Back around 2010 I was so hyped for more female lead action films, especially a Black Widow movie.. Fast forward 14 years and I actively avoid any action films promoting a female lead. I'm exhausted of the girl boss trope and I don't trust any of them all thanks to how badly they were handled by the ideologues.
I am a lover of women and also them being sexy. I too love movies like Ghost in the Shell and Black Widow just to simply enjoy watching Scarlett Johansson. I see your point about them pushing it with Ghostbusters 2016, Oceans 14 the woman one, and just movie after movie featuring these strong women leads. But still here in 2024 we get Furiosa with ATJ and Damsel with Millie Bobbie Brown and I sat there fully immersed with both movies. They just gotta do it right and Im all in with women leads. Give me movies like Lucy and Anna and Morgan and Prey anytime. My 2 cents.
Decades ago Alien and Terminator had shown that its not only possible, but can be actually great and that there is a huge audience there for it. But those obnoxious girlbosses that can't stand on their own but always have to put down guys got really old, really fast. These days I actively avoid all movies that only have a hint of that because it just ruins everything...
I still imagine a Black Widow movie that showed Bucharest being a Xenophon like (ie Warriors) story where Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Mockingbird among others fight their way out of the city while being pursued by an awesome Red Guardian (not that crap character that ended up after the spectacular opening scene with him in the actual Black Widow movie). That movie occurring right before Endgame. It would further emphasize the sacrifice of Black Widow in Endgame which should have been done differently with Hawkeye actually pushing Black Widow over the edge after the two concluding he needs to live because of his family - the whole fight to commit suicide was ridiculous and took away from the dramatic moment). Such a missed opportunity to give us a female Taskmasters head on a male stuntman's body.
Personal story. Went to see Fury Road because I was excited to see a new Mad Max movie. I was disappointed, which is why I didn't go to see Furiosa, having learned my lesson from Fury Road. Perhaps Hollywood should start taking exit interviews so they don't get the false impression that something is successful because lots of people went to see it, based on false promises and false premises.
Guys, i love you, but don't go all monocausal on why movies fail: it's not always 'waaamaaan' or sloppy storytelling, sometimes a good film can fail because it does not have mass appeal. successful movies have a distinct plot that is easy to follow and summarize and offers exciting set pieces, that are well-made - it is, in other words, easy to market through word-of-mouth. FURIOSA did not have that, it's a film for film buffs first and not enough of an audience pleaser. It's plot meanders, in too episodic 'chapters', it has less action than the predecessor and feels overall more disjointed. The overall quality of all that is still high, but it's just very difficult to tell other people what's so great about it. If all that wasn't the case, the lack of Max would never have bothered any of the audience, I'm 100% sure.
I loved Furiosa, but I think it would’ve been a better choice to make it a series, since certain characters and plot threads definitely needed more time to breathe. This film is clearly setting up “the Wasteland” which is a prequel about Max, that was partially adapted into the 2015 video game, which with a few tweaks has potential to be a quintessential Mad Max story. It would’ve been crazy to have that release alongside a mainline Max film, or just make it one big series, I feel like people would totally be more inclined to check it out that way, going for a Game of Thrones approach would’ve been my choice.
That too. The Jeffersons was a spin-off from All in the Family. A Man Called Hawk was a spin-off of Spencer: for Hire. They each did well, and for the people who never knew they were spin-offs it didn't matter. Mad Max fans would have recognized the name Furiosa and knew it was set in that universe. Everyone else would have enjoyed it or not based off of its merits.
@@vinson1445right. Had they dropped the “mad max” title, it might have done better. Seeing it as a bait and switch made me not want to see it. Especially since Fury Road was already a bait and switch. Muzzling the hero for most of the movie. Even the poster has him relegated to background noise.
Well it worked. Idk why so many people get upset this movie did well. It knew its audience, it knew its product, and it adequately sold it to them. I see so many guys raging that women went saw a Barbie movie smh. Shouldn’t we be glad a movie made for women was seen by women because then maybe Hollywood will take the hint that women want these kinds of films instead of trying to force females into action and superheroes genres
@@Lawrence_Talbot As long as the movie doesn't make the male co-stars weak to build up your female lead then I have no problem with it. Doing that doesn't make your female lead look good, it makes them look terrible. Barbie is probably the one brand that hadn't been ruined by that yet. And they didn't push it in any of the promotional material until people saw it and found out. Plus it was a cool "CHALLENGE" to see Oppenheimer and Barbie. Which helped Nolan's film. Like I said, slick marketing and being quiet about the content made it successful.
@@Lawrence_Talbot I'm a woman who's a little annoyed the film did so well, just because of the pandering, misandry, and intellectual dishonesty. But I'm much more annoyed at the target audience who bought into its BS.
@@Lawrence_Talbot People are upset it did so well because it reflects 2024 American society in that the women want nothing more than to be vapid self-indulgent consumers that have "men" as accessories and "men" want nothing more than to wear tight bright shorts and look good for all the other "men". It is a moronic breakdown of modern society. Those who "love it" are fully on board for the descent. The minds behind this movie are perverts and degenerates who see society as a game of payback for all the people who hurt them when they were young, the message of the individual being the absolutely most important person in existence, at the cost of any type of functioning society. Maybe you haven't noticed yet, but take a look outside your window...America is burning to the ground, films like this are fuel on the flames.
I've discussed with others why Furiosa didn't work. To me, as many others have also agreed with me on this, Furiosa wasn't that interesting of a character to warrant a prequel story with her. She was okay as a one-off character for Fury Road, much like many of the other one-off characters that have turned up in past Mad Max films. Furiosa was only as interesting as the one-off character she was in Fury Road. No one wanted a prequel about that character (Hell, there was a set of prequel stories involving the characters from this film, including one about Max, but no one bought them). Furiosa didn't need a prequel any more than any other one-off character that has been seen in the films. That's why I wasn't interested in seeing it, regardless how well reviewed it is.
Yeah, it’s not rocket science. Most people like Mad Max movies because they like the character of Max. People go to a Batman movie to see Batman, not some other character from your last Batman movie. Same goes with any franchise. You could make the most badass spy movie ever, set in the Bond universe, have it star the last Bond girl and I am NOT interested. The logic behind this film is just mind boggling. I really feel like once Mel got in trouble, Miller just wanted to ditch the character entirely as an FU to him.
It's not hard to see why _Furiosa_ failed. Here are the reasons: It was made almost 10 years after _Fury Road._ No one cares about the character Furiosa. She is a side character in Max's story, not the other way around. The film used the subtitle "A _Mad Max_ Saga" name because it could not have succeeded without a connection to a famous franchise. Even with the connection, it was a bomb. Audiences saw right through that one. People are sick and tired of female-led action films, especially women. They largely don't succeed at the box office, yet studios still make them for the purpose of social engineering and devotion to ideology. People wanted a sequel to _Fury Road_ with Max as the lead. Making a _Mad Max_ film without Mad Max was the worst decision George Miller could have possibly made.
I didn't see Furiosa because it's a prequel - we know she'll show up in the future in Fury Road, so there's no stakes for her. We know she'll survive everything thrown at her which takes all the tension away. I didn't care to see too deeply into her backstory, we saw just enough in Fury Road to make her compelling. I didn't want to see 40 minutes of her as a child. Another reason I didn't see it is because the actress's eyes are abnormally far apart, and I find it a little unnerving.
Yet as much as the movie was told through her eyes, there were stakes involved for those around her. The world was made darker and more violent than even in Fury Road.
My main problem with Furiosa (apart from not have a compelling reason to exist) was the terrible lookig CGI. MM has always been about that gritty, sweaty, visceral action and stunt work, and nearly every frame of this looked like full CGI or greenscreen, which just took the viewer out of it. The recap scenes of Fury Road over the credits was just a reminder of how much better that movie was.
Week 3 for wolverine. I was seeing it for a 2nd time. The theater was packed. I could barely find a time that had a seat. When you make fun movies, people show up. And this movie wasn't concerned about appealing to the masses. It was giving people what they wanted to see. And even non fans showed up.
