Just gonna say this Thomas as someone from within the Wooting community, the Wooting team decided to give you a Lekker Edition as opposed to the HE because you're a special reviewer to them ;)
As someone coming from the ShortCircuit video of this similar keyboard, this is way more superior in terms of describing and analysing everything this board has to offer. Your the golden keyboard reviewer every other tech reviewer should strive to be Thomas, analytic, what you see is what you get type, and a balance between subjective opinion and objective facts. Keep being you my man :)
ShortCircuit's videos are really hit or miss since they're very short, shallow overviews... the channel is meant to appeal to more casual viewers than LTT.
@@TheBertjeT as others have said, you're simply misunderstanding what that channels purpose is. It was quite literally made to film someone open a product that was always being opened and looked at, but niche enough to not warrant a full video. It's practically just an unboxing channel.
@@RILURILUCR0C0DILU nope this is the wooting lekker edition. the limited edition run. you are prolly refering to the wooting two he which has the same switches and pcb but uses the classic sleek black look and keycaps
Been waiting for this review for months, not gonna lie 😅 I love my Lekker Edition!!! Been my main keyboard ever since I received it. The color scheme has grown on me and I am in love with linear switches now more than ever.
Hoping they shave some $50 out of this price when they release the TKL version, which would bring the price down to a more digestible range. But it's nice to know this design lived up to all the hype Wooting had been building around it (if it's good for Thomas, it'll sure enough be good for all of us :)!
IIRC the guys at Wooting have mentioned they won't be releasing a TKL until they release their "Project V" keyboard. Which is a smaller form-factor keyboard than TKL (no official statement on what it specifically is, but 60% and 65% are the leading theories).
This is much better review (and more detailed) than that one from ShortCircuit! - they didn't even bother to install the right software and they didn't use analog on some games they showcased.
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I'm not really in to prebuilts but damn this is interesting technology. Rapid Trigger seems like the most interesting feature besides variable actuation.
I agree with you about the switches, they are so smooth!!! Got the Lekker edition not too long ago. It was a semi upgrade from a pre built mechanical I bought awhile ago. Second I started typing on it, I was pleased with the purchase. Makes me question if I still want to build a custom keyboard or not
I'm glad to hear this, thanks for the review. Jusr ot purchased a wooting 2 he based on your review of the first one. I was going to get the Apex pro, but the wootility programme just seems to much more straight forward, and the fact it doesn't background run is exciting. Excited to get my Two HE now.
It is commonly said hall effect switches are these incredibly long life switches but I want to add a caveat. I have an acepad tech hall effect board that has had two or three switch failures and that is more and faster than any board I've owned. What happened seemed to be the stem binding on the top switch housing making them stick down. It came with spares possibly in anticipation of the issue so w/e but just a PSA that the durability of a switch isn't just it's theoretical number of presses - which in a contactless switch sure is greater - but also the build quality of the parts. I have a Wooting Two Lekker and it's one of my favourites! Thanks for another great vid.
Hey Thomas! Quick correction for the midi program thingy you mention towards the end of your review: it isn't used to create midi music, however it is used as a midi input in order to use the keyboard as, well, a keyboard instrument! Much like a piano and such.
This possibility was actually a question in my mind after the initial intro video, as it seemed immediately an obvious application for an analogue keyboard. It seems almost indispensable for a modern DJ or these digital artists around.
On compatibility: Pretty much all games that would benefit from analog motion support joystick input (racing, flying, fighting, things like Elden ring, Nioh for example). You wouldn't want analog input for your typical fps, this is actually one huge advantage that keyboard / mouse input have over joysticks in games where console / pc multiplayer populations are mixed. You want your motion to be abrupt and jittery as it makes it more difficult to get hit.
I'm thinking their next version is gonna let you plug your mouse into the keyboard so it can output right joystick as well, then you don't have a compatibility issue anymore its just emulating a full gamepad.
You could get PBT caps for the original Wooting Two when your ordered it. I did. Definite difference between them and the stock ABS caps. Makes the Two feel much nicer.
I think 65% / 75% will sell incredibly well. Even tkl will sell well, i think 60% makes too much compromise for most people. Honestly i wish they would add some different case options. I simply dont like floating keycaps and the whole gamer aestheic. It doesnt have to go korean custom style but a more moderate styling would look nice imo, just a high top in decent colours.
