Mortal Shell Lore: Solomon The Scholar & The Old Prisoner | Explained

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024

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  • @_robo
    @_robo  4 роки тому +22

    Hey all, just wanted to say thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed the video!

  • @asketillus8679
    @asketillus8679 4 роки тому +32

    Love the video. One thing I’d say is maybe turn down the background noise just a touch or change it entirely. There are plenty of good eerie ambient audios you can use out there to fit these types of videos better.

  • @deepbreeze9058
    @deepbreeze9058 3 роки тому +7

    So, Solomon's Plan inscription seems to suggest that his brother consumed the gland from the earth temple, unsuccessfully guarded by Harden, and you are the earth revered born anew. Makes sense with the you being glandless bit. Seems interesting.

    • @_robo
      @_robo  3 роки тому

      Good connection!

  • @longsword114
    @longsword114 4 роки тому +14

    Thanks for posting this, Solomon is my favorite shell

    • @_robo
      @_robo  4 роки тому +4

      Me too!

  • @herbert46lovecraft72
    @herbert46lovecraft72 4 роки тому +18

    You seem to have invested a lot of time and effort into these, I sub

  • @douglasdiggins8296
    @douglasdiggins8296 4 роки тому +45

    Another interesting theory I guessed through Solomon's gameplay; his high resolve also benefits heavy use of parries. Is it possible that Solomon used the tarnished seal to cage his brother before he died?

    • @_robo
      @_robo  4 роки тому +28

      Fantastic theory! That actually didn't occur to me, but it makes sense and seems to align with the developers beta lore. The tarnished seal also has a similar runic glow to Solomon's armor, which is something we don't see anywhere else in the game.

    • @Foneio
      @Foneio 3 роки тому +4

      If Solomon chained the old prisoner, then how could the old prisoner murder him? Further evidence toward Harros I guess... I think the fact that Harros killed Solomon as he headed towards the multitude of tablets (where Harros didn't really wanna go) makes sense also.

    • @joshuakern3355
      @joshuakern3355 3 роки тому +3

      He could have mortally wounded him. This is a death sentence and makes more sense as to why he would be able to do the etching as well. Sometimes a wound could take days to kill.

    • @The_Bird_Bird_Harder
      @The_Bird_Bird_Harder 3 роки тому +4

      @@Foneio The man Harros kills does have the sort of knowledge of the future that Solomon demonstrates, and as I recall even forgives him for a crime not yet committed. And we know he didn't succeed in killing the revered.

    • @Foneio
      @Foneio 3 роки тому

      @@The_Bird_Bird_Harder yep exactly my thoughts. Haven't thought about this since I made that comment months ago but it makes a lot of sense to me now haha.

  • @YeOldeMachine
    @YeOldeMachine 4 роки тому +16

    I loved all the optional dialogue you can get as Solomon. Very cool. I'm dying for a DLC that answers some of my questions. They did a fantastic job with atmosphere and lore. The only other game that's ever drew me into the world like Miyazaki

  • @idofx8722
    @idofx8722 3 роки тому +3

    That last piece of text explained everything. Looking back now after completing the game, one finds that Hadern is a teacher and caretaker of the foundling and his kin. Solomon, knowing the fate of his brother and himself, chose to lure his obsessed sibling out of the great library and imprison him in Hadern’s fort…home. It explains why he is found not far from the main hub. Though we can’t be sure it was the prisoner that killed him, it could have also been the ghoul (can’t remember the enemy’s actual name) given he stated they were to quick for him. Maybe he was exhausted from imprisoning his brother, or perhaps even wounded and the ghoul finished him off.

  • @masterzoroark6664
    @masterzoroark6664 4 роки тому +10

    So Solomon is from Seed of Infinity, or somewhere nearby. People of Seed of Infinity "study" the Nectar and their reveared and slowly anf happily go insane, carving ramblings on the stone tablets

  • @masterzoroark6664
    @masterzoroark6664 4 роки тому +5

    Also, assumedly the Sister that helps you through your jurney also saw Dark Father's transformation. She mentions "Heretic who drunk too deeply" which with this lore and some speculations might talk about The Old Prisoner (aka Dark Father).
    On the other hand she might be talking about the Accolyte who went mad and died due to overusing the tar to see his god.

    • @YeOldeMachine
      @YeOldeMachine 4 роки тому +3

      I think she's talking abt the Dark Father. Only because I don't think she'd describe Tiel as a heretic.

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 4 роки тому +1

      @@YeOldeMachine yeah. Dark Father is more appropriate for Heretic title, tho Tiel was a heretic for quite some time, he abandoned Seed of Infinity and joined brigands, he also had several visions of Genesa while abusing tar

    • @YeOldeMachine
      @YeOldeMachine 4 роки тому +1

      @@masterzoroark6664 yeah, I wasn't thinking abt that. I was also unclear as to when he knew Genessa. I wish I'd had dove a little more into the lore. I never really went back and read it, even though I thought it was super interesting and cool. I think i could gather that he met her after he started getting sick, and she tried to convince him to go back to his temple? Im gonna look back on all that.

    • @YeOldeMachine
      @YeOldeMachine 4 роки тому

      Because it seemed as if she didn't know where or how he died? Further confusing me

  • @sikevillain
    @sikevillain 4 роки тому +12

    Ive been interested in the lore of this game.. good stuff give us more of this. Hope to see Eredrim soon
    He seems like a respected royal executioner from what I read but I could be wrong..

    • @_robo
      @_robo  4 роки тому +6

      funny enough that's actually the video I'm working on currently. Hope to post it tonight after work.