I watched Mad Max: Fury Road, and I found it to be quite cool. After seeing that film which felt a bit more focused on Furiosa than Max...my general sentiment was "Well, I hope the next one is a film where it gets to be all about Max"...and what did Warner Bros give me? A prequel that is 100% about Furiosa. Instead of a Sequel all about Max, I got a prequel all about Furiosa. I will never watch this movie.
@@bassage13 If you like a movie, that’s cool. If someone else doesn’t like the same movie, that’s cool. Everyone has a right to like or dislike what they choose. If anyone sounds like a pre-pubescent kid gatekeeping what other people like or dislike, it’s you.
@@bassage13 There's nothing triggering about it. I'm not interested in watching it. There are plenty of movies I am not interested in seeing even if they are good. It is about being interesting to me enough to get me to watch it. I'm glad people love it, people loved Barbie too...I have no interest in watching either.
I agree with the time thing. A lot of movies now have to be almost three hours long for some reason. I liked John Wick 4 but it could have been cut way down. I get movies like Dune and LOTR being long because they're epic stories, but Furiosa could have been trimmed way down.
Mad Max itself is not an highly popular franchise. They made matters significantly worse by having a horrendously high production cost and not including Max. They got lucky with Fury Road. They tried to ride a wave that had no ass behind it.
correct. the original Max trilogy are what we now call "cult classics"... they were decently received by the normies back in the day, but certainly not blockbusters of any sort! the following grew over time and reshowings over the years. while i appreciate george miller's desire to go back to that world and bring more stories from it to the screen, the audience really was never demanding it, or even asking for such, as most people recognized that with the existing 3 films, the story of Max was largely, if not fully told. There were never any spin-off characters who warranted their own stories being told as standalones. cheers!
no, you don't really see much of him. he is a good villain, but we know nothing about his motivations other than "lost his children obviously somehow".
I would've seen Furiosa if stuck to real effects, real sets, stayed true to the tones and themes of the originals. The commercial with Harmsworth looked campy, overly-CGI, flat, and inappropriately comedic such that it reminded me of Fat Thor rather than Mad Max.
A good amount of Furiosa was practical and looked as good as Fury Road and at times even better. It was a dark movie and Hemsworth was as good as any previous villain. The trailer did it wrong. Only because of the good reviews did I take the risk and theatrically Furiosa was amazing to behold. The sound was perfect too!
The trailer actually didn’t do a good job of conveying his character, the trailers for Fury Road weren’t great either, just look up some scenes online and you’ll see.
if Furiosa is on par with Ellen Ripley, in time the film will get the recognition it will deserve IMO. The reason it flopped was multi factorial, including an economy in which people don’t have disposable income and one in which we have seen so many terrible girl boss movies.
Furiosa is clearly setting up a prequel about Max called The Wasteland, the script of which was loosely adapted into the 2015 video game, it deals with the aftermath of Furiosa’s events, and Scabrous Scrotus becomes the main antagonist. It adds so much context to Fury Road, if it ever gets made it’ll most certainly be a success. If you want to know more about the plot just play the game, or watch some videos about it, it’s semi-canonical however. And if George Miller wants to step down, it would be insane if Mel Gibson came back to direct.
The reason it failed is that Mad Max isn't popular to begin with, you then make a sequel about a secondary!!!! character in the movie and you make her look like and promote it like a girl boss, the Mary Sue character that we all hate and have enough of..... then you gonna wonder why it failed.... We don't need Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out.
I agree with this but there is an even bigger reason this failed… no hot sweaty women… sounds crude to say this but Anya Taylor joy is a niche beauty. She isn’t attractive in a way that translates to a larger audience. Even if she was a classic Hollywood beauty the character spends 60 percent of the movie as a kid so all of the time where she could have spent ingratiating her self to the viewer she is a completely different actress and a silly little girl at that. Then there is no male attractiveness either Hemsworth is a creeper who hides his abs the whole film.
@@Devypocalypse She wasn't a Mary Sue, no, but she's still a female replacement of a legacy male character. No more of that. Make your own stuff to stand on its own merits or not at all.
Shame it didn't do well. It was probably one of the better movies this summer. It's not hard to guess why it flopped, though. 1. It's "A Mad Max Saga" without Mad Max. Strike one. 2. The marketing framed it as a girlboss film. Strike two. 3. It was about a secondary character that nobody but people in the media and their shills on social media were super hyped for in the first place, and it wasn't even played by the same actor who introduced the character. Strikes three and four. Furiosa wasn't a bad character, but nothing about Fury Road demanded any answers about her backstory. The movie actually wasn't a girlboss story, and Furiosa ended up an interesting and endearing character. The story ajd worldbuilding were interesting and the action was great. It didn't deserve its fate, but that's what happens when you have bad marketing. This would have been much better served either as a Max miniseries or as a film that didn't present itself as "the future of the franchise," rather as an optional side adventure for those who want more from the world of Mad Max. Honestly, I only cared to see it because a friend wanted to. I'm glad I dod because it was way better than I expected, but I wouldn't have seen it for all of the reasons preciously listed. Hope it at least does well on physical media and VOD.
What about people who genuinely like Mad Max as a series? Don’t you think they’re the people who were largely excited for it? I was there day one, but it’s not as big here as it is overseas.
Furiosa failed because it was dull. Lets see from fury road we knew she was taken from the green place, rose through the racks to be head driver, Lost her arm and wanted to get back. All the movie did was flesh out a story that was maybe good enough for a flash back then put on top of that some janky special effects and an ending set in stone she was never going to escape and her love interest wasn't making it to the end of the movie. And all you are left with is some ok action scenes, a story that truthfully most people didn't care about and a comedy relief Humungus
Most Mad Max fans couldn't ignore the absence of Max, and I can appreciate that, but I still wish they'd given it a chance. After all, Max was exactly the lead in _Fury Road,_ he sort of shared that with the adult Furiosa, and it still delivered more of the over-the-top chases and crashes and stunts that we all love and see a Max movie for. And this Furiosa was *not* a "girl boss," so if the fans were believing that, they were mistaken, but they just didn't want to test their assumptions. Sad. But there are a whole myriad of reasons for this not succeeding, and the studio will just have to live with it and we will too, because...since _Fury Road_ and _Furiosa_ did so poorly we might not have any more Mad Max films.
Hollywood is all out of chances from the audience. They can start putting out media that the audience wants, or they can go out of business. Either way is fine with me (and millions of others).
@@Guigley Okay. I had heard different on some other YT channel. I see its est. budget was $150M and its gross worldwide was $380,437,267, so it did do better than break even, movie wise, but it wasn't a huge hit, which if probably why the studio greenlit _Furiosa,_ more's the pity. Perhaps Tom Hardy wasn't interested in a direct sequel, which would have been great.
I thought this movie would be good, but I didn't go see it because I felt like I had already seen it when I saw Fury Road. This was gonna be that, but a little bit less good. That's why. Was I wrong?
A lot of George's work is amazing, and FuryRoad is astounding, but FuryRoad(2014) was the herald that bought in this new girl-boss era. That was even before StarWars started going girl-boss in 2015. Ten years later and we've seen soooooooo many franchises go this way... especially those of us who play computer-games as well as watch movies. It's a plague. And so often these girl-boss characters are written with spite, and involve degrading the old male characters. People are sick of it. I heard George pitched 3 completely different stories/scripts for a potential next MadMax movie, and the executives who make decisions chose the only one that didn't have Max, and did have a girl-boss. It's not George's fault this failed. It's 100% the executive's fault. George's name isn't enough to make me assume that sleazy executives aren't shoving their nasty anti-male messaging into a franchise.
Reasons I think Furiosa failed. 1. No Mad Max 2. It came out when feminist, girl bosses and Mary Sues films are hated so much that people didn't want to watch it. 3. They announced Furiosa movie years ago after Fury Road but took too long to process and that killed the anticipations. 4. Fury Road while a hit with fans and critics, didn't make enough at the box office. Same thing with Furiosa.
Not only is it a side character but it’s not even Charlize Theron but a totally different actress. It makes the whole thing feel completely detached. I think people would have preferred Theron. You actually felt like she could do the action in Fury Road, unlike the waif-like child in this one who you never believe is doing these things. And god, 40 MINUTES of her as as a kid! And of course her mom is just as much a badass as Max or her. It’s like everyone is a super fighter now. Furiosa and Max aren’t special if everyone fights like a superhero.
