Came here to say, thank you for showing some love to Stoeger. These guns are very underrated, reliable, and fun to shoot. I have the STR-9S (+1500rds) Combat and STR-9SC (+400rds). Love those guns. As stated, just need more holster support. When your looking for a good bang for your buck, these are it. And it surprises me when you see budget list and they always include a Taurus but never these. I own a Taurus and it's trash compared to these. Just my two cents. Great review. Cheers!
Stoeger STR 9 MC is everything that you stated after going through several different firearms and talking to other colleagues I say it’s better than the shield plus but not better than the shield plus performance center due to the trigger the size is perfect. the grip and handling is fantastic
I have a stoeger str 9c, l like stoeger. I think they’re highly underrated and present a lot value for the money. I think the stock trigger is fantastic. Distinctly better than a stock glock trigger. They’re (str 9c) easy to shoot and accurate. Glocks have a learning curve in my opinion to become accurate with them in my opinion. I have 2330 rounds through mine. I noted the same cons as you. Holster support is an issue. I wish more holsters providers would support the brand. Another con l’ve noticed since something was brought to my attention on another gun namely a shadow system. Is internal wear. Only had this gun for less than a year. The metal parts the slide rides on is showing a bit of wear. Which caused me to look at my other guns. My Glocks aren’t showing the same type of wear in these areas. And l have almost double the round count. My shadow systems MR however is, and showing a bit of wear on the polymer, where the guide rod sits. With only 780 rounds through it. Not good for a 1100.00 gun. So at the price point, is the metal stoeger is using a bit softer, to get at that price point? Is this normal? Hasn’t affected functionality in any way yet. But something I’m watching. But my slide squeaks now on my stoeger press checking or while locking the slide back. So my overall concern would be long term durability of these guns. But l would definitely choose and carry this over a Taurus. Stoeger offers a lot of value to beginners and veteran shooters and there’s really nothing you really need to change. Also one other con. The optic cuts are not deep enough to co witness with the stock sights. And the iron sight options, the stock sights are great. But if you want suppressor height sights not sure if Glock sights will work. And they are hard as hell to try to move to adjust the windage. With a sight pusher because of the angle of the iron sights. On a different note, I think you just got a bad mete mc 9. I have two and l EDC them not one out of battery issue. But great review on this pistol.
I just took advantage of a couple of deals on PSA Full size Dagger slide with optic cut, threaded barrel and suppressor height sights and the "SW1" slide cut fo $200. The full size frame for $50. Even with about $30 for the transfer fee to my local FFL, that's still less than $300!!!
Im glad I bought my Canik MC9 before seeing this video. I love mine, and several who shot mine love it, too. I'll have to go back to that video to see when you reviewed it. The earlier models, pre-production runs had seceral issues. Anyway, I love my MC9, but now I am thinking about the Str-9mc. Thank you for the review. As with all reviews, I try to get a feel for the reviewer's likes and dislikes and maybe prejudices. Thanks again fr the review.
PSA has Ruger Max-9s for $249 right now... Hard to beat bout the same specs as the STR-9MC and comes optics ready at that price. And, of course.... 'Murica! My only grip with Stoeger is their mags are more often outta stock than in stock.... and the mags are slightly pricey when you can find them.
Turkish pistols stay winning, I know the canik MC9 has its issues but overall they’re really giving us poors a lot of great options. You can even put Langdon parts in Girsan’s beretta clones. Regarding holsters I wonder if something like the phlster floodlight TLR 7 would work?
Stoeger is definitely bringing it! It just seems like they don’t have much of a marketing budget. These are great pistols and I’d love to see them gain some traction.
Dang, just saw one of these last week for 149 after rebate. Maybe I should've jumped on it. Just wish it had a manual safety. I don't personally mind it missing, but the wife is really uncomfortable with guns in the house that don't have one.
@@NightwoodGuns she didn't grow up around guns, so she feels more comfortable with them if they have a safety. Also because of the kids in the house (even though any guns stay locked up)
I just got the SC for my first gun, but you're right the biggest issue is just not enough out there so there's no grips, nearly no holsters, magazines hard to find, etc.
Yep, it seems they wanted to release a cheap gun into the market and not invest in its accessibility. They didn’t even have the money for marketing 😂 At least the gun is awesome. Hopefully it catches on!
I keep forgetting Stoeger is even a brand. I'm surprised I don't hear about them more often. The trigger guard undercut looks wonderful, but I'd have to hold it to see if it fits my hand. I had to buy a Hogue for my G3c to overcome the long trigger pull. The Stoeger STR-9SC looks promising with the handle hump to add depth to the grip.
I have had multiple stoegers and currently have a str-9sc and have never had any issue with them matter of a fact i got my current str-9sc on sale for $219.99 with a $50mir so $169.99 which is a deal. I do want to state though its only a deal if you keep it as is and not looking for any mods but for that price i only got 1 10rnd mag and mags are $35 each and i bought 3(2 13rnd and 1 more 10rnd) thats $105 not counting tax and shipping or the $40 holster that puts me at $449.57 all in after transfer fee and at that price there is many options out there and that brings me to my point on this gun from this vid. Right now the base model is selling around $359.99 with a $50mir with no optics cut and 2 mags but the enhanced model being about $100 more opens up a lot of competition. I have seen just today the hellcat gear up pak for $399 or the canik mete mc for $399 or a shield plus or for $299.99 so that's the issue i think for this gun is if you stick with the cheapest option it is a deal, however if you want the better option it puts it in line with big name options. Dont get me wrong i love my stoeger and dont regret my purchase it is a great gun and extremely accurate but right now as of this moment theres other options too that i think many people would consider over the stoeger.
Brett, can I plz post my new Micro9 Battle Royal STR-9mc vs Shield Plus vs Max9 ua-cam.com/video/2EOJcyaiDKs/v-deo.html The Stoeger has become 1 of my Favorite CCWs in my To 5 Rotation & I shredded the best I have w/ a New Model STR-9 yesterday smoking fast on 3 attacker drills!
@NightwoodGuns Thanks much appreciate it. I truly can't believe how fast I was yesterday w STR-9 and carrying the MC now. Waiting on that guest invite for a podcast, maybe I can talk defensive display stories, SWAT, MMA etc too
A few weeks ago I saw this pistol And it was $429. It comes with 3 Magazines. I loved write when I picked it up. I have a sig 365 And I love this gun. I've had it for many many years. But I am left handed. How hard would it be for me to get a holster for this?
