Absolute incredible marksmanship from all of you. 2" @1000y is "like" threading a needle from 10 yards. I learn so much from watching all of your shooting techniques, and I don't even watch the split screen for impacts. EC's trigger control is peerless and beyond top-tier.
That was terrific. Very much humbling for all the shooters, but, not embarrassing as they all know what a challenge that is. Great challenge, and happy new year to you all.
It would be really interesting to see how Mark could do on this challenge from MarkandSam AfterWork down in Australia. He has made a lot of his own gear to really fine tune how the rifle handles during recoil.
Eric, if you can either clear the junky looking old targets out from behind your targets or move your targets over where nothing is behind them, it'll make a far greater presentation of the targets on video for your viewers.
Hey Erik… here is a content idea… E target at 1000yd in challenging wind. Tactacam on your scope to reveal your actual holds. Split screen showing tactacam view on left, e-target hits on right. Shoot sighters then 20rds and narrate your thoughts and decisions real time as you center up and then lay down a demo group for score. This would give us a FPV demonstration of what it is like to shoot Fclass and fight with the wind from the shooters point of view. Not a wind reading lesson per se… just a demonstration to illustrate what it looks and feels like with narration revealing the depth of thought and decision making involved. Some of the narration might need to be added in post so that it doesn’t interfere with the performance too much. The audience generally just sees a bunch of guys laying on the ground going bing boom bang when observing Fclass and doesn’t get to witness any of the intricacies involved. Cheers!
First of all I love this type of content. Erik is killing it! When self spotting it is imperative that you keep the rifle on target through the entire shot process. Many folks are in too much of a rush to run the bolt. Following through will give you the best possible result. And, allow you to very careful measure your shot then correct.
@@bpittman74 so a 'shooting school' did not teach reloading did they teach about standard deviation, chrono every shot .. to me sounds like a driving school with no gas pedal
@ I’ve been reloading close to 25 yrs. Yes he taught SD, truing ballistic coefficient, proper technique to see where shot hit, how to properly read mirage, rain and has developed probably the best ballistics app there is. He was a 26yr snipe, top of class in both sniper school and special forces sniper school, master instructor and was the shooting instructor for Gunter’s before he moved to AL. I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing!
And a driving school with no gas pedal is all these guys shooting long distance, and I’ve yet to see one with a level on their scope!! I guess they are so good they can see 1 degree of cant with the naked eye. SMH
Unfortunately the 308 with the 168 SMK has been studied immensely and is in Bryan Litz’s book… The bullet design goes completely unstable at transonic… Not a 1k choice… With the 12 twist look into the Berger 168 hybrids… check the stability formula to make sure they are good… This is a cool video! I like the team formula!!! I would love to see more of these videos!
Agree 100%. You can spend all the money in the world for a custom set up, but if you don’t spend the time or the money on a good shooting school then you just waisted a tone of money on a custom LR Rifle you don’t know how to shoot.
@R-dh7sc mark and sam after work predominantly shoot sfp. Doesn't seem to hold them back. I think experience, or the lack thereof, is what got him on this one. He had a couple bad calls from his spotter as well.
WOW!!!!! You've really jumped up the challenge for REAL!!!! That's REALLY HARD!!! Great work going for it. Oh, and the last shot hit the very top of the support leg on the right side.
Came here to say this same thing. A little brush clearing and get rid of all that dead fallen stuff. Or at least drag it all to the side, out of camera shot. Might be time to replace the plywood on that target stand, too.
168 SMK is famous for being unstable when transonic. Lots of bullets will tolerate it though. There are plenty of factory offerings in 308 that would work at 1k if that guy doesn't want to handload.
Spotting from my arm chair, i could call the wild misses in the first half of the trace before it got there. Wind at target was from 2-6mph. Wind was realy ripping for the first 600yrds, tricky tricky!
Man, brings a whole nuther level to the KYL Challenge. Outstanding effort, can't wait for the redemption video. Happy New Years gents, stay safe this evening.
I think your elevation calls are slightly off. Given that there's a small distance behind the targets to the berm, if you were to hit the target but follow the bullet's trajectory, it would impact lower on the berm. So if you're missing and your impact on the berm is, as the LASER flies, at exactly the same height as the target, you're shooting high.
