Is Tesla Sandbagging Model Y Refresh?

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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    Everyone knows it's coming, but when? Tesla has told us the Model Y refresh (codename project juniper) won't be coming until the end of 2024... but why the delay? and why wait? and are we in for a sneaky surprise sooner than we think?! 🤔
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  • @BertrandBesse
    @BertrandBesse 2 місяці тому +5

    Thanks for the video! One other thing: the Model Y had a intermediary refresh in China in October. 6 months later, still no sign of this refresh in the US or in the EU...

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +2

      Good point! I do wonder why they did that minor Y refresh knowing people would expect a full on M3 level upgrade 🤔 and as you say… where is it for the rest of the World? 🤷‍♂️

  • @Radium3D
    @Radium3D 2 місяці тому +3

    It really depends how many parts they have in stock for the previous model design. I think early next year is a reasonable time frame for the Y refresh.

  • @evdave528
    @evdave528 2 місяці тому +2

    Well done, I agree a new Y is in the works but care must be taken to avoid the Osborne Effect.

  • @newmotionpictalentinc9577
    @newmotionpictalentinc9577 2 місяці тому

    Awesome info...thank you

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 2 місяці тому

    Yep they have it all going on even Ash Trays 👌

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 2 місяці тому

    Cheers mate

  • @christophec.482
    @christophec.482 2 місяці тому +1

    What about HW 4 in Europe ?

  • @fredhearty1762
    @fredhearty1762 2 місяці тому +4

    Free cake for life is perfect. I'll trade in my 'old' Model Y... in a heartbeat.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +2

      Flipping good cakes too.. red velvet sponge with buttercream Tesla cakes 😋

    • @fredhearty1762
      @fredhearty1762 2 місяці тому

      @@TeslaJigsaw Where do I sign?

  • @garyrooksby
    @garyrooksby 2 місяці тому

    Great vid, Will

  • @neilbrandon
    @neilbrandon 2 місяці тому +2

    Let’s hope turning circle reduced to

  • @philongnguyen7604
    @philongnguyen7604 2 місяці тому

    i dont understand. is model Y juniper already out for Europe ? if so, why any youtube in come out yet?

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      No, it hasn’t been released or revealed yet… but we know it’s coming

  • @carstenschmedes6599
    @carstenschmedes6599 2 місяці тому

    Nice video & voice! Subd!

  • @PaulRossiter-el3gu
    @PaulRossiter-el3gu Місяць тому

    Interesting that the new colours (Midnight Cherry and quicksilver are quoting delivery for June July - does this coincide with a July launch for Juniper with these new colours whilst not actually announcing a launch is due? I’ve hedged my bets and placed an order for quicksilver 👍

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  Місяць тому

      Hmm, I like your thinking! Either way you’re getting a stunning car! 👍

  • @peteramey9385
    @peteramey9385 2 місяці тому +3

    They could add Working wipers on Autopilot ??

    • @roxxor3
      @roxxor3 Місяць тому

      Dont be silly. That would be too much. But tbh im just missing the Option to change the Display layout so i can buy a Instrument cluster and dont see double numbers

  • @rastislavvarga9908
    @rastislavvarga9908 2 місяці тому +2

    I would trade off rear seat screen (who needs it these days? Look at Renault Scenic solution) for keeping stalks (btw, having stalks and physical buttons will affect EuroNCAP score in near future).

    • @jimtoomey9522
      @jimtoomey9522 2 місяці тому +2

      Clearly you do not have rug rats infesting your home… that rear screen is a sanity saver. 😀

    • @motoringnation
      @motoringnation 2 місяці тому

      Isnt it too low down for them to watch anyway? Ipad is far easier and better. Our kids will have their feet all over that screen placement. @@jimtoomey9522

    • @C4H6As
      @C4H6As Місяць тому

      This was exactly my thought when I saw the new M3 for the first time. They take away something that works perfectly for anyone and add something nobody had asked for. Dumb decision. Many testdrives will end with the conclusion that this won´t be the new car.

  • @raymondwong2521
    @raymondwong2521 Місяць тому

    As long as they keep the stalls for signals, have separate control buttons for rear side mirrors and AC control, as long as they don't have panel gaps anymore, as long as they keep lumba support adjustments for both front seats, as long as there is a privacy cover for cargo area of the trunk area, as long as they add a small screen behind the steering wheel or HUD for the driver, as long as they don't use the stupid yoke steering wheel, the next Model Y should get my vote. Oh, one more thing, as long as they make sure this time we can achieve the officially stated range per full charge.

  • @worldtrav72
    @worldtrav72 2 місяці тому

    They need to wait until interest rates come down later this year before they can raise prices significantly. They are good this year as the competition doesn’t have NACS and most won’t have Tesla SC network usability either.

  • @IndigenousEarthling101
    @IndigenousEarthling101 2 місяці тому

    I think future mass market Tesla vehicles may launch very quietly with little fanfare, similar to the Model 3 refresh. Tesla may actually stockpile their next generation platform vehicles before launch to ensure immediate availability. They also don't want their competitors to copy any technologies revealed in one of their launch events.