Good review. Sad that the Lekker Edition (this color scheme) isnt available anymore since it was a limited edition preorder. The production model will be called Wooting Two HE and use the Lekker switches but be a normal black keyboard. Just 2 small mentions/corrections: - Tachyon (less latency between matrix scans) was a feature before Lekker/HE on both the Wooting One and Two. (8:30) - Lekker Edition is not available in TKL. The Wooting Two HE comes as a full-size and there is a new project in 60% being worked on but no TKL as of yet. (10:20)
@_Schwalbe_262_ i mean they did make 1000 of them and the preorder was going on for at least half a year. has been around 2years since the preorders opened.
Great review as always, but you mentioned that DKS is "still in beta after all these years". But ironically enough Wooting have said they will be releasing an update soon to improve/fix DKS with additional analog controls and mouse buttons. So a little to early with that verdict.
Not only very comprehensive, but also equally as amusing. Thank you, now I can sleep like a baby knowing that my Wooting two HE pre-order is on it's way.
Very nice! Thanks to you I've added boards beyond clicky to what I like. I've tried the contactless wooting one and two, razor, steelseries, and I have to say they are terrific. Good job as always Tom, it's a real pleasure to see you :-)
Great review, has learned some new things about the keyboard! Would be nice if you mentioned that they produced only 1000 units of this version, but I guess you've covered it in the unboxing video. Has been using it daily since i received it, just wish the actuation force would be a bit lower as on the steelseries which I use at work. Smoothness is superb indeed!
It's totally doable to learn to control the actuation of the switch, so much so that it doesn't really matter what OD you play. My browns that I've abused for 3 1/2 years have come to a point where they click on a slight nudge, but even that hasn't really affected me playing HR over the years; it's all about learning to control your switch.
Great review as always. Finally we're making progress on the art and science of Imperial units. So here's a question: How are these ultra-smooth contactless keyboards purely from a typing perspective? I imagine being able to customize the actuation point per-key would help if you were to put in the time. But despite the massive smoothness that you attest to, there's still no tactile bump. Do the benefits of the contactless switches outweigh the lack of a tactile bump for typists? Oh and here's a cultural question for the Dutch: Can you use "lekker" like Sacha Baron-Cohen uses "aladeen"? "I have aladeen news and aladeen news. Which do you want first?" "Aladeen." "You are HIV aladeen."
It feels nice, not like your usual linear switch. Like typing on a cloud. But you will need to relearn your habits and type a bit lighter, otherwise your fingers may hurt a bit from all the bottoming out. I type around 1500 to 3000 words daily, got it set up to be really sensitive, and just kinda skate from key to key. I would be interested in trying a tactile lekker, but I can live with these ones for sure.
I've been using a linear keyboard at the office for years now - even typed my thesis on it. The myth that you somehow can't use linears to type on is a holdover of dumbed-down marketing speak. Just use what you like to use! :)
dutch person here. you can't use lekker like aladeen! its more like where you can use it in a lot of instances but its not a word you just throw around
Thomas, I would LOVE to see you review the TTCxSkylar switches from Helix. I think they're pretty unique clicky switches compared to most modern ones. Great video as usual my man.
@@Lemminjoose Eh, I'm not really interested in MX-type switches to be honest. They've saturated the market completely and when it comes down to it all its clones are so similar that it's kinda useless to try and distinguish them. The MX design is also not particularly good at anything, in my opinion (bad linears, no tactility, and terrible clicky sound).
thanks for the review, the features seem great! I'm a big fan of the keycaps haha but i think they'd look even better with a white plate vs this bluish one
I'd love to get those switches individually and put them in a high-end custom. That low-profile integrated plate design looks cheap and awful and is a turn-off for me but if I could stick it in a custom, would buy in a heartbeat.
I feel you, honestly that's why Im waiting with my money. I neither want boutique 600$ kb with colorful MX bullshit, nor real high-end, high tech switches in a flimsy board. Have cheap board with cheap MX switches and when i upgrade I GONNA UPGRADE LIKE A BOSS.
@@VishnuZutaten What are you going to upgrade to though? Doesn't seem like there's a board out there with what you're looking for, unless you're going for an alps build which is very rare for customs or you're into the vintage look enough to get an 80s keyboard.
Yeah, the design is just completely a downturn for me. It has the gamer aesthetic of 5 to 10 years ago. With the standard all black keycaps this looks even worse. I know a keyboard first and foremost should type good, but as someone older the optic would partially embarass me if others visit me, like im still stuck as a 18 year old gamer. I think for hall effects you would need a new pcb wouldn't you? So there would need to be a new type of custom board with pcb for you to use those switches. Personally if they made this board with a nice chunky high top abs case in like a decent white or grey i think it would be fine. If they made a 75 or 65 version that would be awesome, wont need a custom then anymore.