Cool video, that’s a brutal challenge, I think a bigger (or better in the 308 case) would help. Little guys just can’t hold that 2” horizontal. Something like a 6.5 prc would help a lot I think. Also a Berm and switch to chain hung targets instead of straps would help for spotting.
That was the toughest one yet,but fair play,you guys were getting oh so close even with that wind. You could see by the dirt impacts the wind was making the bullets crazy 😅
I love shooting at distant targets, but I don't have one of those custom rifles. I shoot an old .340 Weatherby Mark V rifle, and it shoots amazingly well. I think I could compete pretty well against the rifles in this video, especially on a windy day like that, but then I have never fired twelve rounds in two minutes through the barrel. That would sure create a lot of heat in the smaller diameter barrel of my hunting rifle. I am an old man now and have been shooting long range in the local mountains for many years. I get a kick out of all the young shooters with their fancy high-dollar rifles. Old age is funny that way...
Okay, in my opinion, yall did really well with this challenge with the exception of the wind . The wind was wwaaayyyy to squearly . It was blowing yall's shots all over the place. It would be nice to see Y'all shoot that challenge again without as much wind, and I know it's hard to do, but a 5-10 mile an hour wind would have been way better than what yall had . I live in central Texas myself it's not to offend we don't have some wind . The wind Y'all were shooting in makes it really hard to hit a 2in target. Even if you are shooting 1 hole groups at 100yrds at 1000yrds, your groups would be the size of the 2in target or close to it . Maybe you should leave the 2in target out of the challenge and just shoot 12,10,8,6,4-inch targets and if you're able to run it no problem let the 2in target be the bounis or tie breaker. Great job, guys. God bless you and your family.God bless america 🇺🇸🇨🇱 🇺🇲🇨🇱🇺🇲🇨🇱🇺🇲🇨🇱.
Anticipation was high, my heart dropped with every miss at the 2"! What a hard shot, honestly just playing the odds of the cone of fire at that point...
I noticed at 1000 yards you guys are scattered every where that's still impressive. You should try 900 yards and see what kind of groupings you get. It might be the wind. I love watching your videos and learn alot from you Erik keep up the awsome videos
I think time calls would be very beneficial to the shooter. Seemed like as the barrels heated and groups opened up, you guys were chasing impacts. 2" is an extremely difficult target at a thousand and there is definitely an element of luck to hit it... of course you need skill to even get in the neighborhood of luck.
That 2" made this face through the entire range session Eric! 😝 ( Edit: this should be a sticker for the 2") Some of the trace looked like the rounds went around the target!😂😂
I’ve been impressed with it and with the velocity I was able to achieve, I don’t have any experience with a 7-08 but I imagine it’s pretty close to the same. I just had a bunch of 6.5 creed brass from my old PRS rifle so for me it made more sense to neck that up vs buying 7-08 brass.
I agree, his limiting factor is running the factory ammo. The cone of fire looked to be about 18" to me which is bigger than even the large plate they were shooting at. He was basically was chasing impacts and moving the whole cone of fire around. Very hard to hit targets that way.
When I was going at those distances with 308 I was running 175s and 178s in the 2850-2900 range. At the elevation in TX those would still be really close to trans at that range.
Pretty cool Erik, thanks now i gotta go move my target out to 1000😜. What you were talking about is exactly why i run second focal plane scopes. I understand your thinking about MIL relation but for me i cant see the reticle to mil at lower power anyway with 1st focal. I think my MOAR T is .1 moa on 25x. Seems like the F1 AT 25X was .125 or .15 moa. Pretty thick for fine shooting. You guys were getting really close though👍
Erik you should try making your 6x47 L brass from 6XC cases so you can run large primers. I tested the heck out of both small and large primers for 6x47L and found my velocity spreads were way lower and more consistent with large primers especially over a wide temperature range. In cold winter weather the small primers were awful. Large primers were great at all temperatures. You have nothing to lose by testing and I am certain you will be surprised by the results.
I shot 6x47 for years in all temp ranges from Texas summers to Nebraska winters for PRS. Always used CCI450s and never had any of the issues you speak of.
@@ErikCortina Its not about the brass quality, its about enough ignition with large primers to ignite 38 grains of powder. I went through this with Tubbs and Obermyer in detail as well as Dan Dowling. Tubbs used LRPs for 6XC for a reason and I found LRPs worker better for 6x47L and you can even test this using range pickup brass for free with 22-250. LRPs are way better and more consistent over a wide temperature range.