I saw Fury Road in an empty theater on it's opening day, and in a major city. It wasn't that popular. This was even less so. These things are niche films and have never made much money.
A series would’ve been a better format imo, especially since certain characters and plot lines needed more time to breathe. I saw Furiosa opening day in IMAX, someone even brought their little kids in which was really weird- but anyway, if it was an ongoing series and people heard about it being super good- it would’ve gained more traction.
I truly do not understand, Anna Taylor looked 70lbs in that movie, it would be as if a 10 yr old scrawny boy were beating up grown ass rough men!!! Which makes this movie trash from the start!! It would be like having an Ewok playing Luke from the start, it wouldn’t matter how good the rest of the movie was , it would be all trash.
I don’t recall her overpowering anyone, stealing Scrotus’ car for example- she took advantage of his blind rage and Rictus’ lack of awareness to steal it.
@@ultraviolet540 the movie starts w her as a child “besting” grown men, grown men who have had to have some level of intelligence to survive in that world. Charlize Theron furiosa outsmarting adult men, I’ll believe it 100%, but not 7 yr old furiosa. By the way, that name doesn’t match one bit.
I still want to see Mad Max: Wastelands made! Not sure when I first became a Mad Max fan, but about 12 years ago when I was living in Australia, for my Birthday, I flew from Brisbane to Adelaide, drove literally all day to Broken Hill, met up with mate, camped out in the desert, just to go and and see all the Mad Max 2 stuff in Silverton. I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic settings in films. Enjoyed Furiosa, and hoping they make Wastelands!
I put this movie on to see how bad it was, but I ended up sitting down and watching it a few times now. It even made me like Fury Road better (I didn't like that Furiosa was the star of that movie and I just couldn't get into a non-Mel Gibson Mad Max). I agree that Anya Taylor-Joy is a better Furiosa, but I think everyone, men and women, is tired of action movies that don't star men, especially those that try and show women being superior in every way and men are evil morons. It's like all the men in Hollywood just handed their balls over to the women just to shut them up. If we had been making good movies for the past decade, not just superhero or action movies, but all kinds of movies with all kinds of budgets, then I think more people would accept this film. On a side note: I would love to see a final Mel Gibson, "old" Mad Max movie, but then again, I don't want any 2020s DIE infested mind going near it.
I think Mel Gibson should direct “The Wasteland” if George Miller wants to step down, I know he chose not to do Fury Road, and he wanted to pass the torch to another actor, and possibly because he was more focused on directing by that point. Fury Road was originally slated to star Mel Gibson, but it took so long that plans changed over the years.
Same reason the Obi Wan series failed. Using an iconic characters name in the title, and then girl boss the hell out of it. People are sick and tired of Hollywood piggy backing more worthy protagonists. At least Netflix got it right with Beverly Hills 4: Axel.
I think another game, and at least a semi-consistent comic run would be great. The prequel comics are amazing, I think Mary & Jack could benefit from stories about them, they needed more screen time, that’s why I think a longer series would’ve worked better. Still loved it though.
I loved, loved Fury Road. I wasn't able to motivate myself to get to a theater for this, chiefly because prequels are usually a downgrade-- and, to be frank, the theater experience is mostly dead. The last movie I saw in theaters was Godzilla Minus One, but before that... Dr. Strange 2, which was a waste of time and money.
Me being a huge movie fan, I stopped going to the movies years ago. All of a sudden, it’s been three weekends in a row of me going to watch a new movie. Deadpool and Wolverine, Twisters, and Trap. Am I getting back into movies? Looks promising. I hope they don’t go back to woke broke material. There is indeed a ray of light.
It was a highly unnecessary prequel. Fury Road gave us just enough information about Furiosa to keep her interesting and mysterious. I liked not knowing everything about her, like how she lost her arm. The prequel just didn't need to happen.
Furiosa had a lot of things going against it: Mad Max isn't a super popular property to begin with, this movie was a prequel about a side character, it came out in a time where female protagonists are overdone and done poorly, and it came out way too late after Fury Road. If it came out a year or two after Fury Road it would have likely done better or at least wouldn't be fighting such an uphill battle. But I believe its lateness can be chalked up to a lawsuit between Miller and the studio, right? I knew that the director wanted to do more with Furiosa after Fury Road but something got in the way, and whatever it was ultimately sabotaged this movie, intentionally or not. It did not fail on its merits, it failed because of the circumstances around it.
Not gonna lie. Even without Mad Max, seeing the world expanded was pretty good. Immortan Joe, the Citadel, the other baddies... It felt good. Sure it was Furiosa's film... but if Max was here it would be even more better!
This film is clearly setting up The Wasteland, a prequel about Max that was loosely adapted into the 2015 video game. It will heavily involve the aftermath of the Wasteland Wars, seeing Scabrous Scrotus take over Gastown- and establishing a blood feud with Max, it’s a long story but its quintessential Mad Max, there’s a Thunderdome, the Interceptor, etc. If that ever gets made into live action it’ll most certainly be a success.
Oh boy. Diversity and Comics will make about 15 community posts crying about the title, maybe a 40 minute video as well lol. The guy really lost his mind after Furiosa's failure.
One thing I've noticed about 2024 is that it really seems like studios are trying to release movies that the audience wants to see. Weird thing to say in any other era, but in 2024 it makes perfect sense.
I give you female Silver Surfer to counter your argument. Also they picked Pedro Paschal for a reason to be Reed Richards. Now I love Paschal as an actor (Joel and Sand Snake are awesome characters), but we all know how FF will turn out.
Not a fair comparison to Barbie. Furiosa is a prequel. A Barbie sequel will bomb, just like the Marvels. People have to pay first. Once they know the story, good luck
The shamelessness of Mad Max without Max for a start.....girl-boss (and bad actor Hemsworth) fatigue?.....and too many years (and too much art direction) too late .....It should have been the first film, I imagine they play much better in the correct order. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it might be even if it was over-blown and over art-directed into an almost-parody of what made the franchise. On the bright side it wasn't as bad as Borderlands looks and appears to be!
I watched it the other day (Arrrrr) and it was pretty good. Furiosa wasn't the most interesting character in the film but everything else was a pretty entertaining ride.
Love 2, really like 1 and 3, agree 4 was okay/visually amazing. So, I really Like ATJ, I think she can likely carry a film. The first issue obviously, is hardly anyone wants a Mad Max movie with no Max. There are a thousand stories in the wastelands, we need a common thread to care. Without it, Waterworld a Mad Max saga for all anyone knows. That aside, anyone who did want a Furiosa movie, wanted Charlize T. So thats another point off. Lastly, a good female led movie with no mass appeal has no chance of sticking out nowadays, 15+ years ago it was the same for male led, it's how some flops become classics after alk. To add a slight tangent, they keep compounding the issue for the next one as well, ones if there are more. A mistake a lot of other franchises have to make, Mad Max doesn't, or didn't. The line between (beyond?) Thunderdome and Fury Road was murky, this FR prequel solidifies that line in so many ways. Even as a fan, I now have no need to watch anything set after this film, even if there are rave (trusted) reviews it's not my Max. Just like it's not my Luke, Kirk, Batman etc.
I watched only because you, drinker, Gary, etc.. All said it was good. Not awesome, but very good. You'll change your mind in the future. This is a meh movie but insanely bloated. A few good moments and good Chris performance only elevates the movie from bad to meh. And as you can see, the audience agrees.
Honestly I think it would’ve been better as a series, I thought that we needed more time with Mary & Jack specifically. Hardly any time was spent at the Green Place, focusing on Mary’s bond with her daughter. Or developing Furiosa & Jack’s relationship, at a certain point it just gets too long for a film, I think it would’ve been much more successful as a series.
Its ironic that you use that as an example because Ken was the brake out Character of that movie to the point that their in talks to give Ken his own movie. SO you're going to have to use another example.🤣🤣🤣
I'm a 44yo male, I saw Barbie bc I like Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling (he's literally me), I didn't go see Furiosa bc I don't like Anna Taylor Joy and I can't stand Hemsworth...