This keyboard has a lot of hollowness and reverberation when you type on it. The custom keyboard folks will definitely find a better way to implement this hall effect switches in the metal frame keyboards soon.
I have the original Wooting. The DKS is great, I use it in RTS games to reinforce. I press once, but I do actually reinforce 4 times. Instead of pressing 4 times the same key, I press it once and the DKS does it for me. Also I remapped a few keys to actually execute the same function. For example, on a tank the smoke is F, on another vehicle the same ability is E, so I programmed the DKS to do sequentially F and E, so I don't have to remember all the shortcuts. It's really cool that you can also disable some keys completely. I do personally highlight the keys I use for that particular game, and I do reprogram the nearby keys, so if I press T (retreat) and Y, I actually retreat. It's helpful, because it's easy to miss a key when you are focused on the gameplay. The typing experience imho on the original Wooting is not the best in class, but it's better than any keyboard using Cherry MX switches. But for gaming the keyboard is great, and the software is very good and constantly updated. Forget instead to use it as a controller. I tried with GTA and you can't drive. Very poor experience. For me the killer feature is the DKS, it's simply great.
Hall effect and normal switches are my favorite. I don't like optical because it relies too much on pcb. Probably in ease to mod/fix is: normal, hall, optical
Ayy, Blur! I remember that game, good stuff. Never woulda guessed I'd see it mentioned here. Looks like a pretty good upgrade over the old Wootings. $240 though... the pricing on these newfangled ultra-smooth boards is a _bit_ silly, gotta say.
Research and development cost money and human resources, so if the board has top tier switches, and user-friendly software, I'd say it's a board that is worth its high price.
@@0name933 It is certainly a good board, however for me, the extra smoothness of a contactless switch compared to a good linear MX type (Gateron, cream, ink, etc) isn't worth the price hike, MX linears can be made pretty darn smooth. I'd personally rather just buy a Leopold and mod it, maybe put the savings towards a nice set of MT3 or SA caps.
@@yiepie9822 Yes, the unique software that turns my keyboard into a crappy substitute joystick that doesn't even work half the time. Definitely a feature that I need and totally worth $240! I have a gamepad for a reason.
I have one of these and I like it a lot. It's very useful for me that they have a version of the control software for Linux. I hope that they take up the Input Club beam spring switch attempt and get Gateron make a beam spring variant of the hot swappable switches. I think this would work very well with the dual actuation, since you could set one keypress before the click and a second one after.
note: only $200 for the lekker edition, standard edition is cheaper edit: just checked, its $175-195 depending on which keycaps you choose or the lack thereof
I had a thought while watching this: Would it work/is it possible to have the highest actuation point(so I think 3.6mm for Lekker, 4.0 for the Two HE) be caps for each letter? Like if you press lightly, you get the non caps version, and then just disable the caps lock entirely? Seems like a lot of extra work, honestly, to avoid hitting caps, but I'm more wondering if that's doable. I don't have a wooting keyboard yet(batch one HE) so wouldn't know. I do like the idea of maxing out the actuation of caps though to avoid accidental hits! I'm just curious if having the farthest point on a key press be the caps for the key, if that would work well or poorly for typing in general. lol.
I personally am waiting for a hall effect tkl keyboard that has better keycap compatibility because I have a set that I would like to use, but the Apex Pro TKL has those weird bulbs on the switches for the LED's making them incompatible, so I guess I will have to wait for the Lekker TKL, whenever that comes along.
Pssh, everyone knows the best esports gaming keyboard is his IBM 4978 beamspring keyboard with the solenoid on. (jk!) Great Review! This was a very interesting video. While $240 for the Lekker Edition is a bit of a stretch. They are accepting pre-orders for the HE version for $184. Still up there in price, but a more accepting price. I kind of like the quirky colors even if the light bleed is a bit...weird. I also agree with you that I don't understand the point of lubing switches. I mean unless you like to make your keyboard sound like you're fapping every time you hit the space bar.
Now if that keyboard had some kind of system to set the travel distance of the keys (not the actuation but actual travel distance from top to bottom) it would be close to perfect :3
How come they interfere with cherry keycaps? Because of the north facing led? I know for standard switch designs these rules apply not sure though about this design
The original Wooting is definitely not indescructible. I know this, because I can never go more than a few months without drowning my keyboards in coffee, coke, beer, spunk or a combination of the above.
