Faith & Fascism: Rob Reiner & Dan Partland Tackle Christian Nationalism w/ God & Country Documentary
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How does a religion that claims to be rooted in love and peace fire people up to commit violence, as at the Capitol on January 6, 2021? In a brand-new documentary, “God & Country”, producer Rob Reiner and director Dan Partland explore Christian Nationalism - a toxic brew of patriarchal White Nationalism and messianic faith. Based on the book “The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism” by Katherine Stewart, “God & Country” exposes how Christian Nationalism poses a real and immediate threat, not only to the very idea of secular democracy but also to Christianity itself. Reiner is an Emmy-winning actor and acclaimed director, best known for his work on “All In The Family”, “When Harry Met Sally” and “The Princess Bride”. He is also a political activist dedicating his time to numerous social justice causes. Partland, a veteran documentary producer and director for film and television, is a five-time Emmy nominee with two Emmys for Best Nonfiction Series including American High on Fox. Whether you’re a Christian or a concerned citizen, this episode is a must-watch. Plus, a closing commentary from Laura on becoming actively engaged in our democracy.
“If you believe the United States has a God-ordained role to play in human history as a Christian nation and democracy is taking us away from those principles, then you can justify doing anything to make sure that God's will is done. That's what I think you see happening on January 6th.” - Dan Partland
“Christian nationalism . . . as this political movement is not the majority. It is far from the majority. What is scary is that because of the way our system works, a very virulent minority can control our politics and that's what they've done.” - Rob Reiner
Guests:
Dan Partland: Director, God & Country
Rob Reiner: Producer, God & Country
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Credits:
Executive Producer: Laura Flanders
Supervising Producer: Sabrina Artel
Consulting Producer: Rory O’Connor
Development Director: Sarah Miller
Senior Video Editor: David Neumann
Creative Designer & Video Editor: Nat Needham
Audio Director: Jeannie Hopper
Communications Director: Janet Hernandez
Executive Assistant: Nady Piña
Thumbnail photo via "God & Country".
Those who can get you to believe absurdities, can get you to commit atrocities.
Like on January 6, 2021.
Blah blah blah
Ya absurdities like January 6 was an insurrection.
Give Voltaire the credit for this quote.
@@kurtdunbar912 He also said "Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do"
Nietzsche wrote "God will never die as long as man believes in grammar". Who controls the Grammar? A media monopoly with
G eppetto's
O ligarchic
D isseminators on K Street. G.O.D. on K St uses an angel named A.L.E.C. (for American Legislative Executive Council) who writes all the bills that Congress never reads. Nietzche was right, G.O.D. will never die. G.O.D.s angel, A.L.E.C. is well paid!! By whom, you may ask? A
F eudal
A merican
R epublic of
C orporate/(Christian)
E ntities better known as F.A.R.C.E. How does one fight a F.A.R.C.E.? With Farce.
John Adams, one of our founding fathers said in the treaty of Tripoli, that we are a secular nation. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion if you so choose as an individual.
SC Rep fought hard for the split of religion from govt policy, Rep Pinckney the name
I assert that religion is reckoned to be about being good. It doesn't need to have a God.
@@jacksimpson-rogers1069I assert that being good is it’s own reward and doesn’t require religion in any way.
@@jacksimpson-rogers1069Many non-theists are more Christian than many Christians.
@@tonyfanfaroneexactly
It may be about time to tax the Corporation Churches
I agree, hold the Churches accountable for the same standard as I am and how they are far RIGHT. Rich pastors makes a Cult like teaching of the message JESUS brought us.
Waay overdue
Law should be used for the IRS to end Tax-free status, if cherch is telling their sheep 🐑 who to vote for. Separation of Cherch & State is the foundation of our Secular U.S Constitution, our Secular Rule of Law ⚖, our Secular American Democratic Republic USA 🇺🇸 Liberty 🗽 ✌ 🌈 🌎 😊
@@kathleenroberts6931 The IRS used to enforce the tax laws concerning not supporting candidates but Republicans have eroded the IRS power to do so.
