Is a BMW 7 Series Still a Worthy Luxury Sedan 30 Years Later? - E32: The 2nd 7er

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  • @ZenQLA
    @ZenQLA Рік тому +7

    Please please keep these videos coming on these BMWs…I have a 1994 740il working on getting a new motor or rebuilding the engine. Absolutely love this car!!

  • @MikeBMW
    @MikeBMW Рік тому +11

    Nice, Josh! I've owned 3 1990 BMWs. A 1990 525i, a 1990 750iL and, currently, a 1990 535i.
    I really loved the 750iL when I had it but it became a nightmare with all of the old tech wearing out so I had to let it go.
    However, when I had it running like new, it was the best cruiser I've ever owned. Sewing machine-like smooth engine and decent sportiness with many unheard of luxuries for the time.
    The 535i is a breath of fresh air, comparatively, maintenance-wise and is a much more sporty driver.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +1

      Love to hear that! Thats the double edged sword of these 7 series, when they are in good shape they are fantastic. But once those cutting edge 1990s electronics start to go, its an expensive nightmare

    • @MikeBMW
      @MikeBMW Рік тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 Thanks, not to mention the hydraulics in an e32.
      When those start going, hoses, brake bombs, Pentosin loss, well, it gets a domino going.
      I hope you can keep this going!

  • @Anirossa
    @Anirossa Рік тому +7

    Dailied a E32 the last half of 2022.
    It got the double-glazed windows that made it an extremely silent and calm car to be inside, the cloth interior and headliner still was like new and it was newly repainted at a garage and looked good, was also no noises from the interior anywhere, it handled well and wasn't much wrong with it, if anything besides some bushings and electrical issues. However, I kinda hated owning it.
    The amount of modules, the wiring and the complexity made me pretty paranoid about things going wrong, especially after going over the electronical trouble shooting manual for E32s
    Sold it on easily, partly wish I'd kept the M30 and drivetrain as it ran like a champ, so could put it in one of my M20 E34s that has a worn cam. But it was too good overall to be a partscar, and didn't have the time anyway.
    My overall favorite car to own and use overall still the M20 E34s, lighter like a E30, with interiors that don't rattle apart (especially early E34s with more metal and less plastic and better quality besides worse door trim), they small cars by today's standards and slow enough to be fun on backroads without getting into trouble.
    Agree with most you say here, I would also like to add that the E32 I had came with recites of around 12.000 euros for the last 10 years, supporting your point of them bringing people to bankruptcy.
    So they are not that reliable in 2023', and parts are expensive, Haven't had an electrical issue with my E34 M20 in the 2 years I dailied it, so different league to the E32. Something that I guess makes total sense as entropy affects the E32 overtime and all it's gimmickeris.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +3

      Man I couldn’t agree with you more! Great car, super solid, but likewise the electrical issues and all the goofy modules ruined this car for me. I fought electrical issue after electrical issue, and still had gremlins. Not worth the ownership cost. An E34 does nearly everything this car does but better. Id never care to own an E32 again to be honest. This car did in fact sell last week.

    • @Anirossa
      @Anirossa Рік тому +1

      @M3nameisjosh Yeah, congrats on having moved it on. Besides production numbers, there are good reasons the E34 is so much more popular than the E32.
      If I had to, I'd be open to strip down and give a base model E34 a new wiring harness to make it all function correctly as well as sod together a couple modules to make lights and instrument work properly too, somewhere down the line if its all too burned out.
      But I wouldn't even consider doing the same for an E32. There are way too many gimmicks that ruin the car if it isn't working, and the thick python of a harness running through the car is something I (together with many others I'd assume) don't enjoy messing with.

    • @Lamerguezerie
      @Lamerguezerie Рік тому +1

      @@Anirossa I have personally never owned an E32. But they share most of their electronics and components. How can one be much less reliable than the other? My E34 being a high-end 535 has a lot of wiring. A true nightmare.
      By the way, what do you mean with "especially early E34s with more metal and less plastic and better quality besides worse door trim"? I had never heard of that

