I’m not a fan of those coatings on the frame or under the cab. With the off-roading we do here in SoCal it will eventually get rubbed or sand blasted off. Yes a liner coating will last longer. But once it start failing it will completely peal off and in worst cases hold moisture. And that does not even account for the cost and extra work to install. In the areas we treated, the sand blasting of the desert is going to destroy any paint or liner anyway so I would rather do something that is easy and cheap to repair.
Great video - I'm looking at a gen 1 with only 77k miles but it was a Wisconsin truck and has pinch weld rust. Not sure if it's worth buying, but I'd hate for that to be the reason I don't pick it up, since it's pretty inexpensive.
Rust is your biggest concern with a Gen1. If there is rust on the pinch welds there may be rust inside the cab that you can’t see. The cab is not painted or treated on the inside. Under the cab, there are plastic cab seals to keep moisture out. As the truck ages those seals fail. If they fail and moisture gets in, the can rusty from the inside out and it’s an expensive repair. Check the cab seals before you buy. If they have failed, don’t buy. There will be a ton more hidden rust that will be a problem later
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Appreciate the feedback. I found one that only has 6 inches of pinch weld rust that I might buy instead. IT's a 2014 vs a 2011 and it has no penetrating rust except for that small portion of the pinch weld, which I can control. The other one I mentioned above is completely rusted across all rocker panels. I think it's better to spend the extra 3k for one that doesn't have a rust issue like that.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad So the raptor I'm looking at is a SCAB in blue with the top option package - needs the shocks rebuilt, but mostly rust free. He's asking 32k at 100k miles, 1 owner. Seems like a good price - your thoughts?
I always go by KBB and nada for values. Raptor prices fluctuate a lot and they have been on the high side for the last 2 years. So take that into consideration and plan your costs for the rebuild. Keeping in mind that if the shocks have rust, your rebuild costs can go up. Shops like forged offroad have good exchange programs for that and would be my first choice
Damn this ain't even rust... we have some vehicles in nyc that would fall apart if you looked at them to hard lol... I myself am a original gen1 owner, good work!
Yeah, this is rusty for the west coast. Not bad at all and One of the reason I was OK getting the truck. I’ve seen some of those rusty trucks you guys get in the rust belt.
For some of the stubborn rust, have you tried an angle grinder with a wire brush wheel or sanding wheel to knock that stubborn stuff off? Something with a bit more horsepower. I had pretty quick results on steel I was welding that was left out in the elements. Just got to be careful cause it's quick.
YeH, my hands are not what they were when I was younger and that was too much of a risk for me. I know it can work mush quicker but it’s also way more sketchy. So I stuck with the cordless drill. If it got too bad, I would have invested in a sand blaster first
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad theres rust but hasnt gone through. Ive wired brushed it and am por15 it. The skid plates were about as bad as yours if not worse, so ill be replacing those soon. Shocks are completely corroded and probably arent salvageable.
We got a video coming up on some great skid plates. We already posted them up on IG, but have a whole video dedicated on them. DM me on IG or shoot me an email and I’ll send you details on them and how to get them from Offroad Republic.
Hey man, just recently purchased a gen 1, and just saw a lot of the cab seals underneath are failing. There is almost 0 rust as this vehicle has been a pavement princess from the previous owner. I took a look at the cab itself and it shows no signs of rust. Should I be okay if I go through and put those fillings you talked about in the video?
When the cab seals fail, water gets trapped in that gap below the cab. You need to look inside that gap to make sure things are good. The rust develops from the inside. By the time you see it on the outside it’s too late. So confirm there is nothing. Maybe ass some paint in there or some kind of rust protection before covering them back up again.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Well petrol is $2 a liter and my truck seems to be getting an amazing 9mpg. The roads are small and spare parts impossible to find. Sooo... i fucking love it. My truck is a beast and it's the most awesome thing I've ever owned, they are going to have to bury me in that thing :)
It was a matter of cost. To get a decent sand blaster would have been a few hundreds. So had to weight our options. Spend the money or just tough it out an extra hour. Since it was just that front hardware that was bad, we elected to just tough it out rather than have another expensive tool in the garage I only use once.
I've noticed that here where I am from in Los Angeles our Gen1 Raptor has like no rust compared to your guy's raptor, how come your guy's raptor had rusted a lot more?
Great video man! Totally enjoying your rebuild, can’t wait to see what you do in future vids. Keep them coming!
Thanks
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad question for you, why not apply maybe a rhino liner or line-x to those high abuse areas?
I’m not a fan of those coatings on the frame or under the cab. With the off-roading we do here in SoCal it will eventually get rubbed or sand blasted off. Yes a liner coating will last longer. But once it start failing it will completely peal off and in worst cases hold moisture. And that does not even account for the cost and extra work to install.
In the areas we treated, the sand blasting of the desert is going to destroy any paint or liner anyway so I would rather do something that is easy and cheap to repair.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad makes sense.
Great vids but man you work your ass off. Can't wait to see the offroad vids.
We wanted a project. And it’s been very therapeutic working on this truck.
Nice job Helio!!!
Thanks
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad You guys are in the Lake Elsinore area? I’d like to check into your project truck sometime bud
Best way is Tacos and trucks meetups. First Tuesday of every month.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad No idea what that is but sounds like fun.
A local Guy runs the truck meets using Instagram SoCal tacos and trucks.