Thanks for the review, I got this before the rebate.....sad. My experience is pretty much the same as what you described. The gun performed 100% reliable out of the box with at least 6 different brands of ammo. It's now on 500 rounds without a single hiccup and compared to the P365, I don't find it any more snappy or uncomfortable to shoot. The two biggest downsides are the slide serration and the sharp rear sights which digs into your skin. Hopefully it will gain some traction and will have more aftermarket support in the future.
I will stick with my Shield plus for a micro carry. It looks a lot thinner than this. I also have a Glock 48. It does not look like a bad gun but I see no need for another concealment 9MM
Just bought the str9sc I believe for my wife. It’s the one that resembles the Glock 26 in size. I also just ordered the str40 from Buds. Figured for 300 with a 50 dollar rebate why not.
my homie has the str9c (not mc), and he really enjoys it as his carry. I've gotten to shoot it a couple of times and I think these are underrated as well, namely the good ergonomics and trigger
Awesome review, the p10c is still regularly $300, which if you are willing to have slightly bigger is the way to go. But this is pretty awesome. God if this thing just had some crossover holster compatibility with the 43x or hellcat it would be amazing. Or if LAS carried a holster.
For a bigger compact, the P10C on sale is nearly impossible to beat for the price 👍 I agree about the holster compatibility with the Stoeger. If we could just get a major brand like LAS, etc on board it would be incredible.
And even if you want to go smaller, you can find the P10S for around 350 regularly. Just picked up the P10S Optics Ready version for 375. You can even find the even smaller P10M for sub $250 regularly
I remember when the Taurus GX4 was the new hotness. Bought one because it was cheap ($263 out the door), with two 11 round Mecgar magazines (I bought the +2 extensions and springs combo, for 13+1 and spare 13 capacity). The only changes I made were night sights and Hogue grip. After 250 round break in (and over 1,500 rounds total) including JHP, FMJ and Tula steel case it’s performed without any hiccups. Best part is I can find aftermarket support (Glock sights, kydex IWB holster). It’s accurate at self-defense distances, but I can reliably hit what I’m aiming at out to 50 yards.
@@NightwoodGunsof course no other manufacturer has ever had a recall. I give Taurus credit over some others, i.e. Sig, for publicly recognizing the issue with those early GX4’s and initiating the recall. They could’ve ignored and/or denied the issue like Sig did for so long with their P365 but they didn’t. I’m not trashing on Sig or the P365 at all, it’s a great pistol and loved by many and Sig is deservedly a well regarded manufacturer. I’m simply pointing out that even the most respected manufacturers have had issues and Taurus has earned some measure of respect for their response when it was their turn. Now, how about you get this Stoeger out there alongside the Taurus GX4XL and the Sig P364XL for a comparison review. Maybe you would think of others to fit into that category to include as well. Your findings would be well worth watching. In the meantime, keep up the good work.
50 yards is pretty tough for most compact pistols, most of the guys I shoot with even with full size they have problems hitting at 50 yds on steel, you might be a little hard on yourself, misread your comment you do hit it 50 yards with that wow you're a good shot
Stoeger. I think of shotguns when I hear Stoeger. With that being said, I really like the feature packed STR line and it's reasonable price tag. At this point, I purchase solely from American manufacturers. I would go with a Shield Plus, Equalizer, or SD9VE before this #Stoeger #CoffeeLoophole Nice review Brett
How would you compare the texture on the grip to the M&P Shield Plus? It looks like it's a little more aggressive, but just a little bit more... not by a lot.
Too close to call. It’s pretty close to the same. Like you said, maybe a hair more aggressive. I do prefer the surface area of the grip texture on the Shield Plus, though.
I know people like to clown on Taurus, but I love my G3c... for the money it's ridiculous (and it came with 3 steel mags!) and on top of that there is a 3D printable frame called the FOSS Cannon for it. I think I ran about 200 rounds at the range with the G3c guts in the FOSS Cannon and didn't have a single issue.
I’m glad you mentioned holster availability. That’s something a lot of new gun owners don’t think about when they go out and buy a less popular gun that’s otherwise a nice gun.
@@NightwoodGuns Sticky holsters are great as a temporary fix, and it's pretty easy to make Kydex holster if you're a DIY person (lots of instructional videos online).
Got mine back, was still a bit high but was really able to crank it down to make it good & filmed comparing it 3-way battle vs Shield Plus & Max9, 25 yards & JHPs too!
Looks like a nice one. You've peaked my interest. 😉 Just a thought on the Glock triggers -- A while back I looked into Glock to see if they had ever had any kind of mishaps like the supposed P320 issues, and I couldn't find anything. I did, however, find a LOT of reports of pedestrians AND police officers accidentally shooting one another due to the trigger, which led to a lot of lawsuits. My theory is that perhaps Glock got so 'scurred' of being sued further that they decided to make the crappiest trigger possible to ensure that they cover their bootums.
😂 That’s an interesting theory! The transition from double action guns to striker guns definitely caused a lot of negligent “booger hook on the bang switch” incidents. But the G43x/G48 triggers are particularly awful.
@@NightwoodGuns I went back to the store today and walked out with an STR-9MC! I picked it up again and looked at it and just loved the way she felt in my hand. Super excited to have this gun! Your video really opened my eyes to the gun itself so I thank you again! Also came with an extra mag in the box which is always nice!
compelling review. Watched our MC9 review last night, I was all set to buy one.... now I'm concerned. I'm new to your reviews, do you show shooting results? 5/7 yard accuracy for a defensive pistol? Are the magazines proprietary or do they cross over with anything else? I'll check out your full size Stoeger review.
I have two MC 9’s and l carry them. I’ve not had an out of battery issue at all. I think they’re fantastic and l’ve tried every micro compact. the mete works for me. Range USA has them available to rent, if they’re by you. Rent one. Another gun with exceptional value and trust my life with it.
Accuracy and shooting results are more-so a reflection of the shooter instead of the gun itself. All of these pistols are accurate out to any practical distance. As far as I know the mags are proprietary. I show shooting results in videos that focus on drills and shooting performance. 👍
I bought a STR-9MC yesterday. Unlike the description on their website, mine came with a 10 round magazine with a pinky extender base plate. Is this removable, leaving a flush mount base plate or do I have to somehow get a flush mount base plate?