    • @Anirossa
      @Anirossa Рік тому

      @La merguezerie worse door panels* (none native language, sorry)
      Yeah, many of the componants are the same in the E32 and E34, though a few things are slightly different, and when they are, they often end up being twice the price just because they are for a 7 series as well as few being made making parts more rare to begin with when looking for used.
      What I mean with the espiecally early E34s is that until around 90-91, I think it was. The cloth seats lost the vinyl trim on the side that looked nice. If they had manual windows they replaced solid metal winders with a own rubber handle that felt great with a single cheaper piece made out of plastic, the surround to the door handels went from metal to thin plastic that tend to fade over time and not sit as tight and besides that seen that the well into the 90s E34s tend to rust more for whatever reason I haven't figured out yet.
      Headliners have also tended to sag more on the later model E34s I've owned. The problem with the door locks going up and down when trying to lock the door also a problem that I find very annoying and that came on the later updated version of the system (also early 90s).
      The one positive I have on later E34s is that the door panels don't shrink as bad as it did on the early E34s, though the later panels with trims are more likely to start ratting than the early models thanks to there being more parts. Had 88 to 96 E34s, so there are a few updates they did to cheap out in production, especially after the point East and West Germany was united. I have 88' E34s with wiring like an E30 and had an E34 wagon from 96 with wiring like a low spec E32. So all depends, of course.

    • @Lamerguezerie
      @Lamerguezerie Рік тому

      @@Anirossa thank you very much for all these details. I was not aware of some of them, except rust and door panels.
      It is indeed a sad thing. Although honestly many manufacturers do the same - not that it is a reason.
      Then I am glad to have a 1990 5er. Almost one of the best years.

  • @timeknight1990
    @timeknight1990 10 місяців тому +1

    Greetings from Russia from 740il 93 years old)
    Nice video, I think you're right about all those cars. Mine is not in the best condition, it was in an accident a couple of years ago and is currently being painted.
    Yes, the maintenance of these cars is expensive, some parts cannot be found after 30 years, but if you love your car, then this will not be a problem)
    Good luck with your 735il!

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  10 місяців тому +1

      Greetings!!! Thank you for the words!

  • @ClassicBMWFanInQuebec
    @ClassicBMWFanInQuebec Рік тому +2

    Nice video. I agree that an E32 is a better buy than a 2010+ 7 series, especially for a DIY owner.
    I'm a white collar worker but I always wanted to work on cars, so I bought a 735iL to learn on it. It's a great platform to work on, at least for non-electronic bits. Anyone with common sense and a Bentley manual could work on it. The 750's are more challenging but you still won't need a laptop to service it. They're great cars.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому

      Completely agree! They are perfect cars to learn to work on!

    • @jederzeit9449
      @jederzeit9449 Рік тому +1

      @Classic BMW Fan In Quebec: When will you release new content on your chanel...can't wait for it 😊

    • @ClassicBMWFanInQuebec
      @ClassicBMWFanInQuebec Рік тому

      @@jederzeit9449 Ahh! I wish I had time! Life is super busy now. But I will try to make one soon. The car is out of storage at least.

  • @A.lezzdee
    @A.lezzdee Рік тому +2

    Appreciate the video Josh, very good insight was shared.

  • @christopherduncan4033
    @christopherduncan4033 4 місяці тому

    Josh! I just stumbled upon your video. Good job bro. I just got my 2001 E38 back from an engine overhaul+paint. I enjoyed hearing your insight and review on the Flagship.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for stopping in!!! Now enjoy your E38!!!

  • @Tonygee160
    @Tonygee160 Рік тому +1

    Josh I was asking about the 735i and you explained it in this video like the way you was talking about it gave me more confidence about my BMW that's not a bad car and like I said it only has 104 miles on it just really want to put some time in it thanks 😊😊😊

  • @tadlong922
    @tadlong922 Рік тому +1

    Loved the format on this video. I like the mix of cinematics on this but also the brutal honesty when you were workin on the head gasket for the e34

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +1

      I try to put out a little bit of both!! Gotta show the work of keeping them on the road so I can film these videos too!

  • @mr.zholsta8718
    @mr.zholsta8718 Рік тому +3

    This video is just something like somone like me who always liked and wanted to have an E32 is enjoying. :) My 40th birthday will be in 2 weeks and I believe my wife want to make my long time dream come true, to finally buy a E32. :)
    Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next one.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +3

      Thats awesome man!!! Happy early birthday and I hope you get the E32 you’ve always wanted!