  • @memetarion6191
    @memetarion6191 3 роки тому +2

    I do find it a bit interesting to know that Solomon seemed to be the only character who mentions Hadern's existence. But if it isn't canon that he does, it was still interesting to know that he would've probably been the only one who knew Hadern before the foundling

  • @pookiceleste
    @pookiceleste 3 роки тому +2

    I do like the music that you added, especially the Earthbound theme in the end. Thanks for the lore!

  • @Kalesttam
    @Kalesttam 4 роки тому +8

    Great video! Would love more on the other characters

  • @Aoshi312
    @Aoshi312 4 роки тому +6

    This was an excellent video! I hope you get lots of followers and get tons of views so you’re encouraged to keep going.

  • @Nightmareblader
    @Nightmareblader 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks for this video. I guess we could assume that what the old prisoner believed was true nektar was actually tainted nektar and perhaps explains why he looks like the unborn/foundling. Tainted nektar removes you from your shell in game.

  • @AmrAlchalati
    @AmrAlchalati 3 роки тому

    Thanks for putting all these amazing videos together. They all add depth to the game lore.

  • @elysium6916
    @elysium6916 4 роки тому +1

    this is a great video i really enjoyed the info/lore you've broken down. please continue!

  • @apputaiparambil
    @apputaiparambil 4 роки тому +3

    Best shell of the game in my opinion

  • @infraredghostinthesmoke6998
    @infraredghostinthesmoke6998 3 роки тому

    I love his brothers response when they first meet face to face.

  • @Phoenix2772
    @Phoenix2772 4 роки тому +3

    Loved the video, hated the music.. especially for the dialogue, use the one when you ascend their abilities better it really fits Solomons' dialogues.

  • @KingThor128
    @KingThor128 2 роки тому

    Really love Solomons dialogue, he sounds very Nemoy Spock-like. Great video. Great game.

  • @jesus3squivel479
    @jesus3squivel479 2 роки тому

    Look brother i'm ascending lmao

  • @gluefood781
    @gluefood781 3 роки тому +1

    Great video thanks I just started this game and I was wondering about who tf he was I seen most of these diologs but I didn’t get it you explained it perfectly

  • @Foneio
    @Foneio 3 роки тому +2

    You could be the Vaati of mortal shell

  • @LordEmperorBoss
    @LordEmperorBoss Рік тому

    I wonder if the etches are remnants from past cycles. The same story playing out over and over again. Yet slightly different each time.
    Would that explain Solomon’s contradictions?
    He’s not seeing the future. He’s seeing the preceding cycles.

  • @AMubher
    @AMubher 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, but the music is very distracting.

  • @lollol-ud3pu
    @lollol-ud3pu 2 роки тому

    Bro where do you get your music from like the other videos about Harros eredim and tier

  • @WalterGirao
    @WalterGirao 4 роки тому +2

    Good video. Keep on it!
    But lose the music, please... Or use something more appropriate. Thanks!

  • @danielveralazo2731
    @danielveralazo2731 4 роки тому +2

    I always thought that Solomon was murdered by Harros,but I was wrong.

    • @_robo
      @_robo  4 роки тому +4

      I think that's a valid theory too, I wanted leave that to discuss in Harros' video. I also think my theory makes more thematic sense when focusing solely on solomon

    • @philt.8097
      @philt.8097 4 роки тому +5

      I also was pretty sure it was harros that killed Solomon. In Harros’ memories he speaks about a scholar babbling and not making sense to him at first but it ended up all that he said was true, referring to who I thought was Solomon. Which would also explain how they are linked by death because they are both shells of the foundling.

  • @iustitiamerchantxiv5872
    @iustitiamerchantxiv5872 4 роки тому +8

    I keep on getting distracted by the BGM it just feels so out of place. Nice try for creating this video though.

    • @_robo
      @_robo  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the feedback, I'm just trying to compile this in a way that's not just me reading text lol

    • @countingtelescopes
      @countingtelescopes 4 роки тому +3

      @@_robo For what it is worth, I really liked the BGM and felt it fit nicely. Maybe bring the volume down on the BGM.

    • @Aoshi312
      @Aoshi312 4 роки тому +2

      goRobo I also was fine with the background music. As long as you keep making stuff. This was great and seems like it took a lot of effort. I’ve beaten the game twice in the last few days and couldn’t tel you a thing about the lore

  • @SolusDarkcoat
    @SolusDarkcoat 3 роки тому +2

    The old prisoner did not kill Solomon, that makes no sense. As far as the Dark Father's purpose goes? They're most likely referring to the fact that his hunt for glands, will guide the naive foundling in their ascension.
    Also, the choice of music for this character is atrocious.

    • @_robo
      @_robo  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your insight, furry. If you're going to be lame and negative with all your comments then go watch anything else.

    • @ambralemon
      @ambralemon 2 роки тому

      @@_robo well, this was a disgraceful reply mate

  • @TeutonGuy
    @TeutonGuy 3 місяці тому

    What music did you use?

  • @user-lh5hu8hv9x
    @user-lh5hu8hv9x 3 роки тому

    Still a good video

  • @ianpederson5962
    @ianpederson5962 3 роки тому +1

    I think Harros killed Solomon.

  • @valvenis95
    @valvenis95 3 роки тому

    Soloman kinda sounds like ultron lol

    • @okami_eddy
      @okami_eddy 2 роки тому

      I think he sounds like Agent 47

  • @diobrando6177
    @diobrando6177 Рік тому

    I dont like the background music