"Male & pale" isn't really a pro or con when it comes to box office success. Maybe for Furiosa because Mad Max (the character everyone wanted) is both of those things & the audience was denied him. "Seasoned Pro" would be more of the lesson. You can't DEI hire your way into a hit & people don't want to be preached at about who they're voting for or gender ideology. Hire seasoned professionals to create a well told story, with proven box office draws in front of the camera, which is entertaining yet appeals to common human experience: then you will have a hit.
I liked the movie a lot until the final scene when it was revealed to be an extended story of murderous vengeance and torment against the male oppressor. It was cruel and unworthy of a so-called heroine, a real indictment of the morality of the thing.
I was commenting about The Last of Us Season 1 and how it is surprising that the girl boss movement didn't overwhelm it. Joel is an awesome but flawed character and so much of the season emphasized that fact (even in the episode focusing on Bill and Frank). Waiting for Season 2 to duplicate the mistakes of the other franchises (Hollywood worried that they are running out of old legacy white male characters to denigrate). I know how the second video games went (I don't play them myself), and delaying that as long as possible is the only chance to save that series. In fact they should go off script early on like The Walking Dead did.
The movie was fantastic and hope it has a long tail and makes its money back and then some in the long run. They just don’t make films like this enough. I hope we get Mad Max Wasteland, George Miller is a genius.
furiosa is a good movie that got overlooked becuz of the culture war. men saw a girl lead and assumed it would be a woke girlboss dumpsterfire combined with being a mad max title with no mad max in it spelled box office disaster.
@@Sam_T2000 No, it was an anounced bait & switch. Fury Road was also a bait & switch but they were not that bold to anounce it in advance that Mad Max is merely a sidecharacter in his own movie. In this one they skipped him outright though and made it clear. Not interested! PS: Fury Road was such a bad movie. Great to look at but a really laughably bad story, so that might have had an influence on the low numbers as well.
They fooled me with fury road, they ain't getting me twice with Furiosa. Thanks to years of forced agenda I don't trust any female lead action films and none are getting my money.
@@Erik-Winters - Max Rockatansky was only a proper character in the first movie, in the others he’s a glorified POV character… and who goes to a _Mad Max_ movie for the story? 😅
@@Sam_T2000 Tbh I disagree with your view of Max. In the second and even the third he was a decent and integral character (rewatch them!). But Fury Road was just laughably bad in that regard. It pretty much wouldn't have mattered if he wasn't there at all. And as for the story, well I get what you mean, But if you don't care about the story at all you can just as well read the yellow pages or watch a compilation of explosions. There has to be something and it should be coherent and make sense in some regard otherwise I think it's just a waste of time.
A lot of plot but no story, atrocious dialogue, most of the CGI looks unfinished, sets and costumes from a streaming show, too long. It should have failed harder.
Im not into Anya Taylor Joy anymore. I hate what she's done to herself in terms of plasstic surgery. And she has some kind of weird idea about "female rage" that she admits she inserts into every role she places.
I thought Borderlands was OK but lacked sarcastic humor and Handsome Jack. Atlas is also a defunct company in the Borderlands universe so that felt weird. It would have been better as a series. I loved the first tales from the borderlands and always add Claptrap to my team to go after the boss but hated the sequel. Deadpool and wolverine was excellent but destroying the TVA would have been a more satisfying ending.
i watched Furiosa, here is why it was a bad movie in my opinion: 1. the Prelude was too long, who cared for the "mother"?! also, made Furiosa look stupid as a kid which didn't fit a postapocalyptic world. 2. it was drawn out. all sections need to be cut down. too many chapters as well. 3. the love story wasn't a love story, there was no chemistry. so...no payoff, no feeling of loss. why dwell on it then? 4. the action that made the previous movie ok was missing in this one. not much happened, the stunts were okish, but the set pieces were on the smaller side, no comparison. 5. the ending was lacking. it started out good, then she shot him....and then it went fantasy for no benefit whatsoever. first i thought she would let him die in the desert just watching 10m away for days, which would have been badass. but no, we need conversation and woke symbolism. 6. some hints at gender hating stuff but i guess thats hollywood these days. you roll your eyes a few times. honestly, modern movies need to hire good editors who cut that stuff down.
Back around 2010 I was so hyped for more female lead action films, especially a Black Widow movie.. Fast forward 14 years and I actively avoid any action films promoting a female lead. I'm exhausted of the girl boss trope and I don't trust any of them all thanks to how badly they were handled by the ideologues.
I am a lover of women and also them being sexy. I too love movies like Ghost in the Shell and Black Widow just to simply enjoy watching Scarlett Johansson. I see your point about them pushing it with Ghostbusters 2016, Oceans 14 the woman one, and just movie after movie featuring these strong women leads. But still here in 2024 we get Furiosa with ATJ and Damsel with Millie Bobbie Brown and I sat there fully immersed with both movies. They just gotta do it right and Im all in with women leads. Give me movies like Lucy and Anna and Morgan and Prey anytime. My 2 cents.
Ya but furiosa was really good. Best movie if the year imo
Decades ago Alien and Terminator had shown that its not only possible, but can be actually great and that there is a huge audience there for it. But those obnoxious girlbosses that can't stand on their own but always have to put down guys got really old, really fast. These days I actively avoid all movies that only have a hint of that because it just ruins everything...
some women can convince people they can take on action roles, Scarjo isnt one of them.
I still imagine a Black Widow movie that showed Bucharest being a Xenophon like (ie Warriors) story where Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Mockingbird among others fight their way out of the city while being pursued by an awesome Red Guardian (not that crap character that ended up after the spectacular opening scene with him in the actual Black Widow movie). That movie occurring right before Endgame. It would further emphasize the sacrifice of Black Widow in Endgame which should have been done differently with Hawkeye actually pushing Black Widow over the edge after the two concluding he needs to live because of his family - the whole fight to commit suicide was ridiculous and took away from the dramatic moment). Such a missed opportunity to give us a female Taskmasters head on a male stuntman's body.
Personal story. Went to see Fury Road because I was excited to see a new Mad Max movie. I was disappointed, which is why I didn't go to see Furiosa, having learned my lesson from Fury Road. Perhaps Hollywood should start taking exit interviews so they don't get the false impression that something is successful because lots of people went to see it, based on false promises and false premises.
exit reviews would be a good idea, but theyve made it clear they don't care what the customers think so it probably wouldnt help
@@MerlosTheMad Thinking how easy it would be to ask the customers, did you enjoy this movie yes/no do you want a sequel yes/no
Guys, i love you, but don't go all monocausal on why movies fail: it's not always 'waaamaaan' or sloppy storytelling, sometimes a good film can fail because it does not have mass appeal. successful movies have a distinct plot that is easy to follow and summarize and offers exciting set pieces, that are well-made - it is, in other words, easy to market through word-of-mouth. FURIOSA did not have that, it's a film for film buffs first and not enough of an audience pleaser. It's plot meanders, in too episodic 'chapters', it has less action than the predecessor and feels overall more disjointed. The overall quality of all that is still high, but it's just very difficult to tell other people what's so great about it. If all that wasn't the case, the lack of Max would never have bothered any of the audience, I'm 100% sure.
I loved Furiosa, but I think it would’ve been a better choice to make it a series, since certain characters and plot threads definitely needed more time to breathe. This film is clearly setting up “the Wasteland” which is a prequel about Max, that was partially adapted into the 2015 video game, which with a few tweaks has potential to be a quintessential Mad Max story. It would’ve been crazy to have that release alongside a mainline Max film, or just make it one big series, I feel like people would totally be more inclined to check it out that way, going for a Game of Thrones approach would’ve been my choice.
The biggest flaw in Mad Max was that it didn't have enough Max. Furiosa nixed Max altogether while selling it as a "Mad Max Saga"
That too. The Jeffersons was a spin-off from All in the Family. A Man Called Hawk was a spin-off of Spencer: for Hire. They each did well, and for the people who never knew they were spin-offs it didn't matter. Mad Max fans would have recognized the name Furiosa and knew it was set in that universe. Everyone else would have enjoyed it or not based off of its merits.
have you watched the original trilogy?
@@CATDHD i have, I still expected more Max. The scene where he went into the fog and the camera stayed with the truck. It wasn't Mad Max movie.