@@NightwoodGuns thx mate. I’ll try the feel for both and make a decision. Granted I find decent pricing. I’m assuming you can’t go wrong with either correct ? I had a G3C but got taken as evidence from the police unfortunately 😔
@@MastermindRell Man, that sucks… Keep in mind, both are budget guns so both can have problems. That being said, they are about equal. So yeah, either way you’ll be getting the same quality 👍
I've been buying up all the Walther PPQ that hit my local classifieds. Been getting them at $300. Not that I'd buy the Stoeger (not even sure if I'd take the time to email for T&E) but have you shot the PPQ? Thoughts comparing the two?
The PPQ is a great gun! As far as full size guns go I’d take one over a Stoeger any day 👍 I’ve never emailed a company for T&E, do they send stuff to pretty much anyone?
@@NightwoodGuns It depends. Some companies are weird and you have to go back and forth for a week for a $600 gun... some will straight up send you $14,000 worth of guns (That was two guns. From the owner's personal collection) with a 20 min convo. And one in particular, I'm going to call out by name because they aren't what they used to be 5 years ago... Staccato fkd me over promising me a gun for a few months and when the time came, gave me a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you like, I can send you a list of non-shilly companies that will send you guns but not expect certain revu00s.
@@NightwoodGuns With SHOT coming up... T&E is a mess. You won't get anything until Feb now. Everyone has guns under actual lock and key (anyone smart) so they don't disappear at some YTbrs house for the multi-billion dollar industry event. HOWEVER, you don't WAIT until Feb to ask... you start asking in Nov through Jan to get on 'lists' for samples. It helps if you keep your ear to the ground to know what is launching and ask early, because places like DemoRanch, and Honest Outlaw of course are going to get first position on the sample list.
@@m4rvinmartian Interesting. Not surprised about Staccato, tbh 🤣 Yeah, shoot me an email or a DM on Insta when you get some time, I appreciate that 👍 I just want to stay away from shill-city 😅
Could you see if the stoeger slide fits onto a glock 43x or 43 frame? And if a glock slide can fit onto the stoeger frame? The stoeger compact can fit onto glock 19s, and I think the sc can fir the glock 26, and full size can fit the glock 17
This caught my attention somehow and has been on my radar for a couple months. On paper I like everything about it. I think you brought home all the considerations perfectly.
Well...I watched it to the end, liked and commented. I don't live in AZ. It's cold out. I will carry a full size DW 1911 and not think about Micro 9s until April or May. Always enjoy your vids!
Seems like a great one and done micro aside from holster supply but I still lean Glock or Sig even tho likewise not a micro fan. There are more stories of Glock/S&W/Beretta/Sig even H&K QC issues simply because more people use em and will post about it even if it’s small percentage of actual problems.
🔥Muddy River Tactical makes great holsters and already has one for the Stoeger STR9 I put a request to them as well. They will likely have it before anyone else. So definitely request STR9 MC from Muddy River Tactical
have put over 2k rounds thru mine..got the optic ready one..not one misfire...ya its a snappy lil one but it is accurate as hell ..the mags have gotten a little easier to load with the mageula but still cant put all 13 in.
I keep a couple Sticky holsters around as a backup and most micro/compact 9's fit perfectly in them. I used to carry my Hi-Point C9 in one and had no trouble. I'm pretty sure the Stoeger would also fit. I know my Taurus GX4 fits (currently using Taurus' proprietary GX4 holster).
Great review! Subbed and stayed til the end. I have no intention of getting this gun, as I have a P365 and LCP Max for my daily carry, and I'm happy with them. The Max has every upgrade available from Mcarbo, and it really makes a difference. Both have Hogue grip sleeves as well. I will be getting the STR-9F in a couple of days.
Man, I got this gun recently. Love everything about it, but it shoots 6" high and a 4-5 week repair time after stoeger gets it back. Huge disappointment and makes me regret my purchase.
Apparently they had a bad batch of sights go out after my review. A few people have commented on it but they’ve all gotten it fixed by now. Thanks for sharing your experience, it’s a valuable data point 👍
Hello Nightwood Guns. This is the first of your videos I've seen, thanks for a great review!...New sub here. I like what I see and hear about the STR-9MC, except for the lack of holster availability and after-market support, and we don't yet know about it's reliability. At this point in time, I would rather go with the Taurus GX4-XL (non-t.o.r.o.) In my opinion they have a damn good concealed carry defense trigger, I can shoot them accurately with my x-large hands with x-long fingers, after-market support is good, and so is reliability. I don't concern myself with the drop safety recall anymore, as that issue has been dealt with. And almost all pistol manufacturers have had problems with their new models.
It's 300$ because it probably doesn't come with the same level of customer service and lifetime warranties. There are a lot of cheap copycat international guns, but it depends on what you need. If you plan on practicing and putting wear and tear on the weapon, it's a no-go. It’s not comparable to a CR920 until its optic system works just as well!
I am with you I have the p365 and I am not a fan of micro compacts. The sight radius and snappiness. I have issues with my hands and holding smaller guns and shooting fifty rounds and my hands will start locking up and going numb. (Carpal tunnel issues genetics I guess). So holding full size guns it doesn’t bother me as much until about 300 rds. But I have been looking for one of these just to hide somewhere for a backup. Thanks for the video. I didn’t know you wrote books. I myself am an artist and thought about many times creating books for kids. Keep it up boss man.
Walther PPQ M2 in 9mm. Look on your local classifieds, and then offer them $300. Keep going til you get one. Got one in my SoB right now. Very comfortable gun.
This is a great cheap micro gun to stash, for sure! 😎👍 What kind of art do you do? You should definitely do those kids books, if you don’t you’ll probably always regret it. Share your art with the world!
I'm sure my LGS probably won't have any anytime soon, but I'll be keeping my eyes peeled. I'm curious, have you ever gotten your hands on the Kimber R7? I was thoroughly impressed with it for the feature set. They have them now for 520 online as a tacpac/gearup package with a holster and 5 mags and am thinking of picking up another one after i traded mine off last year.
we keep hearing this for the price saying, someone who had this pistol tell us, if the name said glock, hk, walther, fn any of the higher end brands would you still rave about it or is this just another budget firearm that you'd rather put a couple extra dollar with and get something more expensive
I have one of these, and absolutely love it. The mags do take some time, to break in. As far as holsters, I have a Hellcat holster, from Alien Gear. Since it is virtually a Hellcat... but shoots better... I feel confident with it as a edc, in that holster.