  • @dallasdrew2390
    @dallasdrew2390 2 місяці тому +14

    The biggest improvement to the new model Y will be CATLs new M3P battery.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +2

      Will it have any effect on range & performance though?

    • @dallasdrew2390
      @dallasdrew2390 2 місяці тому +3

      @@TeslaJigsaw CATL have said around 10-15% improvement in range you can watch videos about it here on youtube.

    • @adamdarrow
      @adamdarrow 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TeslaJigsawand battery longevity.

    • @krause79
      @krause79 2 місяці тому

      Senching LFP CATL battery that is. Awarded best battery tech in Europe.

    • @Hitman006xp
      @Hitman006xp 2 місяці тому +1

      hopefully. Would be a bit disappointing if it still had the same old 60kWh CATL or BYD LFP pack. I really hope for a next gen CATL Pack. My 2023 Y RWD get's 12 Months old at the end of may. My plan is to keep it till Juniper arrives.

  • @scott.n.pearson
    @scott.n.pearson 2 місяці тому

    I think Juniper could have brake-by-wire, steer-by-wire and/or suspension-by-wire.
    Weight savings and maintenance too, liquid free car.
    That may delay a bit and test before $25k car.
    Let's see.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      It could do, but I don’t believe Tesla will go to so much trouble. 48v architecture won’t be coming to the Y either (unless they properly redesigned the entire thing?! - doubtful & not necessary imo. Let’s see I guess!

  • @Vangelis614
    @Vangelis614 2 місяці тому +4

    I would add ‘The BYD factor’ in support of your argument.

    • @patrickhornacek8593
      @patrickhornacek8593 2 місяці тому

      BYD doesn’t have a car that competes with the Model Y? 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @nt5898
      @nt5898 2 місяці тому

      @@patrickhornacek8593 BYD Song L

    • @patrickhornacek8593
      @patrickhornacek8593 2 місяці тому

      No one buys that instead of a Model Y.

    • @nt5898
      @nt5898 2 місяці тому

      @@patrickhornacek8593 i have 2023 MYLR, i would buy that car and 15k cheaper

  • @joeholbrook7560
    @joeholbrook7560 2 місяці тому

    Rumors of Tesla china cutting shifts could also be covering some retooling in the factory

  • @Welton_Family
    @Welton_Family 2 місяці тому +3

    Love the show and your accent. Much better than American English accents of most Tesla shows.
    I highly recommend others listen to the show at 2x speed 😂

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for that… I had no idea what noise I made till starting UA-cam! 🤦‍♂️😂 I’m trying to calm it down a bit! Me at 2x? That’s just a mess!!! 😂

    • @peteroshannessy8927
      @peteroshannessy8927 2 місяці тому +1

      Yep 2x is fun, Will sounds like a Turkey gobbler. I often listen to videos at 2x too.

  • @paulmw8888
    @paulmw8888 2 місяці тому

    Great to have a versatile SUV, but after test driving both, I honestly enjoy the low ride and handling of the model 3..

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      My personal preference too, despite the Y would be much more practical as our only family car

  • @anthonytrotman8999
    @anthonytrotman8999 Місяць тому

    Heard it’s a battery availability issue

  • @alexcumbers
    @alexcumbers 2 місяці тому +1

    The model Y could be waiting on the improved CATL battery and potentially 48v architecture.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +1

      I believe only new Tesla vehicles will benefit from 48v, too complex to switch existing cars/supply chains.

    • @alexcumbers
      @alexcumbers 2 місяці тому

      @@TeslaJigsaw That's reasonable assumption. A lot of change for perhaps small gain, perhaps. Maybe when supply chains ramp up for the next refresh in a few years time.

  • @flyshacker
    @flyshacker 2 місяці тому

    The extras could be 48v electrical system and steer by wire.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +1

      Would be great, but doubt they will go to such extremes. I believe Elon has said all new future vehicles will include those things, but too complex to change any current offerings. We shall see!

    • @flyshacker
      @flyshacker 2 місяці тому

      @@TeslaJigsaw I think you are probably right. It would be a huge stretch for a refresh vehicle. Very unlikely - but still possible I suppose.

  • @peteroshannessy8927
    @peteroshannessy8927 2 місяці тому

    Bondage wrap! Haha😂

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 2 місяці тому

    Afternoon mate
    First Look at Tesla Autopark and FSD V12.3.2.1 - Update 2024.3.6
    Dirty Tesla

  • @stoner27th
    @stoner27th 2 місяці тому

    This year? maybe. Next year? definitely.

  • @jackcoats4146
    @jackcoats4146 2 місяці тому +1

    I would love a new Y but want the vehicle to home charging available... I would trade in my current model Y!