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy 450s have done fine with 6GT and 6.5CM. My SDs shrunk went I went to 6.5CM SRP brass. New barrel for 6GT and my SDs are around 3-4fps and managed a .19MOA group doing seating depth testing which happened to be in a pretty good node.
Mitch seemed to be the winner to me. Experience makes all the difference the 308 is plenty capable but he had a really rough time, was over shooting just about the entire time.
Happy new year to all the team and Erik mate at 1,000 yards thats insane, especially when you have hi winds, maybe you can do a military style moving target at say 400 yards, at say normal sts mini target and have it moving from left to right or right to left at various distances. cheers Erik thank you for a new upload as well. 🦘🦘👍👍 Its a shame the spotting scope lens are not used in scopes with a good mil dot reticles on them, so then you can get a better view at longer distances. cheers and all the best for the new year mate.🦘🦘👍👍
Man... that was impressive. I finally got a look at a 1,000 yard range, near Eagle Lake, TX, a few weeks ago and I can't imagine hitting .15-ish MOA at 1,000 yards. I've had groups in that range at 100 but not many. A typical good day for me, at 100 yards, is .25 - .5 MOA and most days aren't typical lol. That's like 3" to 6" at 1,000 yards, actually it's probably more because a lot can happen between 100 and a thousand even if the wind is low. This video is a great example of how difficult long range shooting really is.
@@RungunBisnus Yup. my son shoots out there and has for a few years. He shoots a lot of matches here in TX. He shot this years Kalashbash. I went out for Lethal Weapons Texas and KBTX this year but just a spectator. I joined a few weeks ago. 9-Hole was on one of the ranges when I was getting my orientation. We were out there with some friends yesterday on Range 1. I think 9 Hole Reviews was shooting yesterday but I didn't see them. One of our group was getting the tour and he mentioned someone shooting video. I've got at least 2 weeks of over thinking to do before I try get checked out on 1,000 yards. The range I normally shoot at is south of El Campo. Pistol and 25-50-100-200-300 rifle.
@@RungunBisnus It's a heck of a range. What I like about it is you reserve a specific range (3 hour block of time) and it's yours. Guests are ok but it's an extra charge and they are your guest not some random person. There are a ton of other amenities. Range 1, the range we shot at yesterday, is a 360 degree range. Ie, if it's just you or everyone is shooting together from the center there's a full 360 degree field of fire. Obviously that only works if all shooters are in the same area. Or you can go to one end and shoot steel at 140 yards. There are ranges with trees. Some ranges have a building that classes can be taught in (and are). My son shot a match in Austin last weekend. I don't know which one or where. The range I shoot at in El Campo is 45m away. The Ranch is 30-ish minutes away from me.
Maybe the next time the wind won't be so switchey. Even then the challenge would be exceptional. Just a few years ago 1k shooting was done on 14 to 20 inch square targets. Now 10" to 2".
Uh, impossible. Game over. Shooting under 1moa at that range is challenging. Hitting a large target at that distance is feat. This is great! Will watch with baited breath.
Waaaaaay out there. That is a challenge! I see these 6mm BR, 7mm Claymore...I have not heard of them. Are those cartridges designed or made for the types of competitions EC and the Team compete in? The .308 fellow, i was trying to figure what was happening with the random odd shot placement. What spotting scope and video camera combination is that for such clarity?
Hi Eric if you look for more challenges in future I’d love to see one where you get the professional guys like your self as a charity challenge where it’s handicapped bad for you guys so build a unknown rifle or basic rifle at the range then shoot unknown ammo at X yards and every hit will be cash towards the charity of your choice or the shooters choice
If you zoom in and watch the time of impact on the last shot of the video. You hit the right leg of the frame, but you are correct it was an impact😅 far be it from me to criticize. Great shooting guys!!
Well that was fun, a waste of ammo but fun nonetheless 😀. You all came very very close to nailing those small targets that probably look like little tiny specs many times.