Nerd out, brother!!! I agree with everything you said. Another review I watched said that the optic cover was fastened down with flat head style screws. Lol. I'm not sure if there's a 1st and 2nd generation...
You mentioned true shot you got a code for them? 👀
Manufacturer rebates. Usually 50.00
nightwoodguns-ammo 😎👍
This just for ammo and not the gun correct.
@@MastermindRell correct 👍
I have the STR-9C and dang what a gun for the price!!! I love it!!
Ive been hearing good things about stoeger firearms. It might be the next canik.
If the STR series catches on, it very well could be. I’m getting in now while they are crazy cheap.
Well Canik and Stoeger are made in Turkey 🤔
The Turks seem to know how to make good,reliable firearms
Came here to say, thank you for showing some love to Stoeger. These guns are very underrated, reliable, and fun to shoot. I have the STR-9S (+1500rds) Combat and STR-9SC (+400rds). Love those guns. As stated, just need more holster support. When your looking for a good bang for your buck, these are it. And it surprises me when you see budget list and they always include a Taurus but never these. I own a Taurus and it's trash compared to these. Just my two cents. Great review. Cheers!
You know what’s up! 😎👍 Glad you enjoyed the review!
I've owned one for about 4 months. So far so good. Great with a Shield SMSC. N8 Tactical makes a decent holster for it.
Very nice! I didn’t know N8 was making a holster for it 👍
Is there a cheaper red do that I can use, but works well???
Stoeger STR 9 MC is everything that you stated after going through several different firearms and talking to other colleagues I say it’s better than the shield plus but not better than the shield plus performance center due to the trigger the size is perfect. the grip and handling is fantastic
Nice, I’m glad you like it! 😎👍
I have a stoeger str 9c, l like stoeger. I think they’re highly underrated and present a lot value for the money.
I think the stock trigger is fantastic. Distinctly better than a stock glock trigger.
They’re (str 9c) easy to shoot and accurate. Glocks have a learning curve in my opinion to become accurate with them in my opinion.
I have 2330 rounds through mine.
I noted the same cons as you. Holster support is an issue. I wish more holsters providers would support the brand.
Another con l’ve noticed since something was brought to my attention on another gun namely a shadow system.
Is internal wear.
Only had this gun for less than a year. The metal parts the slide rides on is showing a bit of wear.
Which caused me to look at my other guns.
My Glocks aren’t showing the same type of wear in these areas. And l have almost double the round count.
My shadow systems MR however is, and showing a bit of wear on the polymer, where the guide rod sits. With only 780 rounds through it. Not good for a 1100.00 gun.
So at the price point, is the metal stoeger is using a bit softer, to get at that price point?
Is this normal? Hasn’t affected functionality in any way yet. But something I’m watching.
But my slide squeaks now on my stoeger press checking or while locking the slide back.
So my overall concern would be long term durability of these guns.
But l would definitely choose and carry this over a Taurus.
Stoeger offers a lot of value to beginners and veteran shooters and there’s really nothing you really need to change.
Also one other con. The optic cuts are not deep enough to co witness with the stock sights.
And the iron sight options, the stock sights are great.
But if you want suppressor height sights not sure if Glock sights will work.
And they are hard as hell to try to move to adjust the windage. With a sight pusher because of the angle of the iron sights.
On a different note, I think you just got a bad mete mc 9. I have two and l EDC them not one out of battery issue.
But great review on this pistol.
Thanks for sharing your experience 😎👍
I owned the 9c and the 9sc may get this one too after your review..
Very nice! 😎👍
I just took advantage of a couple of deals on PSA Full size Dagger slide with optic cut, threaded barrel and suppressor height sights and the "SW1" slide cut fo $200. The full size frame for $50. Even with about $30 for the transfer fee to my local FFL, that's still less than $300!!!
Very nice! 🙌
Im glad I bought my Canik MC9 before seeing this video. I love mine, and several who shot mine love it, too. I'll have to go back to that video to see when you reviewed it. The earlier models, pre-production runs had seceral issues. Anyway, I love my MC9, but now I am thinking about the Str-9mc. Thank you for the review. As with all reviews, I try to get a feel for the reviewer's likes and dislikes and maybe prejudices. Thanks again fr the review.
Absolutely, I’m just one opinion in a sea of many. Enjoy! 😎👍
Cant always judge a gun by the price. The CZ PIO, Beretta APX, Shield Plus all under 400 and great pistols.
Shield isn't great. It's just 'is'.
@@m4rvinmartian ok, dependable was word I was looking for. Whatever works for ya🔫
Fair enough 👍 There are some decent budget options out there!
Beretta apx amazing gun , I shouldn't of sold it 😢😢😢
I might add the iwi masada slim it's right there with em on performance and quality for around $430
I just watched your top 5.
How about a top five for…
- on a budget
- carry to home defense
- compact
PSA has Ruger Max-9s for $249 right now... Hard to beat bout the same specs as the STR-9MC and comes optics ready at that price. And, of course.... 'Murica! My only grip with Stoeger is their mags are more often outta stock than in stock.... and the mags are slightly pricey when you can find them.
Turkish pistols stay winning, I know the canik MC9 has its issues but overall they’re really giving us poors a lot of great options. You can even put Langdon parts in Girsan’s beretta clones.
Regarding holsters I wonder if something like the phlster floodlight TLR 7 would work?
Yep, for the most part Turkish pistols are squared away for a great price. 👍
I own the bigger one and it’s a good gun I am interested to see how this feels in the hand nice review. Thanks.
Stoeger is definitely bringing it! It just seems like they don’t have much of a marketing budget. These are great pistols and I’d love to see them gain some traction.
CZ P10C for compact, P10S for sub and P10M for micro. Can find the M for sub $300. And its a CZ. Stupid reliable, excellent fit/finish and quality
Yeah, the P10 series on sale is hard to beat. Unfortunately the M is at a capacity deficit.
Dang, just saw one of these last week for 149 after rebate. Maybe I should've jumped on it.
Just wish it had a manual safety. I don't personally mind it missing, but the wife is really uncomfortable with guns in the house that don't have one.