A high threshold. Don't tax small ones out of free speech. Big need to pay their share
Tim Alberta: “You need Trump tight fight for you? You have God! If you need Trump when you have God, how small is your theology?”
I never understand fundamentalists. The 1st Amendment is a WIN-WIN. NO one will infringe upon your practice, worship-there are churches, synagogues, temples, TV, radio etc everywhere, whatever , and therefore NO one will infringe their beliefs onto others. RELIGION OUT OF GOVM'T.
You are right. But many Christians are determined to impose their views and beliefs on America. America will never allow this.
You would not have the United States or the Constitution without Christianity. There would not be western civilization without Christian Nationalism, who stopped the Muslim invasions. Hindu Nationalism equally fought Muslim oppression for 400 years.
Each and every citizen has the right to believe or not believe what so they believe. It has nothing to do with our Federal Govt. and the Constitution. The US has not State Religion nor does it have Atheism as a State Religion. Each individual citizen has religious freedom.The Existence of Churches or of any religious organization is based on the religious choice of individual citizens supporting that religious organization. Freedom of Religion is one of the important freedoms each and every citizen has. The State is separate and that Separateness from the State protects Freedom of Religion (Faith, Belief). If that separateness is removed than Freedom of Religion for each and every citizen....is than GONE!
It is not fair to group all Christians with these evangelical nuts. However, it is disappointing to see so few politicians of faith stand up for the principles of their faith. Mitt Romney set a good example but he did it when he knew he was leaving. Term limits are needed to help prevent these politicians put their constituents first and not their desperate desire to be reelected.
Until it comes to baking cakes or making websites. Then we want the government to make sure Christians say what the government tells them to say. Or they don't get to run a business.
Ginning up fear and anger is the root of evil… say it like it is!😢
Thank you
The maga way .
Amen 🥲🥲🥲🥲 David huber fear and anger is driving everyone around the bend.
Presshausen Syndrome by Proxy explains the Fox emails showing they knew everything they aired was a fraud. But, the ratings from covering the tragedies that follow when the manure they spread ignites is pure profit!.
@@terryoquinn8199 Trumphausen Syndrome by Proxy is like Munchausen Syndrome in a state leader with a mic. He creates his own victimhood and professes only he can solve it! A 4 week embryo is a zygote the size of a poppy seed, and is not a life. 20,000,000 poppy seeds weigh 10 pounds, or the weight of a very health baby. Poppy seeds are black, all 20,000,000 of them.
Christian Nationalism is not about your relationship with God. Christian Nationalism is about your relationship with the government.
Christian Nationalism is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's a deceptive belief. It's facism dressed up in religious garb. Christian Nationalism is pure political and has nothing at all to do with God. Well said, dspondike!
No, it involves US American’s dysfunctional relationship with both.
@@anushkasekkingstad1300 : Both? One does not actually exist outside of one's own imagination.
@@dspondike Yes both, that “gods” only exist in the imaginations of their cult followers doesn’t preclude the followers from having a relationship with their imaginary cult leaders.
@@anushkasekkingstad1300 : donald and MAGA have REAL effects on reality.
It’s like watching the modern day version of Hitler and his fanatics.
Yes it is and it's terrible
And so, sooooo frightening. I worry for my grandchildren.
Project 2025 - YIKES‼️😰😬
✌️🗳💙🌊🇺🇸
Yes and it’s absolutely terrifying
Jesus was not a white man, he was a person of the Middle East and he was a Jew. I am glad to see some Christian leaders explaining how Christian Nationalists do not represent true Christianity and the teachings and example of Jesus. Jesus Kingdom, as He said is not of this world, and Jesus wanted us to love others, care for the poor and all those considered the least among us.
Yes...the CN crowd has shredded the Beatitudes and the Gospel commands....shamelessly.
Somehow they lost that concept
Christian nationalism has nothing to do with Christianity.
Praise God! Yes indeed!
I'm looking through the comments trying to find one that claims Jesus was a white man. Haven't found one yet.
Does rebutting an argument that nobody's making make you feel smarter?
There is absolutely nothing about "Christian nationalism" that supports what Jesus Christ taught us to do.