@@vinson1445right. Had they dropped the “mad max” title, it might have done better. Seeing it as a bait and switch made me not want to see it. Especially since Fury Road was already a bait and switch. Muzzling the hero for most of the movie. Even the poster has him relegated to background noise.
The target market of Barbie was middle-aged women who wanted to take their daughters to see the film.
It was also helped by the fact that they masked the "woke" with a slick ad campaign.
Well it worked. Idk why so many people get upset this movie did well. It knew its audience, it knew its product, and it adequately sold it to them. I see so many guys raging that women went saw a Barbie movie smh. Shouldn’t we be glad a movie made for women was seen by women because then maybe Hollywood will take the hint that women want these kinds of films instead of trying to force females into action and superheroes genres
@@Lawrence_Talbot As long as the movie doesn't make the male co-stars weak to build up your female lead then I have no problem with it. Doing that doesn't make your female lead look good, it makes them look terrible. Barbie is probably the one brand that hadn't been ruined by that yet. And they didn't push it in any of the promotional material until people saw it and found out. Plus it was a cool "CHALLENGE" to see Oppenheimer and Barbie. Which helped Nolan's film. Like I said, slick marketing and being quiet about the content made it successful.
@@Lawrence_Talbot I'm a woman who's a little annoyed the film did so well, just because of the pandering, misandry, and intellectual dishonesty. But I'm much more annoyed at the target audience who bought into its BS.
@@Lawrence_Talbot People are upset it did so well because it reflects 2024 American society in that the women want nothing more than to be vapid self-indulgent consumers that have "men" as accessories and "men" want nothing more than to wear tight bright shorts and look good for all the other "men". It is a moronic breakdown of modern society. Those who "love it" are fully on board for the descent. The minds behind this movie are perverts and degenerates who see society as a game of payback for all the people who hurt them when they were young, the message of the individual being the absolutely most important person in existence, at the cost of any type of functioning society. Maybe you haven't noticed yet, but take a look outside your window...America is burning to the ground, films like this are fuel on the flames.
I've discussed with others why Furiosa didn't work. To me, as many others have also agreed with me on this, Furiosa wasn't that interesting of a character to warrant a prequel story with her. She was okay as a one-off character for Fury Road, much like many of the other one-off characters that have turned up in past Mad Max films. Furiosa was only as interesting as the one-off character she was in Fury Road. No one wanted a prequel about that character (Hell, there was a set of prequel stories involving the characters from this film, including one about Max, but no one bought them). Furiosa didn't need a prequel any more than any other one-off character that has been seen in the films. That's why I wasn't interested in seeing it, regardless how well reviewed it is.
Yeah, it’s not rocket science. Most people like Mad Max movies because they like the character of Max. People go to a Batman movie to see Batman, not some other character from your last Batman movie. Same goes with any franchise. You could make the most badass spy movie ever, set in the Bond universe, have it star the last Bond girl and I am NOT interested. The logic behind this film is just mind boggling. I really feel like once Mel got in trouble, Miller just wanted to ditch the character entirely as an FU to him.
Exactly. She is a side character in Max's story, not the other way around.
It's not hard to see why _Furiosa_ failed. Here are the reasons:
It was made almost 10 years after _Fury Road._
No one cares about the character Furiosa. She is a side character in Max's story, not the other way around. The film used the subtitle "A _Mad Max_ Saga" name because it could not have succeeded without a connection to a famous franchise. Even with the connection, it was a bomb. Audiences saw right through that one.
People are sick and tired of female-led action films, especially women. They largely don't succeed at the box office, yet studios still make them for the purpose of social engineering and devotion to ideology.
People wanted a sequel to _Fury Road_ with Max as the lead. Making a _Mad Max_ film without Mad Max was the worst decision George Miller could have possibly made.
I didn't see Furiosa because it's a prequel - we know she'll show up in the future in Fury Road, so there's no stakes for her. We know she'll survive everything thrown at her which takes all the tension away. I didn't care to see too deeply into her backstory, we saw just enough in Fury Road to make her compelling. I didn't want to see 40 minutes of her as a child. Another reason I didn't see it is because the actress's eyes are abnormally far apart, and I find it a little unnerving.
Yes. Stop with the damn prequels.
@@exhaustguyHow else are they going to show that a woman did it first, and better?
Yet as much as the movie was told through her eyes, there were stakes involved for those around her. The world was made darker and more violent than even in Fury Road.
Your loss, fantastic movie and how you make a prequel compelling
They have not yet earned our trust.
After the nonsense in recent years they will never earn my trust again!
George Miller after 45 years of making great films hasn't earn your trust. Seriously.
@@raymondsmith6870 The movie was boring so not trusting his 45 years of moviemaking saved my wallet some pain.
@@raymondsmith6870 he hasn't made a good movie since The Road Warrior.
@@cormoran2303
Only boring people are bored so easily.
My main problem with Furiosa (apart from not have a compelling reason to exist) was the terrible lookig CGI. MM has always been about that gritty, sweaty, visceral action and stunt work, and nearly every frame of this looked like full CGI or greenscreen, which just took the viewer out of it. The recap scenes of Fury Road over the credits was just a reminder of how much better that movie was.
Male and Pale can’t Fail ! I’m lovin it !
I'm disgusted with how casual people are with overt antiwhiteism.
I don't care about Furiosa but I want to support you talking about anything other than Disney.
Disney is a conglomerate that has destroyed Marvel, Star Wars and Dr Who among many other IPs. So yeah, they're gonna be talked about.
Week 3 for wolverine. I was seeing it for a 2nd time. The theater was packed. I could barely find a time that had a seat. When you make fun movies, people show up. And this movie wasn't concerned about appealing to the masses. It was giving people what they wanted to see. And even non fans showed up.
I watched Mad Max: Fury Road, and I found it to be quite cool. After seeing that film which felt a bit more focused on Furiosa than Max...my general sentiment was "Well, I hope the next one is a film where it gets to be all about Max"...and what did Warner Bros give me? A prequel that is 100% about Furiosa.
Instead of a Sequel all about Max, I got a prequel all about Furiosa. I will never watch this movie.
But, it's a good movie. Stop being triggered like a little girl.
You leftists ever have an original idea? You're pathetic.
@@bassage13 If you like a movie, that’s cool. If someone else doesn’t like the same movie, that’s cool. Everyone has a right to like or dislike what they choose. If anyone sounds like a pre-pubescent kid gatekeeping what other people like or dislike, it’s you.
@@bassage13 There's nothing triggering about it. I'm not interested in watching it. There are plenty of movies I am not interested in seeing even if they are good.
It is about being interesting to me enough to get me to watch it. I'm glad people love it, people loved Barbie too...I have no interest in watching either.
@@creategreatness8823 Ok, lady.
I agree with the time thing. A lot of movies now have to be almost three hours long for some reason. I liked John Wick 4 but it could have been cut way down. I get movies like Dune and LOTR being long because they're epic stories, but Furiosa could have been trimmed way down.
Mad Max itself is not an highly popular franchise. They made matters significantly worse by having a horrendously high production cost and not including Max. They got lucky with Fury Road. They tried to ride a wave that had no ass behind it.
correct. the original Max trilogy are what we now call "cult classics"... they were decently received by the normies back in the day, but certainly not blockbusters of any sort! the following grew over time and reshowings over the years. while i appreciate george miller's desire to go back to that world and bring more stories from it to the screen, the audience really was never demanding it, or even asking for such, as most people recognized that with the existing 3 films, the story of Max was largely, if not fully told. There were never any spin-off characters who warranted their own stories being told as standalones. cheers!
How about this: same exact film, but you name it Dementus and make Hemsworth the focus in marketing.
Does it do better ?
no, you don't really see much of him. he is a good villain, but we know nothing about his motivations other than "lost his children obviously somehow".
Wow! All of those top films of 24 are big budget sequels.
Honestly- I thought it was great. Best action film I’ve seen in ages.
I would've seen Furiosa if stuck to real effects, real sets, stayed true to the tones and themes of the originals.
The commercial with Harmsworth looked campy, overly-CGI, flat, and inappropriately comedic such that it reminded me of Fat Thor rather than Mad Max.