That’s a crazy good deal! Does she have a reason for wanting a manual safety, or is she just uneasy around guns?
@@NightwoodGuns she didn't grow up around guns, so she feels more comfortable with them if they have a safety. Also because of the kids in the house (even though any guns stay locked up)
Turkish handguns are usually pretty good
try canik a little bit better
Yep, they usually are 👍
@@samkamyafes2139 That’s what I thought until my Mete MC9 🤦♂️
Beretta owns Stoger.
Just love your work. Wishing you the best on your Gundie Nomination. 🏆
Thanks, I appreciate it 😎👍
I just got the SC for my first gun, but you're right the biggest issue is just not enough out there so there's no grips, nearly no holsters, magazines hard to find, etc.
Yep, it seems they wanted to release a cheap gun into the market and not invest in its accessibility. They didn’t even have the money for marketing 😂 At least the gun is awesome. Hopefully it catches on!
For a micro it shoots and handles extremely well for a 350 dollar out the door price fits my hand nicely
Agreed 😎👍
Excellent review.
Glad you enjoyed 😎👍
Have heard lots of good things about Stoeger. Made in Turkey, but owned by Beretta I believe. Good stuff!
Owned by Benelli who is owned by Beretta, so you are correct! 😂👍
I keep forgetting Stoeger is even a brand. I'm surprised I don't hear about them more often. The trigger guard undercut looks wonderful, but I'd have to hold it to see if it fits my hand. I had to buy a Hogue for my G3c to overcome the long trigger pull. The Stoeger STR-9SC looks promising with the handle hump to add depth to the grip.
Yeah, Stoeger is doing a surprisingly good job with these 👍
Any further updates on this Stoger? Just wanted to know if it’s holding up okay?
Nice review! Is it juat me or does Brett (when in sunglasses) have a resemblance with Mike Ross from the tv show Suits?
I’ll take it! 😎
I have had multiple stoegers and currently have a str-9sc and have never had any issue with them matter of a fact i got my current str-9sc on sale for $219.99 with a $50mir so $169.99 which is a deal. I do want to state though its only a deal if you keep it as is and not looking for any mods but for that price i only got 1 10rnd mag and mags are $35 each and i bought 3(2 13rnd and 1 more 10rnd) thats $105 not counting tax and shipping or the $40 holster that puts me at $449.57 all in after transfer fee and at that price there is many options out there and that brings me to my point on this gun from this vid. Right now the base model is selling around $359.99 with a $50mir with no optics cut and 2 mags but the enhanced model being about $100 more opens up a lot of competition. I have seen just today the hellcat gear up pak for $399 or the canik mete mc for $399 or a shield plus or for $299.99 so that's the issue i think for this gun is if you stick with the cheapest option it is a deal, however if you want the better option it puts it in line with big name options. Dont get me wrong i love my stoeger and dont regret my purchase it is a great gun and extremely accurate but right now as of this moment theres other options too that i think many people would consider over the stoeger.
Well said! Thanks for your input! 👍
What site buds grab a g sportsman exc?
@@JhonVargas-h8o grab a gun, but sadly promo ended last month
Brett, can I plz post my new Micro9 Battle Royal STR-9mc vs Shield Plus vs Max9 ua-cam.com/video/2EOJcyaiDKs/v-deo.html The Stoeger has become 1 of my Favorite CCWs in my To 5 Rotation & I shredded the best I have w/ a New Model STR-9 yesterday smoking fast on 3 attacker drills!
Nice! Absolutely 👍
@NightwoodGuns Thanks much appreciate it. I truly can't believe how fast I was yesterday w STR-9 and carrying the MC now. Waiting on that guest invite for a podcast, maybe I can talk defensive display stories, SWAT, MMA etc too
I’ve been really interested in this.
I like mine! 👍
A few weeks ago I saw this pistol And it was $429. It comes with 3 Magazines. I loved write when I picked it up. I have a sig 365 And I love this gun. I've had it for many many years. But I am left handed. How hard would it be for me to get a holster for this?
I linked two holster options in the description 👍
Not into micro pistols but great review sir
Glad you enjoyed. 👍
Thanks for the review, I got this before the rebate.....sad. My experience is pretty much the same as what you described. The gun performed 100% reliable out of the box with at least 6 different brands of ammo. It's now on 500 rounds without a single hiccup and compared to the P365, I don't find it any more snappy or uncomfortable to shoot. The two biggest downsides are the slide serration and the sharp rear sights which digs into your skin. Hopefully it will gain some traction and will have more aftermarket support in the future.
Fingers crossed that the popularity picks up! 😎👍 It certainly impressed me!
I have eyed these and was considering other options. You convinced me. likely pick up one now
I will stick with my Shield plus for a micro carry. It looks a lot thinner than this. I also have a Glock 48. It does not look like a bad gun but I see no need for another concealment 9MM
Fair enough 👍
234 on buds with rebate!
I just looked and that's for the sc and the c models.
Just bought the str9sc I believe for my wife. It’s the one that resembles the Glock 26 in size. I also just ordered the str40 from Buds. Figured for 300 with a 50 dollar rebate why not.
Hard to go wrong for that price 😎👍
my homie has the str9c (not mc), and he really enjoys it as his carry. I've gotten to shoot it a couple of times and I think these are underrated as well, namely the good ergonomics and trigger
Very nice! I agree 😎👍
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Awesome review, the p10c is still regularly $300, which if you are willing to have slightly bigger is the way to go. But this is pretty awesome.
God if this thing just had some crossover holster compatibility with the 43x or hellcat it would be amazing. Or if LAS carried a holster.
For a bigger compact, the P10C on sale is nearly impossible to beat for the price 👍 I agree about the holster compatibility with the Stoeger. If we could just get a major brand like LAS, etc on board it would be incredible.
@@NightwoodGuns I love the P10C , slap a TLR1 or X300 on it and it shoots like a .380. It just doesn’t move
And even if you want to go smaller, you can find the P10S for around 350 regularly. Just picked up the P10S Optics Ready version for 375. You can even find the even smaller P10M for sub $250 regularly
I have the spr9 it's a great gun and I agree about everything you saying
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I remember when the Taurus GX4 was the new hotness. Bought one because it was cheap ($263 out the door), with two 11 round Mecgar magazines (I bought the +2 extensions and springs combo, for 13+1 and spare 13 capacity).