Had there not been Christian Nationalism in Europe, no single nation could have stopped the Muslim invasions. There would not have been the Renaissance and the Modern World as we know it today, including America. Think about it. Christian Nationalism is what has created the Western Society.
Christianity w/o Jesus.
You’re not informed.
Luke 22:36 Jesus says, “Let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.”
@@getlost3346lol he didn't say buy a gun. "thou shalt not kill" America is not a Christian nation
Frank Zappa warned us about this in the early 80’s and every word has come true
Indeed. His exact words in 1986 were: "The biggest threat to America today is not communism, it's moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe. [...] When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun."
Nowadays it's even worst than in 1986. The playbook of what Frank called "fascist theocracy" is Project 2025.
Yes he did!
@@harrypeijs5915and the Crossfire panel all laughed at him…
@@harrypeijs5915 Beautifully & comprehensively articulated. Love Zappa. Hoping the musical soundtrack we have enjoyed as we battled for reform steps up now. We could use the rhythm of hope & joy now.
He was a smart guy and actually pretty conservative in some ways. More like a libertarian before libertarians where more than just Republicans that are embarrassed of the party.
Religious fundies of any stripe are to be avoided if you want to live in a free and open society.
Religious hypocracy is a big danger to this once great nation
This nation was never great, it's always been a supremist nation that worships power, domination and money.
When do you imagine the US was ever great?
When you know your history you cease to be evangelical .
This 'nation' has never been but a greedy snake oil bunch of grifters seeking to remain unfound by those searching for them for arrest and from the places they were hounded for robbing stealing and exploiting others.
'once great nation'? Dream on....
It is the biggest danger.
Chris Hedges has been talking about this forever, even wrote a book " American Fascists (The Christian Right & The War on America "
Chris Hedges is a self proclaimed Anarchist and Marxist. His kind would not last 2 hours in Easter Europe if SHTF
Wish he’d take the time to understand the basics of how our monetary system works.
He keeps repeating right wing rhetoric about how money comes from tax payers and our government can go broke
Constitution: Our government issues our national currency when Congress votes to pay for something
It owns the 💵 printing machine.
We use the 💵 it issues to shop, pay our banks back, pay tax & buy treasury bonds
Bonds are just a savings account at our central bank
Yes, I think it's time to get that book - I keep putting it off, but it looks like they're at the gates, at this point, doesn't it?
@@katiecannon8186, who is the "he", of whom you speak?
Jeff Sharlet, too. Books C Street and The Family
Maybe we should ask the Native Americans whose land was stolen from them by “white Christian Americans” how they feel about today’s white Christian Americans fears of disenfranchisement and being “replaced.” Honestly it’s nauseating.
Yes, our country was made great because of thievery, genocide and human trafficking. God or Christianity had nothing to do with it.
Actually, American Indians are no more "Native Americans" than the rest of us. They also immigrated from the Asian Continent to the North American Continent back when the two land masses were joined together before continental drift separated the two continents.
Chief Seattle couldn't convince of owning the land,river,sky. Outgunned he signed, giving what wasn't his
That's not the point David. They were still here thousands of years before Europeans.
Sorry pal but you're the one missing the point. "I was here first " doesn't make you anymore American than people who came here afterwards. We are all immigrants including American Indians. We are all deserving of this country. Arrival time is not relevant. Using that logic would justify claiming that Christians were here before Jews. Therefore, Christians are more authentic Americans than Jews are. Both arguments are flawed. Using or exploiting American Indians as a vehicle to defend current immigrants or demeaning white people in general is not a very good debate tactic. Try using better parallels to make your valid point. Keep claims of superiority and privilege out of the debate. To do otherwise is missing the point. We are all one world. No one deserves any part of it more than others regardless of time line.
