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As someone who is learning how to camp, i get so tired of youtubers constantly trying to convince me that the most expensive options for gear are the only way to go. that’s so stressful for a first time camper trying to build an inventory from scratch!! thank you for providing realistic and budget friendly options! this helped me out so much.
Most of those convincers are getting paid to do so. I wouldn't fault them too much. They are just trying to make a living. The best thing you can do for yourself I find is to constantly look at different points-of-view from UA-camrs, influencers, etc. Eventually, you will catch-on to what works best for you.
This is America, if something is more expensive it MUST be better! Seriously, I quite literally live with everything I own strapped to my motorcycle and have owned cheap Walmart tents all the way up to top end models. What I've learned is that it doesn't matter which tent you buy or how well you care for it, it's the zippers that eventually fail.
I've never had an issue with a Coleman tent leaking. Specifically the Sundome series. They have various sizes and are fairly budget friendly for someone just starting out. Good luck in your adventures!.
I’m only 70. Been tramping since 1978. Back in the day nan old timer said they didn’t have plastics. What I found some gear fails and some don’t. Didn’t have UA-cam back then So just suck it up, make sure you can be warm and stay fairly dry. I spent a few nights out under the stars and froze my balls of. If your trialing gear, take it out for a weekend so you don’t suffer to much. Sometimes you get a gut feeling that its not going to work. Just have a look how well made it is, double seamed, pick at the edges Generally I take fresh food for a weekend I take a light weight cutting board to cut the veggies and meat, I’ve been known to be an excllent cook in the hills we tramp in a group 2-6 and more people so we share or cooking shelter first aid. Don’t be afraid at worse we can loose our live, what away to go. Relay I’ve spent may sleepless night wondering how Huey is preforming. So if you are apprehensive don’t do it. I’m for New Zealand and we have got some of the most idyllic places I could have started back in myyyy dayyy. It’s still my day Cheers have a great day
I have an old North Face dome tent that has kept me dry about 50 years. I also have my first tent, a pair of WW2 shelter halves that together make a pup tent. I bought a big jar of Kenyon Recoat3 seam sealed from Campmor that has sealed over 10 tents, and is about half left. Works great. It is water soluble before it dries, and easy to clean the brush and drips. Note: There is something about tents that attract dogs and cats, so protect your drying sealed tent or you will camp with the odor of urine for a while. Also, get a good artist brush of the right size for your use to apply sealer. Experiment for size. Also, pitch a tent at least once a year in warm weather to get the kinks and folds out.
It really depends on how you look after your tent some people are rough with there gear and it doesnt last as long due to improper maintenance. Wow your 50 year old tent is impressive, you must look after your gear very well. 👍
A friend of mine, who is a very experienced backpaker, gave me good advice. ( We'll went backpacking together at Mt. Ranier Natl. Forest. I hadn't been backpacking for 30 years). He told me to set up my tent in my backyard and use a lawn sprinkler to test the tents water proofing. I kept the sprinkler on for an hour. Excellent advice. It also helped me to understand how to avoid pooling of water & proper undercloth placement.
Bought a "Coleman Go!" tent for $15 at Aldi 10+ years ago. It was my husband and I's only tent for many years but even now that we have a newer, bigger, fancier tent, the old Coleman still gets used regularly when we want a smaller/lighter tent or need an extra to outfit a friend. It's been sprayed with silicone-based waterproofing a few times over the years. I always made sure to saturate the seams thoroughly with the spray and have never had any issues with water seeping through. I do the same with our other tent and no issues there either. If you or your viewers want to save a few more $$, try just spraying the seams before splurging for the additional seam-specific product.
@@natalywithaY Get some Silicone and Mineral spirits, give it a mix and you are done, and you got enough for tens of tents or other objects for the same price.
Ive been doing the scotch guard trick for nearly a decade. I give my tent a spray before nearly every outing and i have a cheap Ozark Trails tent that has lasted me almost a decade now because of it. Take care of it and it will take care of you.
Thanks for the tip on the seams. Your info on materials and if they'll stand the rain was great 😊 I'd just like to say to anyone considering spraying a tent please wear a mask even outdoors. I sprayed a tent a few years ago outside in my garden. I thought that was plenty of ventilation, it turns out the product I used contained Ether.... Which the doctor told me when I was rushed to hospital with a terrifying reaction. Great stuff for waterproofing but please be careful I'd hate to see it happen to someone else.
I’ll be spraying my wheelchair cover in a few days, and I now know, I will not do it in the garage & I’ll be careful to wear a mask ❤ outside as I spray … you have definitely helped me, I have a lung disorder and I try to be cautious, thanks again.
I have the 2016 Big Agnes UL3 MTNGLO Tent. I bought it new in 2016 and used it a ton between 2016 and 2019. I then didn't use it once throughout the pandemic and just finally took it out for 2 weeks in the Lake district of the UK where it rains A LOT. A lot, a lot. I stayed dry the entire time. The water wasn't beading off, but it didn't soak through completely or leak in any way. It was damp, but zero leaks. For a 6 year old tent that I've never water proofed once, it handled the non stop rain for 4 straight days amazingly well. I recommend Big Agnes tents and sleeping pads to anyone.
Any tent that can stand up to the Lake District in the UK deserves high praise! I spent 18 months in the UK for work and know that when it rains, IT RAINS! Thanks for your comment!
A little tip I learned years ago: get yourself a larg syringe with a curved tip and use it to apply the seam sealer then brush it out. It makes it much easier and less messy.
i was a ScoutMaster for years.I agree those are excellent products.I also used Thompson water seal the original clear on seams with a ! in brush.Used on cheapo 7x7 dome tents they never leaked.For the body I did use the spray.
Thank you for the application tips, specifically, the reminder to seal around vents. I've got an NorthFace Rock 32 that's now keeping water out very well. Since waterproofing, it has withstood monsoon rain (more than 3/4" each night,) for 12 nights in a row.
I have had a Teton mountain 3 for almost 5 years now. Beyond my belief, I have never had water problems, other than myself tracking it in. Very proud of this tent.
Thanks, Joseph. I have heard that Teton makes a FANASTIC tent! Been meaning to get my hands on one, but it's been a busy summer. I have several other Teton products and have loved almost every single one of them!
My Eureka Spitfires (1 & 2) have been wonderful tents that have lasted me for years. The weight and size ($) were the big selling points, both were worth every penny.
A quick seam sealer you can find almost anywhere in an emergency is called shoe goo. It's an adhesive just like Sean sealer but a little thicker and works great but is harder to smooth. I wouldn't replace good seam sealer but if you need some and can't wait for delivery and don't have a store nearby that sells any it's a great option.
WalMart sells another heavy duty silicone spray by ATSKO with a bright orange cap. It works great; I have never had any tent leak after using and I don't bother with the seam sealer. The water almost flies off of the tent fabric.
Hey Randy! That's awesome! I don't remember seeing the ATSKO brand there, but I think I've used a few other products from that brand and have been satisfied. I'll have to look for it when my scotchguard runs out! The sprays make it so easy to waterproof! Definitely worth the time it takes to make sure your tent is 100% ready to go! Thanks for watching!
ATSKO is the old school stuff we used to use for boots when we were kids in the 1980's. Best stuff in history, short of thinning out a tube of pure silicone and spraying it on heavy.
Great video I have seam sealed using silicone and mineral spirits. Just get the tube of silicone squeeze it into a cup thin with mineral spirits to a syrup consistency and paint on the seams. I used a 1” brush to get a good area coated. We had a 27’ x 13’ wall tent that would leak like a screen door on a submarine after seam sealing and coating with the orange waterproofing spray from Walmart it stays nice and dry.
Thanks, James! That's awesome that you made your own seam sealer with silicone and mineral spirits. Now THAT is some serious DIY! "Screen door on a submarine" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Awesome you got it sealed up! Amazing what a difference it makes! Thanks for your comment!
I remember buying tents back in the day and they came with a seam sealer. I don't know why they don't know. Thank you so much for your advice! It is very much needed because I bought an ABCO sports tent and it says it's not safe to sleep in a heavy rain.
