honestly momoe getting upset by lesbians having crushes on her and then also getting mad when they move on/dont have crushes on her is PEAK straight girl
To answer some of your questions about Frill, as I interpret it: Frill seems to be heavily tied to symbolism with jellyfish, hence the, well, jellyfish that kept being shown. The first thing she saw in the room when being born was curtains covering up a bunch of coiled cables that looked very jellyfish-esque, so she named herself after the most beautiful part of the jellyfish: their frills. The pretty parts that bely their dangerous, stinging tendrils. If you want to read into it EVEN MORE, one could argue there's also something there about how jellyfish don't have brains or hearts--maybe there's something there about Frill lacking a soul. Along with beauty, jellyfish in Japanese media also often symbolize immortality and spirits of the dead, since they can regenerate any part of their body and survive in oceanic dead zones; and faith and self-actualization in the face of hardship since they spend their entire lives being dragged along by the current. Some exapmples off the top of my head are Roderika and the Spirit Jellyfish in Elden Ring; the ghost-type jellyfish Pokemon; Tsukimi from Princess Jellyfish; even Akane from Psycho-Pass has a bit of jellyfish symbolism with her room's personal hologram-assistant thing being a jellyfish. But anyway, back to Frill. I think the jellyfish symbolism also may tie into the folklore of the god Ebisu, who is often associated with jellyfish. The two gods Izanagi and Izanami were to create their first child, but Izanami messed up the ritual. Because of this, the child was born without bones, and so Izanagi and Izanami cast him into the ocean. The child survived, however, and ended up becoming a god able to control the ocean's currents and sealife. Two beings creating a child, messing it up, and casting it into the ocean only for it to become a god anyway. Sounds pretty familiar.
Don't forget that the person who told us that Koito was threatening to make a false accusation and then slipped and fell to an accidental death was Mr. Sawaki. Who would NEVER, NEVER have a motive to lie about such a thing. Unless he was really a sexual predator the whole time, who was grooming Ai and romancing Ai's mother to get closer to Ai (which was exactly what happened in the Nabokov novel Lolita).
@@Shewhospeakesinverse Honestly this plot point reminded me more of Splice where a couple makes a science baby, the dad gets "seduced" then killed and it impregnates the mom at the end.
I'm sorry for the long comment but I need space to vent about the writer's filmography: High School Teacher (1993): A high school teacher and his female student fall in love. Student also gets a rape-blackmail plot. Ie naki ko (1994): A preteen girl becomes homeless after burning her house down in an attempt to kill her father, gets abused by the bandit family she joins, eventually gets sold off to the circus and abused, eventually pretends to be a daughter of some rich guy to enter a rich kids’ school and gets bullied. She has a dog side-kick throughout all this. Miseinen (1995): A bunch of troubled teen boys get into gang fights and their girlfriends die and eventually one of them accidentally shoots up a bank and so they’re on the run and fjsdkfjdslk Seija no Koushin (1998): A group of mentally disabled teens gets sent to work/live at a factory where they get abused physically and sexually. Doubly offensive since you have a bunch of actors pretending to be mentally disabled. Koinu no waltz (2004): Blind pianos girl only has her talent and her pet dog to rely on. Yes, she is abused. Ashita, Mama ga inai (2014): Young children get abused in the foster care system. Main character’s mom literally tells her “hey my bf doesn’t want you so I’m giving you away.” Our House (2016): Japanese family gets a new AMERICAN stepmom. Not offensive, but there’s a scene with the AMERICAN mom makes mini hamburgers for her sick child. This... This man should stop writing
Also, Japan has afternoon soap operas that go on forever, but most of these shows are prime time 9-12 episode runs, so Nojima has PLENTY of experience working on that kind of episode count. He just sucks. He sucks so much.
@@theodorelehman (I feel terrible even writing this) The mentally disabled boy somehow gets a gun and accidentally pulls the trigger when his friends tries to yank it out of his hands.