I can't wait to see it! As an eating, breathing, sleeping, walking, talking and thinking Christian, and by that I declare that I aspire to the righteousness of the true teachings of Jesus Christ, I am horribly saddened by the power the outspoken minority of self-proclaimed Christians has over the general image projected to and subsequently perceived by our fellow non-Christian Americans. Those alleged followers of Christ are giving the rest of us a bad name and if the masses remain uneducated as to the truths that I believe you've represented in your film, I'm terrified as to what lies ahead. Other than sharing this video and/or your film, I pray for guidance daily and seek opportunities to scream these concepts out from the mountain tops out. 🙏
"...the outspoken minority of self-proclaimed Christians..." Is there a committee that endows "Christian" on the real ones, or is every single Christian self-proclaimed? No true Scotsman is a fallacy that should be avoided, and is a pitfall that comes up in so much religious discussion. God told us clearly, but those guys are doing it wrong because they didn't read the bible right. "Right minded readers read rightly.", as the pastor aften says.
Our founding fathers saw what had been happening in Europe with millions of Catholics and Protestants killing each other so they wanted to keep religion separate from political power. They also saw the inquisitions. Religion in power means authoritarianism.
ChrisNat’ is all about POWER & CONTROL. PERIOD‼️👹
Yes their own selfish wealth and power.
Control and authority over everybody whose not their type of Christian. It's Purity culture like in NAZI Germany.
@@lindabalent2755 Religion is about Power over people .
We have to many people that can’t except other people’s beliefs, it’s their way and no other.
You are so right. They can't accept a great deal more than just beliefs. It's so disgusting.
Too not to
Their behavior is an evidence of their weakness in faith,& love.
♥️following the emperor with NO clothes ‼️we need to focus on how Jesus behaved and how those in his crowd were humble and repentant. Not egocentric power hungry individuals.
But not only how Jesus behaved. Luke 6;45 says "...out of the abundance of his heart his mouth speaks". Compare scripture about the fruits of the spirit, pride, mean and demeaning speech, vengeance, haughty spirit, not returning evil for evil,being humble, the spirit of fear, self control, etc , etc.etc to what people speak.
I have no desire to look at some old story over 2000 years ago that was only relevant back then. Not now. that means it will not work now.
@@phoenixtoash2396 well then don't read it. Apparently you're an adult & both free and responsible for making your own decisions. You don't need my permission. But when someone mentions something from that book you shouldn't be surprised that another person would reply about it and reference something from the same book.
We actually do have people running around begging for peace and justice and they're vilified by the status quo. Some claim religion and some claim no religion. But people wanting the good life for everyone in the world are hated.
@@phoenixtoash2396
Some of the atheists and some of the Christians commenting on this post are being silly. The question is where under Heaven did the movement "Christian Nationalists" come from? They are whacky, ungodly and anti democratic 🙄
AMEN 🙏🏽 That is so true, I believe it hurts the Heart of Jesus Christ to see what they are doing in His Name!! Jesus Christ will say on that day when they stand before him “ Truly I know You Not”, Amen 🙏🏽
Learn from history's past. The puritans fled England because of the Church and State system persecuting dissidents. Their descendents ended up repeating same history when they imposed their penal codes and NH became exclusively a Puritan colony for political office. The Framers of The Constitution wanted separation of institutions of Church and State for this reason so that there would be no establishment of one religion but an inclusive society for all faiths. I am talking on these topics
These magas are ignorant of our history somehow. There were Jews in colonial Charleston SC!
See the FRENCH REVOLUTION!
US INCOME INEQUALITY ARE AT LEVELS WHICH RIVAL THAT !
Food inflation well passed 100%++
Odds of CIVIL WAR by January 2025 =100%
If AGENT ORANGE wins via the 12th Amendment then CIVIL WAR !
If THE VEGETABLE wins the The AMERICAN TALIBAN will claim FRAUD , then CIVIL WAR !
AGNOTOLOGY
is the study of deliberate, culturally induced ignorance or doubt, typically to sell a product, influence opinion, or win favour, particularly through the publication of inaccurate or misleading scientific data (disinformation).
Your understanding of European history is understandably very limited. The puritans didn’t flee England because they were persecuted. They were unwilling to obey laws that forbade them persecuting others. They had already been thrown out of the Netherlands for their hatred and bigotry. Returning to England, they discovered their appalling behaviour wasn’t welcome there either and they left for the colonies, where bigotry has been a way of life ever since.
