Why Can't INDIA Run High Speed Trains on Old Tracks , Like FRANCE || फ्रांस करलेगा भारत नहीं
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- India faces several challenges in running high-speed trains on old ballast tracks, unlike countries such as France. The primary issue lies in the quality and design of these tracks. Old ballast tracks, laid on a bed of crushed stones, are suitable for conventional trains but not ideal for the high precision required by high-speed trains. High-speed rail requires tracks with minimal curves and gradients to maintain stability and safety at elevated speeds, which many of India's existing tracks lack. Additionally, ballast tracks demand frequent and intensive maintenance to handle the wear and tear caused by high-speed operations. This increased need for maintenance makes it challenging to sustain high-speed services on these tracks, as they are more susceptible to degradation under the dynamic loads of faster trains.
भारत में पुरानी बैलास्ट ट्रैकों पर हाई-स्पीड ट्रेनें चलाने में कई चुनौतियाँ हैं, जबकि फ्रांस जैसे देशों में यह संभव है। मुख्य समस्या इन ट्रैकों की गुणवत्ता और डिज़ाइन में निहित है। पुराने बैलास्ट ट्रैक, जो कुचल पत्थरों की परत पर बिछाए जाते हैं, पारंपरिक ट्रेनों के लिए उपयुक्त होते हैं, लेकिन हाई-स्पीड ट्रेनों की उच्च सटीकता की आवश्यकता को पूरा नहीं करते हैं। हाई-स्पीड रेल को न्यूनतम मोड़ और ढलान वाले ट्रैकों की आवश्यकता होती है ताकि उच्च गति पर स्थिरता और सुरक्षा बनी रहे, जो भारत की कई मौजूदा ट्रैकों में नहीं है। इसके अलावा, बैलास्ट ट्रैकों को उच्च-स्पीड ऑपरेशन के कारण होने वाले पहनने और आंसू को संभालने के लिए लगातार और गहन रखरखाव की आवश्यकता होती है। रखरखाव की इस बढ़ी हुई आवश्यकता के कारण इन ट्रैकों पर हाई-स्पीड सेवाओं को बनाए रखना चुनौतीपूर्ण हो जाता है, क्योंकि ये ट्रैक तेजी से ट्रेनों के गतिशील भार के तहत अधिक तेजी से खराब हो जाते हैं।
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one word sums its all "Quality"
sorry mate, it's not just France, almost all European high-speed rail networks are on ballast tracks, even in the US, high-speed trains run on ballast tracks and even a large portion of Shinkansen trains run on ballast tracks. The problem is that we love to give an excuse for everything we aren't doing. It's common for trains to run at 200-250 kmph on ballast tracks almost every high speed rail network in the world
@@himankaroy3775 correct. However we cant run trains at those speeds here at graded levels without fool proof fencing which is almost impossible here due to human and animal intervention on tracks. Hence best to go for high cost but low maintenance non ballast HSR tracks on elevated viaducts.
US doesnt hav high speed trains. US railway isnt even electrified.
@@AlhadMahabal i think he is referring to the Acela trains.
@@AlhadMahabal a small portion near the East coast is electrified and many trains run at more than 100 mph
@@himankaroy3775 100mph is quite common speed. 150mph is minimum requirement for high speed railway. 100mph is quite common and is is no way a very fast speed
France has separate high speed rail network which is specifically designed for TGV trains and most of the TGV trains use them. But the advantage is that TGV is capable of running at 300 Km/h at the high speed lines using its full potential as well as run at 100-200 Km/h at classic lines making it more flexible.
India me sabse pehle logon ki soch badalni padegi uske baad infrastructure,strict laws ke baad hi high speed ka sapna pura kar sakte hai.
we don't have magic so , it can't be changed that easy ...
we need point system and surveillance
we need point system and massive surveillance
Yahape log 160 km/h waale traino pe pathar marte he, fir inilog bolte he Highspeed train kiu nhi banai ka rhi he
@@AnonymousGuy05 wo mainly herders hain jinki cattle trains mar deti h, especially high speed trains kyunki wo shor nhi krti aur gaae bakri bagh nhi pate. Baki fir asamajik tatv toh h he kuch bad-dimag log toh maze k liye he pathar mar dete h.