Mine wasn't $240. I paid $199.99 even after shipping and tax... for some reason it was a straight 200 either way. I thought it would've been $240 as well, but it wasn't :P Thanks for your review!
Just gonna say this Thomas as someone from within the Wooting community, the Wooting team decided to give you a Lekker Edition as opposed to the HE because you're a special reviewer to them ;)
there is a lekker edition and a HE (Hall Effect)? Are they not the same?
@@stopdropandroll Lekker edition is simply an aesthetic change, same switches
How did you get that keybord
Tbf Wootility wins just for the name alone
Better than Synapse ;)
As someone coming from the ShortCircuit video of this similar keyboard, this is way more superior in terms of describing and analysing everything this board has to offer. Your the golden keyboard reviewer every other tech reviewer should strive to be Thomas, analytic, what you see is what you get type, and a balance between subjective opinion and objective facts. Keep being you my man :)
ShortCircuit did a really bad job....
@@TheBertjeT It was infuriating I tell ya, didn't do the keyboard justice.
ShortCircuit's videos are really hit or miss since they're very short, shallow overviews... the channel is meant to appeal to more casual viewers than LTT.
@@TheBertjeT as others have said, you're simply misunderstanding what that channels purpose is. It was quite literally made to film someone open a product that was always being opened and looked at, but niche enough to not warrant a full video. It's practically just an unboxing channel.
@@fVNzO Being misinformed is worse than uninformed.
I absolutely love how it looks. I own one and I adore its weird unique look.
I believe these are the early bird keycaps.
love it too but i dont like the light bleed effect
Do you happen to live in Bulgaria, and where did you find one if you don't mind me asking? Thanks!
@@Antimonyish I am from Bulgaria and I pre-ordered it while it was in development.
The WooTing Two HE is what you are looking for now.
@@RILURILUCR0C0DILU nope this is the wooting lekker edition. the limited edition run. you are prolly refering to the wooting two he which has the same switches and pcb but uses the classic sleek black look and keycaps
Been waiting for this review for months, not gonna lie 😅 I love my Lekker Edition!!! Been my main keyboard ever since I received it. The color scheme has grown on me and I am in love with linear switches now more than ever.
Hoping they shave some $50 out of this price when they release the TKL version, which would bring the price down to a more digestible range. But it's nice to know this design lived up to all the hype Wooting had been building around it (if it's good for Thomas, it'll sure enough be good for all of us :)!
IIRC the guys at Wooting have mentioned they won't be releasing a TKL until they release their "Project V" keyboard. Which is a smaller form-factor keyboard than TKL (no official statement on what it specifically is, but 60% and 65% are the leading theories).
@@dpear3 Hmmm... That sounds... Interesting! 🧐
@@dpear3 60% industry standard layout, revealed last stream
Sam, we meet again.
@@esra_erimez You his ex?
those media keys are... in such a perfect spot
thumb on function, middle finger on the media key. sure beats razer's two handed affair
Has been my main keyboard for personal and professional use for a while now :)
What a lovely keyboard. I wish I could still get that "hideous" keyset.
This is much better review (and more detailed) than that one from ShortCircuit! - they didn't even bother to install the right software and they didn't use analog on some games they showcased.
Thank you! What do you expect for an actual keyboard reviewer :)
so LTT from that erra because LTT are thunder cunts, from that erra.
you should really make a full video in Dutch. would be super fun and interesting lol
Yes please
Does he even know Dutch?
@@Desmaad hou je kop
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@@Desmaad he knows dutch well enough to translate its swear words into english
I'm not really in to prebuilts but damn this is interesting technology. Rapid Trigger seems like the most interesting feature besides variable actuation.
Oh god he’s doubling down on “Ctrl is jump”
I don't make the rules, man! It's just an unavoidable fact of life! Ctrl is jump!
@@Chyrosran22 that's barbaric
Chyrosran casually undoing 20 years worth of gaming muscle memory for shits and giggles
It's actually not a bad idea. The space bar is so accessible and gives so much feedback that it's kind of a waste to use it for jump.
@@lukeboyd3226 But at the same time you don't really use proning as often
The key caps somehow feel old school yet fresh to me.
I agree with you about the switches, they are so smooth!!! Got the Lekker edition not too long ago. It was a semi upgrade from a pre built mechanical I bought awhile ago. Second I started typing on it, I was pleased with the purchase. Makes me question if I still want to build a custom keyboard or not
The switches sound quite clacky. Is that just the sound when it hits the board ? and can it be fixed with rubber bands on the switches?