This is High School Teacher (2003) erasure, yes he did a sequel 10 years later about new characters in similar situations at the same school, it was actually the first thing that came up when I googled it
Hearing people calling Wonder Egg empowering is like being told you're being taken to a really authentic mexican restaurant and when you get there it's a freakin' taco bell
The writer told everyone else it was authentic, so they made an opening day special that was really good. But then the writer gave everyone else the full menu and it said "Baja Blast Mountain Dew all the way baby!"
The "good guy teacher" thing is so insidious, and BOY HOWDY did they double down on the dangerous messaging. "Don't trust your gut about that creepy adult man." "You can't be sure it's abuse; maybe it's all in your head!" "Literally every single thing they've ever said about teen girls." The whole damb anime acts like a groomer.
Me: Egg! Egg! Egg! Cube, Pheen, and Eddy: Egg! Egg! Egg! The Comments: EGG! EGG! EGG! Anime Slushie brings me so much joy whenever there's a new one. Thank you for sitting through this Egg.
How on earth did this get made? Was everyone so burnt out from overwork that nobody thought about what was being put on screen? Am I referring to Egg? Shadows House? Neverland S2? I don’t know anymore!
I fucking love how after all this garbage, the whole thing ends in basically a nonresolution for anyone and a desperate plea for a sequel season as it desperately, wounded, concussed, and flailing, months after everyone else already left the stadium and went home, throws itself across the finish line of this season.
My guess on the jellyfishes is that it's supposed to be a creature that seems diaphanous and beautiful, but can sting you horribly. I feel like you could try and link their tendrils to the name "Frill," but would that be a stretch?
the duds were researching on jellyfishes for some high value, secret subject, considering what's the hot topic when it was making, it's probably about immortality.
"It seems like the Akas were trying to bring their daughter back by trying to get one from a parallel universe, and didn't actually give a shit about anyone else." Kingpin from Spiderverse did it better
glad to be with y'all for this wild ride!! even after everything I heard about this cluster of episodes, watching them broke me in a way I couldn't anticipate 💀 hearing y'all vocalize this stuff is cathartic tbh. also Eddy was such a fun and pleasant guest! :D
Oh no, I can't believe your alternate reality self committed suicide. I can't believe you killed yourself, I can't believe it. I can't believe you committed suicide.
I think Koito wanting Momoe to take her shoes off is probably a parallel to a lot of suicide victims in Japan taking their shoes off before they jump off a building or something like that. Still ends up being kind of weird, though.
Wait, did Aka know that Frill murdered his wife, or was he just throwing her down the stairs and into a box because he had a real daughter to replace her with?
God the parallel world shit reminds me of another piece of media with bad parallel universe stuff that is also filled with nonsense: world's best indie rpg, YIIK! Wonder egg really is just magical girl site x YIIK with a budget
What is truly frustrating about this show is that you can see 12 ways it could have been better and they downright artfully dance around all of them. Hell, with Frill play up that she isn't human, we're used to robots being human like in shows so maybe lean into the fact she doesn't have proper emotions, a symbol of the Acca's hubris and arrogance. Done right it makes kicking a 14 year old down the stairs and later into a damn furnace 10% more bearable. But then Neiru kiboshes that idea so screw it. I haven't seen something careen this hard off the rails from solid to eh to legit bad in years, not mere disappointment but full on failure. This show sucks.
It's amazing how the promise of that first ep carried everyone along for so long, and how like, you could SEE the good show it could have been so clearly
I've read all of the manga so far, and I don't think it does? (unless they hire the WEP guy to write the second season of the anime, lol) The art may sometimes be a bit overly detailed in ways that might be kinda eyebrow raising, but it doesn't really go anywhere offensive or morally questionable in terms of themes (at least so far)
Thank you for this!! And not just for the satisfaction of knowing that I’m not alone or insane in hating a show that everyone says is good when it is, on so many levels, horrible and gross and sexist and shockingly poorly-written. I do hope that as time goes on more people will come around on Egg. Not because I want people to “hate” on the show, but because I really hope that more people will eventually be able to see all of the blatant sexism and homophobia that’s been baked into the show since the beginning. Especially if they’re people who review, analyze, and discuss anime regularly. Because it’s important to be able to recognize that shit when you see it!