A good amount of Furiosa was practical and looked as good as Fury Road and at times even better. It was a dark movie and Hemsworth was as good as any previous villain. The trailer did it wrong. Only because of the good reviews did I take the risk and theatrically Furiosa was amazing to behold. The sound was perfect too!
The trailer actually didn’t do a good job of conveying his character, the trailers for Fury Road weren’t great either, just look up some scenes online and you’ll see.
if Furiosa is on par with Ellen Ripley, in time the film will get the recognition it will deserve IMO. The reason it flopped was multi factorial, including an economy in which people don’t have disposable income and one in which we have seen so many terrible girl boss movies.
Furiosa is clearly setting up a prequel about Max called The Wasteland, the script of which was loosely adapted into the 2015 video game, it deals with the aftermath of Furiosa’s events, and Scabrous Scrotus becomes the main antagonist. It adds so much context to Fury Road, if it ever gets made it’ll most certainly be a success. If you want to know more about the plot just play the game, or watch some videos about it, it’s semi-canonical however. And if George Miller wants to step down, it would be insane if Mel Gibson came back to direct.
Has Furiosa done that badly? Never saw it. Had nothing against it or for it. Sort of a shame it didn't do well.
The reason it failed is that Mad Max isn't popular to begin with, you then make a sequel about a secondary!!!! character in the movie and you make her look like and promote it like a girl boss, the Mary Sue character that we all hate and have enough of..... then you gonna wonder why it failed.... We don't need Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out.
I agree with this but there is an even bigger reason this failed… no hot sweaty women… sounds crude to say this but Anya Taylor joy is a niche beauty. She isn’t attractive in a way that translates to a larger audience. Even if she was a classic Hollywood beauty the character spends 60 percent of the movie as a kid so all of the time where she could have spent ingratiating her self to the viewer she is a completely different actress and a silly little girl at that. Then there is no male attractiveness either Hemsworth is a creeper who hides his abs the whole film.
Yeah mad max is super popular in other locations, plus no max
Mad Max isn't popular? Da fuq?! She wasn't even a Mary Sue either.
@@Devypocalypse She wasn't a Mary Sue, no, but she's still a female replacement of a legacy male character. No more of that. Make your own stuff to stand on its own merits or not at all.
@@fitzj4This isn't a girl boss movie. You didn't even watch it.
Because no one can believe an actress who can be blown away by the wind as an action star.
why go to Rotten Tomatoes for anything? Let alone box office... you know Box Office Mojo has yearly box office charts. Just bookmark that chart, lol
Shame it didn't do well. It was probably one of the better movies this summer. It's not hard to guess why it flopped, though. 1. It's "A Mad Max Saga" without Mad Max. Strike one. 2. The marketing framed it as a girlboss film. Strike two. 3. It was about a secondary character that nobody but people in the media and their shills on social media were super hyped for in the first place, and it wasn't even played by the same actor who introduced the character. Strikes three and four. Furiosa wasn't a bad character, but nothing about Fury Road demanded any answers about her backstory. The movie actually wasn't a girlboss story, and Furiosa ended up an interesting and endearing character. The story ajd worldbuilding were interesting and the action was great. It didn't deserve its fate, but that's what happens when you have bad marketing. This would have been much better served either as a Max miniseries or as a film that didn't present itself as "the future of the franchise," rather as an optional side adventure for those who want more from the world of Mad Max. Honestly, I only cared to see it because a friend wanted to. I'm glad I dod because it was way better than I expected, but I wouldn't have seen it for all of the reasons preciously listed. Hope it at least does well on physical media and VOD.
What about people who genuinely like Mad Max as a series? Don’t you think they’re the people who were largely excited for it? I was there day one, but it’s not as big here as it is overseas.
Furiosa failed because it was dull. Lets see from fury road we knew she was taken from the green place, rose through the racks to be head driver, Lost her arm and wanted to get back. All the movie did was flesh out a story that was maybe good enough for a flash back then put on top of that some janky special effects and an ending set in stone she was never going to escape and her love interest wasn't making it to the end of the movie. And all you are left with is some ok action scenes, a story that truthfully most people didn't care about and a comedy relief Humungus
Most Mad Max fans couldn't ignore the absence of Max, and I can appreciate that, but I still wish they'd given it a chance. After all, Max was exactly the lead in _Fury Road,_ he sort of shared that with the adult Furiosa, and it still delivered more of the over-the-top chases and crashes and stunts that we all love and see a Max movie for. And this Furiosa was *not* a "girl boss," so if the fans were believing that, they were mistaken, but they just didn't want to test their assumptions. Sad. But there are a whole myriad of reasons for this not succeeding, and the studio will just have to live with it and we will too, because...since _Fury Road_ and _Furiosa_ did so poorly we might not have any more Mad Max films.
The Marvels was the straw that broke the camel’s back. After that, people were done with these feminine action movies.
_Fury Road_ was not a box-office bomb like _Furiosa._
Hollywood is all out of chances from the audience. They can start putting out media that the audience wants, or they can go out of business. Either way is fine with me (and millions of others).
@@GuigleyFuriosa broke even
@@Guigley Okay. I had heard different on some other YT channel. I see its est. budget was $150M and its gross worldwide was $380,437,267, so it did do better than break even, movie wise, but it wasn't a huge hit, which if probably why the studio greenlit _Furiosa,_ more's the pity. Perhaps Tom Hardy wasn't interested in a direct sequel, which would have been great.
I thought this movie would be good, but I didn't go see it because I felt like I had already seen it when I saw Fury Road. This was gonna be that, but a little bit less good. That's why. Was I wrong?
George Miller’s track record should have drawn in more people into the theaters.
A lot of George's work is amazing, and FuryRoad is astounding,
but FuryRoad(2014) was the herald that bought in this new girl-boss era. That was even before StarWars started going girl-boss in 2015. Ten years later and we've seen soooooooo many franchises go this way... especially those of us who play computer-games as well as watch movies. It's a plague. And so often these girl-boss characters are written with spite, and involve degrading the old male characters. People are sick of it.
I heard George pitched 3 completely different stories/scripts for a potential next MadMax movie, and the executives who make decisions chose the only one that didn't have Max, and did have a girl-boss. It's not George's fault this failed. It's 100% the executive's fault. George's name isn't enough to make me assume that sleazy executives aren't shoving their nasty anti-male messaging into a franchise.
Reasons I think Furiosa failed.
1. No Mad Max
2. It came out when feminist, girl bosses and Mary Sues films are hated so much that people didn't want to watch it.
3. They announced Furiosa movie years ago after Fury Road but took too long to process and that killed the anticipations.
4. Fury Road while a hit with fans and critics, didn't make enough at the box office. Same thing with Furiosa.
#2
I don't watch female led action films.
And miss me with "but muh Aliens"
Deadpool and Wolverine has officially crossed a billion dollars at the worldwide box office!
Alyla Browne's performance as child Furiosa was one of my favorite parts of the film. I can't wait to see her play Maria in Sonic 3!
Not only is it a side character but it’s not even Charlize Theron but a totally different actress. It makes the whole thing feel completely detached. I think people would have preferred Theron. You actually felt like she could do the action in Fury Road, unlike the waif-like child in this one who you never believe is doing these things.
And god, 40 MINUTES of her as as a kid! And of course her mom is just as much a badass as Max or her. It’s like everyone is a super fighter now. Furiosa and Max aren’t special if everyone fights like a superhero.
I saw Fury Road in an empty theater on it's opening day, and in a major city. It wasn't that popular. This was even less so. These things are niche films and have never made much money.
A series would’ve been a better format imo, especially since certain characters and plot lines needed more time to breathe. I saw Furiosa opening day in IMAX, someone even brought their little kids in which was really weird- but anyway, if it was an ongoing series and people heard about it being super good- it would’ve gained more traction.
I truly do not understand, Anna Taylor looked 70lbs in that movie, it would be as if a 10 yr old scrawny boy were beating up grown ass rough men!!! Which makes this movie trash from the start!!
It would be like having an Ewok playing Luke from the start, it wouldn’t matter how good the rest of the movie was , it would be all trash.
I don’t recall her overpowering anyone, stealing Scrotus’ car for example- she took advantage of his blind rage and Rictus’ lack of awareness to steal it.