I wonder why those shooting the .308 don’t use - 1:10 twist or 1:9 - 200 gr match bullets to buck the wind - heavier chassis Maybe it’s just me that has Ben shooting the .308 since 1994 and knows that you can shoot light / fast….but wind deflection is big / or shoot slow and heavy and it’s dead on, regardless of caliber. 230 grain bullets in the .300 Win Mag buck the wind very well. 200-220 grain bullets in the .308 do the same. 140 grain A-tips in the 6.5x47 work realy good Just my opinion though. This is a tough challenge and looks fun
Chasing the ghost. I bet if only one would have held the same point of aim when they were so close just missing it one would have hit. I doubt any of that ammo is zero on top of one another accuracy. Great video. I do know a bit about chasing the ghost.
@@ErikCortina It's such a small target and wind. I do think it can be done by all the ones that just missed though. Maybe on another day. Thanks for commenting back.
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Absolute incredible marksmanship from all of you. 2" @1000y is "like" threading a needle from 10 yards. I learn so much from watching all of your shooting techniques, and I don't even watch the split screen for impacts. EC's trigger control is peerless and beyond top-tier.
Appreciate the kind words.
That was terrific. Very much humbling for all the shooters, but, not embarrassing as they all know what a challenge that is. Great challenge, and happy new year to you all.
Happy New Year! It is a tough shot!
you got to do this again this was fun to watch
It would be really interesting to see how Mark could do on this challenge from MarkandSam AfterWork down in Australia. He has made a lot of his own gear to really fine tune how the rifle handles during recoil.
Eric, if you can either clear the junky looking old targets out from behind your targets or move your targets over where nothing is behind them, it'll make a far greater presentation of the targets on video for your viewers.
Hey Erik… here is a content idea…
E target at 1000yd in challenging wind. Tactacam on your scope to reveal your actual holds. Split screen showing tactacam view on left, e-target hits on right.
Shoot sighters then 20rds and narrate your thoughts and decisions real time as you center up and then lay down a demo group for score.
This would give us a FPV demonstration of what it is like to shoot Fclass and fight with the wind from the shooters point of view.
Not a wind reading lesson per se… just a demonstration to illustrate what it looks and feels like with narration revealing the depth of thought and decision making involved. Some of the narration might need to be added in post so that it doesn’t interfere with the performance too much.
The audience generally just sees a bunch of guys laying on the ground going bing boom bang when observing Fclass and doesn’t get to witness any of the intricacies involved.
Cheers!
I like this idea.
Beautiful! That's why it's called a challenge. Very cool!
First of all I love this type of content. Erik is killing it!
When self spotting it is imperative that you keep the rifle on target through the entire shot process. Many folks are in too much of a rush to run the bolt. Following through will give you the best possible result. And, allow you to very careful measure your shot then correct.
I can't imagine trying to shoot 1000 with factory ammo
@@guitarplayer1434At Barbour Creek Shooting School, you shoot at a golf ball at 1000y with factory Hornady match ammo. A
@@bpittman74 so a 'shooting school' did not teach reloading did they teach about standard deviation, chrono every shot .. to me sounds like a driving school with no gas pedal
@ I’ve been reloading close to 25 yrs. Yes he taught SD, truing ballistic coefficient, proper technique to see where shot hit, how to properly read mirage, rain and has developed probably the best ballistics app there is. He was a 26yr snipe, top of class in both sniper school and special forces sniper school, master instructor and was the shooting instructor for Gunter’s before he moved to AL. I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing!
And a driving school with no gas pedal is all these guys shooting long distance, and I’ve yet to see one with a level on their scope!! I guess they are so good they can see 1 degree of cant with the naked eye. SMH
That wind was crazy! Good shootin fellas
“Bro.. on the KYL..” hahaha
🙈😂
The disappointment in Eric’s voice for this guy😂
I'd say more frustration than disappointment! @@kims2r
Unfortunately the 308 with the 168 SMK has been studied immensely and is in Bryan Litz’s book…
The bullet design goes completely unstable at transonic… Not a 1k choice… With the 12 twist look into the Berger 168 hybrids… check the stability formula to make sure they are good…
This is a cool video! I like the team formula!!!
I would love to see more of these videos!
Agree 100%. You can spend all the money in the world for a custom set up, but if you don’t spend the time or the money on a good shooting school then you just waisted a tone of money on a custom LR Rifle you don’t know how to shoot.
I think the burgers hold stability better at transonic
As soon as the .308 guy said '2nd focal plane' I knew there would be trouble.