I know this is a common talking point and all, but WEP is riddled with overt and latent sexism from episode 2 onwards. It runs way, way deeper than one scene in episode 4. We've already talked about it in the previous egg slushies.
@@Dula8207 So that's what the director said, but apparently in an interview the writer basically said his inspiration to write the show was... what the Accas said, that girl suicides are emotional and different from guy suicides and he wanted to write about it, so... seems there were some creative differences there...
So at 30:49 it wasn't clear that we were seeing Dead Ai's reflection, so for a moment I thought they'd flipped the girls' eye colors in addition to having different clothes, to help viewers tell them apart. Like, "Wow they've kinda shown their hand regarding how dense they assume the fans are." Either that, or it's not a reflection at all and somebody did a oops in the coloring department. Still, I'm haunted by the question of whether the creators think they're amazing, or if this whole anime has been an experiment in convincing people that a bad story is clever.
This look like it was written like a “cadavre exquis”. One guy writes one episode. Then another came in to fuck the story as much as possible. Then another one continues with other ideas. It’s weird.
Anime Slushie coming to you from a parallel universe where everything is the same except that Big Macs don't have lettuce. And presumably, a slew of teen suicides over the lack of lettuce.
OK THIS IS OFF TOPIC, BUT, I WILL SAY, HIGURASHI GOU IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN WEP I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WATCHED BOTH AND while higurashi gou (the new season) HAS PROBLEMS i promise its like. actually thought out and has decent intent. UNLIKE WEP. tho i can accept ppl not going for it. what i CANNOT accept is people saying wep only got bad at the end. thank you for truly breaking down my favorite comedy of all time, aka all of episode 11 , but particularly the part where a little girl is screaming "no daddy no not the dark place!" while she gets shoved into a Floor Locker.
Far better shows than this have run aground on the rock of parallel worlds, etc. This weird 'have their cake and not have it creepy' thing at the end. Ugh.
I was willing to forgive all of the problems that this series has, as long as the ending was AT LEAST okay/acceptable. But no, it was shit, so I just gave up. Horrible anime.
honestly momoe getting upset by lesbians having crushes on her and then also getting mad when they move on/dont have crushes on her is PEAK straight girl
This is a top-tier observation
To answer some of your questions about Frill, as I interpret it:
Frill seems to be heavily tied to symbolism with jellyfish, hence the, well, jellyfish that kept being shown. The first thing she saw in the room when being born was curtains covering up a bunch of coiled cables that looked very jellyfish-esque, so she named herself after the most beautiful part of the jellyfish: their frills. The pretty parts that bely their dangerous, stinging tendrils. If you want to read into it EVEN MORE, one could argue there's also something there about how jellyfish don't have brains or hearts--maybe there's something there about Frill lacking a soul.
Along with beauty, jellyfish in Japanese media also often symbolize immortality and spirits of the dead, since they can regenerate any part of their body and survive in oceanic dead zones; and faith and self-actualization in the face of hardship since they spend their entire lives being dragged along by the current. Some exapmples off the top of my head are Roderika and the Spirit Jellyfish in Elden Ring; the ghost-type jellyfish Pokemon; Tsukimi from Princess Jellyfish; even Akane from Psycho-Pass has a bit of jellyfish symbolism with her room's personal hologram-assistant thing being a jellyfish.
But anyway, back to Frill. I think the jellyfish symbolism also may tie into the folklore of the god Ebisu, who is often associated with jellyfish. The two gods Izanagi and Izanami were to create their first child, but Izanami messed up the ritual. Because of this, the child was born without bones, and so Izanagi and Izanami cast him into the ocean. The child survived, however, and ended up becoming a god able to control the ocean's currents and sealife. Two beings creating a child, messing it up, and casting it into the ocean only for it to become a god anyway. Sounds pretty familiar.
