Rhizomatous Tall Fescue (RTF) - BETTER Than TTTF
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Rhizomatous Tall Fescue, also know as laterally spreading fescue, has proven to be just what I need in my backyard. Life changes and preferences change, so let's see what this RTF can do.
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I seeded a section of RTF back in Oct 2022. This spring it's come in real good. Super thick, it also seems to be very drought tolerant, going back to last summer. I am betting it's going to be even better this summer. So, it seems to me RTF takes awhile to establish, but once it does, it makes for a very hearty and great looking lawn.
I agree that establishment takes some time. It is excellent grass.
Any noticeable spreading in the RTF? Thanks for the great videos
Im going back to RTF, ordering 4 bags tonight! The amount of fungicides and water im putting down is insane. I only applied propiconazole maybe 3 times in 3 years when using RTF seed, and my water usage was 15k gallons lower per month.
It’s excellent Fescue and the cultivars just seem to get better.
Great video. Thank you! I have overseeded my GCI TTTF front yard with Barenbrug RTF based on the health and quality of an area I seeded last year (both areas about 10k sq ft). This year my RTF grass never went dormant, never had fungal issues, is noticeably thicker and less “thatchy” as my front yard. I’m excited to see how it performs in the ovesrseed and hoping that it holds up better year on year in my snow-belt New York winter.
Oh yeah! I love hearing the RTF success stories. With the steady rising cost of seed I’m hoping the RTF will help eliminate the need for overseeding. I’ve seen it to be more disease tolerant so here’s hoping.
Another great video. Thanks. I'm in Maryland and I'm going to go with rtf for my backyard renovation this year. Looks great in your backyard. Thanks for the informative videos. Keep them coming!!
My pleasure. RTF can be a diva but it’s great once established. I’d love to hear about your progress.
You could definitely give a class in editing as well as grass seed. I'm always impressed how you faze a scene out and another in. I always tune in when people talk about Fescue that's basically all I cut around here. Sometimes I have to treat some bare spots in customers yards so this is interesting ✔️💯💪🏽
Thx Big Son! Although RTF doesn’t aggressively spread like some warm season grass, I will take as much as I can get because I’m tired of annual overseeding. I really hope to see some evidence of spreading by Spring 2023.
@@GirLzLawn Gotcha that's one thing I'm learning that sometimes it takes a minute to see the results ✔️💯👍🏽
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I'm next door to you in Palmyra, VA (outside of Charlottesville) and new to the area. My new construction "lawn" is just red clay dirt right now. Planning to get some Super Turf RTF after watching your video and will sow this September. A few questions...Did you start with new construction yourself? If so, what kind of soil amendments did you add to get the soil ready for the seed? I'm thinking pellet lime to raise pH, till in some compost for organics, level with topsoil, spread seed, rake it in, cover with straw over the Winter. Thoughts?
Thanks!
@@keithcovington7176 hi there. I started with sod on a new construction lawn. They didn’t lay top soil so I had to work to amend the soil over time. I used biochar, Humic acid and seaweed. Your plan sounds good but I would try to avoid the straw. Most can carry weeds and it inhibits germination. I would use peat moss instead.
@@GirLzLawnThanks for the response! Wouldn't peat moss lower the pH of my soil? Should I maybe add additional lime to balance it?
@@keithcovington7176 potential reduction is possible but peat moss adds organic material as well. Better than adding weeds. The lime may help.
@@GirLzLawn Thank you!
I've been looking for tips on growing grass in the Richmond area and this was just what I needed! Can't wait to overseed with some RTF this fall!
Awesome! Checkout my recent shorts that show the plugs I have been growing. Love the lateral spread Fescue. 👍🏽
I can't wait to try this out, its in my garage ready to go!
Looking forward to your updates. 👍🏽
Whoa this was a class in itself I learned a lot especially the disease resistance. You have turned that house into a gem.
RTF has been around, but I think the cultivars have just gotten better. Mixing different types of cool season grasses is fine and many people do it but if I can stick with Fescue, that is just better for my area.
Outstanding video and information took you’re advice and purchased the brand you recommended, it sprouted in the shortest time than any seeds". I used previously. Amazing! You are my go to for Lawn advice.. thank you…
Looks great! I appreciate your patience in showing us the progress over time.