I had the worst experience with Gear-aid seam sealer. First, it would take DAYS to dry, but that is not the worst part, because once what it felt like an eternity before it looked dry, when folded, if by mistake the sealer touched itself, it to glued shut. I can't tell you the MESS I had to deal with trying to unfold a tent where seams are randomly glued together inside the tent. I had to use talc to remove any tackiness of the seam sealer, but the damage was done, I had seam sealer ripped everywhere, because of the mess I had to deal with.
I was camping in the beartooths with my geology class over the summer. I was in a north face storm break 2p tent and I could feel the water running under my tent but inside I was bone dry. Everyone else got soaked though. It was maybe my 15th night in the tent and it had gotten rain before so it was an absolute win for me
Awesome. Thank you. We just bought a $50 backpacking tent, and I am determined to make it work. We usually also put our tents under a tarp when possible, but I am not spending $800 on a tent. Bravo.
Carry a $1 polyethylene paint drop sheet with you JIC. If you miss spots waterproofing, then you can become 100% waterproof in a minute for the night for a sawbuck and four or five gem clips. Then when the tent dries out, respray with the silicon waterproofer. I usually respray every year or two on my first spring outing. You have some dead time in camp so might as well spray it at 10am when the dew dries if you're in the same camp for two days. $6 can and 5 minutes a year is the cost of keeping a cheap tent alive for years.
Was at a festival last weekend and it was the first outing for my Vango Soneva air 550xl. The Saturday night was monsoon like conditions according to others at the festival. Many other tents where completely flooded. I slept through the whole thing and no water penetration in our tent.
I thank you for this video! We are tent shopping. Fam of 4 that wants plenty of room for us + plenty of room for whatever we bring. It has been SO HARD finding a tent that has all the specs we want. •Has a screen room. •Enough room in the sleeping area so the screen room does not need to be used for a sleeping area. •Waterproof (at least mostly) in case we are caught out in the rain. •Under $1000 USD. •Something we can use for hunting public land + camping trips to a park. The tent I was eyeballing that looks *almost* perfect is the Gazelle T4 Plus Hub Tent. I like everything about it except that the sleeping area is made for 4 people (plus another 4 in the screen room). I think everyone knows that whatever the person rating is, it's always a tight squeeze for that many. So for the 4 of us, we prefer to get something for 6 or 8 people. In your video, you're working on small tents where you can easily reach the top of your tents. I know anything we get will be larger and I'm worried about trying to apply that seam sealer to the top of a large tent. I saw another person saying they used a spray and it worked well. Anyways, I'm hoping we could get by with a cheaper tent that has all the other specs we want and then use these waterproofing methods to keep out the moisture. Still doing some homework but happy to have found your video along the way!
I bought the green and white ozark trail 4 man tent from walmart 2 months ago and I've used it every day, through the wettest summer we've ever had, and it hasn't leaked a drop. Pretty amazing for a 39 dollar tent.
Snugpak Scorpion 3, waterproof/windproof and an absolute beast - right out of the box! There's some concern about their current gear being of let's just say, "lesser" quality. Glad I bought when I did. Love the Scorpion 3, has saved my a$$ on more than one occassion!
I got a used but in good condition Eureka El Capitan 2 years ago and it has seen some extreme west coast rain on the coast of Vancouver Island. I was Literally giddy during the last downpour about how dang dry and toasty I was in my little tent. This was rainforest camping and so cosy. Love this though- I will take your advice in the future!
Nice! I'm so glad that your tent kept you dry! I understand the giddy feeling! The rain starts coming and you get a little worried, but then as the storm continues and you're still dry, you can't help but file from ear to ear! 😆 Thanks so much for watching!
Yep...just used the Scotchgarde yesterday. I spray our tent once a year. We use the tent a lot, but it is always put away clean and dry when it isn't being used.
I'm a little late to the party, but Smooth-On makes a product called SilPoxy. It is the only adhesive I know of that can be applied over silicone and can actually bond two siliconized surfaces. That makes it ideal for both resealing existing siliconized surfaces and repairing siliconized fabric (think tear or ember burn in a silnylon or silpoly tarp or tent). Once the big tubes are opened they need to be kept in the freezer to prevent the tube from curing however, they also make little ketchup packet sized containers that you can take with you for quick repairs on the trail. Great channel. Subbed.
I've had a North Face mountain tent since 98, mostly used in winter conditions and never had a problem with it ever. Used it a lot at one time and have never had to tape seams or reseal.
Hey Eric! THAT is impressive! 24 years on a tent and still no seam sealing or waterproofing required! From what I've heard, North Face doesn't make stuff like they used to, but sounds like you picked up an absolute winner! Thanks for sharing!
@@DoseofDirt Like I said use to use it a lot in colorado winters not very humid only put it away wet a couple of times when in the pacific north west surfing in november. pulled it out as soon as I could to dry. Had it out last september during bear season. I was just looking for info for a mid 70's I think 6 man nothface expedition tent my dad had for research, it is badly mold and mildew you can see through wind comes through, to see if I can recover it with poly and ratio's just basically redue the whole thing, maybe?
@@ericbettis2777 Dang, a mid 70s northface tent would be pretty rad. Just to see how much as changed. Ya, the mold and mildew can be bad. I've gotten in the habit of almost always pulling my tent out when I get home to dry off and air out in the back yard. It's a pain at the time, but I'm glad to prolong the life of my tent!
Great waterproofing tips. I personally use white spirit & silicone mixture shaken up until all liquid, then brush on anything I want waterproofing. Cheap tents, footwear, jackets, hats, gloves, anything. Leave to dry for a full 24hours & ready to use.
Gazelle T4 Plus Extra Large 4 to 8 Person Portable Pop Up Outdoor Shelter Camping Hub Tent with Rain Fly & Extended Screened In Sun Room, Orange no problems with leaks at all .
Good video. I don't know how it would work on a tent but Starbrite, who makes fantastic boating products, also makes a water-based waterproofer for boating fabrics, seats, tops, sails, and pretty much anything. It does list tents. Little to no odor. Sixty dollars a gallon but you could sure cover some stuff with a gallon. They might sell smaller quantities, but I am not sure. It also provides UV protection. Might be worth a test.
I'm from Romania and Decathlon's budget tents (Quechua, Arpenaz) are very popular here and I've never heard of one leaking water inside... at the seems or trough the tarp (keeping the vestibules open... is another thing :D). We have one (probably the cheapest model) and we spent weeks, at a time, camping and we never had any such problems (and I think it's a 2015 or, max, 2016 model), BUT (only actual flaw) the zippers of the inner tent are just horrible. Hope this helps, somehow, someone! :) Thank you for the videos! :) (now I need to seal a Bestway bathroom tent :) )
Thanks Dana! I have heard that decathlon tents are great! I haven’t had a chance to try one yet, but would really like to. Awesome that yours has lasted so long and held up so well! Romania looks like it has some amazing places to hike! Thanks so much for your comment!
I live in America, and all they sell us is JUNK, probably because they think we're all rich so if the thing doesn't last we'll simply buy another, keep the cash pouring out of our pockets and into the corporation's pockets. It's the same reason why appliances here only last 4 to 7 years! I have a friend who lives in England, and their appliances are warrantied for the factory for 7 years, ours are just 1 year. Anyway, back to tents, I bought a $300 tent and I have to retreat it after every trip, and for some reason, Scotchgard does not work well even after putting on double coats, it seems like after the first rain the water repellency is used up.
We LOVE our tent. My main thing for this one was something to have space for our family of 5 to be able to go if it happens to be a bad and rainy day. Has only had a couple drops of rain but it was lashing out hard so that was great. No leaks. Still gonna stray it just in case to be safe but still. We have the Ozark Trail 12-Person Instant Cabin Tent ⛺️
My Eureka El Capitan works great in the rain! Last weekend was a rainy camping weekend and my son said it was so comfy inside the dry tent! Great video!!!
The tarn 3 by MEC has done myself, my father, our gear, and up until recently a 120 lbs dog very well for over a decade. Resealed one time, one snapped pole fixed(thanks dog), and used between 6-12 weekends a year always 1 in the snow season.