@R-dh7sc mark and sam after work predominantly shoot sfp. Doesn't seem to hold them back. I think experience, or the lack thereof, is what got him on this one. He had a couple bad calls from his spotter as well.
@SixOFord agreed - nothing wrong with SFP in and of itself. However, his lack of experience, twinned with the SFP made that far more difficult.
not sure why a second focal plane scope will be an issue
What a challenge! Definitely love to see this completed successfully. Happy New Year to you and the team, Erik 🎊
Happy new year!
WOW!!!!! You've really jumped up the challenge for REAL!!!! That's REALLY HARD!!! Great work going for it. Oh, and the last shot hit the very top of the support leg on the right side.
Still king of the UA-cam challenges. I think you hit the post holding the IPSC in behind the KYL.
That’s fun to watch.
Thank you, John.
When is John going to have a go?
I agree. I was on the edge of my seat at the 2" target lol
To much junk behind the targets absorbed the splash on a bunch of those no calls. Great video!
Came here to say this same thing. A little brush clearing and get rid of all that dead fallen stuff. Or at least drag it all to the side, out of camera shot.
Might be time to replace the plywood on that target stand, too.
Yeah. That plywood has had it.
Great content Erik very impressed with 7mm creedmoor for not spanking those 180 out the barrel
The impact at the end was on the right upright post - in line with the bottom edge of the 2" target but not on the target unfortunately.
Enjoyed watching. Definitely a tough challenge. Happy New Year.
Fun to see Erik get excited for the others
Looked like the .308 was going transonic at that range. It wasn’t just the wind blowing it around that much. That did look to be a great deal of fun!
168 SMK is famous for being unstable when transonic. Lots of bullets will tolerate it though. There are plenty of factory offerings in 308 that would work at 1k if that guy doesn't want to handload.
That wind is humbling. Happy new year!
Spotting from my arm chair, i could call the wild misses in the first half of the trace before it got there. Wind at target was from 2-6mph.
Wind was realy ripping for the first 600yrds, tricky tricky!
The wind was tough for sure
2" at a thousand is one big wow---add that kind of wind to the mix and that's incredible to be even getting all around it.
Man, brings a whole nuther level to the KYL Challenge. Outstanding effort, can't wait for the redemption video. Happy New Years gents, stay safe this evening.
Happy New Year, stay safe and we’ll see you at the range.
HAPPY NEW YEAR Y'ALL! KEEPEM COMING!
Soooo Close! Enjoyed this one. Happy New Year Fellas!
Love the concept Will keep watching ❤
I think your elevation calls are slightly off. Given that there's a small distance behind the targets to the berm, if you were to hit the target but follow the bullet's trajectory, it would impact lower on the berm. So if you're missing and your impact on the berm is, as the LASER flies, at exactly the same height as the target, you're shooting high.
At 0.192 moa my brain can’t even except this as probable let alone possible. I’ll just call it magic.
Cool video, that’s a brutal challenge, I think a bigger (or better in the 308 case) would help. Little guys just can’t hold that 2” horizontal. Something like a 6.5 prc would help a lot I think. Also a Berm and switch to chain hung targets instead of straps would help for spotting.
If i was closer would love to try my 338 Lapua, great at bucking wind. Awesome challenge.
That was the toughest one yet,but fair play,you guys were getting oh so close even with that wind.
You could see by the dirt impacts the wind was making the bullets crazy 😅
I love shooting at distant targets, but I don't have one of those custom rifles. I shoot an old .340 Weatherby Mark V rifle, and it shoots amazingly well. I think I could compete pretty well against the rifles in this video, especially on a windy day like that, but then I have never fired twelve rounds in two minutes through the barrel. That would sure create a lot of heat in the smaller diameter barrel of my hunting rifle. I am an old man now and have been shooting long range in the local mountains for many years. I get a kick out of all the young shooters with their fancy high-dollar rifles. Old age is funny that way...
I am old too but love the improvements in the rifles, bullets and tech. Stay informed or go to the back of the line.