Don't forget that the person who told us that Koito was threatening to make a false accusation and then slipped and fell to an accidental death was Mr. Sawaki. Who would NEVER, NEVER have a motive to lie about such a thing. Unless he was really a sexual predator the whole time, who was grooming Ai and romancing Ai's mother to get closer to Ai (which was exactly what happened in the Nabokov novel Lolita).
Yeah the idea that Ai just walks away from that convo like, 'yeah makes sense, no point following up' is just... yeah written by an old dude
There's so much skeevy with how they did this I honestly am not equipped to unpack it.
Yeah if they insist on doing something that stupid or shouldve been from a neutral third party perspective
1:28 "I don't watch a lot of ongoing anime because I have trust issues" SAMEEEEE
Was Koito's former teacher's death the "goal-oriented male suicide" I've heard so much about?
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How do you have a girl with two dads and end up making it straight in the creepiest way possible
Honestly i feel like two dads science made girl is a thing in scifi but i cant think of any examples off the dome
@@Shewhospeakesinverse Honestly this plot point reminded me more of Splice where a couple makes a science baby, the dad gets "seduced" then killed and it impregnates the mom at the end.
Just run to the nearest konbini and pick up a disposable wife. Voila! (Wife™ must be kept refrigerated for best results.)
I'm sorry for the long comment but I need space to vent about the writer's filmography:
High School Teacher (1993): A high school teacher and his female student fall in love. Student also gets a rape-blackmail plot.
Ie naki ko (1994): A preteen girl becomes homeless after burning her house down in an attempt to kill her father, gets abused by the bandit family she joins, eventually gets sold off to the circus and abused, eventually pretends to be a daughter of some rich guy to enter a rich kids’ school and gets bullied. She has a dog side-kick throughout all this.
Miseinen (1995): A bunch of troubled teen boys get into gang fights and their girlfriends die and eventually one of them accidentally shoots up a bank and so they’re on the run and fjsdkfjdslk
Seija no Koushin (1998): A group of mentally disabled teens gets sent to work/live at a factory where they get abused physically and sexually. Doubly offensive since you have a bunch of actors pretending to be mentally disabled.
Koinu no waltz (2004): Blind pianos girl only has her talent and her pet dog to rely on. Yes, she is abused.
Ashita, Mama ga inai (2014): Young children get abused in the foster care system. Main character’s mom literally tells her “hey my bf doesn’t want you so I’m giving you away.”
Our House (2016): Japanese family gets a new AMERICAN stepmom. Not offensive, but there’s a scene with the AMERICAN mom makes mini hamburgers for her sick child.
This... This man should stop writing
Also, Japan has afternoon soap operas that go on forever, but most of these shows are prime time 9-12 episode runs, so Nojima has PLENTY of experience working on that kind of episode count. He just sucks. He sucks so much.
Wait, how does the kid *accidentally* shoot up a bank? What Rube Goldberg Machine from Hell would lead to that?
@@theodorelehman (I feel terrible even writing this) The mentally disabled boy somehow gets a gun and accidentally pulls the trigger when his friends tries to yank it out of his hands.
Holy shit! Writing criminal!
This is High School Teacher (2003) erasure, yes he did a sequel 10 years later about new characters in similar situations at the same school, it was actually the first thing that came up when I googled it
Hearing people calling Wonder Egg empowering is like being told you're being taken to a really authentic mexican restaurant and when you get there it's a freakin' taco bell
The writer told everyone else it was authentic, so they made an opening day special that was really good. But then the writer gave everyone else the full menu and it said "Baja Blast Mountain Dew all the way baby!"
The "good guy teacher" thing is so insidious, and BOY HOWDY did they double down on the dangerous messaging. "Don't trust your gut about that creepy adult man." "You can't be sure it's abuse; maybe it's all in your head!" "Literally every single thing they've ever said about teen girls." The whole damb anime acts like a groomer.
Crying imagining a good show where Ai helping her alternate self in order to help herself is the end, alas, egg
"There's a lot to not understand" sums this show up quite neatly.
Me: Egg! Egg! Egg!
Cube, Pheen, and Eddy: Egg! Egg! Egg!