@@shubhamtariyal439agar shi karn ke liye hota toh patthar marne ke baad woh log bhaag nhi jaate, aur aise jaga se bhi patthar mara gya he jaha cattle ka kuch taluk nhi he. Gnnashewari train accident ke time track kaat ke urs dia tha.
@@shubhamtariyal439 patthar marne se unki cattle to unhe ni mil jayegi par agar wo proof ke sath railway dpt. me complaint karte to shayad kuch sahi hota par ye wo log hai jo pade likhe hote ni aur galat sangati ke karan ghatiya soch ke sath duniya ko takleef dene me lag jate hai aise log marr bhi jaye to kya fark padna hai
Indian Railway should first focus on Kavach & Fencing system, just a few days ago an infant elephant died in Assam due to a train collision, things like these absolutely break our hearts. Its useless to increase the speed of trains that are at ground level and are not fenced properly. Ministers including people of India are allergic in taking accountability of things and loss of lives.
The people who get appointment in railways are obviously educated and some r highly educated...still accidents happen...i dont think they r needed to be taught how to do their work...problem is at minister level..minister dont care and busy making money
@@yashpalchaudhary9752 Min is even more/equally educated and qualified as those who got appointment. Railway minister Ashwini Vaishnav is an IItian and also Ex-IAS officer better do the research before commenting and he has the highest Integrity and is known for his talent and commintment towards the nation.
Public ki priority different hai!
Pay nai karna, free me 100kmph mil jaye to bhi khush ho jayegi public !
Well said bullet train bhi chahiye 2 rupay mein india walo ko ache expressway achi trains sab kucch chahiye saste mein
👌👌
Fir ac coaches me ghusna bhi hai
Indians ko free Mai nahi chahiye pr jo de rahe ho wo toh dhang se do na
Humare trains overcrowded hai hygiene nahi hai platform achche nahi hai humesha delay hote hai
Aam admi ko ya middle class ko koi ac ya superfast train nahi chahiye bas
Existing trains me general class or sleeper class bada diye jaye to India ki 70 % population ki problem solve ho jaengi
Also India is developing it's own CBTC signalling system for bullet trains and metro.
Bullet trains prototypes are also being developed with steel with speeds upto 250kmph.
Aluminium vesrion may provide 20 percent boost to 300 kmph speeds.
😂😂😂...koi nahi jayega vai made in India bullet train main...Sala 50 kmph train literally hilne lagti hai...100 kmph jane se pahle train derailment hota hai India main....
@@somnathsinhababu7642maine trains ko 130 par bhi chalte hua dekha hai normal trains ko bas achi qualities ke tracks ka use karne lage to trains or speed me chalne lagegi or vande bharat to design hi isliye hui hai 😂 chamche
Vandhe bharat gand me dale jab afford hi nhi karste ticket toh kya fayda .. or wo bhi 90 me hi chalta he bjp ke chatu kabhi jake bett pata chalega@@sycoogaming2596
I think u r still living in2012@@somnathsinhababu7642
Haar cheej me india ko gali dene ki jarurat nahi, vande bharat jaise trains bhi banaya he india ne khud @@somnathsinhababu7642
The Indian mindset is "max 160 bas." Chinese mindset is "at least 250." That's why you have third class trains and they don't. Aim at hard and impossible looking goals and you'll create high value jobs. Otherwise you'll just have more babus and their babusitters.
if we had that mindset we wont be building the japanese bullet train, it just that our tracks are so old and many cuves and steep gradiant it just cant be done
Its just not worth the cost of rebuishing it, its better and cheaper to build a new system.
Also this "chinese mindset", yea right they have so many raillines to remote areas and running in losses and also many acciendent, unlike the japanese shinkansen
Similar thing happened in japan aswell, the shinkansen was a brand new system on brand new tracks coz the old ones were terrible like actually very slow
@@Fluorescence18 are you crazy? the train can be boarded within 15 minutes but you have to reach the airport 2 hours beforehand. You have limited luggage capacity and most airports outside Mumbai aren't located within the city so extra cost there. a train will take you from the city center to the city center, way more luggage and will be faster overall.
Its not just mindset, it is that china doesnt have to deal with democracy bullshit and there is no opposition which wants to derail projects or give freebies for votes.