Okay, in my opinion, yall did really well with this challenge with the exception of the wind . The wind was wwaaayyyy to squearly . It was blowing yall's shots all over the place. It would be nice to see Y'all shoot that challenge again without as much wind, and I know it's hard to do, but a 5-10 mile an hour wind would have been way better than what yall had . I live in central Texas myself it's not to offend we don't have some wind . The wind Y'all were shooting in makes it really hard to hit a 2in target. Even if you are shooting 1 hole groups at 100yrds at 1000yrds, your groups would be the size of the 2in target or close to it . Maybe you should leave the 2in target out of the challenge and just shoot 12,10,8,6,4-inch targets and if you're able to run it no problem let the 2in target be the bounis or tie breaker. Great job, guys. God bless you and your family.God bless america 🇺🇸🇨🇱 🇺🇲🇨🇱🇺🇲🇨🇱🇺🇲🇨🇱.
It was definitely a test, that's for sure.
Anticipation was high, my heart dropped with every miss at the 2"! What a hard shot, honestly just playing the odds of the cone of fire at that point...
Great effort on a very very hard shot with that wind hell that would be tough with no wind great try guys!
Even though I had a beer on the couch, I found that stressful 😅 Really fun to watch though.
Claymoor 😄 that would have been racking up some X's on a F-Class target.
“you hit the frame” 😂😂😂😂 I find it astonishing how people go on these videos without having a clue where they are zero’d at..
Man these videos are great . The marksman here are awsome
I was leaning and squinting and doing all I could to make those hit the 2” from my couch. I like that 7 Claymoor. May be in my future.
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I noticed at 1000 yards you guys are scattered every where that's still impressive. You should try 900 yards and see what kind of groupings you get. It might be the wind. I love watching your videos and learn alot from you Erik keep up the awsome videos
Great Video Buddy
Thanks for watching!
I think time calls would be very beneficial to the shooter. Seemed like as the barrels heated and groups opened up, you guys were chasing impacts. 2" is an extremely difficult target at a thousand and there is definitely an element of luck to hit it... of course you need skill to even get in the neighborhood of luck.
Looks like a blast. I need to try that at the range.
That was a lot of fun to watch! Nice!
Thanks for the visit
Great attempts at that challenge you guys . Clay that 7 ml Claymoor intrigues me please fallow up with more !
Thanks for watching. The Claymoor is a fun cartridge
That was tough shooting, well done guys.
I love this stuff. You guys are amazing 👍👍
Thank you!
ONE THOUSAND YARDS!!!!!!! THANK YOU ERIC CORTINA THE GOAT!
Well done guys. Thats a bloody hard shot even in the most perfect conditions 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
hit the frame on the last part of vid....great shooting!
That 2" made this face through the entire range session Eric! 😝 ( Edit: this should be a sticker for the 2")
Some of the trace looked like the rounds went around the target!😂😂
I know!
This was like watching a championship match…. edge of the seat stuff.
That 7mm Claymoor is something interesting. 😉
7mm08 shooting berger 180s is my match rifle this year. it works a lot better than what i thought it would on paper.
I’ve been impressed with it and with the velocity I was able to achieve, I don’t have any experience with a 7-08 but I imagine it’s pretty close to the same. I just had a bunch of 6.5 creed brass from my old PRS rifle so for me it made more sense to neck that up vs buying 7-08 brass.
@@clayroeder4806 makes total sense. id figure they were pretty close.
Not sure but 308 guys ammo doesn’t seem consistent.
1k is pretty iffy if not loaded hot on 308. imho anway :-) transonic
I agree, his limiting factor is running the factory ammo. The cone of fire looked to be about 18" to me which is bigger than even the large plate they were shooting at. He was basically was chasing impacts and moving the whole cone of fire around. Very hard to hit targets that way.
When I was going at those distances with 308 I was running 175s and 178s in the 2850-2900 range. At the elevation in TX those would still be really close to trans at that range.
@@RecreationalSniper yeah. and 168s at that. they bleed speed after 600yd or so.
On top of that he is running a 2FP scope. At that range the reticle is bigger than half of those targets.
Pretty cool Erik, thanks now i gotta go move my target out to 1000😜. What you were talking about is exactly why i run second focal plane scopes. I understand your thinking about MIL relation but for me i cant see the reticle to mil at lower power anyway with 1st focal. I think my MOAR T is .1 moa on 25x. Seems like the F1 AT 25X was .125 or .15 moa. Pretty thick for fine shooting. You guys were getting really close though👍
Erik you should try making your 6x47 L brass from 6XC cases so you can run large primers. I tested the heck out of both small and large primers for 6x47L and found my velocity spreads were way lower and more consistent with large primers especially over a wide temperature range. In cold winter weather the small primers were awful. Large primers were great at all temperatures. You have nothing to lose by testing and I am certain you will be surprised by the results.