The only changes I made were night sights and Hogue grip. After 250 round break in (and over 1,500 rounds total) including JHP, FMJ and Tula steel case it’s performed without any hiccups. Best part is I can find aftermarket support (Glock sights, kydex IWB holster). It’s accurate at self-defense distances, but I can reliably hit what I’m aiming at out to 50 yards.
I’ve heard great things about the GX4 👍 (except for the recall…)
@@NightwoodGunsof course no other manufacturer has ever had a recall. I give Taurus credit over some others, i.e. Sig, for publicly recognizing the issue with those early GX4’s and initiating the recall. They could’ve ignored and/or denied the issue like Sig did for so long with their P365 but they didn’t. I’m not trashing on Sig or the P365 at all, it’s a great pistol and loved by many and Sig is deservedly a well regarded manufacturer. I’m simply pointing out that even the most respected manufacturers have had issues and Taurus has earned some measure of respect for their response when it was their turn.
Now, how about you get this Stoeger out there alongside the Taurus GX4XL and the Sig P364XL for a comparison review. Maybe you would think of others to fit into that category to include as well. Your findings would be well worth watching. In the meantime, keep up the good work.
50 yards is pretty tough for most compact pistols, most of the guys I shoot with even with full size they have problems hitting at 50 yds on steel, you might be a little hard on yourself, misread your comment you do hit it 50 yards with that wow you're a good shot
Stoeger. I think of shotguns when I hear Stoeger. With that being said, I really like the feature packed STR line and it's reasonable price tag. At this point, I purchase solely from American manufacturers. I would go with a Shield Plus, Equalizer, or SD9VE before this #Stoeger #CoffeeLoophole Nice review Brett
I 100% understand that 🇺🇸👍
Have you seen that new SD9 2.0? Any thoughts?@@NightwoodGuns
Lol, i don't like micro guns either. If you had to carry a micro, which one would you choose?
That’s a tough question because each one has something that I hate about it 😂 But I’d go with a Shield Plus Performance Center 4-inch
The way ur talking about this gun just made me love it and want it at the same time
It’s hard to go wrong for the price 🤷♂️
Where did u get it from I've been looking for the optics ready and can't find it
@@antrios3111 Got it from my local shop, but I had to order it since they didn’t have the optic ready model in stock.
How would you compare the texture on the grip to the M&P Shield Plus? It looks like it's a little more aggressive, but just a little bit more... not by a lot.
Too close to call. It’s pretty close to the same. Like you said, maybe a hair more aggressive. I do prefer the surface area of the grip texture on the Shield Plus, though.
I know people like to clown on Taurus, but I love my G3c... for the money it's ridiculous (and it came with 3 steel mags!) and on top of that there is a 3D printable frame called the FOSS Cannon for it. I think I ran about 200 rounds at the range with the G3c guts in the FOSS Cannon and didn't have a single issue.
My brother in law runs a Taurus G3C and I’m honestly impressed by it for the money 😂👍
The trigger is too long and trash
@@TheDoomWizard BUENO ES LO QUE HAY,,,,,,UNA BASURA COMO LA G3C, ME SALVO LA VIDA Y EL DELINCUETE TENIA UNA GLOCK 17....Y EL PERDIO...
I’m glad you mentioned holster availability. That’s something a lot of new gun owners don’t think about when they go out and buy a less popular gun that’s otherwise a nice gun.
Exactly. Nothing like buying your first carry gun only to find out no one makes a holster for it… 😬
@@NightwoodGuns Sticky holsters are great as a temporary fix, and it's pretty easy to make Kydex holster if you're a DIY person (lots of instructional videos online).
Found a nice tuckable carbon fiber holster on ebay
Hello there. If you compare str mc9 vs canik mc9, which one is better. What do you think?
I’d take the STR any day because it hasn’t broken 😂
@@NightwoodGuns Thank you sir. Very clear for me now. I will go for str. Wish you the best 🙋🏼♂️
I woud call it "Affordable " not cheap, if you know what I mean
Yes, exactly 👍
I believe the retainer that holds the spring in the slide failed already so the spring just pushed out of front of gun
Is it the recoil spring that is hanging out?
The entire recoil spring assembly. Is how its listed on parts list
Great review! Looks like I will be visiting Bear Arms soon.
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It’s nice but I wouldn’t call it a micro pistol 🔫
Yeah I'm looking for something really tiny micro-sized 9 mm striker-fired stop this would be my winner and it might be but little large for micro
Thought micro was the price lol
Same size ( but thinner ) as a GX4
Bout as small as you can get
And it uses full size mags
After your "shower gun" video, I have 2 STRs and 1 STRc. I gave $232 to 292 for them... out the door
Very nice! 😎👍 They are impressive pistols and extremely affordable
Got mine back, was still a bit high but was really able to crank it down to make it good & filmed comparing it 3-way battle vs Shield Plus & Max9, 25 yards & JHPs too!
Very nice! Glad to hear it! 👍
Your shooting form impressed me.
Once in a blue moon you run across a “gun-tuber” who can actually shoot 👍 There are a few of us 😂
@@NightwoodGuns Just a few.
Some 40$ amazon holsters are not too shabby. Only thing that suck about 90% of them are the hardware they use.
Stoeger handled my brand new 12guage M3000 extraction issues with ease, it now runs like the 1/2 priced Benelli that I wanted it to be!
Looks like a nice one. You've peaked my interest. 😉
Just a thought on the Glock triggers -- A while back I looked into Glock to see if they had ever had any kind of mishaps like the supposed P320 issues, and I couldn't find anything. I did, however, find a LOT of reports of pedestrians AND police officers accidentally shooting one another due to the trigger, which led to a lot of lawsuits.
My theory is that perhaps Glock got so 'scurred' of being sued further that they decided to make the crappiest trigger possible to ensure that they cover their bootums.
😂 That’s an interesting theory! The transition from double action guns to striker guns definitely caused a lot of negligent “booger hook on the bang switch” incidents. But the G43x/G48 triggers are particularly awful.
@@NightwoodGuns Gotta admit, I haven't compared my 19 with my 43X, so I'll have to do that in the future and see just how much worse the 43x is.
@@whatwouldlewdo Let me know what you think after you compare 👍
Is this gun still holding up for you? Thinking of getting an str9mc, looking at this and the S&W SD9. Any chance you have experience with the SD9?