It’s been interesting to watch this grass. In just a year’s time it seems the cultivars are improving or either I’m really learning something from all of the hard lessons 😂 🙏🏽
I searched United Seed because that's the type I've used the last two years. I ordered several of their tttf blends, three of which is in the first one you used. It germinates in 5 day's. I have tried several various fescue brands, Seedsuperstore, Jonathon Green, etc. So far, I like United the best, the Seedsuperstore is also good, but, more expensive. My main issue I have, with no matter which one I use is fungus, grey leaf spot and brown patch. What a battle! Your lawn really looks awesome. Good video info. Thanks, John, Indiana
Thank you. I had a similar experience with the seed companies. Used Seed Super Store before Seed prices went through the roof.
Awesome journey and explanations
Thank you 🙏🏽
New subscriber , great video keep up the great work!! Seen this video on the other guys channel and love all the info !! Thanks
Hi Robert! Thank you for coming over to the channel. Look forward to your feedback on the videos.
I have the Super Turf II and mines has spread pretty well which I was concerned about during the Spring. Mines has 10% KBG so hard to tell if it was the RTF or the KBG.
I have a project for the fall which I will be expanding my flower bed area into all grass. Also a DIY underground irrigation digging trenches 🥴. I will be overseeding and already excited about next year. United Seeds is legit stuff 👍🏼Nice video!
Oh nice! I would venture to say it might be the KBG that is spreading lol, but who knows right? I have been happy with United Seed.
Been waiting a year for this video! Congratulations!
Yeah? This grass germinates relatively fast but that’s about the only thing it does fast. I think it will ultimately be worth the wait though.
@@GirLzLawn You're the first person I've seen that consistently shows what happens over times longer than a month. I find that very helpful in setting my expectations. Thank you!
@@BelowAverageSwardMan My pleasure. Very happy that it’s helpful.
I’ve been laying down plugs of regenerate TTTF and it appear to spread. With this being said, my backyard will be renovated with it. Got my seeds from Twin City
Very cool
Very interesting great demonstration I enjoyed watching today.
Appreciate ya Lynette 😊
I finally found the right seed for my lawn from your youtube.
I tried almost everything.
Next spring I will buy seed from united seed.
I live in Centreville VA.
What city u live in ?
I'm in the Richmond area. I have really loved the RTF in my yard. It's tough and has held up to my dog damage much better that the TTTF did.
Your grass is beautiful! I got TTTF from GCI and it is darker and thicker blades and gawd I love it!!!!!!
Thank you. Yeah Pete sells some good grass 👍🏽
dull mower blades cause brown ragged grass tips which increases risk of fungus damage.
Yep. Absolutely. I sharpen bi-weekly but still, things happen.
Thanks!
Appreciate you. ☺️
Your lawn looks good! Its thick. Mine is thinning out. Got some fungus. I'm going to just ride it out until fall. I did put down disease Ex in areas that was hit with fungus last year. Got fungus in a different area. It never ends.🙁
Thx Grace. Yeah, it’s pretty thick and just one more overseed should do it for me. Never ends.
That really is the best grass type
So far so good 🤙🏽
I’m seeding my lawn for the first time in a new house. Which blend would you recommend? Or course I could over seed another year.
I 100% recommend the snapback RR rescue blend from UnitedSeed.com (code: GirlzLawn)
@@GirLzLawn That domain is for sale.........
I love your lawn
Well thank you David :)
I live in North Carolina
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We need an update this spring
Sure thing 👍🏽
Great video.. thanks for sharing.. Just curious, for Super Turf I LS Tall Fescue Blend, how would you describe the color? Dark green or lighter? thanks
Thank you. Definitely dark! 😉
Could you show stages of growth from seed to full aged turf
Howdy. Wellllll, I'm too far in start that type of trial, BUT, I will be seeding the backyard of my new lawn, so it may be possible. The caveat is that I won't be doing that until Fall 2023.
Is there any difference in the care and maintenance vs regular tall fescue ?
Thanks for your reply
@@dwightmena9458 RTF needs a lot of attention in the first month for establishment. If you don’t stay on top of the watering it really seems to affect RTF more than TTTF. Once RTF is established it really is strong and holds up well to traffic.
Have you tried titan Rx tall fescue? I overseeded we with this brand and so far I'm very impressed with the result ( location is rural Georgia) I had to increase my watering at first but after my third mow the leafs became stronger and now I'm back to my regular three times a week watering guide! Last but not least the RTF is doing well
Hey. No, I haven't tried the Titan. Sounds interesting though. I think I'm going to stick with the Super Turf LS for any more overseeding that I do in this house. I'm hoping to move out within the next 2-3 years and who knows what I'll be trying at that point.
