@@lloydyp * He shot station 7 correctly. When shooting the pair, one always shoots the outgoing bird first, the exception being station 4 where there is no outgoing target, as both are the same.
@@lloydyp * My comment was referring to him shooting a pair. But, as long as you brought up the subject of shooting singles,my question is, is that the English method for shooting their brand of skeet? He shot station 6 the same way as he shot station 7, high then low for singles, low then high for the pair. Just curious.
When skeet was created here in the US, you originally called "pull" for the high house, "mark" for the low house, and "birds" for the pairs so the people in the houses sending clays would know when it's their house' turn to launch a bird. But it hasn't been necessary in decades due to remote operation. So everyone now just say "pull" for everything.
@@clayswithrussell6513 We shoot American skeet here in NZ, no double on 4 but we shoot hi and low 8 with the repeat on low 8. You shoot gun up and gun starts look similar (one 1/3). Usual methods are sustained lead or push through depending on preference. Most people shoot 28gr here which is our max allowed weight for dtl and skeet.
@@fiacitro * You're shooting skeet the way it was first invented. The British must find shooting station 8 a little to dangerous or perhaps a bit to frustrating.
yeah that is strange. Certainly have never seen such a thing in the US. First I thought on station 1 it was for the auto-loaders not spitting shells out at your squad mates. But at station 7 it's on the left. Best I can figure is it's to prevent overswing of the barrel? That kind of overswing would probably get you kicked out of any club in the US
@@mossbrg5 * I'm inclined to think it's a safety factor. It keeps a shooter from pointing his barrel toward the gallery side of the skeet fields. The other stations the gun muzzle is pointing more outward away from any spectators or workers,etc.
@@mossbrg5 the range I worked had those fences, supposedly it helped with noise reduction as we had been hit a lot of noise complaints as a developer thought it would be a good idea to build house directly across from a range
@@Jolly56Roger yes and no. It depend. My gun master said that my guns are on low power level when pin hits cap. In my case bad experience with caps are only with eley, winchester, pionki(poland). From my perspective fiotchi caps were made from thicker metal shield... If I do black powder shells on used shell with fiotchi cap there is no puncture... Anyway it is only my experience.
I agree Charles Smith. As far as an original idea goes, doesn't the Schools Challenge count? I'm an American and no one over here is giving cars away to young sporting clays shooters. Is the monetization of youtube so lucrative that you guys have to snipe at each other? If so let me know and I'll get in the game.
The comment made on 6 regarding safety being the reason for shooting the double as low/high makes no sense to me. It's only bits off the incomer that could hit you, in which case it'd be more dangerous shooting low 1 or high 7 then anything off 6 surely?! Or hi/low 8 for that matter, where you get to taste the clay!
* You're correct. I don't think he shoots skeet very often. The only way one will be hit by fragmented targets on station 6, and for that matter station 2, is if one is shooting in a gale force type of wind. Competition shooters try to break their targets (whether single or double thrown targets ) at the same spot. This spot will vary depending on the station being shot, but each station will have a spot where the shooter will try to consistently break his target. Once you learn the game, it's a!l about being as consistent as possible. David would do better if he would stop his guns muzzle before calling for his target. He was creeping his barrel back toward the high house on station 2. A lot of shooters have trouble with this target, and keeping your gun barrel in the proper position, and then waiting to see the target before you try to engage that target is important for success. P.S. I noticed that David likes to point his finger on his left hand at the target in stead of just grabbing the forend in a more natural feeling grip. This has been a popular method for decades. Someone decided that you shoot better by pointing your finger. They believed that it instinctively enables one to hit the target much more consistently. I challenge that thinking. If anyone would care to try an experiment, I would ask them to take their shotgun and locate a small object a number of meters away. Using both methods of holding the forend, look at the small object, and then shoulder your gun ( hopefully your shotgun fits you ). See which method will be the most accurate. Which one feels the best. Perhaps, there will not be anyone that is better than the other. For me ,I found out it was just a fad, and didn't do what it claimed to do. But you sure don't look like an amateur, if you point your finger. Good manners don't you know, like holding your pinky finger out while drinking tea.
@@charlessmith4242 Agreed, the doubles should be broken in the same place as the respective singles for each station - you're really only learning two shots per station and combining them for the doubles. To me the reason for shooting low/high on the 6 and 7 doubles is that you need to break the going away bird first or the pair just doesn't make sense to the game - with 'high/low' here you'd end up breaking the incomer as soon as it leaves the trap to give you time to try and catch the departing low bird. Yes, starting too close to the high house on 2, having your gun start too high on high 2 and calling before you barrels are steady will cost you targets. Not sure why the english version changes the order of the singles on 7 though, but not on 6. I could understand if they wanted to make 6 and 7 a true mirror image of 1 and 2...but that doesn't seem to be the case.