The seam trick with great. Great video!.. but, the shaking of the can segment; I wake up screaming in the middle of the night... some things you just can't unsee!
Hello there. I purchased a Clostnature 2P tent from Amazon. I've camped in heavy rain with winds gusting as high as 30 mph without a single leak. I did recently treat it with Cabelas waterproofing spray, just to be safe.
Naturehike Cloudup 2, I have an ultralight and regular version both in silnylon. Both have stood up to insane thunderstorms and winds in all 4 seasons in the midsouth for 3 years now.
Awesome informative video. Just bought a big agnes tiger wall 3 and taking it camping this weekend. Weather reports dosen't look good so I'm going to give it the treatment. I live at the end of the world and thought I was going to have to order everything but the Walmart plug you gave saved me from that trouble. They carried both items. Thanks for your time and knowledge.
You read my mind with this video 😆 I was just trying to figure out how to waterproof a cheap ozark car camping tent I got as a loaner to take some friends camping. My husband took it on a trip a few weeks ago and it very much failed the rain test 😬
Hey Kayla! Glad the video was well timed! 😆 Ah dang! Nothing worse than waking up soaking wet from rain on a camping trip! UGH! If the tent has been on a lot of trips, you'll also want to clean it first! These were both pretty new, so not dirty. Would love to hear how your waterproofing experience goes!
@@DoseofDirt Which seam sealer did you use for your ozark tent? I can't seem to find material information on Walmarts website to make sure I get the right one. Also thanks for the tip on cleaning it first. It's only been out once but it did get kinda dirty in the rain.
@@kaylariggs8865 For the Ozark tent (as well as the orange one) I used the Gear Aid Seam Sealer WP. It works for nylon & polyester (which almost all tents are made out of now) as well as some other fabric types. here's a link to the Gear Aid website, since it gives more information than the Amazon page: www.gearaid.com/products/seam-grip-sealant-waterproof?variant=28044147153 And here's a link to the the site that explains the different kinds: www.gearaid.com/blogs/help/which-sealant-should-i-use Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help!
Yes, coating of a tent does wear off from use, UV, weather, etc. Yes, there are sprays, brush on products to bring back the waterproofing of the tent (or other product). And yes, I guess your video helps those new to camping. So good for you. For many, just wonder through a major sporting goods store and find all you need to keep you nice and dry in your tent. And do this every year at minimum....
North Face Wawona 6 was amazing. It got destroyed in some intense storms from Arkansas down to the gulf in Texas but it was a great tent for 2 weeks. 60mph+ winds and I slept great. To bad you can't buy that model anymore.
DANG! Nothing worse than finding out your tent isn't waterproof while you're sleeping in it! Hope you didn't get too wet! These two things should get it sealed up nice for you! My tents were leaking like sieves and now they are sealed up tight! Would love to know how it works out for you! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for great vid. We have a 9 Person Instant Cabin Tent 14' x 9 And just got back from a trip where one evening it thunderstormed/ rained for about 4 hours HARD!. the only water that got in this tent was near door where we had a rug to wipe feet .pretty sure it only seeped through due to the rug. Small puddle was it.rain fly and tent kept the rest of unit bone dry . Highly recommend the core tents ( been tent camping for 20 years )
Thanks! Just bought the Scotch Waterproofer for my Alvantor pop up screenhouse/tent and wanted to check out a video first. Nice, clear explanation. Appreciated!
Currently rocking a roman cradle 3p and its absolutely amazing, I've been living in it for 8 months, first through the last few months of a very hot Australian summer, and the last 6 months in Melbourne bi polar 4 season a day weather. Longest streak is 11 days straight in the rain with only a few hours to dry before another 6 days of rain afterwards, no leaks. And 47km/h winds. I cannot beat ground condensation though, and sometimes humidity gets so bad water forms ontop of the inner fly but doesnt come inside the tent, i wake up, see some very small water droplets above me and i just flick them away. I use 2 picnic rugs as an floor lining now, and every 2nd day i empty the tent, pull the rugs out and air them out and i paper towl up the condensation on the floor and spray it with glen 20. I have recently purchased eva floor mats and s mesh ground sheet to add an extra layer under the tent and then inside under the picnic rugs.
Yep...Had an MSR Hubba Hubba 3 person from 2007. Used it maybe 5 times over the years. Always stored it inside the house, in a closet. It has worked well in the past in the rain. This month (March 2024) I used the tent and saw after the first night that there appeared to be condensation droplets inside, which was puzzling to me because the tent was well vented with both ends open, and lots of air flow. The next evening it began to rain. The rain fly became saturated over time and the whole tent was dripping water everywhere....UGH!
First, I LOVE that you've been rocking that tent since 2007. Gear can last a long time if you take care of it! Sucks that your rain fly started wetting out. Hope you were able to get it water proofed again and take it back out on the trail!
This might be a stupid question... can you use that seam sealer on the entire floor inside the tent or the outside of the tent floor that faces the ground? .... I haven't mastered keeping the floor dry yet.... even using a drop tarp. 🤔🤷♀️ I am desperate lol
Ive got a 10 person tent that my family loves, its an Ozark. And we use the scott guard on it every year. Its takes about 3 cans to fully get it done.. . We bought a new one this, same has our last one. Our last one we had for 6 years, we nomally go camping 5 to 6 times a year.
just found you lol. went camping this Last weekend and got DUMPED on in a Coleman echo lake 6. it rained hard for a few hours and even hailed. I think it rained so hard it just plain went straight through the fabric. it was a damp night but luckily I had a cot so I dried out fast the next morning
Hey Zulu! Glad you found the channel! Cots for the win! I've never tried a cot, but would like to. Seems like it could make for a comfortable night's sleep! I've found that a fresh treatment of the waterproofing spray can prevent tents from 'wetting out' like that. Hope you're able to stay dry on the next trip! But even on a rain day it's always good to be in the woods! Thanks so much for your comment!
@@DoseofDirt cots are awesome if you can handle them in your system. that tent could definitely use a treatment as its a few years old now and sat for a couple years. I actually need to find a bigger tent so 2 cots can fit and was looking at the Coleman festival.
Great video!! I have a Lightheart gear tent the solong 6. I've had it in some serious storms for a few days at a time with no leaks yet. I did pay the company to seam seal it though 😢. Extra money. I dont understand why they dont just seal it for free for the money they are charging for the tent!!?? Only thing that happened after a few days of rain was it soaked up water and started to sag a little bit. I tightened the guylines and fixed it enough. But yeah no leaks. Oh its made of silnylon. Should have just sealed it myself and saved $$.
I have a Vango force 10 vortex. Had it 15 years +, still waterproof as the day I got it. Bit heavy and over the top for the camping I now do but it has survived the worst North Wales UK can throw at it.
i went on a last minute camping trip. I borrowed an old tent from a friend. When we were setting up, I could see a storm rolling in. Lucky there was a food store a few miles from the site. I bought a box of 30 gallon plastic trash bags. I just ripped the seams of the bags and layered it over the tent. I also put some of the plastic bags on the ground. I stayed nice and dry for days.
$160 North Face Strombreak 2 survived a monsoon downpour in the Everglades the very first use. Not a single drop came in. It was so dry that the ground has a perfect hexagonal dry spot when we took the tent down. Definitely the best entry level tent
Ozark Trail 8 person instant tent. I've had it for years and it hasn't leaked. I do always spray my tent with scatch guard when I set it up for the first time and about once every year.
I have a Eureka Desert Canyon tent, I've had it for about 5 years now. I'm in the PNW and seem to get rain on every camping trip, last year it poured for 5 days almost non-stop, but the tent interior stayed totally dry. I always worry when it might start leaking though. I don't have a yard or a space I can set the tent up in, but might order the seam sealant and a spray and use them on my next camping trip, so long as it has a full dry day. I want my tent to last, especially since Eureka is shutting down. If I could afford it I would buy one of the updated versions of ny current tent for when it inevitably needs to be replaced.