I think spread will be slow. If you can make what I did years ago and have a test plot out of 2x8 boards about 3 feet wide and 5 feet long or whatever dimension ypu can. Start grass in middle or outer edge and leave the other area open or do strips of grass and see how they fill in. Then you can use test plot for plugs. That is what I did for my dog spots with kbg.
I think it will definitely take at least a full season before any type of spreading is noticeable. Maybe more.
Hi my name is Dennis I really appreciate your advice, where can I get this seed and which one
The type will depend on your area. If you call United Seeds they can recommend the best option for you. The site is unitedseeds.com and you can use discount code: GirlzLawn
Thanks for that video I was thinking about overseed with Rtf
What’s the verdict?
@@GirLzLawn im do it. I got jaguar 4G Turf-type tall fescue in my front yard. Im overseed that with RTF
@@TerranceSTL Cool. Looking forward to updates 👍🏽
@@GirLzLawn I send more pictures afterwards on IG
Getting ready to try to establish my front yard with Rhizomatous fescue. I’ll be using Titan RX.
Hope you love it!
I live in the Atlanta area, and I just really hate bermuda. I am suppressing my common bermuda weed front lawn with triclopyr while I start seeding next weekend after doing core aeration and scarification of the old turf. i've had great luck in the past doing winter overseeding first with annual rye and then with perennial rye. I hope to take it to the next level with a drought and heat tolerant spreading fescue. thank you
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@@richtfan Seems that one either loves or hates Bermuda.
haha. absolutely. when it's manicured, people love it. but i don't know many people who can or want to do what it takes to manicure it. my issue is that I want green in the winter.@@GirLzLawn
yu sure know your stuff girl girls rule
Thank you. Learning new things daily :)
How did the RTF do in the fall? I have used RTF the past 2 years. From talking with the seed companies, most of the RTF takes 6 months to a 1 before it will spread. It has to establish itself vertically before it can spread. I’m wondering if a fall nitrogen blitz would help it spread once it’s established , kinda like it helps KGB spread and fill in.
It is still looking good but no real noticeable spreading. Once the grass kind of spreads and covers the surface it’s tough to get in there to check for lateral spreading. I’ve never done the blitz but I guess it could work.
I am late to finding you. Thank you for sharing this information. I will be making a purchase. I live in Maryland.
I have a question about how you created the boarder from your fence in the backyard. I would like to do that for the ease of cutting and the look. I have a small backyard on a corner lot.
Hi. Basically I used a no-dig border from Lowe’s and then just put down weed blocker fabric and filled with mulch. Honestly, still a bit of maintenance keeping the weeds out.
Liked and commented to trick the algorithm. :)
😂 Your efforts are appreciated 🙏🏽
Just planted a test of RTF indoors, similar to your plugs, and at one week the No Net is tubular, like a fine fescue. I've provided plenty of water, per your discovery, so that isn't a variable. There are no blades yet at 2.5 inch height. In your observances, does that seem normal? I would think the "blade" would take shape early on.
Has there been enough sun exposure?
@@GirLzLawn they get direct afternoon sunlight.
When you seeded the RTF how many times a day to you water, length of the of water cycles and how many days a week once the grass is mature?
I watered 3 times a day for 15 minutes each time to keep the seed wet, but keep in mind the air temps were anywhere between 80° and 90°. Once the seed germinates I reduced watering to twice a day as needed for about 10-15 minutes, depending on temperature.
@@GirLzLawn Thanks I have 2 big akitas and have blue grass to repair the yard, but tur s brown alot quicker unless I want to drop 300 down to water enough in the summer. Are the blades of RTF thinner than normal fescue and how often do you need to mow it? Thanks for your videos
@@davidlindon99 The blades mature to about the same size as tall fescue. Mowing will depend on how much you are fertilizing for growth. Spring I mow every other day unless I use a plant growth regulator, which I do. Summer about once or twice a week and about twice a week in the Fall.
Thanks for the discount code! Do you know if the website shows the seed certificate anywhere? I can't find it.
You're welcome. I don't know about the certificate. ou may need to reach out to them on that one. They seem to respond quicker on Facebook.