@@fiacitro * I think you said it better than I did. I thought he shot station 7 the correct way, but I'll have to double check. Shooting that high bird quickly from either Station 6&7,as you mentioned, will result in clay fragments occasionally striking the shooters, particularly if there is a strong wind blowing in the wrong direction, and the target is shot to quickly. From a safety standpoint alone, shooting the out going bird first makes perfect sense. If shot the other way, the shooter would likely have to use a tighter choke on the second bird. I'm a little confused on the English method of skeet shooting. A guy up above (Lloyd P. ) said that David shot singles ( high then low ) on station 7, and I assume also on station 6, in the wrong sequence. I guess I'm just curious.
Fantastic for a beginner to be shown all the different disciplines . Great reviews inspire you to get into shooting .
I went to Orston shooting ground yesterday and was amazed at the setup they have, we had a brilliant day on the clays
Great video David. Thanks for explaining the details about the different stations.
Went for my first shoot yesterday and am in the process of getting my licence. Really looking forward to getting into this hobby!
Thats great news if you want any help why don"t you pop down to The Oxford Gun Company they will help you out lots.
Good ground with 2 skeet lay outs, shot there last week. Good consistent targets.
Never ever shoot skeet David but watching this video I would like to give it a go, many thanks again.
Y'all need to try/add station 8. It's the most fun out of all the stations.
Murica
Thought you had a choice on peg 4 and the shooter nominates what bird he/she is shooting first
Correct, he also shot skeet 7 the wrong way round. Great video.
@@lloydyp * He shot station 7 correctly. When shooting the pair, one always shoots the outgoing bird first, the exception being station 4 where there is no outgoing target, as both are the same.
@@charlessmith4242 No he didnt, the singles are shot low - high, he shot high - low.
@@lloydyp * My comment was referring to him shooting a pair. But, as long as you brought up the subject of shooting singles,my question is, is that the English method for shooting their brand of skeet? He shot station 6 the same way as he shot station 7, high then low for singles, low then high for the pair. Just curious.
@@charlessmith4242 I would suggest you watch my video on the subject which I think explains English skeet rather more clearly.
Skeet has always actually my favorite.
When skeet was created here in the US, you originally called "pull" for the high house, "mark" for the low house, and "birds" for the pairs so the people in the houses sending clays would know when it's their house' turn to launch a bird. But it hasn't been necessary in decades due to remote operation. So everyone now just say "pull" for everything.
So there is no Station 8 in English Skeet. Interesting, thanks.
You never mentioned about nominating your 1st clay on the pair at peg 4 David
Low 7 gets you every time. Easy one but we all miss it hahaha
Very nice 👌
What about station 8? I never realized American and English skeet were different.
Great content as usual
No Station 8 in English Skeet. Only on OSK. I take it American Skeet and English Skeet is the same? Same speed, distance, method of shooting it?
@@clayswithrussell6513 We shoot American skeet here in NZ, no double on 4 but we shoot hi and low 8 with the repeat on low 8. You shoot gun up and gun starts look similar (one 1/3). Usual methods are sustained lead or push through depending on preference. Most people shoot 28gr here which is our max allowed weight for dtl and skeet.
@@fiacitro * You're shooting skeet the way it was first invented. The British must find shooting station 8 a little to dangerous or perhaps a bit to frustrating.
I wish you would shoot some where that use orange flash clays, so we can see you actually shooting them 👓📹
Is that “fence” at station 1/7 a common thing on UK skeet fields? Never seen that before in the US.
yeah that is strange. Certainly have never seen such a thing in the US. First I thought on station 1 it was for the auto-loaders not spitting shells out at your squad mates. But at station 7 it's on the left. Best I can figure is it's to prevent overswing of the barrel? That kind of overswing would probably get you kicked out of any club in the US
@@mossbrg5 * I'm inclined to think it's a safety factor. It keeps a shooter from pointing his barrel toward the gallery side of the skeet fields. The other stations the gun muzzle is pointing more outward away from any spectators or workers,etc.
@@mossbrg5 the range I worked had those fences, supposedly it helped with noise reduction as we had been hit a lot of noise complaints as a developer thought it would be a good idea to build house directly across from a range
Don’t forget on peg four you have to nominate which double you are hitting first
No station 8???
Hey David,
An shoot singel second time wiem I nikt first shoot?
You single loaded shells on station 1 . . .
Do you have experience with Eley that their caps are easy to puncture?