I'm glad to hear this, thanks for the review. Jusr ot purchased a wooting 2 he based on your review of the first one. I was going to get the Apex pro, but the wootility programme just seems to much more straight forward, and the fact it doesn't background run is exciting. Excited to get my Two HE now.
It is commonly said hall effect switches are these incredibly long life switches but I want to add a caveat. I have an acepad tech hall effect board that has had two or three switch failures and that is more and faster than any board I've owned. What happened seemed to be the stem binding on the top switch housing making them stick down. It came with spares possibly in anticipation of the issue so w/e but just a PSA that the durability of a switch isn't just it's theoretical number of presses - which in a contactless switch sure is greater - but also the build quality of the parts. I have a Wooting Two Lekker and it's one of my favourites! Thanks for another great vid.
APT keyboards are kinda crap though.
After I got my Lekker edition I can no longer use regular keyboards. I'm almost certain they dip these switches in butter before they leave gateron.
Keyboard jesus i am concerned about you, i havent been hearing from you recently i hope youre okay
he said he won't do weekly videos anymore, it's in his most recent Q&A video
I like the colour scheme
Hey Thomas! Quick correction for the midi program thingy you mention towards the end of your review: it isn't used to create midi music, however it is used as a midi input in order to use the keyboard as, well, a keyboard instrument! Much like a piano and such.
Oh, so it's the opposite basically? Not output but input?
This possibility was actually a question in my mind after the initial intro video, as it seemed immediately an obvious application for an analogue keyboard. It seems almost indispensable for a modern DJ or these digital artists around.
@@Chyrosran22 Yup, it basically allows using the keyboard with a music creation software to play virtual instruments.
@@Chyrosran22 It outputs midi ua-cam.com/video/B6rGESv3wNI/v-deo.html
@@furniksadventures9660 Yes, that's exactly what I imagined it would look like. Did I say it wrong then? xD
hmm, a _good_ keyboard? A _sexy_ keyboard? an _attractive_ keyboard?
Guess it is all of them!
On compatibility: Pretty much all games that would benefit from analog motion support joystick input (racing, flying, fighting, things like Elden ring, Nioh for example). You wouldn't want analog input for your typical fps, this is actually one huge advantage that keyboard / mouse input have over joysticks in games where console / pc multiplayer populations are mixed. You want your motion to be abrupt and jittery as it makes it more difficult to get hit.
I'm thinking their next version is gonna let you plug your mouse into the keyboard so it can output right joystick as well, then you don't have a compatibility issue anymore its just emulating a full gamepad.
You could get PBT caps for the original Wooting Two when your ordered it. I did. Definite difference between them and the stock ABS caps. Makes the Two feel much nicer.
I think 65% / 75% will sell incredibly well. Even tkl will sell well, i think 60% makes too much compromise for most people.
Honestly i wish they would add some different case options. I simply dont like floating keycaps and the whole gamer aestheic. It doesnt have to go korean custom style but a more moderate styling would look nice imo, just a high top in decent colours.
Goddamn these caps look amazing
I think they look great but the bleed through is terrible. Fine for me since I'd just turn off the Christmas lighting anyway.
@@gyozakeynsianism Turning the switches by 180° makes it a bit better. Then the sad smiley isn't as visible...
Good review. Sad that the Lekker Edition (this color scheme) isnt available anymore since it was a limited edition preorder.
The production model will be called Wooting Two HE and use the Lekker switches but be a normal black keyboard.
Just 2 small mentions/corrections:
- Tachyon (less latency between matrix scans) was a feature before Lekker/HE on both the Wooting One and Two. (8:30)
- Lekker Edition is not available in TKL. The Wooting Two HE comes as a full-size and there is a new project in 60% being worked on but no TKL as of yet. (10:20)
When the responses are sus 😳
@_Schwalbe_262_ i mean they did make 1000 of them and the preorder was going on for at least half a year. has been around 2years since the preorders opened.
Great review as always, but you mentioned that DKS is "still in beta after all these years". But ironically enough Wooting have said they will be releasing an update soon to improve/fix DKS with additional analog controls and mouse buttons. So a little to early with that verdict.
Not only very comprehensive, but also equally as amusing. Thank you, now I can sleep like a baby knowing that my Wooting two HE pre-order is on it's way.
Wootility is a banger name
Very nice! Thanks to you I've added boards beyond clicky to what I like. I've tried the contactless wooting one and two, razor, steelseries, and I have to say they are terrific.
Good job as always Tom, it's a real pleasure to see you :-)
The 2HE may be the last keyboard I will ever need to buy. Typing has never been this much fun, not kidding!