A democratic country will always have a sluggish process
@@Fluorescence18 ok understandable and yes initially bullet train will have low occupancy in beginning coz people will start to use it eventually.
But u gotta remember for this distance, planes actually turn out kinda slower, coz u have to travel to the airport which are generally outside cities, then u have to wait for security, etc..,
One more thing, say i live in a smaller city(eg:- Bilimora, Bharuch, Anand/Nadiad as of right now route)
along the bullet train, my city doesnot have much air routes, then this would be amazing for me,
Basically i wanna say is a rail line brings prosperity to the whole route, instead of just 2 citites and thier airports
@@Fluorescence18 Also u dont get a plane for literally the next day, it hard on these busy routes and it will cost upwards of 10k if u wanna book a ticket for tommorow or something.
2k is only when u have planned well in advance which is not a case in this region, many busieness men travel here
Make a video on river interlinking project
India should upgrade its existing tracks to attain minimum 250km/hr speed. It will not cost much compared to building new tracks
Really who told u that...
Spain also has ballast tracks for high speed railways... Travelled from Barca to Madrid last year !!
Aur aise hi video bnao aap jismein dusre country se ham kya Sikh sakte hain kya jaan sakte iske bare mein baat hogi
@@AM_Nevrekar bat to ticket price pe hi aake rukegi, worldclass infra chahiye but pay nai karna hai!
@@jaysiddhapura 🤣🤣🤣 Sahi baat hai, Magar sab ne vande Bharat ko pahle criticize kiya tha aur ab use kar rahe hain aur tarif kar rahe hain
Lekin world class infrastructure India ke infrastructure jaisa weak nhi hota, jaise pragati tunnel, airport, bridge@@jaysiddhapura
@@atul3009 saste me banaoge to low quality hi banega na !!
@@jaysiddhapurataxpayer out of the population 2.3% ab batao.
Last year 450 M left India lsst few year 380 alone this year.
HNI who pay 100-300 cores in taxes and millionaires are leaving super fast. More taxation on middle class. Thier children us are planning or leaving more Faster.
80% government revenue middle class ko chuske ata hai bolte charity.
30% tax deke waise bhi kuch khas facility milti nahi .
Na izzat milti. Koi kyu rahe mauka milte hi gayab. Full family ke sath gayab.
Kaha development hoga .
Railway is nothing more than charity majority revenue is freight trains then 2ND and 3 RD AC end rest local, sleeper, everything is charity.
North India ka avg Indian income bapre.
Bihar West Bengal 20-40k a year annual income avg.
Meanwhile in Delhi haryana is still mine in South India majority 3-4 lakh per annum avg income.
So at least improve the existing network to hold speeds of at least 250 kmh.
Why ? Public will complain that ticket prices are high ! We dont need 250, we need 100 but with free ticket !
Public is not wrong problem is income of people is not increasing because of poor education and high unemployment and it is the first time we are getting good infra which is unknown to everyone@@jaysiddhapura
160 toh ho nahi raha 130 pe bas chalakar hi khush hai railway aur sapney 250 ke dekh rha hai bhai tu 🤡
@@jaysiddhapurano one will like to burn his pocket and travel
India me public ( excluding some sensible ones ) chati hai 50 rupees me travel karwa do chahe vo 50kmph hi ho , free hua toh aur bhi better.
Our people don't value time or believe that pay the standard price for the service they are getting. Plus we have extremely big brain politicians and social media propagandists who will criticize every decision for their vested interests.
Modi choor haaa sab kuch loot lagaaaa 😢
It's natural when people have money than they value time and comfort but when you don't have money then you value it's. If you monthly income is 10- 15 thousand you will not pay 2-3k for tickets because it's big amount for you.
When country developed and people have disposable income then they value comfort and time that show growing airways
@@kuldeepsuthar3259bhai paisa sabke pass h, daru 1000 ki kardo pine k liye roz paise h gareeb k pass
Muft khane ki aadat h
@@hiteshadhikari garib 50 ka pawa pita hai branded 1000.ki.rum.nhi
@@kuldeepsuthar3259 10-15 hazar walo ke liye ye train nahi bani, unka koi yogdan bhi nahi hai
40-50 k minimum wala travel karega isme
Gareebi ka rr karke vote apni jatti walo ko deke, free me mangte hai
I want to add following observations. I think a deeper understanding of engg & railway planning is called for. Shall be happy if these observations are commented upon.