No experience with the SD9, but this has held up great for me 👍
@@NightwoodGuns I went back to the store today and walked out with an STR-9MC! I picked it up again and looked at it and just loved the way she felt in my hand. Super excited to have this gun! Your video really opened my eyes to the gun itself so I thank you again! Also came with an extra mag in the box which is always nice!
@@theowlsofouterheaven Very nice! Glad to hear it! 👍
found one for 239
Great deal! 👍
Glad i found your channel a while back. I like the content. Keep up the great work.
I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the channel! Thanks for the support 😎👍
compelling review. Watched our MC9 review last night, I was all set to buy one.... now I'm concerned. I'm new to your reviews, do you show shooting results? 5/7 yard accuracy for a defensive pistol? Are the magazines proprietary or do they cross over with anything else? I'll check out your full size Stoeger review.
I have two MC 9’s and l carry them. I’ve not had an out of battery issue at all. I think they’re fantastic and l’ve tried every micro compact. the mete works for me. Range USA has them available to rent, if they’re by you. Rent one. Another gun with exceptional value and trust my life with it.
Accuracy and shooting results are more-so a reflection of the shooter instead of the gun itself. All of these pistols are accurate out to any practical distance. As far as I know the mags are proprietary. I show shooting results in videos that focus on drills and shooting performance. 👍
The full size str fits in glock holsters.is it not the same with mc?
It fits in some Glock holsters, not all. I didn’t have any luck with my holsters at least.
Awesome video, Brett! If I didn’t already have a micro compact this would be a winner.
It’s pretty darn good! Which micro are you running, btw?
I bought a STR-9MC yesterday. Unlike the description on their website, mine came with a 10 round magazine with a pinky extender base plate. Is this removable, leaving a flush mount base plate or do I have to somehow get a flush mount base plate?
Hey boss , was interested in purchasing the GX4 until I stumbled across this. Which one would you recommend?
It’s a toss-up. Whichever one you like better in-hand 👍
@@NightwoodGuns thx mate. I’ll try the feel for both and make a decision. Granted I find decent pricing. I’m assuming you can’t go wrong with either correct ? I had a G3C but got taken as evidence from the police unfortunately 😔
@@MastermindRell Man, that sucks… Keep in mind, both are budget guns so both can have problems. That being said, they are about equal. So yeah, either way you’ll be getting the same quality 👍
I've been buying up all the Walther PPQ that hit my local classifieds. Been getting them at $300.
Not that I'd buy the Stoeger (not even sure if I'd take the time to email for T&E) but have you shot the PPQ?
Thoughts comparing the two?
The PPQ is a great gun! As far as full size guns go I’d take one over a Stoeger any day 👍 I’ve never emailed a company for T&E, do they send stuff to pretty much anyone?
@@NightwoodGuns It depends. Some companies are weird and you have to go back and forth for a week for a $600 gun... some will straight up send you $14,000 worth of guns (That was two guns. From the owner's personal collection) with a 20 min convo.
And one in particular, I'm going to call out by name because they aren't what they used to be 5 years ago... Staccato fkd me over promising me a gun for a few months and when the time came, gave me a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If you like, I can send you a list of non-shilly companies that will send you guns but not expect certain revu00s.
@@NightwoodGuns With SHOT coming up... T&E is a mess. You won't get anything until Feb now. Everyone has guns under actual lock and key (anyone smart) so they don't disappear at some YTbrs house for the multi-billion dollar industry event.
HOWEVER, you don't WAIT until Feb to ask... you start asking in Nov through Jan to get on 'lists' for samples.
It helps if you keep your ear to the ground to know what is launching and ask early, because places like DemoRanch, and Honest Outlaw of course are going to get first position on the sample list.
@@m4rvinmartian Interesting. Not surprised about Staccato, tbh 🤣 Yeah, shoot me an email or a DM on Insta when you get some time, I appreciate that 👍 I just want to stay away from shill-city 😅
Could you see if the stoeger slide fits onto a glock 43x or 43 frame? And if a glock slide can fit onto the stoeger frame?
The stoeger compact can fit onto glock 19s, and I think the sc can fir the glock 26, and full size can fit the glock 17
This caught my attention somehow and has been on my radar for a couple months. On paper I like everything about it. I think you brought home all the considerations perfectly.
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Well...I watched it to the end, liked and commented. I don't live in AZ. It's cold out. I will carry a full size DW 1911 and not think about Micro 9s until April or May. Always enjoy your vids!
Sonny, a $300 gun? Your mom and I always told you that if you needed money just call your Uncle Claude….
This is the way.
I typically carry full-size too. But these micro carry guns are popular 😂🤷♂️
@@surfingonmars8979 😂👍
@@m4rvinmartian Agreed 👍
I'd like to see this against the Taurus GX4.....thats my favorite budget micro 9 so far. Thats my baby.
I have shot it, but I haven’t reviewed it on the channel yet. They are cheap enough that I’ll probably pick one up soon for a proper head-to-head 👍
The magazines are not inexpensive. They only use Stoeger mags. Thus far, I’ve not found any aftermarket magazines on the market.
Great vid, thanks!
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I like this pistol and had my eye on it since it came out, $350 with $50 rebate is a great deal. Thanks for putting this up
Absolutely 😎👍
Seems like a great one and done micro aside from holster supply but I still lean Glock or Sig even tho likewise not a micro fan. There are more stories of Glock/S&W/Beretta/Sig even H&K QC issues simply because more people use em and will post about it even if it’s small percentage of actual problems.
I totally understand that 😎👍
That's a bad breath gun.Don't waste your money on the hundred dolls for the upgrade.
I put a request in at Vedder and Hawg holsters.
This gun is 🔥 has so much going for it!
🔥Muddy River Tactical makes great holsters and already has one for the Stoeger STR9 I put a request to them as well. They will likely have it before anyone else. So definitely request STR9 MC from Muddy River Tactical
You good 😂 thanks so for the review buddy
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Yes!!! My $435 Beretta APX-A1 Compact should be embarrassed!!! Not much accessories or holster availability even after 4 years!!
Yikes 😬😂
@@NightwoodGuns im thinkin of Kimber Micro9, Taurus GX4, or Ruger Max9. At least they can be concealed but Beretta is a brick to carry around!