Im in the market for a coleman weathermaster 6-person tent and I think Im going to give this weather proofing strategy a try as Ive heard its not so.. mastering the weather lol
Ha! This approach has worked great for my budget tents! I feel a lot better about buying a sub $100 tent and $12 of waterproofing stuff rather than a $300-400 tent for almost the same weight! Would love to know how it turns out for you!
I have a Cabela's cabin tent that I bought about 20 years ago. Until about two years ago, it would stay dry in a downpour. When it started leaking, I re-sealed the seams and sprayed waterproofing on the rain fly. It still leaks. Next step is the hose test to try to diagnose the exact location of the leak(s)
My Big Agnes has been waterproof for years and never leaded ,but this last week in Colo, it leak a little bit at the stiches on the rain fly . looking for a good way to reseal it.
Hey Tray! Those Big Agnes tents are top notch! But eventually the water proofing will fail (they even say it on the website!). This works great for me and should work well on your Big Agnes as well! Just make sure you get the right seam sealer for the fabric of your tent. Thanks for watching!
Good vid 👍 - past several years I've always sprayed the seems with camp dry ...that very same 3m product - I guess I'll be going a step further with seem seal ...
Thanks, Baker! Ya, sometimes miss church for camping. The hair is definitely staying! 😆 I'll have to try the camp dry as well. Several people have mentioned that it works great! Thanks for your comment!
Just coming across this channel and video. Great stuff. Question. I guess it depends on how often the tent is out in the elements but any general idea of how often to apply materials?
I'm too lazy to paint the seam seal. So I just use that waterproof spray to saturated spray on all the seams, 3 coats. It has been great and never have a leak even on cheap tents for the past 30 years of camping.
An original Cabelas 4 season Alaskan Guide tent.. Have used for years in the rain & Snow & have Not had to Waterproof it yet, Also holds up Stupid Good to high winds & Insulates the cold out fairly well. Normally run a Propane heater in it when it gets around 15Deg or less outside.
I dunno why... But, the UA-cam algorithm has actually been crushin' it for me the past week or so. Recommended this video to me today (even though I had never heard of the channel before) and I'm pretty glad. Liked & Subscribed for sure, my dude. P.S. If mom had a problem with the hair then she definitely didn't appreciate the shake. Just sayin'. LOL
😂😂😂😂 I'm still waiting for the text from mom when she sees the video... 🤣🤣 Sometimes it's scary how well the UA-cam algorithm knows us, isn't it? LOL! So glad you found the channel and truly appreciate your support and kind words!
Hey Anthony! That's no good! I would think that the material your groundsheet is made of is no longer waterproof. Are you referring to the floor of the tent or a separate groundsheet/foot print? If it's the floor of the tent, I would try waterproofing from both sides (floor inside the tent as well as the bottom of the tent from the outside) and see if that takes care of the problem. If not, you may just have to get a separate foot print that is waterproof. Hopefully you're not having this issue with a new tent? If it's new, I would definitely contact the manufacturer!
I personally used a good cheap Magellan Scout from Academy. I've had it since 2010 and it has served me well. Waterproofing just started failing so this video came at just the right time for me.
Nice! 12 years out of a tent is impressive! Especially since the waterproofing is just now starting to fail. sounds like you picked up a solid tent! Would love to know how the waterproofing turns out for you. Thanks for your comment!
Aren’t you reducing the moisture permeability/breathability inside by spraying that on the outside? Can u recommend a good sealer for tent canvas that is cotton poly blend?
Hi Gigi. Unfortunately I don't any experience with waterproofing canvas tents. I've read that some like this same scotchguard spray, but I can't speak from experience. Looks like there may be some helpful videos or articles on the web though! Here's one that seems pretty detailed: tentcampingtrips.com/how-to-waterproof-a-canvas-tent/ Good luck!
I'll admit I'm not super familiar with this, but just spent some time looking into it. Definitely something I'd like to try. If I can find time, to try it I'll let make a video about it
@@mymai5859 I'll admit I'm not super familiar with this, but just spent some time looking into it. Definitely something I'd like to try. If I can find time, to try it I'll let make a video about it
Got 2 adventure kings swags. Waterproof when I set then up. When I lent then to friends they "leak". Knowing how to propley rig a tent even if it seams simple some people don't know the smaller things
Really appreciate your advice in this video. I have an Ozark Trail WT111208 and I think it's polyester and nylon but I'm not sure. Is there a way to tell? The label doesn't say
Hmm, I'm surprised the label doesn't say. Some of those tents will have a tag on the tent or on the bag. I would check both of those places. You can also check the product listing on Ozark's website. What a pain that it isn't labeled!
Bought a Portal cabin tent that sleeps 8 on Amazon. Every seam is taped on the inside. I was tested in driving rain in the Catskills and is perfectly waterproof.
I'm not even going out for camping, I got an instant popup tent that I use at the park and the beach when I go out with my baby, and yes, showers do come down when we are at the park, and I'm glad I can use this technique to seal our tent so at least we have a place to hide when the rain comes down.
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As someone who is learning how to camp, i get so tired of youtubers constantly trying to convince me that the most expensive options for gear are the only way to go. that’s so stressful for a first time camper trying to build an inventory from scratch!! thank you for providing realistic and budget friendly options! this helped me out so much.
Most of those convincers are getting paid to do so. I wouldn't fault them too much. They are just trying to make a living. The best thing you can do for yourself I find is to constantly look at different points-of-view from UA-camrs, influencers, etc. Eventually, you will catch-on to what works best for you.
This is America, if something is more expensive it MUST be better! Seriously, I quite literally live with everything I own strapped to my motorcycle and have owned cheap Walmart tents all the way up to top end models. What I've learned is that it doesn't matter which tent you buy or how well you care for it, it's the zippers that eventually fail.
I've never had an issue with a Coleman tent leaking. Specifically the Sundome series. They have various sizes and are fairly budget friendly for someone just starting out. Good luck in your adventures!.
Buy once, cry once, enjoy life..
I’m only 70. Been tramping since 1978. Back in the day nan old timer said they didn’t have plastics. What I found some gear fails and some don’t. Didn’t have UA-cam back then
So just suck it up, make sure you can be warm and stay fairly dry. I spent a few nights out under the stars and froze my balls of. If your trialing gear, take it out for a weekend so you don’t suffer to much. Sometimes you get a gut feeling that its not going to work. Just have a look how well made it is, double seamed, pick at the edges
Generally I take fresh food for a weekend I take a light weight cutting board to cut the veggies and meat, I’ve been known to be an excllent cook in the hills we tramp in a group 2-6 and more people so we share or cooking shelter first aid. Don’t be afraid at worse we can loose our live, what away to go. Relay I’ve spent may sleepless night wondering how Huey is preforming. So if you are apprehensive don’t do it. I’m for New Zealand and we have got some of the most idyllic places
I could have started back in myyyy dayyy. It’s still my day
Cheers have a great day
I have an old North Face dome tent that has kept me dry about 50 years. I also have my first tent, a pair of WW2 shelter halves that together make a pup tent. I bought a big jar of Kenyon Recoat3 seam sealed from Campmor that has sealed over 10 tents, and is about half left. Works great. It is water soluble before it dries, and easy to clean the brush and drips. Note: There is something about tents that attract dogs and cats, so protect your drying sealed tent or you will camp with the odor of urine for a while. Also, get a good artist brush of the right size for your use to apply sealer. Experiment for size. Also, pitch a tent at least once a year in warm weather to get the kinks and folds out.
It really depends on how you look after your tent some people are rough with there gear and it doesnt last as long due to improper maintenance. Wow your 50 year old tent is impressive, you must look after your gear very well. 👍
Don’t suppose you’d be willing to email me your camping tips?
A friend of mine, who is a very experienced backpaker, gave me good advice. ( We'll went backpacking together at Mt. Ranier Natl. Forest. I hadn't been backpacking for 30 years). He told me to set up my tent in my backyard and use a lawn sprinkler to test the tents water proofing. I kept the sprinkler on for an hour. Excellent advice. It also helped me to understand how to avoid pooling of water & proper undercloth placement.