1) In USA trains regularly touch 180km/hr on tracks with wooden sleepers & blast. We have issues in touching even 160km/hr with concrete sleepers over blast type tracks.
2) In Germany high speed ICE trains run on tracks with slabs only at speeds above 250km/hr. At speeds lower than this, tracks are with blast & concrete sleepers for the same high speed trains.
3) In Italy high speed tracks are with blast & concrete sleepers. Like in France trains touch speeds of 320km/hr.
4) In India, during 1980s most high traffic tracks were converted to concrete sleepers from wooden ones on blast and continuously welded rails. A lot of money must have been spent on this, but max speeds were 120km/hr only. If rail strength was an issue, one should wonder why the these were not upgraded as well in one go?
Good observations.....
As u said "if rail strength was an issue",
it is an issue and we shud have upgraded in one go but this was not the only issue, curves and gradients will still be there
Our gatimaan goes at 160kmph from delhi to agra, it is an amazing section, full fences etc, but its not long enough to sustain that speed, i definetly think if it would have been longer and less curves our gatimaan and Vande bharat would go faster, (as we start to approach mathura station, where it does not stop, i mean, speed should be reduced near a station but there is big curve near the station which limits the speed even more
The slabs have different grades and same for tracks too.
Also in US the railway is pathetic
@@kennedyspace1159 really??? Curves n Gradiants?? Go and see ICE train routes
Most important people Jo lota leke subah hagne jaye hai track pr , and in evening they do their meeting on track
@@hiteshadhikari yes its bad, coz most rail infra is used by cargo rail, but still it can reach pretty impressive speeds of 200-250
I don't have any issues with Indian railway trains running at 80 kmph, as long as they run on tracks.
India can start upgrading some segments of its rail network to allow for semi high speeds, Vande Bharat trains can speed up on those segments. The French rail network also has such straight and level segments where their TGV trains speed up.
Bit by big we can upgrade most of our network this way.
In the future the regular rail lines could run semi high-speed EMU trains like vande bharat, while the elevated bullet train lines could run super high-speed trains thay focus on speed rather than volume.
In short, every developed country can do anything because of their determination and vision. While when it comes to us, we just find excuses and blockers instead of focusing on solving problems and tapping opportunities. It's easier to just say that due to xyz reason we can't do anything. But it's really difficult to do something despite xyz reason.
Dreams 300km ke aur reality 100 ki bhi nahi hai. Kyuki corruption ki speed 1000 km/hr se kai jyada hai India mein
ALL FUTURE RAIL TRECK SHOULD BE BALLEST LESS IF WE WANT TO BE SUPER POWER UP TO 2047
Bro do a video on why we can or cannot have At-Grade Bullet trains with high quality fencing? This can reduce costs.
India bada hai bas.
Usa bhi bada hai lekin apni east coast mai acela ka network hai unka Jo ballast track par 200+ par chalti hai aur unka east coast Delhi se kanyakumari jitna bada hai
Bhai Char Dham railway project ke par aik dedicated video banaye, kiya update hai, kaha tak kam huwa hai, kitna aur baki hai, kabtak start hogi etc.
France Railway always crazy 🔥
France apne trains ko Design Speed se v jyada Speed pe test karte hai.
Jabki Japan, China, Italy, Spain saare Design Speed tak hi test karte hai apne trains ko.
Aur wahi India Design Speed se v kam Speed pe test karte hai. (Examples- Vande Bharat train).
Hey, I have an idea for our railways. Why can't we model our railways on how internet protocol works?
Like instead of running dedicated trains between multiple points, which then have to be carefully managed to avoid collisions; we can have different destination for different coaches on same train, for common path of each destination.
Example : If people want to go from A to B, C and D. And all routes are common till point A1. Then merge the coaches of all trains till A1. At point A1, the coaches can split off and go on different direction. Again on another direction, these coaches can merge with a different set of coaches, having common route. In this way, we don't need multiple trains. And we can always run periodic trains between any 2 points. People can climb on any train at any time. Depending on final destination, they can be asisgned the right coach, which can split and merge until they reach final destination.