Great video
Thanks man
Hey man your a beast!! You tackle any job on your machines
Thanks man. We tackle what we can. We learned a lot from our last 2 offroad trucks.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoadthanks to you guys made me love the raptors again
My favorite “Roosh!” 😎
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Great video - I'm looking at a gen 1 with only 77k miles but it was a Wisconsin truck and has pinch weld rust. Not sure if it's worth buying, but I'd hate for that to be the reason I don't pick it up, since it's pretty inexpensive.
Rust is your biggest concern with a Gen1.
If there is rust on the pinch welds there may be rust inside the cab that you can’t see.
The cab is not painted or treated on the inside. Under the cab, there are plastic cab seals to keep moisture out. As the truck ages those seals fail. If they fail and moisture gets in, the can rusty from the inside out and it’s an expensive repair. Check the cab seals before you buy. If they have failed, don’t buy. There will be a ton more hidden rust that will be a problem later
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Appreciate the feedback. I found one that only has 6 inches of pinch weld rust that I might buy instead. IT's a 2014 vs a 2011 and it has no penetrating rust except for that small portion of the pinch weld, which I can control. The other one I mentioned above is completely rusted across all rocker panels. I think it's better to spend the extra 3k for one that doesn't have a rust issue like that.
Agreed
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad So the raptor I'm looking at is a SCAB in blue with the top option package - needs the shocks rebuilt, but mostly rust free. He's asking 32k at 100k miles, 1 owner. Seems like a good price - your thoughts?
I always go by KBB and nada for values. Raptor prices fluctuate a lot and they have been on the high side for the last 2 years. So take that into consideration and plan your costs for the rebuild. Keeping in mind that if the shocks have rust, your rebuild costs can go up. Shops like forged offroad have good exchange programs for that and would be my first choice
Damn this ain't even rust... we have some vehicles in nyc that would fall apart if you looked at them to hard lol... I myself am a original gen1 owner, good work!
Yeah, this is rusty for the west coast. Not bad at all and One of the reason I was OK getting the truck. I’ve seen some of those rusty trucks you guys get in the rust belt.
For some of the stubborn rust, have you tried an angle grinder with a wire brush wheel or sanding wheel to knock that stubborn stuff off? Something with a bit more horsepower. I had pretty quick results on steel I was welding that was left out in the elements. Just got to be careful cause it's quick.
YeH, my hands are not what they were when I was younger and that was too much of a risk for me. I know it can work mush quicker but it’s also way more sketchy. So I stuck with the cordless drill. If it got too bad, I would have invested in a sand blaster first
Were you prepared for all of this work and rust when you were buying the truck or was it more than what you expected?
We knew buying a rust belt truck it was a risk and we were ready for it. More surprised it wasn’t worse.
I just got a gen 1 raptor shipped from ohio sight unseen with only 40k miles....LOTS of rust
Yep. Basically guaranteed. How were the cab corners and cab seals?
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad theres rust but hasnt gone through. Ive wired brushed it and am por15 it. The skid plates were about as bad as yours if not worse, so ill be replacing those soon. Shocks are completely corroded and probably arent salvageable.
We got a video coming up on some great skid plates. We already posted them up on IG, but have a whole video dedicated on them. DM me on IG or shoot me an email and I’ll send you details on them and how to get them from Offroad Republic.
Hey man, just recently purchased a gen 1, and just saw a lot of the cab seals underneath are failing. There is almost 0 rust as this vehicle has been a pavement princess from the previous owner. I took a look at the cab itself and it shows no signs of rust. Should I be okay if I go through and put those fillings you talked about in the video?
When the cab seals fail, water gets trapped in that gap below the cab. You need to look inside that gap to make sure things are good. The rust develops from the inside. By the time you see it on the outside it’s too late.
So confirm there is nothing. Maybe ass some paint in there or some kind of rust protection before covering them back up again.
Great vid thankyou could you please post a link for some aftermarket 2011 supercab underbody cab seals. My searches come up empty. Thanks
Have not found any good ones myself. I’m going to be replacing mine here soon so once I find some, I’ll post them up and do a dedicated video
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Thanks for the reply I look forward to the video. Hope to do some trails here in the south of France.
Oh wow man, how is it driving a raptor in Europe
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Well petrol is $2 a liter and my truck seems to be getting an amazing 9mpg. The roads are small and spare parts impossible to find. Sooo... i fucking love it. My truck is a beast and it's the most awesome thing I've ever owned, they are going to have to bury me in that thing :)
🤣🤣 I know the feeling.
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Why no PB Blaster on all the hardware
It was a matter of cost. To get a decent sand blaster would have been a few hundreds. So had to weight our options. Spend the money or just tough it out an extra hour. Since it was just that front hardware that was bad, we elected to just tough it out rather than have another expensive tool in the garage I only use once.
Great but I think it’s green ☘️
What do you mean?
I mean to say I think it’s green lime green 😃
Just oil the frame like a salad and let the dirt/sand do its part 😎
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LIMEGREEN 🤑
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I've noticed that here where I am from in Los Angeles our Gen1 Raptor has like no rust compared to your guy's raptor, how come your guy's raptor had rusted a lot more?
If you watched the beginning of the video, you would see why.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Oh! was it because it was from Ohio?
Yeah. Ohio is still part of the rust belt and why this truck has soo much rust
Rust city. 😥
So far we’ve gotten lucky. Mainly surface rust. Though the intercooler brackets did put in a fight