What a waste of water
Bought a "Coleman Go!" tent for $15 at Aldi 10+ years ago. It was my husband and I's only tent for many years but even now that we have a newer, bigger, fancier tent, the old Coleman still gets used regularly when we want a smaller/lighter tent or need an extra to outfit a friend. It's been sprayed with silicone-based waterproofing a few times over the years. I always made sure to saturate the seams thoroughly with the spray and have never had any issues with water seeping through. I do the same with our other tent and no issues there either. If you or your viewers want to save a few more $$, try just spraying the seams before splurging for the additional seam-specific product.
This is probably a video to sell the seam sealers lol
@@natalywithaY Get some Silicone and Mineral spirits, give it a mix and you are done, and you got enough for tens of tents or other objects for the same price.
Ive been doing the scotch guard trick for nearly a decade. I give my tent a spray before nearly every outing and i have a cheap Ozark Trails tent that has lasted me almost a decade now because of it. Take care of it and it will take care of you.
Thanks for the tip on the seams. Your info on materials and if they'll stand the rain was great 😊 I'd just like to say to anyone considering spraying a tent please wear a mask even outdoors. I sprayed a tent a few years ago outside in my garden. I thought that was plenty of ventilation, it turns out the product I used contained Ether.... Which the doctor told me when I was rushed to hospital with a terrifying reaction. Great stuff for waterproofing but please be careful I'd hate to see it happen to someone else.
Great tip! Thanks for adding this!
Last time I waterproofed some boots I was proper spaced out and seeing stars. I might waterproof them again later for fun
So sorry that happened to you, and I’m grateful you shared it, I know many will be helped ❤❤ stay dry 🙂 and thank you.
@@Kismet-cx7fe thanks it was a very scary time. I just hope my comment helps others avoid it while they work.
I’ll be spraying my wheelchair cover in a few days, and I now know, I will not do it in the garage & I’ll be careful to wear a mask ❤ outside as I spray … you have definitely helped me, I have a lung disorder and I try to be cautious, thanks again.
I have the 2016 Big Agnes UL3 MTNGLO Tent. I bought it new in 2016 and used it a ton between 2016 and 2019. I then didn't use it once throughout the pandemic and just finally took it out for 2 weeks in the Lake district of the UK where it rains A LOT. A lot, a lot. I stayed dry the entire time. The water wasn't beading off, but it didn't soak through completely or leak in any way. It was damp, but zero leaks. For a 6 year old tent that I've never water proofed once, it handled the non stop rain for 4 straight days amazingly well. I recommend Big Agnes tents and sleeping pads to anyone.
Any tent that can stand up to the Lake District in the UK deserves high praise! I spent 18 months in the UK for work and know that when it rains, IT RAINS!
Thanks for your comment!
We camp around the Pacific Northwest (also soooo soggy) in our 2017 Big Agnes with equal satisfaction. So dry. So good.
A little tip I learned years ago: get yourself a larg syringe with a curved tip and use it to apply the seam sealer then brush it out. It makes it much easier and less messy.
i was a ScoutMaster for years.I agree those are excellent products.I also used Thompson water seal the original clear on seams with a ! in brush.Used on cheapo 7x7 dome tents they never leaked.For the body I did use the spray.
Hey Aaron! Nice! I'll have to check out the thompson water seal. It's definitely worth the extra effort to stay dry!
Thanks for watching!
Good idea too. I will have to get small can if i can get it in pints.
Thank you for the application tips, specifically, the reminder to seal around vents. I've got an NorthFace Rock 32 that's now keeping water out very well. Since waterproofing, it has withstood monsoon rain (more than 3/4" each night,) for 12 nights in a row.
Hey Sara! That is awesome! Always nice to know that your tent will TRULY keep you protected from the elements!
Please do tell. What product did you use to waterproof? Thank you.
I have had a Teton mountain 3 for almost 5 years now. Beyond my belief, I have never had water problems, other than myself tracking it in. Very proud of this tent.
Thanks, Joseph. I have heard that Teton makes a FANASTIC tent! Been meaning to get my hands on one, but it's been a busy summer. I have several other Teton products and have loved almost every single one of them!
Hmm well i guess im gonna look at a video on that tent now.
I have the Teton Mountain 2, had to wash it with a brush so I applied that spray ... but used 3 cans.
My Eureka Spitfires (1 & 2) have been wonderful tents that have lasted me for years. The weight and size ($) were the big selling points, both were worth every penny.
That's awesome! Have you had to retreat them for waterproofing yet?
A quick seam sealer you can find almost anywhere in an emergency is called shoe goo. It's an adhesive just like Sean sealer but a little thicker and works great but is harder to smooth. I wouldn't replace good seam sealer but if you need some and can't wait for delivery and don't have a store nearby that sells any it's a great option.
WalMart sells another heavy duty silicone spray by ATSKO with a bright orange cap. It works great; I have never had any tent leak after using and I don't bother with the seam sealer. The water almost flies off of the tent fabric.
Hey Randy! That's awesome! I don't remember seeing the ATSKO brand there, but I think I've used a few other products from that brand and have been satisfied. I'll have to look for it when my scotchguard runs out!
The sprays make it so easy to waterproof! Definitely worth the time it takes to make sure your tent is 100% ready to go!
Thanks for watching!
ATSKO is the old school stuff we used to use for boots when we were kids in the 1980's.
Best stuff in history, short of thinning out a tube of pure silicone and spraying it on heavy.
@@VanishingNomad Nice! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great video
I have seam sealed using silicone and mineral spirits. Just get the tube of silicone squeeze it into a cup thin with mineral spirits to a syrup consistency and paint on the seams. I used a 1” brush to get a good area coated. We had a 27’ x 13’ wall tent that would leak like a screen door on a submarine after seam sealing and coating with the orange waterproofing spray from Walmart it stays nice and dry.
Thanks, James! That's awesome that you made your own seam sealer with silicone and mineral spirits. Now THAT is some serious DIY!
"Screen door on a submarine" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awesome you got it sealed up! Amazing what a difference it makes!
Thanks for your comment!
I saw the same videos and I wondered if it worked in tent materials. Did you try it?
I remember buying tents back in the day and they came with a seam sealer. I don't know why they don't know. Thank you so much for your advice! It is very much needed because I bought an ABCO sports tent and it says it's not safe to sleep in a heavy rain.
I had the worst experience with Gear-aid seam sealer. First, it would take DAYS to dry, but that is not the worst part, because once what it felt like an eternity before it looked dry, when folded, if by mistake the sealer touched itself, it to glued shut. I can't tell you the MESS I had to deal with trying to unfold a tent where seams are randomly glued together inside the tent. I had to use talc to remove any tackiness of the seam sealer, but the damage was done, I had seam sealer ripped everywhere, because of the mess I had to deal with.
I was camping in the beartooths with my geology class over the summer. I was in a north face storm break 2p tent and I could feel the water running under my tent but inside I was bone dry. Everyone else got soaked though. It was maybe my 15th night in the tent and it had gotten rain before so it was an absolute win for me
Old saying >> U get what U pay for,
Sometimes
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Dude the shake the can scene made me spit my drink out! Lol. Subbed.
HAHAH! I feel like I should apologize for the mess! 😆 Thanks for the sub, man! Much appreciated!
I was luckier... I had just finished my coffee at McDonald's....😊
Awesome. Thank you. We just bought a $50 backpacking tent, and I am determined to make it work. We usually also put our tents under a tarp when possible, but I am not spending $800 on a tent. Bravo.
Carry a $1 polyethylene paint drop sheet with you JIC. If you miss spots waterproofing, then you can become 100% waterproof in a minute for the night for a sawbuck and four or five gem clips.
Then when the tent dries out, respray with the silicon waterproofer. I usually respray every year or two on my first spring outing. You have some dead time in camp so might as well spray it at 10am when the dew dries if you're in the same camp for two days.
$6 can and 5 minutes a year is the cost of keeping a cheap tent alive for years.
Was at a festival last weekend and it was the first outing for my Vango Soneva air 550xl. The Saturday night was monsoon like conditions according to others at the festival. Many other tents where completely flooded. I slept through the whole thing and no water penetration in our tent.