This will reduce accidents, and also reduce delays due to intermediate crossings between trains.
Population density bohot kam hai aur land acquisition rates bohot zyada hai France mei isi liye unhone yeh method choose kiya. China ,India aur Japan mei population density bhi bohit zyada hai aur land acquisition rates utna zyada nehi hai jitna ek early industrialised country mei tha (France , Germany ,Italy aur England)
Train in the UK Running at 220+ with Curves Gradient & blast tracks
Railways ke Pass pasai nahi hai that's why they aren't interested
Warna Sab Possible hai
Paisa hai. Politics is the problem.
@@rajx7120 Na Pasai bhi nahi hai 1000 KM Track ko Upgrade kar ke 250+ karne gaye to Budget khatam Railway ka
@@mr.rohitchowdhury3082 we can't run trains at 200+ here at graded levels without fool proof fencing and that itself is a big challenge. Even if we upgrade our networks somehow there's just too much of human and animal intervention on the tracks.
@jaguarunleashed4935 That's what I'm saying
We don't have a budget for all of those things
Hamare yaha sirf ek ke sath hi competition hota hai aur wo hai - Pakistan 😅
It can certainly run on new yracks ;)
You already know india is building newer ones
I used to work in Paris some 35 years back. There I found that the TGV tracks were different where non TGV trains did not travel. Other trains used different tracks. In Japan, last seen in 2016, the Shinkansen tracks were for JR only. I never saw non bullet trains on these tracks. Other companies were using their own tracks. This segregation is necessary to run different speed trains in the country.
Please make a video on Spanish high speed rail which runs on both standard and broad gauges.
जय हिंद जय भारत 🚩🇮🇳
If Indian Govt focuses on high speed lines ppl start complaining that’s it’s not for poor class. Tickets too high.
High speed lines need investment in Billions and Govt can’t spend them straightaways. Need to invest in phase wise. Ppl should accept high prices.
Would it have been better if they had made a new system, and lesser maintainence cost instead of developing new tgv with as said, great suspension and high levels of investemnt in train maintainence and inspection ???
We should still upgrade to 150 to 200, quick acceleration,fix time ,no stop for passing other trains, kavach ATP system, new track for future in areas like replacing old railway bridges, Ghat sections like kasara Ghat, steep turns.....
भारत वाले तो अपने ट्रेन सही से नहीं चला पा रहे है जब देखो एक्सीडेंट होते रहते है तो ये बुलेट ट्रेन क्या चलाएंगे
sir ek video brts vs neo metro per bana dijiye please 🙏
India needs ballatless tracks with low curves , CBTC block signal system , Aluminium Vande bullet trai. with better suspensions , Automatic solid state electrical interlocking for tracks and fencing the entire railway.
Alluminium VB ka grassroot industry nahi h India m..pura supply chain railway ko khud create karna hoga
@@Adi-oc2hd toh develop karenge aur kya.
BHEL kam pe pehle hi lag gayi he
@@Adi-oc2hd Also India is developing it's own CBTC signalling system for bullet trains and metro.
Bullet trains prototypes are also being developed with steel with speeds upto 250kmph.
Aluminium vesrion may provide 20 percent boost to 300 kmph speeds.
@@in-human1698 baat vahi h cost benefit analysis ka..jitna massive cost lagega us hisaab se benefit agar keval 10-15% ka hi hoga to utna feasible nahi hoga..lekin baat sahi h aapki
@@in-human1698Train in UK are running at 220+ with Curves Gradient & Blast Tracks
Railway k pass pasai nahi hai Simple jo itne Fast train run kar sake
India me logo ko Sab Free mangta hai
Railway ka kuch nahi ho sakta Bullet Train hi banayea Goverment to sahi hai
Do a video on " R350 HT Track upgradation "
With the upgradation of current tracks to R350 HT , will Indian Railways run a 200 to 250 kmph train ?
3:50
Itna straight track to maine bharat me kabhi nahi dekha hai... what's the point of so many brilliant minds when the govt doesnt allow them to put them to good use?
Indian railway use broad gauge which doesn't have high speed system.
India runs high speed trains on Old tracks, only they run them at slow speeds.🤔
Because of extreme temperatures
Indian railway instead of creating alternative routes and laying more tracks they are just making existing routes by laying roads parallel.
