percentage of the project... the rest is just UC-1
well said - the fancy plugins have their place with a specific problem. As Andrew Scheps said - don't go looking for problems - address them when they are there. (like - don't need a Soothe 2 on every channel. :)
Essentially the same thing as the Console 1, the form factor is better on the UC1, especially if you already have the UF8 but the Console 1 app has the graphical curve display that the UC1 lacks . . . .
yeah, I wasn't a fan of the wonky Softube plugin because it didn't look vintage, nor modern- and -oddly didn't look like the controller either - it's mapped, but not the same thing. And the software gets in the way a bit, and sometimes doesn't switch correctly back and forth. The graphic thing was cool though . I returned the Softube Console 1 really fast after 4 weeks - was more of a hassle for me, compared to mouse / trackpad, but I'd be willing to try it again. Definitely a good product overall.
I had issues with my console 1. I sent it to back softube for evaluation. It was out of warranty so they said they would sell me another unit at a discount. Which came out to be little over half price. That didn’t sit to well with me. I just feel that they should’ve sent me other unit. I’m sure they had another used unit laying around. Hell I would’ve taken that. But anyway the Uc1 looks like a better option.
Really useful. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
great info and dope music. thanks
Thanks for listening Much appreciated.
Yeah the music rocks.
Bro, how do u setup the plugins as 1, 2, 3 on the uf8 so when u press the button the plugin is inserted in that slot?
you;d insert it in the Daw. Then on UF 8, you use the right hand arrow keys to navigate from 1 to 8. You;d have to have PLUGIN on the left pressed first. If nothing pops up, just press down on the rotary encoder wheel, and the plugin will pop up for that channel.
@@massivebeatzz But if u dont have a plugin in the slot 2 for example, u can map the uf8 for add la2a in that slot or u need to use the mouse for it? Thank u for ur answer
@@MozartMuzik you can use UF 8. You turn the knobs, and then press down, and it loads the plugin :)! Thank you for asking this overlooked question.
Greetings!
I would like to ask (if I may,) UC1/UF8, do you know if they have any surround sound control/capability? Also, what about if you were to use Nuendo as your DAW? Any thoughts you could provide?
sure - it would seems so. The rotary encoders reads teh channel options from each track, in regards to panning etc. So you should be able to control that. As far as Nuendo, I do not see it listed in the DAWs in SSL360 control software - so I would rather say, not at this point.
Yes, but I have seen some set up’s for using this with Cubase, so I’m incline to believe Nuendo would work as well, as they share the same core architecture. But thank you for your prompt response!😊
That's a good point. If you go to SSL support website - they are very good and fast at answering questions if you send them an email!
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Quick question: when you select a track in the DAW, the UF8 automatically recognizes where you are in the session? I usually work with a big template of 800+ tracks, and scrolling with the UF8 to find the track wouldn’t work. Thanks!
Yes it does. DAW (in my case Logic) follows UF8, and UF8 follows Logic - whatever gets selected anywhere the other jumps to it. Also note, that you'll be much faster scrolling on the UF8 than with a mouse or trackball in your DAW to get to track number 745 (dang) since you can jump in groups of 8 and flip through those tracks quickly - but yeah, either way works.
Awesome! Thanks so much!
Hey bro. I think the biggest thing I want to do to help my mixes is get the fader 8. I think that’s more value since sometimes I need to automate two or more channels . I think I can get away with DQ settings because I have my sweet spots saved up along with compression sweet spots too. What do you think I should get ?
Hey - i'd be happy to chime in. When you say automate two or more channels with Faderport 8- do you assume the UF8 can't do it? I hope I got that right. For that, at any rate both can do well. If you have Studio one, I think you;d be ok with FP8 - the integration is a bit better than for other DAWS. The UF will still be better based on more functions, and a better software - but do we need that to automate? No not at all. I'd save the money .
@@massivebeatzz sorry i was drowsy and on meds while writing that. With all the autocorrect going on I wanted to ask do I really need a UC1 if my workflow on the SSL channel is to save my favorite dynamics ratios along with EQ settings? I think I just need the Uf8 if I want to automate right ? I am already subscribed to the yearly plugins with SSL BTW.
gotcha - no need at all - you'd be fine withe the UF8, it can do it all.
Do have to map 3rd party plugins to the uf8 or does it just sees them and work?
just sees them and maps automatically. Nothing for you to do.
I’m debating on getting the SSL Nucleus or UC1…
I’m definitely getting the UC8.
What’s your thoughts??
The Nucleus (1 and 2 ) look great - but they need to be set up with Ethernet. So a bit of a hassle to set up,. It's more like UF8 vs Nucleus , UF8 wins. The UC1 is something else altogether.
@@massivebeatzz I have the Nucleus 2 and the UC1. Work great together as long as you have the channel strip plug-in open. Whenever you select a channel on the Nucleus, the UC1 and the 360 software follow. Was thinking about swapping for two UF8’s but I can’t. Nucleus is my Hub. Daw Control, monitor section, talkback, mic pre’s are at the end of my summing chain, dedicated transport and shuttle. But if I didn’t already have it, I’d get the 2 UF8’s to sandwich my UC1 between.
@@richiefamus8778 that's what I call a setup. If you have a stable Nucleus 2along with a UC1 - that's productivity right there!
The Nucleus 2 has been discontinued. I would not buy a product brand new that was discontinued
No numbers around the knobs ssl why ????
So that they can change things later on? Also the E switch goes from SSL9000K to 4000E, perhaps the numbers are different? But I agree - it'd be nice to see them.
There are numbers present on screen when using the 360 consul software with the UC1 (or without the UC1).
WHAT CAN THE UC1 DO WITH 3RD PARTY PUGS?
good question. At the moment NOTHING - but any good programmer should be able to work around that. I like your thinking!
These controllers
Don't stop Computer music from sound digital
made by SSL itself. The UF8 is a mixing controller. Doesn't stop you from using outboard gear.
Can you use motorised faders to record automation for VST instrument parameters?
Yes. You would access them through plugin control which defaults to rotary knobs. But then you can press "Flip", and the Faders will control virtual instruments. plugins etc (whether AU, VST or AAX etc)
How about neither
Get some Hardware gear and run your mixes through analog gear
You can, and these two don't stop you from doing that.