NICE! Sounds like you picked up a winner!!
I've used scotch gard on my tent and it always had helped keeping them waterproof and dry it even works on seams
Good for hats, too.
Good info on the seam goop and especially on the spray. I'm going to buy myself both asap. Thanks for sharing. Rock the Mountain Japan.
Thanks! Hope they work out well for you! Thanks so much for watching!
I thank you for this video! We are tent shopping. Fam of 4 that wants plenty of room for us + plenty of room for whatever we bring. It has been SO HARD finding a tent that has all the specs we want.
•Has a screen room.
•Enough room in the sleeping area so the screen room does not need to be used for a sleeping area.
•Waterproof (at least mostly) in case we are caught out in the rain.
•Under $1000 USD.
•Something we can use for hunting public land + camping trips to a park.
The tent I was eyeballing that looks *almost* perfect is the Gazelle T4 Plus Hub Tent. I like everything about it except that the sleeping area is made for 4 people (plus another 4 in the screen room). I think everyone knows that whatever the person rating is, it's always a tight squeeze for that many. So for the 4 of us, we prefer to get something for 6 or 8 people.
In your video, you're working on small tents where you can easily reach the top of your tents. I know anything we get will be larger and I'm worried about trying to apply that seam sealer to the top of a large tent.
I saw another person saying they used a spray and it worked well.
Anyways, I'm hoping we could get by with a cheaper tent that has all the other specs we want and then use these waterproofing methods to keep out the moisture. Still doing some homework but happy to have found your video along the way!
Eureka K2 XT 3 person 4 season expedition tent was outstanding. Owned two of them over the years went to Denali with it.
NICE! Denali must have been an incredible adventure!
I bought the green and white ozark trail 4 man tent from walmart 2 months ago and I've used it every day, through the wettest summer we've ever had, and it hasn't leaked a drop. Pretty amazing for a 39 dollar tent.
Snugpak Scorpion 3, waterproof/windproof and an absolute beast - right out of the box! There's some concern about their current gear being of let's just say, "lesser" quality. Glad I bought when I did. Love the Scorpion 3, has saved my a$$ on more than one occassion!
I got a used but in good condition Eureka El Capitan 2 years ago and it has seen some extreme west coast rain on the coast of Vancouver Island. I was
Literally giddy during the last downpour about how dang dry and toasty I was in my little tent. This was rainforest camping and so cosy. Love this though- I will take your advice in the future!
Nice! I'm so glad that your tent kept you dry! I understand the giddy feeling! The rain starts coming and you get a little worried, but then as the storm continues and you're still dry, you can't help but file from ear to ear! 😆
Thanks so much for watching!
Solid, I’ve used seam sealer, silicone from the auto store, flex seal etc all with the same results.
Nice! Good to know!
Yep...just used the Scotchgarde yesterday. I spray our tent once a year. We use the tent a lot, but it is always put away clean and dry when it isn't being used.
I'm a little late to the party, but Smooth-On makes a product called SilPoxy. It is the only adhesive I know of that can be applied over silicone and can actually bond two siliconized surfaces. That makes it ideal for both resealing existing siliconized surfaces and repairing siliconized fabric (think tear or ember burn in a silnylon or silpoly tarp or tent). Once the big tubes are opened they need to be kept in the freezer to prevent the tube from curing however, they also make little ketchup packet sized containers that you can take with you for quick repairs on the trail. Great channel. Subbed.
My old ozark trail (discontinued) is definitely waterproof. I treat it with spray 4 times over 2 days with a large fan inside.
Amazing what a difference the waterproof spray can make!
Love my berkhaus 3.2.
Just enough space to sit up.
Pockets, vents, lamp hook, light 2.2kg
And spacious for 1.
Glow strips in dark.
Loved it .
I've had a North Face mountain tent since 98, mostly used in winter conditions and never had a problem with it ever. Used it a lot at one time and have never had to tape seams or reseal.
Hey Eric! THAT is impressive! 24 years on a tent and still no seam sealing or waterproofing required! From what I've heard, North Face doesn't make stuff like they used to, but sounds like you picked up an absolute winner!
Thanks for sharing!
@@DoseofDirt Like I said use to use it a lot in colorado winters not very humid only put it away wet a couple of times when in the pacific north west surfing in november. pulled it out as soon as I could to dry. Had it out last september during bear season. I was just looking for info for a mid 70's I think 6 man nothface expedition tent my dad had for research, it is badly mold and mildew you can see through wind comes through, to see if I can recover it with poly and ratio's just basically redue the whole thing, maybe?
@@DoseofDirt I would not buy anything from North Face now.
@@ericbettis2777 Dang, a mid 70s northface tent would be pretty rad. Just to see how much as changed. Ya, the mold and mildew can be bad. I've gotten in the habit of almost always pulling my tent out when I get home to dry off and air out in the back yard. It's a pain at the time, but I'm glad to prolong the life of my tent!
@@ericbettis2777 Ya, agreed. No northface gear for me now. Too bad it's changed so much.
Can you thin down silicone with spirits and achieve the same affect?
Great waterproofing tips.
I personally use white spirit & silicone mixture shaken up until all liquid, then brush on anything I want waterproofing. Cheap tents, footwear, jackets, hats, gloves, anything. Leave to dry for a full 24hours & ready to use.
Where do you purchase ?
@@cathy667 you make it 100% silicone 50yr clear caulking and naphtha 2 to one or adjust for consistency.
Gazelle T4 Plus Extra Large 4 to 8 Person Portable Pop Up Outdoor Shelter Camping Hub Tent with Rain Fly & Extended Screened In Sun Room, Orange no problems with leaks at all .
Good video. I don't know how it would work on a tent but Starbrite, who makes fantastic boating products, also makes a water-based waterproofer for boating fabrics, seats, tops, sails, and pretty much anything. It does list tents. Little to no odor. Sixty dollars a gallon but you could sure cover some stuff with a gallon. They might sell smaller quantities, but I am not sure. It also provides UV protection. Might be worth a test.
I'm from Romania and Decathlon's budget tents (Quechua, Arpenaz) are very popular here and I've never heard of one leaking water inside... at the seems or trough the tarp (keeping the vestibules open... is another thing :D). We have one (probably the cheapest model) and we spent weeks, at a time, camping and we never had any such problems (and I think it's a 2015 or, max, 2016 model), BUT (only actual flaw) the zippers of the inner tent are just horrible. Hope this helps, somehow, someone! :) Thank you for the videos! :) (now I need to seal a Bestway bathroom tent :) )
Thanks Dana! I have heard that decathlon tents are great! I haven’t had a chance to try one yet, but would really like to. Awesome that yours has lasted so long and held up so well! Romania looks like it has some amazing places to hike!
Thanks so much for your comment!
I live in America, and all they sell us is JUNK, probably because they think we're all rich so if the thing doesn't last we'll simply buy another, keep the cash pouring out of our pockets and into the corporation's pockets. It's the same reason why appliances here only last 4 to 7 years! I have a friend who lives in England, and their appliances are warrantied for the factory for 7 years, ours are just 1 year. Anyway, back to tents, I bought a $300 tent and I have to retreat it after every trip, and for some reason, Scotchgard does not work well even after putting on double coats, it seems like after the first rain the water repellency is used up.
8 years of heavy use of my Eureka Copper Canyon 4. Been thru MANY very strong winds and rain. It's never leaked one single drop....ever.
We LOVE our tent. My main thing for this one was something to have space for our family of 5 to be able to go if it happens to be a bad and rainy day. Has only had a couple drops of rain but it was lashing out hard so that was great. No leaks. Still gonna stray it just in case to be safe but still.
We have the
Ozark Trail 12-Person Instant Cabin Tent ⛺️
My Eureka El Capitan works great in the rain! Last weekend was a rainy camping weekend and my son said it was so comfy inside the dry tent! Great video!!!