Their are so many junctions which can be shifted by making alternative routes.
Simple. Humari patharav premi janta
separate track for bullet train is a good idea.. and anyways Railways is working on 200kmph trains for regular tracks. so both these projects, if and when implemented are sufficient.
That's a lie
@@goodevilyt3447 apni bta de bhai firr.
यहां रेलवे में स्कैम ही बंद हो जाए तब देखे फिर 😂😂।
What if we layed cement in the current track ?? Its may be strong than before
Bhai tracks continuously switch hoti rhti h line k hisaab se..uspe cement daal doge to ho gya😂
@@Adi-oc2hd are bhai bich me dal denge 🙂
Bhai sirf cement ese hi nahi dal dete tere chath pe sirf cement daal diya tha ya iron beam and ceiling ke upar set kiya gaya hoga track ko cement karne ke liye pura hatana padega
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@@rollsroyce4249 bilkul sahi
India m yahi h
Jai jai krte rho
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To Kya Hua India India mein to Vande Bharat deshon ki bahut Tej Chalti Hai Rapid bhi ban gai hai
Ya par AC trains hi chala lo, vo bhaut badi baat hai. Railways wapis non AC coaches laa Raha hai. Seriously
Bhai ac economy coaches ki ticket sirf 70-80Rs ssti ha aise kaise log afford kr payege
Lo Agar general ko utake ac coaches lagao to problem phir ac ko utake general coaches lagao to bhi problem 😂 wl
Sare socialist leftists rone lag gye the isliye karna pada
@@Adi-oc2hd Ac economy coaches tho lgaye nahi jinka kiraya sleeper and 3Ac ka bich ka hona tah fir kya fyda
3E coaches bna diye jiska kiraya sirf 50-80Rs kam h
There is demand for non ac and the railways is filling it. I dont see anything wrong. I just wish ticketless travel was cracked down upon.
India Vande Bharat lekhei khush rahe 😅
Germany as well
300 nahi kam se kam 180 hi chalo wo bhi bas ka nahi hi
Pure Indian railway tracks ko ballastless track se convert karne chahiye taaki Indian railway trains full speed mein run hogi.
extremely expensive
@@jaguarunleashed4935 expensive hai par major routes par kar sakte hai jaise
1. Delhi-mumbai
2. Delhi-howrah
3. Delhi- chennai
4. Mumbai- chennai
5. Chennai- howrah
6. Mumbai- howrah
Ye major routes hai jinpe kiya ja sakta hai or sath me in routes ke tracks ko 2 lines se 4 lines me upgrade bhi karna padega. Or khaskar ke delhi - howrah route ko kyuki railways ko sabse jada traffic yahi milta hai reason up or bihar
@@sycoogaming2596atleast patna delhi to pakka karna caahiye ye area conjusted hai kaafi
@@vickybharti3845 wahi bol raha hu bhaiya delhi howrah main line bohot traffic hai is route pe. Or agar abhi track nhi badha sakte to is route ki trains me sleeper or general coach badha do.
Aisa karte hai pure Indian railways tracks ko hatao aur poora hyperloop bana dete hai. Aur sahi rahega ha?
Why cant India run high speed trains ??
Answer is we are Indians !
Kyuki France mei India ki tarah purey sheher tracks pe nhi basey hotey
one word corrupted govt
Ballast or ballast less is irrelevant. We need trains which can go at true high speed. Planes cannot move people in bulk, train can. I am surprised that there is so much opposition to Vande Bharat which is not even a high speed train. In a decade or two the same lot who think it is elitist today, would be complaining about the short sightedness of the then government, in not planning for a fast, efficient mass transport systems across cities. They don't even stop to think that, at least for the excuse of running that train, the railways will be forced to upgrade the tracks and the signaling system and that the entire railway network shall benefit. If we don't plan for true high speed trains today, our airports will be in a state of mess tomorrow, plane fares would be super costly and unaffordable to everyone except the elite and waiting lists will resemble like those for trains today. Migrant laborers will benefit as well as many of them are daily wagers and if the network is upgraded it can save them a day or two which implies a day or two's earnings. Unfortunately the average Indian doesn't think on these lines falls to the sophistry of a few agenda driven you tubers and some vested interests who do not want the country to develop at all.
