Another nice video, thanks for the mention. +1 on what your man below says. I would attach all additional guidelines and pegging points with 3 mm shock cord loops @2" dia (coupla quid from Go Outdoors-climbing section or an old daysack?) larks - headed on so you can move your guys as you need them just something to take out that extra loading when the fly goes slack and then suddenly snaps taut under a sudden gust. Two extra guys does the job for me as they are enough for up to alpine elevations I reckon and they double up as lines to elevate your door into 'porch mode'. The man Dan himself has reported that people have confirmed 50mph wind survival on these tents! - I have experienced up to 30. After that I consider relocating to somewhere less windy as I value my sleep. Recent upgrade I've just made is to add a piece of 1.524m x 1m tyvek 1443r footprint from Spenic for just over a tenner weighing in at 133g!!! I always remove my inner so that during the day I can have lunch during the day underneath it as a tarp without worrying about getting my sleeping accommodation wet, I then put up the fly, put down the ground sheet and then put the inner in. With regards to how good the tent is, it's like everything, it depends on your intended use. If you are going mountaineering in it, I would not recommend it. If you are doing long distance thru-hiking in it, I would recommend the one person over the two person due to more chances of finding a suitable pitch because of the decreased footprint. For four season/high winds then in my personal opinion I reckon the hilleberg enan for a couple of hundred quid more is the way to go. In other news, my Cleveland Way part 1 is out if you fancy a brief look at my channel if you have a spare half an hour? Taking forever to do the editing though. I still have another couple of episodes to do as well. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks for directing me here via your other video. Yeah, going to have to think about this one now. I'd seen all the other glowing reviews, and thought it was something of a no brainer, given the seeming consensus, but have watched this and one other video mentioning how difficult it is keeping the fly away from the inner when attempting a more secure pitch, how finicky pitching is in general, and difficulty pitching due to a very large footprint. I haven't ruled it out yet, but it has given me pause for thought. Your honest review, is much appreciated, cheers!
There’s some chat on the trek lite forum about the bottom loops closest to the ground. Dan Durston suggests using elastic cord on these points. Some folk experienced tearing in high winds
@@escapeoutdoors. I’ve used it trekking in Sweden for a fortnight, around the highlands on various multi day treks and on the TGO Challenge for 10 nights. Easy to pitch. Light to carry and the vestibules are great for handling kit and cooking. Previously had a couple of lightweight tents but, at 70, headroom is an issue. Each to their own. I wouldn’t buy the DCF version and the 2p has a huge footprint so I only want it for when the dog comes along.
Thanks for the info …. Nice tent but as you said I’m going to stick to my 3 season and 4 season Lanshan 2 tents …. Did subscribe to your channel ATB Dave Mc
Got my Xmid this week and spent today trying all the different pitches and setups. I've added a couple of guylines to the bag for those side tie-outs if they touch too much, but as it was I had a good couple of inches clearance so I'll see how it goes in practice. I love the awning pitch though. And the inner is massive, you could easily sleep two adults in there. Also added a few extra pegs, I reckon 10-12 total if it was really windy plus it's good to have a few different kinds (needles, Y profile, etc) to suit the ground.
@@alangauld6079 so what’s your overall feeling on it. I had mine out today try staking the two extra guy lines on each side together. This is what I did. Still a cool tent for them long distance trails.
@@escapeoutdoors. My initial reaction was just that it's huge! I normally buy a 2 man because I like some space to spread out but, having seen this, I think I should have got the Xmid1 because it would have been enough. And finding space to pitch it might be difficult - certainly, on my last trip to the Cairngorms, I struggled to find room for my old Vango, I'm not sure how I'd have got the Durston down! But I love the different pitch options and the double vestibules and it's half the weight of my Vango. I'm using Durston's poles rather than trekking poles because I'll tend to use it as a base-camp and need the trekkers during the day. I'm really impressed with the poles, so light and pack really small. My next camping trip will be to Knoydart in late August, I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes in the wild. but I'm also aiming to do the WHW in the winter so will be using it with trekking poles for that.
ive had the 1p, the 2p, sold both, bought the 2p sold it again, and have just got the fly of the 2p to use as a tarp, ive found the xmid incredibly picky to how it is pitched, often allowing the inner and outer to touch, this is a pitching issue, but when is a pitch perfect? plan to use the fly as a tarp with a bivvy or stick to a trailstar/duomid,
Another nice video, thanks for the mention. +1 on what your man below says. I would attach all additional guidelines and pegging points with 3 mm shock cord loops @2" dia (coupla quid from Go Outdoors-climbing section or an old daysack?) larks - headed on so you can move your guys as you need them just something to take out that extra loading when the fly goes slack and then suddenly snaps taut under a sudden gust.