Great review, has learned some new things about the keyboard! Would be nice if you mentioned that they produced only 1000 units of this version, but I guess you've covered it in the unboxing video. Has been using it daily since i received it, just wish the actuation force would be a bit lower as on the steelseries which I use at work. Smoothness is superb indeed!
I love the fact that the entirety of his gta gameplay is just him hitting stuff💀
lmaao
thank you for notifying us that the spring is NOT mx compatible.
The previous wooting is, I had changed my spring to 20cN and it works prfectly.
9:33 As an osu! player, I think that the Rapid trigger feature may ruin your accuracy especially when playing maps with high OD
As an Audiosurf player, I declare war
it would be very interesting to try for sure
@@fotoschopro1230 you guys still exist?
It's totally doable to learn to control the actuation of the switch, so much so that it doesn't really matter what OD you play. My browns that I've abused for 3 1/2 years have come to a point where they click on a slight nudge, but even that hasn't really affected me playing HR over the years; it's all about learning to control your switch.
Rapid trigger is not a good feature for rhythm game accuracy.
Great review as always. Finally we're making progress on the art and science of Imperial units.
So here's a question: How are these ultra-smooth contactless keyboards purely from a typing perspective? I imagine being able to customize the actuation point per-key would help if you were to put in the time. But despite the massive smoothness that you attest to, there's still no tactile bump. Do the benefits of the contactless switches outweigh the lack of a tactile bump for typists?
Oh and here's a cultural question for the Dutch: Can you use "lekker" like Sacha Baron-Cohen uses "aladeen"? "I have aladeen news and aladeen news. Which do you want first?" "Aladeen." "You are HIV aladeen."
It feels nice, not like your usual linear switch. Like typing on a cloud. But you will need to relearn your habits and type a bit lighter, otherwise your fingers may hurt a bit from all the bottoming out. I type around 1500 to 3000 words daily, got it set up to be really sensitive, and just kinda skate from key to key. I would be interested in trying a tactile lekker, but I can live with these ones for sure.
I've been using a linear keyboard at the office for years now - even typed my thesis on it. The myth that you somehow can't use linears to type on is a holdover of dumbed-down marketing speak. Just use what you like to use! :)
@@krazislav @Chyrosran22 Thank you guys. That's lekker advice.
dutch person here. you can't use lekker like aladeen! its more like where you can use it in a lot of instances but its not a word you just throw around
@@viriv But I want to just throw it around. It's more aladeen that way.
Thomas, I would LOVE to see you review the TTCxSkylar switches from Helix. I think they're pretty unique clicky switches compared to most modern ones. Great video as usual my man.
Tell me more
Aren't they just MX-type? Oo
@@Chyrosran22 Yes, sir! I watched a few reviews about them (reviews are very few and far between) and I was so curious I immediately ordered a set.
@@Chyrosran22 just in case, here ya go!
www.helix.site/products/skylar
@@Lemminjoose Eh, I'm not really interested in MX-type switches to be honest. They've saturated the market completely and when it comes down to it all its clones are so similar that it's kinda useless to try and distinguish them. The MX design is also not particularly good at anything, in my opinion (bad linears, no tactility, and terrible clicky sound).
I've used razer optical switches and I found that mint linears that use uhmwpe stems are just as smooth. I think you should give them a look
I followed your instructions for conversion to imperial units and that came out at um, you know, like... geheh, um, yeah hahaha.
thanks for the review, the features seem great!
I'm a big fan of the keycaps haha but i think they'd look even better with a white plate vs this bluish one
speaking of hall effect... The keystone silo beam switches and its accompanied keyboard are still in production with pretty sparse updates...
9:28 Bro predicted the future
10:08 Excellent instructional video, mate 👍
I'd love to get those switches individually and put them in a high-end custom. That low-profile integrated plate design looks cheap and awful and is a turn-off for me but if I could stick it in a custom, would buy in a heartbeat.
I feel you, honestly that's why Im waiting with my money. I neither want boutique 600$ kb with colorful MX bullshit, nor real high-end, high tech switches in a flimsy board. Have cheap board with cheap MX switches and when i upgrade I GONNA UPGRADE LIKE A BOSS.
@@VishnuZutaten What are you going to upgrade to though? Doesn't seem like there's a board out there with what you're looking for, unless you're going for an alps build which is very rare for customs or you're into the vintage look enough to get an 80s keyboard.