I have tons of time to lose by testing and making brass. lol
Lapua SP brass is hard to beat.
I shot 6x47 for years in all temp ranges from Texas summers to Nebraska winters for PRS. Always used CCI450s and never had any of the issues you speak of.
@@ErikCortina Its not about the brass quality, its about enough ignition with large primers to ignite 38 grains of powder. I went through this with Tubbs and Obermyer in detail as well as Dan Dowling. Tubbs used LRPs for 6XC for a reason and I found LRPs worker better for 6x47L and you can even test this using range pickup brass for free with 22-250. LRPs are way better and more consistent over a wide temperature range.
@PracticalTacticalAccuracy 450s have done fine with 6GT and 6.5CM. My SDs shrunk went I went to 6.5CM SRP brass. New barrel for 6GT and my SDs are around 3-4fps and managed a .19MOA group doing seating depth testing which happened to be in a pretty good node.
Plus large primers are so easy to find. NOT!
Hi Eric, Can we do a challenge that has a light colored backup board so we can see corrections and call changes?
Happy New Year! Great video. Looking forward to another year of informative and entertaining content. Are you still base drilling your bullets. 😂
Great video sir. Happy new year!
Happy new year!
Mitch seemed to be the winner to me. Experience makes all the difference the 308 is plenty capable but he had a really rough time, was over shooting just about the entire time.
I for one would have been just lucky to hit the 12". Three of you hit the 4". Amazing shooting.
This was great! You should add this to your fan challenge.
Happy new year to all the team and Erik mate at 1,000 yards thats insane, especially when you have hi winds, maybe you can do a military style moving target at say 400 yards, at say normal sts mini target and have it moving from left to right or right to left at various distances. cheers Erik thank you for a new upload as well. 🦘🦘👍👍
Its a shame the spotting scope lens are not used in scopes with a good mil dot reticles on them, so then you can get a better view at longer distances. cheers and all the best for the new year mate.🦘🦘👍👍
Man... that was impressive. I finally got a look at a 1,000 yard range, near Eagle Lake, TX, a few weeks ago and I can't imagine hitting .15-ish MOA at 1,000 yards. I've had groups in that range at 100 but not many. A typical good day for me, at 100 yards, is .25 - .5 MOA and most days aren't typical lol. That's like 3" to 6" at 1,000 yards, actually it's probably more because a lot can happen between 100 and a thousand even if the wind is low. This video is a great example of how difficult long range shooting really is.
The Ranch? I think it's called. That's where 9-hole Reviews shoots. Its in that area.
@@RungunBisnus Yup. my son shoots out there and has for a few years. He shoots a lot of matches here in TX. He shot this years Kalashbash. I went out for Lethal Weapons Texas and KBTX this year but just a spectator. I joined a few weeks ago. 9-Hole was on one of the ranges when I was getting my orientation. We were out there with some friends yesterday on Range 1. I think 9 Hole Reviews was shooting yesterday but I didn't see them. One of our group was getting the tour and he mentioned someone shooting video. I've got at least 2 weeks of over thinking to do before I try get checked out on 1,000 yards. The range I normally shoot at is south of El Campo. Pistol and 25-50-100-200-300 rifle.
@@MichaelLloyd I'm in Austin, closet range is about an hour away. The ranch is about 2 hours away. I should get a membership there.
@@RungunBisnus It's a heck of a range. What I like about it is you reserve a specific range (3 hour block of time) and it's yours. Guests are ok but it's an extra charge and they are your guest not some random person. There are a ton of other amenities. Range 1, the range we shot at yesterday, is a 360 degree range. Ie, if it's just you or everyone is shooting together from the center there's a full 360 degree field of fire. Obviously that only works if all shooters are in the same area. Or you can go to one end and shoot steel at 140 yards. There are ranges with trees. Some ranges have a building that classes can be taught in (and are). My son shot a match in Austin last weekend. I don't know which one or where.
The range I shoot at in El Campo is 45m away. The Ranch is 30-ish minutes away from me.
Yeah, 1,000 yards is a whole different ball game!
At 7:53 and on wards you can hear a heart beat very clearly...