We don't have the ability to do it.
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Why indian government laid cheap tracks ?
If france can solve their own problem with advanced technology why cant india solve its own problem with advanced technologies
I Just watched a old indian movie reel and the train station of that time isn’t different from what i can see now means no improvement of station itself same goes for bus top only area is increased there is a drastic difference in airport and railway station ,bus stops why
Bande bharat 180 chal sakte lekin 130 chal raha hai 😢
I think ki jo Indian railways jo teen track ya char track dal raha hai apne current infrastructure mein usmein se at least ek truck ko broad gate se change karke standard gauge mein kar dena chahie jyada kuchh change kiye Bina is baat se koi fark nahin padta ki use track per train ki kitni speed hongi agar 200 ya 240 km per hour ki bhi speed Hui to bhi vah enough hoga vah ek learning hongi hamare liye taki ham dhire dhire improve kar sake aur yah karne ke liye mere pass ek best railway root hai Mumbai se Delhi Tak ka ya Ahmedabad se Delhi Tak ka yahan per third railway line ko change karke standard girls mein kar Diya jaaye aur ek train operational kar di jaaye isase hamen bahut kuchh sikhane mil sakta hai
koi faida nahi hoga usse . 200+ pe chalana mushkil hai yaha pe without fool proof fencing.
@@jaguarunleashed4935 exactly , hamare current tracks me kafi bends and steep gradients h to koi fayda nahi, speed maintain hi nahi ho paegi, plus as u said full fencing, jo kuch samay baad nikal denge log obv. and level crossings with road
and also railtrack se side me land lena padta, illegal enchoriment ko hatana etce tec
iss sab jhanjhat se aacha ek naya system banao elevated ekdum badia, even bullet trains ke station mostly city ke andar hi h, to jyada jagah nahi leni padegi, railways se hi mil jaegi
Japan bhi Most of the Shinkansen run karta hain Ballast Tracks par
main bhi yhi sochta tha, FRance ki trains ki patri india jaisi h, bullet train ki alag, dono ki speed300 kmph, aaj pta chla lol
Kyaaa?? TGV on ballastless track??
bring Krishnaraj rao on your podcast
Actually I don't know how to say we really need to think about how to generate jobs instead of false GDP which is always maintained by 1percenatage people
What's the average speed of french TGV and shinkansen?
280 tgv and japan 320
France does not run on old tracks. The French High Speed Rail or TGV run on dedicated lines called LGV... Germany run their High Speed Rail on old tracks where the speed is restricted to 160 - 230 kmph or on new High Speed Corridors @ 300 kmph...
In India upgrading would cost more then new tracks because so poor quality and so many sharp turns and very bad maintenance 😅, you have to almost upgrade everything and that would distribute normal train routes because of delay in work so many hassles and so many places to change every little thing and still we won't have stability of new concrete tracks and train would run on half it's intended Speed so, new tracks is much better option anyways
Pls provide eng subs :-)
before we start bashing the Indian railways, remember one thing that for decades, Railways was under the control of the government and every change took years to implement.
now on technical issues, pls notice you tube videos of French Trains. most of them are smaller at 10-12 coaches and with 40-60% occupancy, even that is due to the new law which says, flights of 200km or less are not allowed if there is a TVG alternative available.
and in India, the trains are 18-19 coaches average, but many have upto 24 coaches and many trains often carry upto 130% of the passengers, and in some areas, the % is often 250%.
Indian railways cannot risk so many lives by trying to run faster trains on slower tracks.
there are too many curves, too many stations enroute where tracks have to curve to serve 4-5 platforms, eg New Delhi has 18platforms i think (Howrah has more but then it is a terminal station ie trains can only come in and have to go back same way) where trains from all corners of India come in and leave the station.
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the most important thing, unlike France, we do not have an unlimited money source (France literally own many African countries where a part of that country's earnings goes into France coffers) and France is way smaller than India so it can afford to upgrade its rail infrastructure much faster and quicker compared to India
Dekh bhai. Indian politician ko chahiye Paisa corruption. Nye project ko wo vote mangne k liye use krte h election m. Indian Engineers are capable of doing everything,only lacks the support from govt.