Yeah, the design is just completely a downturn for me. It has the gamer aesthetic of 5 to 10 years ago. With the standard all black keycaps this looks even worse. I know a keyboard first and foremost should type good, but as someone older the optic would partially embarass me if others visit me, like im still stuck as a 18 year old gamer. I think for hall effects you would need a new pcb wouldn't you? So there would need to be a new type of custom board with pcb for you to use those switches.
Personally if they made this board with a nice chunky high top abs case in like a decent white or grey i think it would be fine. If they made a 75 or 65 version that would be awesome, wont need a custom then anymore.
Haven't watch your video in a long time and the first thing I decide to watch is another wooting review XD
Chyrosran22: I like my linears very light
Me with 110g ink blacks: 👁👄👁
110???????
Mate those aren't Gateron Ink Blacks anymore those are Gateron SUPER Ink Blacks
@@DAAI741 I know someone who uses 125g blacks as his daily driver. He just "upgraded" to 150g recently.
his poor gf
How strong are you ?
This keyboard has a lot of hollowness and reverberation when you type on it. The custom keyboard folks will definitely find a better way to implement this hall effect switches in the metal frame keyboards soon.
Based upon the translation in greek they went with the 'tasty' meaning, further reinforced with the 'vanilla-banana-pistachio' colorscheme.
How is that in any way tasty? XD
Desserts.
@@Chyrosran22 ain't ice-cream tasty? Especially if the thermometer goes little too high...
I really like the color scheme of the Lekker eddition, actually. And it's without doubt the best keyboard I have used.
look at this perfection
I have the original Wooting. The DKS is great, I use it in RTS games to reinforce. I press once, but I do actually reinforce 4 times. Instead of pressing 4 times the same key, I press it once and the DKS does it for me. Also I remapped a few keys to actually execute the same function. For example, on a tank the smoke is F, on another vehicle the same ability is E, so I programmed the DKS to do sequentially F and E, so I don't have to remember all the shortcuts. It's really cool that you can also disable some keys completely. I do personally highlight the keys I use for that particular game, and I do reprogram the nearby keys, so if I press T (retreat) and Y, I actually retreat. It's helpful, because it's easy to miss a key when you are focused on the gameplay. The typing experience imho on the original Wooting is not the best in class, but it's better than any keyboard using Cherry MX switches. But for gaming the keyboard is great, and the software is very good and constantly updated. Forget instead to use it as a controller. I tried with GTA and you can't drive. Very poor experience. For me the killer feature is the DKS, it's simply great.
Ok, i have question, is the pcb what allows the key switches to be customized in the program, or is it just the switches being changed without the pcb
you should be a voice actor for the postal dude
10:48 I was waiting for this! :)
Wow, they made quite an effort with the switches.
btw, QMK must be a breath of fresh air for you)
I wonder how well this would work with the Steam Deck? Clip at 10:07 is from Idiocracy, which is awesome!
Steam Deck is your average PC software wise..
lmao the Idiocracy clip.
I love your content man!
Hall effect and normal switches are my favorite. I don't like optical because it relies too much on pcb. Probably in ease to mod/fix is: normal, hall, optical
10:50 You know what will happen when Chyros taking a big tug of air :)
Ayy, Blur! I remember that game, good stuff. Never woulda guessed I'd see it mentioned here.
Looks like a pretty good upgrade over the old Wootings. $240 though... the pricing on these newfangled ultra-smooth boards is a _bit_ silly, gotta say.
Research and development cost money and human resources, so if the board has top tier switches, and user-friendly software, I'd say it's a board that is worth its high price.
@@0name933 It is certainly a good board, however for me, the extra smoothness of a contactless switch compared to a good linear MX type (Gateron, cream, ink, etc) isn't worth the price hike, MX linears can be made pretty darn smooth. I'd personally rather just buy a Leopold and mod it, maybe put the savings towards a nice set of MT3 or SA caps.
@@crazycanadian7223 But the Wooting doesn't just claim to have ultra smooth switches, it's also the analogue function of it that adds to the price.
@@crazycanadian7223 you buy the keyboard for the unique software, if it didn't have its features it wouldn't sell
@@yiepie9822 Yes, the unique software that turns my keyboard into a crappy substitute joystick that doesn't even work half the time. Definitely a feature that I need and totally worth $240!
I have a gamepad for a reason.
Out of the four keyboards shown in the video which one has the best sound (the sound that you prefer)?