The tarn 3 by MEC has done myself, my father, our gear, and up until recently a 120 lbs dog very well for over a decade. Resealed one time, one snapped pole fixed(thanks dog), and used between 6-12 weekends a year always 1 in the snow season.
The seam trick with great. Great video!.. but, the shaking of the can segment; I wake up screaming in the middle of the night... some things you just can't unsee!
Hello there. I purchased a Clostnature 2P tent from Amazon. I've camped in heavy rain with winds gusting as high as 30 mph without a single leak. I did recently treat it with Cabelas waterproofing spray, just to be safe.
I had a Eureka Blue Mesa 1610.... lasted 17 years. GREAT tent
SEVENTEEN YEARS?! That is impressive! Hang on to that tent!
Have you had to re-do the waterproofing at all?
excellent video! Thanks for the help. is it helpful to add a second coating of spray once the first one dries?
Naturehike Cloudup 2, I have an ultralight and regular version both in silnylon. Both have stood up to insane thunderstorms and winds in all 4 seasons in the midsouth for 3 years now.
Nice video, bought an entry level tent definitely gonna do this, and replace those fiberglass polls with aluminum ...
Love it! Good way to save some serious money!
Awesome informative video. Just bought a big agnes tiger wall 3 and taking it camping this weekend. Weather reports dosen't look good so I'm going to give it the treatment. I live at the end of the world and thought I was going to have to order everything but the Walmart plug you gave saved me from that trouble. They carried both items. Thanks for your time and knowledge.
Hey Joe! That's awesome!! Big Agnes Tiger Wall 3 is a solid tent! Would love to know how the trip goes when you get back! Hopefully it's a good time!
You read my mind with this video 😆 I was just trying to figure out how to waterproof a cheap ozark car camping tent I got as a loaner to take some friends camping. My husband took it on a trip a few weeks ago and it very much failed the rain test 😬
Hey Kayla! Glad the video was well timed! 😆
Ah dang! Nothing worse than waking up soaking wet from rain on a camping trip! UGH!
If the tent has been on a lot of trips, you'll also want to clean it first! These were both pretty new, so not dirty.
Would love to hear how your waterproofing experience goes!
@@DoseofDirt Which seam sealer did you use for your ozark tent? I can't seem to find material information on Walmarts website to make sure I get the right one.
Also thanks for the tip on cleaning it first. It's only been out once but it did get kinda dirty in the rain.
@@kaylariggs8865 For the Ozark tent (as well as the orange one) I used the Gear Aid Seam Sealer WP. It works for nylon & polyester (which almost all tents are made out of now) as well as some other fabric types.
here's a link to the Gear Aid website, since it gives more information than the Amazon page: www.gearaid.com/products/seam-grip-sealant-waterproof?variant=28044147153
And here's a link to the the site that explains the different kinds: www.gearaid.com/blogs/help/which-sealant-should-i-use
Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help!
Yes, coating of a tent does wear off from use, UV, weather, etc. Yes, there are sprays, brush on products to bring back the waterproofing of the tent (or other product). And yes, I guess your video helps those new to camping. So good for you.
For many, just wonder through a major sporting goods store and find all you need to keep you nice and dry in your tent.
And do this every year at minimum....
North Face Wawona 6 was amazing. It got destroyed in some intense storms from Arkansas down to the gulf in Texas but it was a great tent for 2 weeks. 60mph+ winds and I slept great. To bad you can't buy that model anymore.
My $600 MSR tent is NOT waterproof at all (I learned it after a light rain). So thanks for your tips.
DANG! Nothing worse than finding out your tent isn't waterproof while you're sleeping in it!
Hope you didn't get too wet! These two things should get it sealed up nice for you! My tents were leaking like sieves and now they are sealed up tight!
Would love to know how it works out for you!
Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt All the the sealants u'r talking about are discontinued fr Amazon.
Thanks for great vid.
We have a 9 Person Instant Cabin Tent 14' x 9
And just got back from a trip where one evening it thunderstormed/ rained for about 4 hours HARD!.
the only water that got in this tent was near door where we had a rug to wipe feet .pretty sure it only seeped through due to the rug. Small puddle was it.rain fly and tent kept the rest of unit bone dry . Highly recommend the core tents ( been tent camping for 20 years )
Thanks! Just bought the Scotch Waterproofer for my Alvantor pop up screenhouse/tent and wanted to check out a video first. Nice, clear explanation. Appreciated!
Currently rocking a roman cradle 3p and its absolutely amazing, I've been living in it for 8 months, first through the last few months of a very hot Australian summer, and the last 6 months in Melbourne bi polar 4 season a day weather. Longest streak is 11 days straight in the rain with only a few hours to dry before another 6 days of rain afterwards, no leaks. And 47km/h winds. I cannot beat ground condensation though, and sometimes humidity gets so bad water forms ontop of the inner fly but doesnt come inside the tent, i wake up, see some very small water droplets above me and i just flick them away. I use 2 picnic rugs as an floor lining now, and every 2nd day i empty the tent, pull the rugs out and air them out and i paper towl up the condensation on the floor and spray it with glen 20. I have recently purchased eva floor mats and s mesh ground sheet to add an extra layer under the tent and then inside under the picnic rugs.
Yep...Had an MSR Hubba Hubba 3 person from 2007. Used it maybe 5 times over the years. Always stored it inside the house, in a closet. It has worked well in the past in the rain. This month (March 2024) I used the tent and saw after the first night that there appeared to be condensation droplets inside, which was puzzling to me because the tent was well vented with both ends open, and lots of air flow. The next evening it began to rain. The rain fly became saturated over time and the whole tent was dripping water everywhere....UGH!
First, I LOVE that you've been rocking that tent since 2007. Gear can last a long time if you take care of it! Sucks that your rain fly started wetting out. Hope you were able to get it water proofed again and take it back out on the trail!
This might be a stupid question... can you use that seam sealer on the entire floor inside the tent or the outside of the tent floor that faces the ground? .... I haven't mastered keeping the floor dry yet.... even using a drop tarp. 🤔🤷♀️ I am desperate lol
Ive got a 10 person tent that my family loves, its an Ozark. And we use the scott guard on it every year. Its takes about 3 cans to fully get it done.. . We bought a new one this, same has our last one. Our last one we had for 6 years, we nomally go camping 5 to 6 times a year.
Just getting into overlanding found your channel. Thanks for all the useful information and the humor.
just found you lol. went camping this Last weekend and got DUMPED on in a Coleman echo lake 6. it rained hard for a few hours and even hailed. I think it rained so hard it just plain went straight through the fabric. it was a damp night but luckily I had a cot so I dried out fast the next morning
Hey Zulu! Glad you found the channel!
Cots for the win! I've never tried a cot, but would like to. Seems like it could make for a comfortable night's sleep!
I've found that a fresh treatment of the waterproofing spray can prevent tents from 'wetting out' like that.
Hope you're able to stay dry on the next trip! But even on a rain day it's always good to be in the woods!
Thanks so much for your comment!
@@DoseofDirt cots are awesome if you can handle them in your system. that tent could definitely use a treatment as its a few years old now and sat for a couple years. I actually need to find a bigger tent so 2 cots can fit and was looking at the Coleman festival.
@@ZuluLima47 Nice! Always good to have company!
Great video!! I have a Lightheart gear tent the solong 6. I've had it in some serious storms for a few days at a time with no leaks yet. I did pay the company to seam seal it though 😢. Extra money. I dont understand why they dont just seal it for free for the money they are charging for the tent!!?? Only thing that happened after a few days of rain was it soaked up water and started to sag a little bit. I tightened the guylines and fixed it enough. But yeah no leaks. Oh its made of silnylon. Should have just sealed it myself and saved $$.
Can you put the seam sealer on the inside of the tent so that it is not visible from the outside, or will that not keep it waterproof?
Walrus Terramoto 2.0 is a fabulous tent. I had it in a Hurricane situation in WV and it was dry.
Nice! That's a tent I hadn't heard of before! Thanks for sharing!