@@VolksStokes I usually recommend a P365 if you can find one on sale 👍
@@NightwoodGunsok gotcha! I'll look for it! TY!
@@VolksStokes 😎👍
have put over 2k rounds thru mine..got the optic ready one..not one misfire...ya its a snappy lil one but it is accurate as hell ..the mags have gotten a little easier to load with the mageula but still cant put all 13 in.
I have this exact model love it almost bought a fn reflex definitely happier with the str since it’s also optics ready
Slide cuts look rather crappie. Come on man, xd slide cuts are really lazy.
I keep a couple Sticky holsters around as a backup and most micro/compact 9's fit perfectly in them. I used to carry my Hi-Point C9 in one and had no trouble. I'm pretty sure the Stoeger would also fit. I know my Taurus GX4 fits (currently using Taurus' proprietary GX4 holster).
That’s one way to go about it in a pinch, I just strongly prefer Kydex or leather holsters that can actually attach to a belt.
@@NightwoodGuns I agree 100%
@@paulis7319 😎👍
Can’t decide between this one and the Taurus GX4 carry. They’re both in the low 3’s
Could you review the hellcat pro bro? You're the only reviewer on here I trust 100% and would love your thoughts on the gun
If I run across one I’ll be sure to review it 😎👍
Great review! Subbed and stayed til the end. I have no intention of getting this gun, as I have a P365 and LCP Max for my daily carry, and I'm happy with them. The Max has every upgrade available from Mcarbo, and it really makes a difference. Both have Hogue grip sleeves as well. I will be getting the STR-9F in a couple of days.
Very nice! Mcarbo is always a great way to upgrade a pistol like the Max 👍 Enjoy the STR-9F! It’s a good one! And welcome to the channel! 👋
Man, I got this gun recently. Love everything about it, but it shoots 6" high and a 4-5 week repair time after stoeger gets it back. Huge disappointment and makes me regret my purchase.
Apparently they had a bad batch of sights go out after my review. A few people have commented on it but they’ve all gotten it fixed by now. Thanks for sharing your experience, it’s a valuable data point 👍
Hello Nightwood Guns. This is the first of your videos I've seen, thanks for a great review!...New sub here. I like what I see and hear about the STR-9MC, except for the lack of holster availability and after-market support, and we don't yet know about it's reliability. At this point in time, I would rather go with the Taurus GX4-XL (non-t.o.r.o.) In my opinion they have a damn good concealed carry defense trigger, I can shoot them accurately with my x-large hands with x-long fingers, after-market support is good, and so is reliability. I don't concern myself with the drop safety recall anymore, as that issue has been dealt with. And almost all pistol manufacturers have had problems with their new models.
I’ve heard great things about the GX4 for the price 👍 Welcome to the channel!
It's 300$ because it probably doesn't come with the same level of customer service and lifetime warranties. There are a lot of cheap copycat international guns, but it depends on what you need. If you plan on practicing and putting wear and tear on the weapon, it's a no-go.
It’s not comparable to a CR920 until its optic system works just as well!
Those are 100% fair points 👍 It’s nice that there’s an option like this so everyone can concealed carry a decent firearm regardless of budget.
Awesome Review. Highly under rated handguns! They have a $50 rebate until mid January
They are impressive pistols! I’m glad the rebate is still going 😎👍
Man bro I have the sc and love it so much I'm gonna get this one
Very nice! 😎👍
I have the str9c desert tan and black good looking and great shooting gun.
I am with you I have the p365 and I am not a fan of micro compacts. The sight radius and snappiness. I have issues with my hands and holding smaller guns and shooting fifty rounds and my hands will start locking up and going numb. (Carpal tunnel issues genetics I guess). So holding full size guns it doesn’t bother me as much until about 300 rds. But I have been looking for one of these just to hide somewhere for a backup. Thanks for the video.
I didn’t know you wrote books. I myself am an artist and thought about many times creating books for kids. Keep it up boss man.
Walther PPQ M2 in 9mm. Look on your local classifieds, and then offer them $300. Keep going til you get one.
Got one in my SoB right now. Very comfortable gun.
@@m4rvinmartian I have the pdp f and the q5. I looked it up and it looks like a sweet gun. I may have to check it out.
investigate a K-frame .357
@@bobjones-bt9bh revolvers are sweet but not my thing for carry.
This is a great cheap micro gun to stash, for sure! 😎👍 What kind of art do you do? You should definitely do those kids books, if you don’t you’ll probably always regret it. Share your art with the world!
I'm sure my LGS probably won't have any anytime soon, but I'll be keeping my eyes peeled.
I'm curious, have you ever gotten your hands on the Kimber R7? I was thoroughly impressed with it for the feature set. They have them now for 520 online as a tacpac/gearup package with a holster and 5 mags and am thinking of picking up another one after i traded mine off last year.
Yeah, the Kimber R7 isn’t bad. It just also isn’t anything special in my opinion. I also haven’t seen any at a high round count.
we keep hearing this for the price saying, someone who had this pistol tell us, if the name said glock, hk, walther, fn any of the higher end brands would you still rave about it or is this just another budget firearm that you'd rather put a couple extra dollar with and get something more expensive
I’d rather put up some more money for something higher quality 👍
The stoeger str-9mc looks like a good pistol. I just brought a stoeger str-9c pistol and i like it better. needs more magazines..
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Thanks for the great review, now I am $270 (after rebate) short in my bank! Can't wait to compare it head to head with my G43
Very nice! Welcome to the club! 🙌
So if the STR 9 was the shower gun, is the STR-9MC the skinny dipping gun?
A nice “zap carry” option for a night at the lake 😎👍
Excitement over a $300 micro pistol?
Who are you and what have you done to Brett?
I’m telling you, nothing excites me like good grip texture from the factory… 😂
I have one of these, and absolutely love it. The mags do take some time, to break in. As far as holsters, I have a Hellcat holster, from Alien Gear. Since it is virtually a Hellcat... but shoots better... I feel confident with it as a edc, in that holster.
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Nerd out, brother!!! I agree with everything you said. Another review I watched said that the optic cover was fastened down with flat head style screws. Lol. I'm not sure if there's a 1st and 2nd generation...
Glad you enjoyed! Yeah, I think that was a pre-release model with the flat head screws.
Looks good for the dollsrs...... I watched twice for ya!
Much appreciated 😎👍