The Comments: EGG! EGG! EGG!
Anime Slushie brings me so much joy whenever there's a new one. Thank you for sitting through this Egg.
We sat on the Egg and hatched misogyny
How on earth did this get made? Was everyone so burnt out from overwork that nobody thought about what was being put on screen? Am I referring to Egg? Shadows House? Neverland S2? I don’t know anymore!
When no one was looking, Koito stole 50 cakes. She stole 50 cakes. That's as many as 5 tens.
And that's terrible.
I fucking love how after all this garbage, the whole thing ends in basically a nonresolution for anyone and a desperate plea for a sequel season as it desperately, wounded, concussed, and flailing, months after everyone else already left the stadium and went home, throws itself across the finish line of this season.
Nojima said in that interview he 'realised' the story was too long for one season and decided to finish it in the second. The hubris is amazing.
My guess on the jellyfishes is that it's supposed to be a creature that seems diaphanous and beautiful, but can sting you horribly. I feel like you could try and link their tendrils to the name "Frill," but would that be a stretch?
That would make sense as a metaphor, in that it's a gross way to think about teen girls XD
the duds were researching on jellyfishes for some high value, secret subject, considering what's the hot topic when it was making, it's probably about immortality.
"It seems like the Akas were trying to bring their daughter back by trying to get one from a parallel universe, and didn't actually give a shit about anyone else."
Kingpin from Spiderverse did it better
Nod
glad to be with y'all for this wild ride!! even after everything I heard about this cluster of episodes, watching them broke me in a way I couldn't anticipate 💀 hearing y'all vocalize this stuff is cathartic tbh. also Eddy was such a fun and pleasant guest! :D
Eddy was very good and we want to have her on again!
Gawd, the showrunner looks so much like Neil Breen. I know that doesn't explain any of this, but it feels like it does.
I don't know who that is, but someone told me that the show runner was actually Dan Schneider in a convincing meatsuit I would believe it
Oh no, I can't believe your alternate reality self committed suicide. I can't believe you killed yourself, I can't believe it. I can't believe you committed suicide.
This show does NOT deserve a season two. It's such a mess. Also, that bit with Koito feels like character assassination.
For real i would be soo mad too if this get a season 2
I think Koito wanting Momoe to take her shoes off is probably a parallel to a lot of suicide victims in Japan taking their shoes off before they jump off a building or something like that. Still ends up being kind of weird, though.
*I mean Ai, not Momoe
TIME. FOR. DELICIOUS. E G G.
I love how the final devolved into various plot points from Rick & Morty.
When cube said "Eddy why? " I had a flashback to a different episode
Wait, did Aka know that Frill murdered his wife, or was he just throwing her down the stairs and into a box because he had a real daughter to replace her with?
cant believe we learned phoenixs tragic backstory...
Ai doing her best Richard Nixon impression in that screenshot.
I looked up "Wonder Egg Priority Good Parts" to try and watch this show, and I got a clip from Sarazanmai. So, gotta give UA-cam credit there
I’ve been waiting for this! :D
God the parallel world shit reminds me of another piece of media with bad parallel universe stuff that is also filled with nonsense: world's best indie rpg, YIIK! Wonder egg really is just magical girl site x YIIK with a budget
What is truly frustrating about this show is that you can see 12 ways it could have been better and they downright artfully dance around all of them. Hell, with Frill play up that she isn't human, we're used to robots being human like in shows so maybe lean into the fact she doesn't have proper emotions, a symbol of the Acca's hubris and arrogance. Done right it makes kicking a 14 year old down the stairs and later into a damn furnace 10% more bearable. But then Neiru kiboshes that idea so screw it. I haven't seen something careen this hard off the rails from solid to eh to legit bad in years, not mere disappointment but full on failure. This show sucks.
It's amazing how the promise of that first ep carried everyone along for so long, and how like, you could SEE the good show it could have been so clearly
Oh... Does shadows house get gross after season one... Oh no...