I have a Vango force 10 vortex. Had it 15 years +, still waterproof as the day I got it. Bit heavy and over the top for the camping I now do but it has survived the worst North Wales UK can throw at it.
i went on a last minute camping trip. I borrowed an old tent from a friend. When we were setting up, I could see a storm rolling in. Lucky there was a food store a few miles from the site. I bought a box of 30 gallon plastic trash bags. I just ripped the seams of the bags and layered it over the tent. I also put some of the plastic bags on the ground. I stayed nice and dry for days.
$160 North Face Strombreak 2 survived a monsoon downpour in the Everglades the very first use. Not a single drop came in. It was so dry that the ground has a perfect hexagonal dry spot when we took the tent down. Definitely the best entry level tent
NICE! have to love when a tent performs in ridiculous conditions like that!
Ozark Trail 8 person instant tent. I've had it for years and it hasn't leaked. I do always spray my tent with scatch guard when I set it up for the first time and about once every year.
You are a crazy dude! And you got my vote! Will follow you from now on!
Thanks for the tips!
I have a Eureka Desert Canyon tent, I've had it for about 5 years now. I'm in the PNW and seem to get rain on every camping trip, last year it poured for 5 days almost non-stop, but the tent interior stayed totally dry. I always worry when it might start leaking though. I don't have a yard or a space I can set the tent up in, but might order the seam sealant and a spray and use them on my next camping trip, so long as it has a full dry day. I want my tent to last, especially since Eureka is shutting down. If I could afford it I would buy one of the updated versions of ny current tent for when it inevitably needs to be replaced.
Im in the market for a coleman weathermaster 6-person tent and I think Im going to give this weather proofing strategy a try as Ive heard its not so.. mastering the weather lol
Ha! This approach has worked great for my budget tents! I feel a lot better about buying a sub $100 tent and $12 of waterproofing stuff rather than a $300-400 tent for almost the same weight!
Would love to know how it turns out for you!
I'm very interested to how long it took to properly seal a 6m?
Cheers, r
I have a Cabela's cabin tent that I bought about 20 years ago. Until about two years ago, it would stay dry in a downpour. When it started leaking, I re-sealed the seams and sprayed waterproofing on the rain fly. It still leaks. Next step is the hose test to try to diagnose the exact location of the leak(s)
My Big Agnes has been waterproof for years and never leaded ,but this last week in Colo, it leak a little bit at the stiches on the rain fly . looking for a good way to reseal it.
Hey Tray! Those Big Agnes tents are top notch! But eventually the water proofing will fail (they even say it on the website!). This works great for me and should work well on your Big Agnes as well! Just make sure you get the right seam sealer for the fabric of your tent.
Thanks for watching!
Good vid 👍 - past several years I've always sprayed the seems with camp dry ...that very same 3m product - I guess I'll be going a step further with seem seal ...
Thanks, Baker! Ya, sometimes miss church for camping. The hair is definitely staying! 😆
I'll have to try the camp dry as well. Several people have mentioned that it works great!
Thanks for your comment!
Just coming across this channel and video. Great stuff. Question. I guess it depends on how often the tent is out in the elements but any general idea of how often to apply materials?
That is an excellent question I’m not sure on. It definitely will depend a lot on how much you use it and what kind of elements it’s exposed to.
I'm too lazy to paint the seam seal. So I just use that waterproof spray to saturated spray on all the seams, 3 coats. It has been great and never have a leak even on cheap tents for the past 30 years of camping.
Thank you! greatings from La Patagonia, Chile 🌶
I usually just put a tarp over the whole tent and call it good. Its also a sauna in the day which helps during the night
Tents with taped seams are always taped from the underside. Do you think it makes a difference to seam seal them from the outside or inside?
Thanks man first day camping this helped greatly
Hope you stayed dry!
Wow, that was unexpected! Awesome 5 Star video!
Thanks, Emmanuel! Thanks for not docking points for the terrible "can" shake. 🤣
An original Cabelas 4 season Alaskan Guide tent.. Have used for years in the rain & Snow & have Not had to Waterproof it yet, Also holds up Stupid Good to high winds & Insulates the cold out fairly well. Normally run a Propane heater in it when it gets around 15Deg or less outside.
Coughing "mistake"... too funny and much appreciated. Thank you. I needed a laugh.
I got a nature's hike Tent this is the 1st season with it and Has not let in a drop of rain
Hey Gerry! That's awesome! Have to love it when they are fully waterproof right out of the box!
@@DoseofDirt thank you
what's about silicone and the mineral spirits and brush on
Great tip, thank you! Why didn't you spray the tent floor?
Got an Ozark trail 3-4 person tent at good will. Leaked. I'm gonna treat it but lesson learned to take a tarp just in case.
I dunno why... But, the UA-cam algorithm has actually been crushin' it for me the past week or so. Recommended this video to me today (even though I had never heard of the channel before) and I'm pretty glad. Liked & Subscribed for sure, my dude.
P.S. If mom had a problem with the hair then she definitely didn't appreciate the shake. Just sayin'. LOL
😂😂😂😂 I'm still waiting for the text from mom when she sees the video... 🤣🤣
Sometimes it's scary how well the UA-cam algorithm knows us, isn't it? LOL!
So glad you found the channel and truly appreciate your support and kind words!
My tent's integrated groundsheet is letting in water, particularly where I kneel on it. How do I waterproof that?
Hey Anthony! That's no good! I would think that the material your groundsheet is made of is no longer waterproof. Are you referring to the floor of the tent or a separate groundsheet/foot print? If it's the floor of the tent, I would try waterproofing from both sides (floor inside the tent as well as the bottom of the tent from the outside) and see if that takes care of the problem. If not, you may just have to get a separate foot print that is waterproof.
Hopefully you're not having this issue with a new tent? If it's new, I would definitely contact the manufacturer!
I personally used a good cheap Magellan Scout from Academy. I've had it since 2010 and it has served me well. Waterproofing just started failing so this video came at just the right time for me.
Nice! 12 years out of a tent is impressive! Especially since the waterproofing is just now starting to fail. sounds like you picked up a solid tent! Would love to know how the waterproofing turns out for you.
Thanks for your comment!
Aren’t you reducing the moisture permeability/breathability inside by spraying that on the outside?
Can u recommend a good sealer for tent canvas that is cotton poly blend?
Hi Gigi. Unfortunately I don't any experience with waterproofing canvas tents. I've read that some like this same scotchguard spray, but I can't speak from experience. Looks like there may be some helpful videos or articles on the web though! Here's one that seems pretty detailed: tentcampingtrips.com/how-to-waterproof-a-canvas-tent/
Good luck!
Do you know if you can use the Naptha silicone method on polyester tents without averse effects?
Good question...I'd like to know too
I'll admit I'm not super familiar with this, but just spent some time looking into it. Definitely something I'd like to try. If I can find time, to try it I'll let make a video about it
@@mymai5859 I'll admit I'm not super familiar with this, but just spent some time looking into it. Definitely something I'd like to try. If I can find time, to try it I'll let make a video about it
@@DoseofDirt Thank you for your reply & Great videos. Cheers from Aotearoa/New Zealand
Got 2 adventure kings swags. Waterproof when I set then up. When I lent then to friends they "leak". Knowing how to propley rig a tent even if it seams simple some people don't know the smaller things
Really appreciate your advice in this video. I have an Ozark Trail WT111208 and I think it's polyester and nylon but I'm not sure. Is there a way to tell? The label doesn't say
Hmm, I'm surprised the label doesn't say. Some of those tents will have a tag on the tent or on the bag. I would check both of those places. You can also check the product listing on Ozark's website. What a pain that it isn't labeled!
Sierra 6 from Berger. Simply perfect. Greetings from Germany.
Bought a Portal cabin tent that sleeps 8 on Amazon. Every seam is taped on the inside. I was tested in driving rain in the Catskills and is perfectly waterproof.
My Eureka 4-person tent I bought 15 years ago. It is more than waterproof and I have seemed sealed and sprayed once in the last 3 years.
I'm not even going out for camping, I got an instant popup tent that I use at the park and the beach when I go out with my baby, and yes, showers do come down when we are at the park, and I'm glad I can use this technique to seal our tent so at least we have a place to hide when the rain comes down.