@@anushkasekkingstad1300 Yep. novel "The Scarlett Letter."
@@60asteroid A wonderful novel that perfectly illustrates the negative impact of religious superstition, ignorance and bigotry that exists in the US to this day.
I live in South Africa. I am 56 so experienced a bit of Apartheid for roughly 20 years. We were Cristians and Nationals. I was even happy to serve in the army. We never even considered that Christian and Nationalism were different things!!!! It upheld Apartheid!!!!
I grew up in SA. I am an atheist and was very unhappy being conscripted into the army to uphold apartheid. I eventually left the country because of it.
Long Live Mandela
Ling Live Johnny Clegg
A dear friend of mine was a young soldier in Angola, a Dutch kid from JoBerg. He has never completely recovered from the horrors, which he won't share much they were so bad. He was raised in a Dutch Reform school and church but lives day to day in the USA and is kind to people and dogs. What's left?
So Elon Musk just fits the SA apartheid mold.
You must be Caucasian cause a true African wasn't all that happy...im African but im African American and i knew African in Los Angeles, California they was in the army this was like the mid 60's through lat 70's the service did help a little but when they went home it wasn't that great..
Did anyone involved in this discussion ever read the Treaty of Tripoli? During the Adams administration the treaty stated explicitly that the United States was not a christian nation. This treaty has never been repudiated.
I love that I grew up in a melting pot ♡
me too...I chat up the new immigrants working in convenience stores and groceries. Many have incredible stories. I spoke a bit of French to an old man from Senegal and he grinned like it was his birthday!!
"Co-opting Christianity" YES YES. YES.😢
People naturally defend every aspect of a power structure that they thrive in, regardless of who gets hurt.
People are selfish and stupid.
They delude themselves into believing that their opinions are motivated by the good of the many, but, sublimated, is their simple self-interest.
Boiled down to bones . . . yes.
That's one wide paint brush you're using there pal!
Tribalism.
QUESTION: HOw many public schools in the USA still have the course CIVCS in their curriculum?
Yes, Civics is still in the curriculum and final must be passed to graduate HS.
@@loramt4104
That’s only true in about 40% of the states. Meaning 60% of states don’t have a specific requirement of civics to graduate from high school.
Looking at test scores for Math and English, I don't think any amount of teaching has succeeded "in learning civis". I guess, in some coastal cities only 5 to 15% understand civics, and American history.
From what I have heard for years that hardly any school teaches Civics and the reason for that was so the American people would not have any good understanding of government and those with the power could easily control the populace.
Too few
There is a terrifying prospect that Trump and his loonatics will take power. You poor souls. I hope sincerely that you are saved from this terrible fate. I felt a terrible foreboding a long time ago that Trump will win in 2024. It now looks a lot like that will happen. I really hope that there is good measure of sane Americans who will prevent this from happening. I am a terrified UK supporter of democracy. Vote 💙 and save America.
Trump has taken over the Republican Party....but Republicans are walking out of the House, and an increasing number of persons who supported him are realizing how fraudulent and dangerous person he is. I think there is going to be citizens marching to vote against him,....parades of people
Actually, I don't think he will win. He's never won the popular vote. He won the electoral (votes allowed per state), but lost the popular vote (individual votes), then as an incumbent president, which is usually an advantage when running again for president, he lost a huge amount of electoral votes and lost the popular vote again.
What we have is a very, very loud and much reported minority in this country, which does not actually represent the majority of Americans.
Should we and the world be concerned, YES!
Because it does appear that, that minority has a lot of money and power and loudness behind it!
What we need is more people actually voting to vote those louder than everyone else's voices out.
The angry and hateful tend to complain the loudest. Doesn't mean the majority feel or think like them.
Hopefully, because Trump showed us his ass, like I like to say, even more people will vote against him than did the last two elections. He'll need the electoral votes again to win. A lot of people that voted for him before didn't want him again and still don't. If they ever did, he would have won the popular vote.
He never has! It's the electoral college we have to worry about the most as it was those electors who got him in the first time!
Fascinating stuff! But what do we do about it?