    • @mr.zholsta8718
      @mr.zholsta8718 Рік тому

      @@m3nameisjosh464 Thank You! :) If I really getting one I will let you know. :)

  • @blue_lancer_es
    @blue_lancer_es Рік тому +2

    When you mentioned the weight i had to look up my cars curb weights. My e34 touring is heavier than my montero sport from 1999. I was 😲

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +2

      E34 tourings are surprisingly light cars for how they appear! Haha

  • @jondoe3623
    @jondoe3623 Рік тому +5

    I agree I've 1990s bmw they are a lot better than new car's I own a 1994 jaguar xj6 at the moment and it drives so much better than a modern car with all the luxury

  • @jpadicecoffee9812
    @jpadicecoffee9812 Рік тому

    I like how you got this back to running condition, even with the interior ceiling exposed.

  • @habsom1406
    @habsom1406 Рік тому +2

    Some interesting observations Josh, "sh#tbox" indeed, ha ha 😂😄🤣. That e32 seems virtually silent on the inside despite the crusty exhaust. Yeah, shame about the drone footage man, would have been awesome to see this old girl hunker down and blow out a few cobwebs from the outside! Always thought of the e32 as just a bigger e34 as it shares so many components like switches, seats, mirrors etc. but the e34 has a much sweeter chassis and feels like it wraps around you more. Not as light as an E30 but more nimble than an e32, the e34 is composed but can still hustle along nicely. Yes, would like to see some drive by videos in your other cars with drone footage or failing that, sidewalk footage on a tripod. Looks chilly in your neighborhood bro!!!😎

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +1

      I couldn’t agree more! The E32 is just a bigger, clumsier, less attractive E34 in my mind. The E34 does what the E32 does but better, as well as what the e30 does, but heavier and a little less nimble. All are awesome cars in their own respects, but E34 is the winner for me. Im going to work at mastering the drone! And i filmed this video in a brisk 25 degree day:(

  • @tlake64
    @tlake64 Місяць тому

    Hi Josh, the original e23 7 series of 1977-86 had electric rear seats, so did the contemporary Mercedes W116 S class. However, both cars didn't get powered front seats until 1981/82. The Germans reasoned you had manual adjustments for front seats, but this wasn't possible for rear seats, so, the rear seats got electric adjustment first. By the early '80s the popularity of powered front seats in America, caused BMW and Mercedes to follow suit, on the revised e23 7 series and W126 S class Mercedes.

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Місяць тому +1

      @@tlake64 thank you for sharing this great information!!

    • @madhanaekanayake2187
      @madhanaekanayake2187 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@m3nameisjosh464True, the E23 had electric rear seats as an option in 1977. It also had many innovations such as ABS and digital motor electronics. But the E32 was an bigger offensive by BMW to create the best car in the world!

  • @miloszivanov
    @miloszivanov Рік тому

    loved the video buddy, keep up what you do!

  • @yellowjoe.2000
    @yellowjoe.2000 Рік тому +1

    awesome video. Love the E32 735il or 740il.

  • @bmwguyc.j7197
    @bmwguyc.j7197 Рік тому +1

    Yea make more vids like this also how do you feel about e39s and e38s? Would ever get one?

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man! And only e39 id care to own is an M5, as for E38 id love a nice example.

  • @seasidegalaxystreet
    @seasidegalaxystreet Рік тому

    This was majorly ahead for 1991. Believe me. If I think of other cars around they didn’t have any of these features you mention.

  • @shaunmathew1640
    @shaunmathew1640 Рік тому

    Ive recently found pics of an AC Shnitzer e32 and i want one so bad

  • @andreyz5series
    @andreyz5series Рік тому +2

    I want to get a e34 as a first car for a project to learn how to work on them, is it a good idea?

    • @blue_lancer_es
      @blue_lancer_es Рік тому

      From my experience.
      I have always been into Mitsubishi cars and work on them my self. I got my e34t in augusts. Still not finished but I have fixed of ton of things. Just missing front suspension cooling system(i heard this is the life of them) and exhaust since I took out the wonky turbo set up it had.
      Having been working on cars for 20 plis years helps but this is totally different than what I'm used to. But a car is a car but always research 1 2 or 3 times before I do anything to it. So if you have some mechanical knowledge just go for it. Its fun and stressful. Never a dull moment.