@@ultraviolet540 the movie starts w her as a child “besting” grown men, grown men who have had to have some level of intelligence to survive in that world. Charlize Theron furiosa outsmarting adult men, I’ll believe it 100%, but not 7 yr old furiosa. By the way, that name doesn’t match one bit.
I watched about half an hour of it, got bored and turned it off.
If you're gonna make a post apocalyptic road racing action movie, don't bore me.
I still want to see Mad Max: Wastelands made! Not sure when I first became a Mad Max fan, but about 12 years ago when I was living in Australia, for my Birthday, I flew from Brisbane to Adelaide, drove literally all day to Broken Hill, met up with mate, camped out in the desert, just to go and and see all the Mad Max 2 stuff in Silverton. I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic settings in films. Enjoyed Furiosa, and hoping they make Wastelands!
Hollywood is burning and I'm watching it while eating popcorn.
I put this movie on to see how bad it was, but I ended up sitting down and watching it a few times now. It even made me like Fury Road better (I didn't like that Furiosa was the star of that movie and I just couldn't get into a non-Mel Gibson Mad Max). I agree that Anya Taylor-Joy is a better Furiosa, but I think everyone, men and women, is tired of action movies that don't star men, especially those that try and show women being superior in every way and men are evil morons. It's like all the men in Hollywood just handed their balls over to the women just to shut them up. If we had been making good movies for the past decade, not just superhero or action movies, but all kinds of movies with all kinds of budgets, then I think more people would accept this film. On a side note: I would love to see a final Mel Gibson, "old" Mad Max movie, but then again, I don't want any 2020s DIE infested mind going near it.
I cringe when I hear about a good idea happening because I know by the time the antiwhite scumbags in Hollywood are done it'd be bastardized garbage.
Bring Mel back and it will gross over 1 billion!
Mel the old man reuniting with the wild child from the 2nd movie directed by Mel!
I think Mel Gibson should direct “The Wasteland” if George Miller wants to step down, I know he chose not to do Fury Road, and he wanted to pass the torch to another actor, and possibly because he was more focused on directing by that point. Fury Road was originally slated to star Mel Gibson, but it took so long that plans changed over the years.
“Two men enter, one man leave “ - Tina Turner
Only Mel Gibson is mad Max. We will never care for furiosa
The Marvels Is still a far greater failure than Furiosa.
If you want Max, you can always give the Fanmade short movie HOPE & GLORY a look.
Same reason the Obi Wan series failed. Using an iconic characters name in the title, and then girl boss the hell out of it. People are sick and tired of Hollywood piggy backing more worthy protagonists. At least Netflix got it right with Beverly Hills 4: Axel.
Yup. Remember the news that Blade was set to be the 4th lead in his own movie. Lol. Or the Witcher. Ridiculous.
@@HorrorFilms-oy6fd right on!!! I completely forgot about Witcher?
Crazy because Furiosa is much better than the Marvels.
Lowest bar ever.
@@HorrorFilms-oy6fd Nah to you it is, there much worse out there.
There’s too many gaps in between movies (media in general, including the games). It’s a sparse IP
I think another game, and at least a semi-consistent comic run would be great. The prequel comics are amazing, I think Mary & Jack could benefit from stories about them, they needed more screen time, that’s why I think a longer series would’ve worked better. Still loved it though.
I loved, loved Fury Road. I wasn't able to motivate myself to get to a theater for this, chiefly because prequels are usually a downgrade-- and, to be frank, the theater experience is mostly dead. The last movie I saw in theaters was Godzilla Minus One, but before that... Dr. Strange 2, which was a waste of time and money.
I like Mad Max but I skipped Furiosa because Hollywood has lost my trust
I see a lot of family movies doing well too. Give people some stuff to watch with their kids
Where are all the women who, according to Hollywood, want to see strong female action heroes? Mmm...
Me being a huge movie fan, I stopped going to the movies years ago. All of a sudden, it’s been three weekends in a row of me going to watch a new movie. Deadpool and Wolverine, Twisters, and Trap. Am I getting back into movies? Looks promising. I hope they don’t go back to woke broke material. There is indeed a ray of light.
It was a highly unnecessary prequel. Fury Road gave us just enough information about Furiosa to keep her interesting and mysterious. I liked not knowing everything about her, like how she lost her arm. The prequel just didn't need to happen.
Furiosa had a lot of things going against it: Mad Max isn't a super popular property to begin with, this movie was a prequel about a side character, it came out in a time where female protagonists are overdone and done poorly, and it came out way too late after Fury Road. If it came out a year or two after Fury Road it would have likely done better or at least wouldn't be fighting such an uphill battle.
But I believe its lateness can be chalked up to a lawsuit between Miller and the studio, right? I knew that the director wanted to do more with Furiosa after Fury Road but something got in the way, and whatever it was ultimately sabotaged this movie, intentionally or not.
It did not fail on its merits, it failed because of the circumstances around it.
I want a Mad Max film with Mad Max.
Not gonna lie. Even without Mad Max, seeing the world expanded was pretty good.
Immortan Joe, the Citadel, the other baddies... It felt good.
Sure it was Furiosa's film... but if Max was here it would be even more better!
This film is clearly setting up The Wasteland, a prequel about Max that was loosely adapted into the 2015 video game. It will heavily involve the aftermath of the Wasteland Wars, seeing Scabrous Scrotus take over Gastown- and establishing a blood feud with Max, it’s a long story but its quintessential Mad Max, there’s a Thunderdome, the Interceptor, etc. If that ever gets made into live action it’ll most certainly be a success.
@@ultraviolet540 the video game was so rad. Wish they went through with the Fury Road DLC there....
Oh boy. Diversity and Comics will make about 15 community posts crying about the title, maybe a 40 minute video as well lol. The guy really lost his mind after Furiosa's failure.
It was a solid movie. And a good back story. But I wanted a new mad max movie. With Max
The wasteland is a great story world but need to be rebranded as such.
One thing I've noticed about 2024 is that it really seems like studios are trying to release movies that the audience wants to see. Weird thing to say in any other era, but in 2024 it makes perfect sense.
Or at least the second half leading from the summer
more like bait and switch tactics.
I give you female Silver Surfer to counter your argument. Also they picked Pedro Paschal for a reason to be Reed Richards. Now I love Paschal as an actor (Joel and Sand Snake are awesome characters), but we all know how FF will turn out.
@@exhaustguy It's sad that the best Fantastic 4 movies were done 2 decades ago and we'll probably never get anything better, and they were just okay.
Simple rule of business: you sell to people with money. And who has the overwhelming majority of the money?
Case closed
Not a fair comparison to Barbie. Furiosa is a prequel. A Barbie sequel will bomb, just like the Marvels. People have to pay first. Once they know the story, good luck
They should have removed the title Mad Max from this movie then maybe it would have done better. But all these top 10 films are all sequels.
The shamelessness of Mad Max without Max for a start.....girl-boss (and bad actor Hemsworth) fatigue?.....and too many years (and too much art direction) too late .....It should have been the first film, I imagine they play much better in the correct order. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it might be even if it was over-blown and over art-directed into an almost-parody of what made the franchise. On the bright side it wasn't as bad as Borderlands looks and appears to be!
The Marvels budget was a hundred million more.
Black girl magic!
Know your audience and stick to the formula they like.
I’d like a 5 year moratorium on female leads in action films. I’m so sick of looking at this crap.
Male and pale, guaranteed sale.
Or you know, they could stop making decisions by if it rhymes or not? 😂
Or be held accountable for overt discrimination.
I watched it the other day (Arrrrr) and it was pretty good. Furiosa wasn't the most interesting character in the film but everything else was a pretty entertaining ride.
Love 2, really like 1 and 3, agree 4 was okay/visually amazing.
So, I really Like ATJ, I think she can likely carry a film. The first issue obviously, is hardly anyone wants a Mad Max movie with no Max.
There are a thousand stories in the wastelands, we need a common thread to care. Without it, Waterworld a Mad Max saga for all anyone knows.
That aside, anyone who did want a Furiosa movie, wanted Charlize T. So thats another point off.
Lastly, a good female led movie with no mass appeal has no chance of sticking out nowadays, 15+ years ago it was the same for male led, it's how some flops become classics after alk.