Happy new Year everyone. Ps, Blue ACC for the win!
Happy new year.
Some challenge my friend, I was watching those traces going in, I couldn't breath.😅😂
Eric what is it you use to hold your steel on??
That was amazing I could not see bullet trail but on my big monitor the splashes were all around it. I can’t imagine how small that looks at 1000 yds.
The bullet trace is there, but it goes up really high. You could see it better on my 6 x 47 because it’s flatter
Happy new year to you fellas
I’d love to do this challenge this looks super fun!!
Maybe the next time the wind won't be so switchey. Even then the challenge would be exceptional. Just a few years ago 1k shooting was done on 14 to 20 inch square targets. Now 10" to 2".
I really wished there was a back drop behind the KYL to see how close some of those shots were!
Backdrop would prevent us from seeing splash on berm though. 🤷♂️
A lot of those shots would have been headshots at a thousand yards i am amazed at your accuracy, all of you cheers from Australia
Thank you for the kind words and cheers!
Nice to see you try it at 1000, such a hard challenge
Uh, impossible. Game over. Shooting under 1moa at that range is challenging. Hitting a large target at that distance is feat.
This is great! Will watch with baited breath.
Waaaaaay out there. That is a challenge! I see these 6mm BR, 7mm Claymore...I have not heard of them. Are those cartridges designed or made for the types of competitions EC and the Team compete in? The .308 fellow, i was trying to figure what was happening with the random odd shot placement.
What spotting scope and video camera combination is that for such clarity?
Happy New Year, Erik
Happy New Year!
That was so much fun and educational. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Eric if you look for more challenges in future I’d love to see one where you get the professional guys like your self as a charity challenge where it’s handicapped bad for you guys so build a unknown rifle or basic rifle at the range then shoot unknown ammo at X yards and every hit will be cash towards the charity of your choice or the shooters choice
Dang, that was frustrating to watch and I wasn't even shooting. 🙂
Enjoyed it though, thanks, Erik.
...and Happy New Year.
Happy new year.
Happy New Year 🎉
Where can I get one of those chamber flags? Didn't see them on the website. Is that a secret squirrel item?
it would be interesting to have paper behind the 2x to see where all the bullets are going and how close they are to being on target ?
sooooo close. great shooting guys. That 2" little guy is a tough shot.
Do you think maybe the black straps holding the targets are responsible for the no calls
It’s possible. If the bullet hits behind them, especially the large one, it blocks the view.
If you zoom in and watch the time of impact on the last shot of the video. You hit the right leg of the frame, but you are correct it was an impact😅 far be it from me to criticize. Great shooting guys!!
Those bat actions are superb
Good shooting 🔥🔥🔥 might try it myself out in the desert see if i can do it 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Good luck! You’ll need it. 😁
That's really a tough challenge. You're going to need some marines with open sights to pull that one off.
😂
Eric puts out great and interesting videos. I can't help thinking of the striking resemblance of Eric and Sadam Hussain.
What? 😂
This is a serious challenge!
This challenge was exciting.
Well that was fun, a waste of ammo but fun nonetheless 😀. You all came very very close to nailing those small targets that probably look like little tiny specs many times.
That was fun to watch.
Just like a scramble. Late in the round, 10 beers in. “Someone put a 7 iron drive in play and I’ll try to drive 320” lol.
😂
I wonder why those shooting the .308 don’t use
- 1:10 twist or 1:9
- 200 gr match bullets to buck the wind
- heavier chassis
Maybe it’s just me that has Ben shooting the .308 since 1994 and knows that you can shoot light / fast….but wind deflection is big / or shoot slow and heavy and it’s dead on, regardless of caliber.
230 grain bullets in the .300 Win Mag buck the wind very well.
200-220 grain bullets in the .308 do the same.
140 grain A-tips in the 6.5x47 work realy good
Just my opinion though. This is a tough challenge and looks fun
Mitch wasn't ready either.
You mean the one that hit three targets? 😂
Chasing the ghost. I bet if only one would have held the same point of aim when they were so close just missing it one would have hit. I doubt any of that ammo is zero on top of one another accuracy. Great video. I do know a bit about chasing the ghost.
I held same spot for many shots. Still no luck.
@@ErikCortina It's such a small target and wind. I do think it can be done by all the ones that just missed though. Maybe on another day. Thanks for commenting back.