@@GirLzLawn i figured. I'll update on what they say if I can get a hold of them. Thanks again 👍
@@GQ1776 Both blends I have used were Blue Tag certified but I can’t speak to the others. 👍🏽
Your blades are so thin! I have been adding 4th Millennium as overseed. From same place but not the mix. Blades come in huge and wiry. Looks like KY-31. Any advice?.
I wish I could help. I’ve been using the blends for the last 2.5yrs and have never had them come in thick.
@@GirLzLawn what blends do you use again? Would love to see some really good close ups. You are rocking it with your lawns. Thx for the response!
@@webmoore4353 The SnapBack and Super Turf LS I
What do you against KGB its the best
Nothing against it really, I just didn’t want to work with multiple grass types.
Do you have links to buys the seed?
I got this one - unitedseeds.com/product/super-turf-i-ls/ You can try the code Girlzlawn22 to see if it still works. If so, you get a 10% discount.
Great video, I have a question about when can I sow this fescue. I have a new yard were the contractor put down contractor seed and it is fading away. Can I sow that kind of grass seed now in April on top of it?
Hi. I think it’s a little late to seed because the grass won’t have a chance to mature.
So what did you figure out on watering the ls 1. I put down about a month ago trying to make sure I’m not overwatering or underwatering
Nothing specific. Water 3 times a day for 10-15 minutes each time until it germinates then I switched to regular watering.
Should I be worried the bags that arrive look nothing like yours ?
My bag is a 25lb bags. I believe depending on the size the packaging may look different. Just make sure the label reflects what you ordered.
I got the 50 I believe, it says “no net “ on a tiny tag but no mention of seed used and in an unlabeled white bag.
@@sueypaintballer So, yes, you bags will likely look different than mine. I have only gotten the 10 and 20lb bags and they both look different from each other. The No-Net is a Lateral Spreading Fescue but you should have had a blue tag on it showing the typical weed/crop content, which should be 0% for both of those.
@@GirLzLawn whit tag very little print… but on the positive side i we r away for a week and came back to some germination !!! Also your old discount code from like august worked so thank you !!
@@sueypaintballer Fantastic! You are off to the races :)
Great video. I’ve been looking at the LS fescue for a while. Since the particular mixture you used is all LS, do you think the overseed frequency will be reduced? I’ve been on the fence with going with Bermuda due to the spreading qualities since TTTF seed prices are outrageous. I’m in the Transition zone so I could go either.
I’m hoping the overseed frequency will be less, but I really don’t know yet. I will tell you that the RTF is not going to spread as aggressively and as well as Bermuda. I do think it’s going to reduce overseeding some.
@@GirLzLawn thanks for the reply and keep us posted on how it goes.
@@Shunya0101 Absolutely!
What part of the country do you live in?
Virginia
I’m a bit confused
So is it spreading or not? Why would it take a year to spread?
Hi. It’s growing but likely not spreading by Rhixzomes yet. The spreading is not as aggressive as warm season grasses.
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Thinking of I should try to overseer with it this fall
@@miltonenglish1679 If you do, you’re basically overseeding just like you would a regular Fescue. The added benefit is that as this RTF establishes, it will eventually be able to fill in bare spots that you may get in the lawn. Ideally that would mean less overseeding needed in the future.
Hmmm, I might want to try RTF. Over time will I have a thatch problem? Can I mow it 3 to 4 inches? I am in southern Calif. thx.
I can’t answer the thatch question. Per the seed that I use, it can be mowed as low as 2” and up.
@@GirLzLawn thx for replying.
So, how do you feel the plugs worked out in the end? I heavy overseeded RTF this year, including a small area I killed.off due to undesirables. Overall it came in well, but I have some patches that didn't come in well, from investigation it looks like I had a peat moss spreader incident in those spots. I went back and raked it out, but not confident it will come in well due to timing, and not babying it with water. With that considering pre-emergent and then trying to plug the gaps in the spring.
Thoughts?
I am in NoVA for reference.
The plugs were GREAT! The best thing is that you can still apply your pre-emergent if you are using plugs to fill spots instead of seeding. I use my Proplugger and found that putting 3 of the plugs in a hole from the Proplugger was perfect. Someone recently gave me a tip on specific pots to use for the plugs where as one pot will fit in the Proplugger hole. I will be trying the pots out in the Spring. I'm still chasing Poa Trivialis so I will definitely need to do the plugs again in the Spring.
@@GirLzLawn awesome, you just gave me hope
It is a TTTF
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