Two extra guys does the job for me as they are enough for up to alpine elevations I reckon and they double up as lines to elevate your door into 'porch mode'.
The man Dan himself has reported that people have confirmed 50mph wind survival on these tents! - I have experienced up to 30. After that I consider relocating to somewhere less windy as I value my sleep.
Recent upgrade I've just made is to add a piece of 1.524m x 1m tyvek 1443r footprint from Spenic for just over a tenner weighing in at 133g!!!
I always remove my inner so that during the day I can have lunch during the day underneath it as a tarp without worrying about getting my sleeping accommodation wet, I then put up the fly, put down the ground sheet and then put the inner in.
With regards to how good the tent is, it's like everything, it depends on your intended use. If you are going mountaineering in it, I would not recommend it. If you are doing long distance thru-hiking in it, I would recommend the one person over the two person due to more chances of finding a suitable pitch because of the decreased footprint.
For four season/high winds then in my personal opinion I reckon the hilleberg enan for a couple of hundred quid more is the way to go.
In other news, my Cleveland Way part 1 is out if you fancy a brief look at my channel if you have a spare half an hour? Taking forever to do the editing though. I still have another couple of episodes to do as well.
Cheers,
Matt.
Cool I’ll have a watch of the Cleveland way now
Thanks, really appreciate it.
Thanks for directing me here via your other video. Yeah, going to have to think about this one now. I'd seen all the other glowing reviews, and thought it was something of a no brainer, given the seeming consensus, but have watched this and one other video mentioning how difficult it is keeping the fly away from the inner when attempting a more secure pitch, how finicky pitching is in general, and difficulty pitching due to a very large footprint. I haven't ruled it out yet, but it has given me pause for thought. Your honest review, is much appreciated, cheers!
No worries glad to have given some help.
There’s some chat on the trek lite forum about the bottom loops closest to the ground. Dan Durston suggests using elastic cord on these points. Some folk experienced tearing in high winds
Yeah I understand why now. This tent isn’t the amazing tent all the UA-camers make it out to be.
@@escapeoutdoors. I’ve used it trekking in Sweden for a fortnight, around the highlands on various multi day treks and on the TGO Challenge for 10 nights. Easy to pitch. Light to carry and the vestibules are great for handling kit and cooking. Previously had a couple of lightweight tents but, at 70, headroom is an issue. Each to their own. I wouldn’t buy the DCF version and the 2p has a huge footprint so I only want it for when the dog comes along.
@@richardanderson9340 it’s funny you should say that I love my gossamer gear one. For exactly the same reasons
Thanks for the info …. Nice tent but as you said I’m going to stick to my 3 season and 4 season Lanshan 2 tents …. Did subscribe to your channel ATB Dave Mc
Got my Xmid this week and spent today trying all the different pitches and setups. I've added a couple of guylines to the bag for those side tie-outs if they touch too much, but as it was I had a good couple of inches clearance so I'll see how it goes in practice. I love the awning pitch though. And the inner is massive, you could easily sleep two adults in there. Also added a few extra pegs, I reckon 10-12 total if it was really windy plus it's good to have a few different kinds (needles, Y profile, etc) to suit the ground.
@@alangauld6079 so what’s your overall feeling on it.
I had mine out today try staking the two extra guy lines on each side together. This is what I did. Still a cool tent for them long distance trails.
@@escapeoutdoors. My initial reaction was just that it's huge! I normally buy a 2 man because I like some space to spread out but, having seen this, I think I should have got the Xmid1 because it would have been enough. And finding space to pitch it might be difficult - certainly, on my last trip to the Cairngorms, I struggled to find room for my old Vango, I'm not sure how I'd have got the Durston down! But I love the different pitch options and the double vestibules and it's half the weight of my Vango. I'm using Durston's poles rather than trekking poles because I'll tend to use it as a base-camp and need the trekkers during the day. I'm really impressed with the poles, so light and pack really small. My next camping trip will be to Knoydart in late August, I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes in the wild. but I'm also aiming to do the WHW in the winter so will be using it with trekking poles for that.
ive had the 1p, the 2p, sold both, bought the 2p sold it again, and have just got the fly of the 2p to use as a tarp, ive found the xmid incredibly picky to how it is pitched, often allowing the inner and outer to touch, this is a pitching issue, but when is a pitch perfect? plan to use the fly as a tarp with a bivvy or stick to a trailstar/duomid,
@@cuprajake1 yeah totally agree like I said in the vid this tent has been boosted by bullshit UA-camrs and I definitely don’t think it’s the best.