To add a slight tangent, they keep compounding the issue for the next one as well, ones if there are more. A mistake a lot of other franchises have to make, Mad Max doesn't, or didn't. The line between (beyond?) Thunderdome and Fury Road was murky, this FR prequel solidifies that line in so many ways. Even as a fan, I now have no need to watch anything set after this film, even if there are rave (trusted) reviews it's not my Max.
Just like it's not my Luke, Kirk, Batman etc.
Pretty much ignored any without Gibson. Sorry not sorry. 😂😂😂😮
There is no way she was better Chris, no way......ain"t no way baby 🍷😏🔥
I watched only because you, drinker, Gary, etc.. All said it was good. Not awesome, but very good. You'll change your mind in the future. This is a meh movie but insanely bloated. A few good moments and good Chris performance only elevates the movie from bad to meh. And as you can see, the audience agrees.
Because we're DONE with girl bosses.
Furiosa didn't need to have Max. The CGI was below average and the movie was too long. Still a good movie though and should have made a lot more money
Honestly I think it would’ve been better as a series, I thought that we needed more time with Mary & Jack specifically. Hardly any time was spent at the Green Place, focusing on Mary’s bond with her daughter. Or developing Furiosa & Jack’s relationship, at a certain point it just gets too long for a film, I think it would’ve been much more successful as a series.
Barbie was a movie about Barbie. It wasn’t a movie called Barbie that was all about KEN. You’re welcome.
Ken was the hero though and some of the women looked like they came right off the DEI short bus...
Its ironic that you use that as an example because Ken was the brake out Character of that movie to the point that their in talks to give Ken his own movie.
SO you're going to have to use another example.🤣🤣🤣
Lol "brake" 😂🤣😂🤣🤡
It wasn’t a good movie. It’s got way too much CGI than Fury Road and the movie is too damn long.
I'm a 44yo male, I saw Barbie bc I like Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling (he's literally me), I didn't go see Furiosa bc I don't like Anna Taylor Joy and I can't stand Hemsworth...
"Male & pale" isn't really a pro or con when it comes to box office success. Maybe for Furiosa because Mad Max (the character everyone wanted) is both of those things & the audience was denied him. "Seasoned Pro" would be more of the lesson. You can't DEI hire your way into a hit & people don't want to be preached at about who they're voting for or gender ideology. Hire seasoned professionals to create a well told story, with proven box office draws in front of the camera, which is entertaining yet appeals to common human experience: then you will have a hit.
It's an awesome film, and even more artsy than an action film. People are just fed up with a female lead. The film is amazing.
I agree 1000% the other crap movies hurt this. The movie is great
I liked the movie a lot until the final scene when it was revealed to be an extended story of murderous vengeance and torment against the male oppressor. It was cruel and unworthy of a so-called heroine, a real indictment of the morality of the thing.
@@tylerware2836one (or a couple dozen) bad apples spoil the bunch
Male and Pale isn't what made Deadpool 3 succeed, though. It's the easter eggs and cameos, the prancing of actors, rather than the actual story.
Keep telling yourself that. They just cast RDJ again because we’re sick of forced diversity.
A mad Max movie with no mad max?...lol NO!
The only movie to outdo the overt antiwhite maleness of A Quiet Place Day One Is BirdBox. Wow that was absolutely ridiculously anti white male.
I actually enjoyed Furiosa, especially when you watch it right before Fury Road. The Marvels was a pile of poo.
This movie is a solid 8/10
Furiosa is so damn good. Im just happy it was made. Watch this then Fury Road... It is a sublime experience. Sheesh.
Agreed. Unbelievable film. Female lead was the issue, people are fed up with it.
@@SeekingGodsWill absolutely the best film I’ve seen this year. I should have seen this at the movies.
But it isn't that good. It was lacking in the action department. Had it delivered on that front it would have been better received.
I was commenting about The Last of Us Season 1 and how it is surprising that the girl boss movement didn't overwhelm it. Joel is an awesome but flawed character and so much of the season emphasized that fact (even in the episode focusing on Bill and Frank). Waiting for Season 2 to duplicate the mistakes of the other franchises (Hollywood worried that they are running out of old legacy white male characters to denigrate). I know how the second video games went (I don't play them myself), and delaying that as long as possible is the only chance to save that series. In fact they should go off script early on like The Walking Dead did.
The movie was good
The movie was fantastic and hope it has a long tail and makes its money back and then some in the long run.
They just don’t make films like this enough. I hope we get Mad Max Wasteland, George Miller is a genius.
untrue... charlize theron is way better furiosa, your judgment sometimes, your inner john campea comes out
furiosa is a good movie that got overlooked becuz of the culture war. men saw a girl lead and assumed it would be a woke girlboss dumpsterfire combined with being a mad max title with no mad max in it spelled box office disaster.
they should’ve just taken the first “chapter” or two and made it the prologue to _Fury Road_ 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sam_T2000 No, it was an anounced bait & switch. Fury Road was also a bait & switch but they were not that bold to anounce it in advance that Mad Max is merely a sidecharacter in his own movie. In this one they skipped him outright though and made it clear. Not interested!
PS: Fury Road was such a bad movie. Great to look at but a really laughably bad story, so that might have had an influence on the low numbers as well.
They fooled me with fury road, they ain't getting me twice with Furiosa. Thanks to years of forced agenda I don't trust any female lead action films and none are getting my money.
@@Erik-Winters - Max Rockatansky was only a proper character in the first movie, in the others he’s a glorified POV character… and who goes to a _Mad Max_ movie for the story? 😅
@@Sam_T2000 Tbh I disagree with your view of Max. In the second and even the third he was a decent and integral character (rewatch them!). But Fury Road was just laughably bad in that regard. It pretty much wouldn't have mattered if he wasn't there at all. And as for the story, well I get what you mean, But if you don't care about the story at all you can just as well read the yellow pages or watch a compilation of explosions. There has to be something and it should be coherent and make sense in some regard otherwise I think it's just a waste of time.
A lot of plot but no story, atrocious dialogue, most of the CGI looks unfinished, sets and costumes from a streaming show, too long.
It should have failed harder.
Im not into Anya Taylor Joy anymore. I hate what she's done to herself in terms of plasstic surgery. And she has some kind of weird idea about "female rage" that she admits she inserts into every role she places.
I thought Borderlands was OK but lacked sarcastic humor and Handsome Jack. Atlas is also a defunct company in the Borderlands universe so that felt weird. It would have been better as a series. I loved the first tales from the borderlands and always add Claptrap to my team to go after the boss but hated the sequel. Deadpool and wolverine was excellent but destroying the TVA would have been a more satisfying ending.
Yes, it doesn't have Max, but furiosa was still a fun time, and people slept on it
Mary Sue = poison. I just say no to female led modern movies. Cliched crap.
Then why did the latest Dead Reckoning flop? I enjoyed it, but it didn't do well. Male and pale is?
i watched Furiosa, here is why it was a bad movie in my opinion:
1. the Prelude was too long, who cared for the "mother"?! also, made Furiosa look stupid as a kid which didn't fit a postapocalyptic world.
2. it was drawn out. all sections need to be cut down. too many chapters as well.
3. the love story wasn't a love story, there was no chemistry. so...no payoff, no feeling of loss. why dwell on it then?
4. the action that made the previous movie ok was missing in this one. not much happened, the stunts were okish, but the set pieces were on the smaller side, no comparison.
5. the ending was lacking. it started out good, then she shot him....and then it went fantasy for no benefit whatsoever.
first i thought she would let him die in the desert just watching 10m away for days, which would have been badass. but no, we need conversation and woke symbolism.
6. some hints at gender hating stuff but i guess thats hollywood these days. you roll your eyes a few times.
honestly, modern movies need to hire good editors who cut that stuff down.
Mary Jabassa & Praetorian Jack needed more screen time, that’s why I think a series would’ve worked better, like Game of Thrones when it was good.
I watched it & didn’t enjoy it 💀
Why? It was a bad girl boss movie. And stick figure was awful at playing a man.
Charlize Theron is a very lazy actor. She almost singlehandedly wrecked the movie version of The Road because she refused to play a weak character.