I've read all of the manga so far, and I don't think it does? (unless they hire the WEP guy to write the second season of the anime, lol) The art may sometimes be a bit overly detailed in ways that might be kinda eyebrow raising, but it doesn't really go anywhere offensive or morally questionable in terms of themes (at least so far)
Thank you for this!! And not just for the satisfaction of knowing that I’m not alone or insane in hating a show that everyone says is good when it is, on so many levels, horrible and gross and sexist and shockingly poorly-written.
I do hope that as time goes on more people will come around on Egg. Not because I want people to “hate” on the show, but because I really hope that more people will eventually be able to see all of the blatant sexism and homophobia that’s been baked into the show since the beginning. Especially if they’re people who review, analyze, and discuss anime regularly. Because it’s important to be able to recognize that shit when you see it!
To be fair the sexist shit came out only on ep 11 and 13. The 4th episode line was misintepreted because they cut a neiru's dialogue
I know this is a common talking point and all, but WEP is riddled with overt and latent sexism from episode 2 onwards. It runs way, way deeper than one scene in episode 4. We've already talked about it in the previous egg slushies.
@@Dula8207 So that's what the director said, but apparently in an interview the writer basically said his inspiration to write the show was... what the Accas said, that girl suicides are emotional and different from guy suicides and he wanted to write about it, so... seems there were some creative differences there...
It's the final EGG TIME!!! *epic 80's synths*
Ooohh yeah I’ve been waiting for this!
_She caused _*_problems_*_ with a male teacher at her last school._
Aw yeah, it's out!
So at 30:49 it wasn't clear that we were seeing Dead Ai's reflection, so for a moment I thought they'd flipped the girls' eye colors in addition to having different clothes, to help viewers tell them apart. Like, "Wow they've kinda shown their hand regarding how dense they assume the fans are." Either that, or it's not a reflection at all and somebody did a oops in the coloring department. Still, I'm haunted by the question of whether the creators think they're amazing, or if this whole anime has been an experiment in convincing people that a bad story is clever.
Yay! Just rewatched part 2, now we can finally put a lid on this dumpster fire 😂
anyone else getting a distinct Niel Breen feel from that photo of the writer? just me?
“…and feet.”
Feeeeeeeeen! XD
This was entire ride XD
That pill blister pack looks exactly like the ones I take for hearburn :V
Oh no she died from being TOO relieved of indigestion :(
This look like it was written like a “cadavre exquis”. One guy writes one episode. Then another came in to fuck the story as much as possible. Then another one continues with other ideas. It’s weird.
Anime Slushie coming to you from a parallel universe where everything is the same except that Big Macs don't have lettuce. And presumably, a slew of teen suicides over the lack of lettuce.
Fuck yes,,,,,,more hurting eggs with spells
OK THIS IS OFF TOPIC, BUT, I WILL SAY, HIGURASHI GOU IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN WEP I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WATCHED BOTH AND while higurashi gou (the new season) HAS PROBLEMS i promise its like. actually thought out and has decent intent. UNLIKE WEP. tho i can accept ppl not going for it.
what i CANNOT accept is people saying wep only got bad at the end. thank you for truly breaking down my favorite comedy of all time, aka all of episode 11 , but particularly the part where a little girl is screaming "no daddy no not the dark place!" while she gets shoved into a Floor Locker.
WEP fans: I can’t believe the special episode was half clip show and explained nothing!
Boueibu fans: first time?
Yo did Dan Schneider direct this anime.
I dont know if you guys watch good anime on here but if you do sonny boy is like. insanely cool
Haha we try to! There’s a few vids on here about shows we’ve liked like Lain and DGND. Also thanks for the rec, we’ll add it to the list! - Feen
Love your reviews. I just saw a great anime, Psychic Princess Tong Ling Fei. I think is from 2018 pr 2017. I know they are working on season 2.
Far better shows than this have run aground on the rock of parallel worlds, etc. This weird 'have their cake and not have it creepy' thing at the end. Ugh.
I was willing to forgive all of the problems that this series has, as long as the ending was AT LEAST okay/acceptable. But no, it was shit, so I just gave up. Horrible anime.