ISRO, DRDO, HAL toh kya 10 saal se so rahe the?
@@Anonymationsthecoolanimator Govt ne sulaya kisne h unko. Govt PSUs h wo. Tum logo n class 10th tk ki bhi basic nhi pdhi h.
@@Certifiedh PSU ne record 5 lakh crore ka profit kamaya FY23-24 mein
France ne nhi ki thi 568 achive.... Japan ne ki thi maglev train k sath .... Research karo bhai
In simple language India railways pe uthna kaam nhi karta jitna bahar ke karte hai
Your problem is curves in railway tracks. It has nothing to do with ballast. Wrong information is being given. You need self levelling or tilting trains on curved tracks at high speed like the Swedish x2000.
Curves have to be done because land acquisition is difficult in India.
Without curves Railway would cease to exist considering the population & home density of India with various kind of topography
Ghuma phirake baat ye hai quality matters!
Main reason to broadgage ka hai ye to bataya hi nahi
India is basically late. It now needs to think that what it can do to make things better for the things that is already with us. Here railways are more busy in bringing or designing new trains. But what they forgot is advanced level tracks. Its ok if your tracks are capable of handling 600kmph train speed but your trains actually run at just 300kmph. These can be slowly be upgraded with proper precuation and safety measures through out the railway network. But here the railways want vande bharat and these and that. Whats the use of those trains if they cant run at double or triple the speed of what the current fatest train can run(before vande bharat). You are basically throwing the country way behind then even china. We dont want to compare but we need those high speed railways so that multiple journeys can be made in a shorter time and eventually waiting list shit can be reduced if not stopped to a greater extent.
Still i hope now railway thinks of at least making both trains and tracks capable of 400kmph constant speed.
Plus we public must now needs to think that we need to even pay to get for what we dream off. Dont expect non sense discount, privilege system, low fair for premium service.etc. Pay for what you need or else dont speak against anything. Also railways needs to focus on equal distribution of its services on such kind of trains.
New doesn’t want to run on poop track 😂
Please support BSNL 😢😢😢
Jis din corruption and proper tax pay krenge log us India se garibi hast jayegi and bhout development hoga
I've never heard so many wrong points being put out one after the other.
France is known for having a completely dedicated HGV Netz. It's just a Google search away. I can't believe you can't even do that . Disappointed 🙃
India me peace full se maintain zeda hotahe
Because then it will become a kiling machine running on track.
Not mind set xuse we are ruled with old corrupted politicians who feel mkkgn trains worth 100 crores will make Indians happy , and have made pan india roads worth crores and worst mumbai craters and cracks have developed on coastal roads and even atul setu newly mad bridge.a
But as they say a re busy qith attending rs 5000 croew weddings
TLDR, bahane banana asaan he, kuch kar ke dikhane ke liye jasba hona chahiye
Aap pehle technology aur infra based stereotypes create karte ho, aur phir use hi todd dete ho 🤣🤣
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Voice over bekaar hai
Bhai political issues aur corruption sabse bada reason hai warna india sab kuch kar sakta hai.
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❤❤No brains 😢😢😢😢
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Tumhe ye generic layman explanation se accha agar correct technical info dete to kuch fayda bhi hota
Ballast ka ex major problem ye hai ki high speed me vortex banke ballast suck kr leta hai jo undercarriage equipment ko damage krta hai
Infact France SNCF ka repairing video me bhi yehi bolte hai ki unko ballast track se kaam chal jata hai kyuki unka HSR PushPull type hai lekin dusro country ka EMU hai so repairing cost jyda hoga isiliye dusre country Ballastless opt krte hai
@@Gourab22 great point to be noted yes itni speed me patthar udte h, which is expensive to repair
@@kennedyspace1159 par agar push pull me ho to damage ka probability less hai kyuki only 2 out of 10 coaches me undercarriage equipment hai
@@Gourab22 ha par vahi hna itan complicated kyu kar, fencing, curves, level crossing, just make a new line elevated to avoid all this, it is expensive but worth it
4:49 bro don't say this that india dont have ability to make train we have trains like vande bharat jo 180kmph-200kmph pe chal sakte hai atleast tracks itna to capable to banaye ki trains 200kmph-250kmph per to chal sake