Mine is this
wow DKS could be really nice, for shortcuts on softwares or something (or even typing but that would be a bit weird I think)
I have one of these and I like it a lot. It's very useful for me that they have a version of the control software for Linux. I hope that they take up the Input Club beam spring switch attempt and get Gateron make a beam spring variant of the hot swappable switches. I think this would work very well with the dual actuation, since you could set one keypress before the click and a second one after.
note: only $200 for the lekker edition, standard edition is cheaper
edit: just checked, its $175-195 depending on which keycaps you choose or the lack thereof
I wanted this keyboard as soon as it came out, now I want it much more. Why the fuck am I so poor.
Really läckert! (yes, basically same word in Swedish)
I had a thought while watching this: Would it work/is it possible to have the highest actuation point(so I think 3.6mm for Lekker, 4.0 for the Two HE) be caps for each letter? Like if you press lightly, you get the non caps version, and then just disable the caps lock entirely? Seems like a lot of extra work, honestly, to avoid hitting caps, but I'm more wondering if that's doable. I don't have a wooting keyboard yet(batch one HE) so wouldn't know. I do like the idea of maxing out the actuation of caps though to avoid accidental hits! I'm just curious if having the farthest point on a key press be the caps for the key, if that would work well or poorly for typing in general. lol.
As soon as you mentioned the midi stuff I wanted it
This video inspired me to spend the last 3 hours swapping Cherry MX switches on an old keyboard. Thanks, I hate it.
baie lekker video my bru.
That's it, I'm buying it.
Ah crap, I haven't noticed it's using a floating key design. What a pity...
love your reviews mate. have you done any reviews on the Filco?
Switch lovers board. Aka the best type of board.
I personally am waiting for a hall effect tkl keyboard that has better keycap compatibility because I have a set that I would like to use, but the Apex Pro TKL has those weird bulbs on the switches for the LED's making them incompatible, so I guess I will have to wait for the Lekker TKL, whenever that comes along.
Wow, you've sold me on analogue fer sure
7:05 STOP FUCKING UP MY GAMING MUSCLE MEMORY
But you're actually wrong thomas, CTRL is for fire and spacebar is for opening doors!
Only because Wolf3D didn't have jump :p .
Pssh, everyone knows the best esports gaming keyboard is his IBM 4978 beamspring keyboard with the solenoid on. (jk!) Great Review! This was a very interesting video. While $240 for the Lekker Edition is a bit of a stretch. They are accepting pre-orders for the HE version for $184. Still up there in price, but a more accepting price. I kind of like the quirky colors even if the light bleed is a bit...weird.
I also agree with you that I don't understand the point of lubing switches. I mean unless you like to make your keyboard sound like you're fapping every time you hit the space bar.
People lube the switch to make it overall smoother and to improve the acoustic. If the switch sounds like smacking meat. You've probably overlubed it.
@@slimsam3447 Well that makes sense. Although, I just wanted to make a joke about overlubed keyboards sounding like they're yanking the chain lol.
If you were to compare them against lets just say smoothest mx style linears like c3 tangerines. Which one would be smoother
Now if that keyboard had some kind of system to set the travel distance of the keys (not the actuation but actual travel distance from top to bottom) it would be close to perfect :3
You pronounce lekker, really good. Are you from the Netherlands.
I love the caps. And I like that it has detachable USB-C cable:) I have the steelseries thanks to you and I love it, I suppose this is even better:)
i heard my game mentioned ^_^
huh?
The effect you have on my hol is lekker :D
this makes me want to ditch my custom keyboard...
Why not just have both?
Damn this keyboard looks really good for rhythm games
I don't like that these would actually interfere with cherry keycaps. Is it so hard to do this south facing
How come they interfere with cherry keycaps? Because of the north facing led? I know for standard switch designs these rules apply not sure though about this design
I think Chyrosran should make a top 10 smoothest keyboard switches and a top 10 scratchiest keyboard switches.
MINTY KEYCAPS. MINTY SWITCHES. MINTY CAT APPROVES
Chriosran22: "...HHH-HIDEOUS!"
public: "... bless ya!" (all at once) ^_^
The original Wooting is definitely not indescructible. I know this, because I can never go more than a few months without drowning my keyboards in coffee, coke, beer, spunk or a combination of the above.
lol that movie clip
lol that was a good one in the middle nice work. cheers from the usa lol.
Dayum his voice is so deep
Mine wasn't $240. I paid $199.99 even after shipping and tax... for some reason it was a straight 200 either way. I thought it would've been $240 as well, but it wasn't :P Thanks for your review!
Mine was $199.99 as well.
You should do a review on a Zealios V2.
It is called "Lækker" in Danish :)