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      Sounds like a job for… Powerwall! 🔋🙂

    • @jackcoats4146
      @jackcoats4146 2 місяці тому

      @@TeslaJigsaw We just got 3, but it is actually cheaper to buy a Cybertruck than powerwalls just for the batteries (80K for a Cybertruck at 123KW, and $11K * at least 9.1 or 10 powerwallls for $110K just for the powerwals)

  • @thomas20021234
    @thomas20021234 Місяць тому +1

    Dont think it will come out soon because they still have lot of stock. I think still need to wait more than one year

  • @addict8229
    @addict8229 2 місяці тому

    I don’t think it’s safe to assume that the refreshed Model Y is going to be cheaper to produce. They will definitely find ways to cut costs but they will also be making improvements that will increase costs. The net result could be a vehicle that costs the same amount to produce but has a much more premium feel.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      I see your point, but Tesla reduce manufacturing costs like nobody else. I’d be shocked if they don’t do the same for Model Y despite the improvements

  • @brettkemmerer1310
    @brettkemmerer1310 2 місяці тому

    Very funny. Like your bondage model 3
    😂

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      Ha ha, thanks buddy! Really appreciate that 👍

  • @adamdarrow
    @adamdarrow 2 місяці тому

    Also hoping it gets V2H (PowerShare)

  • @DrDefore
    @DrDefore 2 місяці тому

    AMA competition. What is the gigatexas expansion going to be used for. You get to pick the prize and yes you do get to enter. It is taking shape as a fascinating glass structure with 3 unidentified reinforced concrete pits. Elon is up to something!!

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      What do you think? 🤔

    • @DrDefore
      @DrDefore 2 місяці тому

      How about 3 lines of model 2 box assembly on open display. Showing the world how cars should and will be assembled from now on. OK I wish this is what Elon would do. 😊

  • @i1pro
    @i1pro 2 місяці тому

    What does sandbagging mean ?

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому +1

      Sandbagging is a strategy of lowering the expectations of a company or an individual's strengths and core competencies in order to produce relatively greater-than-anticipated results

  • @2TOKE69
    @2TOKE69 2 місяці тому

    I want. model 2 Ludicrous. 😎

  • @DeadAimBowLP
    @DeadAimBowLP 28 днів тому

    Well. Damn. Literally just ordered it. :(

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  28 днів тому

      You won't be disappointed.. it's still awesome!

  • @ianthomas7161
    @ianthomas7161 11 днів тому

    Do you expect the Y refresh to have HW5?

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  8 днів тому

      Not necessarily... guess it depends on how quickly they refresh it!

  • @ricinro
    @ricinro 2 місяці тому

    demand is down because Tesla Osborned itself. People will wait for the upgraded M3/MY update.

  • @aec258
    @aec258 Місяць тому

    Air suspension!

  • @motoringnation
    @motoringnation 2 місяці тому

    Come on lets be realistic - we are decades away from not needing to press indicator stalks. You really need to call them out on moves like this.

    • @TeslaJigsaw
      @TeslaJigsaw  2 місяці тому

      I politely disagree. As it is Teslas indicate when travelling on advanced Autopilot, let alone the recent news that over 1 billion miles have been driven on FSD in the US (including auto indicators) This may take some people by surprise

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 2 місяці тому

    😆

  • @Galileo9.81
    @Galileo9.81 2 місяці тому

    Yeah,,,i am not in a rush and i will absolutely wait until the Juniper debut. By then, battery pack prices will come down also. Sorry Tesla, you will not sell any of your cars to my family until then😅

  • @tonys9413
    @tonys9413 2 місяці тому

    Sorry mate, you’re not in Europe (no matter how much you try), you’re in the British Isle. You guys decided to split and run ……….

  • @user-hz3eu5in
    @user-hz3eu5in 2 місяці тому +4

    Sandbaging? I hope they cancel it altogether. There is no need for a "new" model Y. Like there was no need for a new model 3, which got this bland, boring design now, change for the sake of change. Did not like new design of model 3 when I first saw it online, since then saw it a few times in real world and still don't like it at all. From what I can see, the only real improvement was to the suspension. Well, they could have easily done that to the existing car. IMPROVE existing model Y, don't make a new one, what is the point? What they could also do, is to introduce Grades. That way, a very practical, cheaper and a lot better Model Y can be made - no stupid glass roof, no overcomplicated AC system which does not even work really, etc

    • @jiggytito116
      @jiggytito116 2 місяці тому +10

      Agree to disagree 😅

    • @DeeKay1911
      @DeeKay1911 2 місяці тому +7

      So you haven’t driven one I can hear? I am swapping my 2021 Model 3 for a new 2024 model. Have both of them this week and the difference is way bigger than I first anticipated! It’s a feeling a full class above the old one to in quality and feel and way sharper design

    • @jimtoomey9522
      @jimtoomey9522 2 місяці тому

      You are clearly a profoundly unhappy person, Model Y is the best selling car in the world for many good reasons…
      Perhaps you should set aside your self hatred and test drive one ?😀

    • @clintabbott5327
      @clintabbott5327 2 місяці тому +1

      Oh dear.. Sooking much?

    • @randomtricksvideos
      @randomtricksvideos 2 місяці тому +4

      Definitely the unpopular opinion here