I tested some shells and with fiotchi there is no problem with my old sxs.
Back on my S&Bs had a lot of misfire with fiocchi and its not the gun ,had no misfires with S&B.
@@Jolly56Roger yes and no. It depend. My gun master said that my guns are on low power level when pin hits cap.
In my case bad experience with caps are only with eley, winchester, pionki(poland).
From my perspective fiotchi caps were made from thicker metal shield...
If I do black powder shells on used shell with fiotchi cap there is no puncture...
Anyway it is only my experience.
Please try to use shotcam...
Yes or flash clays?
Orston isn't North, is Midlands at best. Nottingham is midlands
Really? Thats ur contribution?
Maybe 'smokey' pigeons can help...
So after copying TGS, you are now copying me. Have you tried an original idea?
don't worry lloyd, you and tgs' quality absolutely shits on this channel
Oh snap! Can't we all just get along?
* Isn't that the highest form of flattery.
I agree Charles Smith. As far as an original idea goes, doesn't the Schools Challenge count? I'm an American and no one over here is giving cars away to young sporting clays shooters. Is the monetization of youtube so lucrative that you guys have to snipe at each other? If so let me know and I'll get in the game.
@@jrussk * Good one.
21 on a skeet range for "Head shooting Instructor" doesn't seem very good
Let him know when you have as many medals as he does.
* He seems to shoot a lot of tower type targets. I suspect if he spent some time shooting skeet he would definitely improve his score.
The comment made on 6 regarding safety being the reason for shooting the double as low/high makes no sense to me. It's only bits off the incomer that could hit you, in which case it'd be more dangerous shooting low 1 or high 7 then anything off 6 surely?! Or hi/low 8 for that matter, where you get to taste the clay!
* You're correct. I don't think he shoots skeet very often. The only way one will be hit by fragmented targets on station 6, and for that matter station 2, is if one is shooting in a gale force type of wind. Competition shooters try to break their targets (whether single or double thrown targets ) at the same spot. This spot will vary depending on the station being shot, but each station will have a spot where the shooter will try to consistently break his target. Once you learn the game, it's a!l about being as consistent as possible. David would do better if he would stop his guns muzzle before calling for his target. He was creeping his barrel back toward the high house on station 2. A lot of shooters have trouble with this target, and keeping your gun barrel in the proper position, and then waiting to see the target before you try to engage that target is important for success.
P.S. I noticed that David likes to point his finger on his left hand at the target in stead of just grabbing the forend in a more natural feeling grip. This has been a popular method for decades. Someone decided that you shoot better by pointing your finger. They believed that it instinctively enables one to hit the target much more consistently. I challenge that thinking. If anyone would care to try an experiment, I would ask them to take their shotgun and locate a small object a number of meters away. Using both methods of holding the forend, look at the small object, and then shoulder your gun ( hopefully your shotgun fits you ). See which method will be the most accurate. Which one feels the best. Perhaps, there will not be anyone that is better than the other. For me ,I found out it was just a fad, and didn't do what it claimed to do. But you sure don't look like an amateur, if you point your finger. Good manners don't you know, like holding your pinky finger out while drinking tea.
@@charlessmith4242 Agreed, the doubles should be broken in the same place as the respective singles for each station - you're really only learning two shots per station and combining them for the doubles. To me the reason for shooting low/high on the 6 and 7 doubles is that you need to break the going away bird first or the pair just doesn't make sense to the game - with 'high/low' here you'd end up breaking the incomer as soon as it leaves the trap to give you time to try and catch the departing low bird. Yes, starting too close to the high house on 2, having your gun start too high on high 2 and calling before you barrels are steady will cost you targets. Not sure why the english version changes the order of the singles on 7 though, but not on 6. I could understand if they wanted to make 6 and 7 a true mirror image of 1 and 2...but that doesn't seem to be the case.
@@fiacitro * I think you said it better than I did. I thought he shot station 7 the correct way, but I'll have to double check. Shooting that high bird quickly from either Station 6&7,as you mentioned, will result in clay fragments occasionally striking the shooters, particularly if there is a strong wind blowing in the wrong direction, and the target is shot to quickly. From a safety standpoint alone, shooting the out going bird first makes perfect sense. If shot the other way, the shooter would likely have to use a tighter choke on the second bird.
I'm a little confused on the English method of skeet shooting. A guy up above (Lloyd P. ) said that David shot singles ( high then low ) on station 7, and I assume also on station 6, in the wrong sequence. I guess I'm just curious.
Dang! It's a wonder the English beat the Jerries..........
I really like this video and nearly all TSC videos but I can't help asking: What's with the '80s porn music?