    • @mohis5664
      @mohis5664 Рік тому +1

      Yes why not, E34 is not a bad choice as a first car but if you want comfortability etc. i would go for E39

    • @potathooo
      @potathooo Рік тому +2

      If you are broke you will be spending a large portion of your income on parts, but its doable as long as you never ever take it to a mechanic (labor costs will kill you)

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +4

      Agree with what these guys are saying! Great first car, but take the time to learn cars and research E34s well( my page ;)). Labor costs are what make these cars hard to own. So diy and its a breeze and not expensive.

    • @andreyz5series
      @andreyz5series Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the help

  • @Chattsteezy
    @Chattsteezy Рік тому +1

    Only 7 series BMW ever made worth buying IMO. E32's look so good to me when done properly.

  • @GalvanizedGreatness
    @GalvanizedGreatness Рік тому

    I still view the e32/e38 to be relevant as a luxury flagship they just hit different

  • @karinkatt7893
    @karinkatt7893 Рік тому

    just asking.....at 80mph....the rpm is at 4000rpm yes?...m30b30 automatic...coz kinda noisy...

  • @tavianreyes6466
    @tavianreyes6466 Рік тому +1

    You found one with rear electric seats??? That’s pretty rare

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +1

      It just fell in my lap😏. Didn’t know how rare they are with that option

  • @Tonygee160
    @Tonygee160 Рік тому +1

    Josh that's the same body style BMW I have I was telling you about. So what you think about that 735i is it really a good car to keep around huh?

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому

      They are great cars, if you enjoy it keep it around!

  • @alpinevicemotorsports1805
    @alpinevicemotorsports1805 Рік тому +2

    I almost don't want to watch this because I'm afraid of what you'll say lol, I have spent so much time and money fixing an e32 that I've only driven a total of maybe 5 miles

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +1

      Hahahahaha don’t let me discourage you😭

    • @Lamerguezerie
      @Lamerguezerie Рік тому

      same with my 5 series. Soon back on the road for real though

  • @Dale-TND
    @Dale-TND Рік тому

    I'd love one but people take such bad care of them in my area that good examples just don't exist. Eyeing an e39!

  • @ズーム
    @ズーム Рік тому

    I’m convinced to buy a bmw now after watching ur videos 😂

  • @jush471
    @jush471 Рік тому +1

    w vid daddy josh

  • @alukovinyl2023
    @alukovinyl2023 Рік тому

    Nice work

  • @clinehearty4917
    @clinehearty4917 Рік тому +1

    Of all the bmw I’ve had my e32 had the best A/C by far

  • @hashemtalal8298
    @hashemtalal8298 Рік тому

    How best this or e34 ?

  • @faraimulenga409
    @faraimulenga409 Рік тому +1

    Sadly the LS400 outshined all German luxury cars at the time......I owned a 735i m30b35 e32 with blue leather interior.....felt mafia in that tank lol

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому +2

      I know LS400s are a very well regarded car, id like to experience one to compare to this

    • @Lamerguezerie
      @Lamerguezerie Рік тому

      If you mean the LS400 was better than a 1979-launched S-Class, why not.

  • @amariodom4858
    @amariodom4858 Рік тому

    now if someone slapped a turbo & 5 speed on one of these would be sweet

  • @davidkappus9378
    @davidkappus9378 Рік тому

    I recently discovered your Videos and want to say thanks and that you are doing a Terrific job!
    Having been a BMW enthusiast for 20 years you have taught me quite a bit.
    I have 3 Great cars that are a Blast to Drive.
    80 633 Euro, 4sp
    89 325i convertible
    90 735il
    My Son's is a 99 323i, 5sp. E46.
    Vintage at saratoga!

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому

      I really appreciate that David! Happy to teach things to even the seasoned veterans!

  • @Nobody-dh3bm
    @Nobody-dh3bm Рік тому +1

    It's worthy if it has the 5 speed haha

  • @brienmacgearailt7801
    @brienmacgearailt7801 Рік тому

    Never sell that.

  • @mat_bb
    @mat_bb Рік тому

    12:14 E63 is not that bad, its the 6 series based on E60. E65 is the worst

    • @m3nameisjosh464
      @m3nameisjosh464  Рік тому

      E63 along with e65 are both nightmare cars that cost substantial amounts of money to keep on road.

  • @mohanadhatem
    @mohanadhatem Рік тому

    Flagshit*
    Thank God she’s gone 😂

  • @Aigun-s5x
    @Aigun-s5x 7 місяців тому

    Ты можешь помолчать , направить камеру на дорогу и дать послушать BMW !