It is not enough to merely point with alarm. We need you to talk about how we, your audience, can take practical steps to save our democracy.
I would suggest reaching out to get-out-the-vote groups and text bank, phone bank, reach out to old college friends and family to ensure they are activated and registered to vote. We can do more than watch videos!
Your absolutely right and we fight back with everything we have and it’s urgent that we keep these people out of political office and we have to put in the time and the money to support candidates that will work for the benefit of all people and weed these extremists out.
@@benniecrawford6876 yes! every day, each and every one of us can reach out to a potential voter across our great nation to make sure they are registered to vote and actually show up at every election. Our American oligarchs have their fingers in a lot of local elections which affect the national elections - we need to throw their puppets out of our state legislatures so they can't cancel our national election's fair results like they tried last time. We just won in Alabama last week so it can be done!
Sadly Trump followers are brainwashed and there's no reasoning with them. My brother is one of them . His church preaches TRUMPISM not God words.
The glare of the Gaslight is so so bright and blinding those blinded reach out to the nearest hand to save them which is the Gaslight.💫
Damn, I CAN'T WAIT to see this movie -- looks like it is saying the same thing I have felt since the 70s-80s when Oral Roberts and his whole crew started mixing their religious foll-de-roll up in their churches!! This is EXACTLY what this country needs to hear/see at this time, before the November elections, and I will do all I can to get as many people to it as I can. Unfortunately the people who REALLY need to get this message would not watch it as it might skew what their ideology has them doing, saying and voting for. It is supposed to have opened nation-wide this or last week, but not in the Midwest yet (probably is in Chicago). Please hurry up getting this to all theatres ... I think our country's democracy may depend on changing the course these Maga-otts are heading us toward!!!
It actually started with Jerry Falwell started the moral majority for political reasons.
Nationalism is a waste of time, since all Christians know and believe that Israel is destined to rule the world. "Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion" (Psalm 2:6, KJV). Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Establish the Kingdom of Peace in Jerusalem (Isaiah 9:7, KJV)!
Thank GodDess
for the
Seperation of
Church & State
in
America
🙏
so far . . .
The Christian Nationalists think the very idea of a Goddess, that the Divine might be feminine, is an "abomination" because they believe that women are inherently inferior, unclean, and evil unless held in check by a strong male authority figure.
And ironically, the women in this movement seem to feel just fine about this definition of themselves and agree that the very idea of a Goddess is "evil".
I disagree.
Great commentary, I choose democracy. 🇺🇸
This is a great expose as in Sri Lanka...the Sinhala Buddhist Nationalist agenda of a few discriminated against the minority Tamil-Hindus, Muslims and Christians ...that resulted in a horrific 30 year war that destroyed that beautiful nation ....we have so many lessons from the world on this zero sum playbook...which will only entrap the perpetrators...and everyone else...
😔Evil seems to be powerful everywhere
The golden rules appear in other religions and predate Christianity.
One can say it's a universal precept.
Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself.” Hinduism: “This is the sum of duty; do naught unto others what you would not have them do unto you.”
Jesus deliberately turned it to a positive commandment...stressing the sins of OMISSION...the failure to love, to understand, to offer to help.
@rcjdeanna5282
The secret "to do into others" (Duty) is to realize that one is not the doer, but the God Power is the doer agent.
Thereby avoiding the Karma associated with the action!
If only the simple statement 'do on to others you would they would do onto you' could mankind ever take this on board
I live in a very rural town in PA. Religion here has been perverted to push politics and not practice the teachings of Jesus. My wife and I thought about joining a church, but we just can’t. They’re all corrupted here.
It is, CINO, in name only. You don’t ram God down ppl’s throats. You love them to show them the face of God and God is pure love as written in scripture. This has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, His preaching and teaching. This is hate, fear, and suspicion and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
Self evident twaddle.
The “Christianity without Jesus” movement is a Biblical prophecy in the book of Revelation 📖 🙏🌊📜🇺🇸
Nick Lowe is the guy who wrote "What's So Funny About Peace, Love & Understanding?" by the way.
Dear God, does nobody remember the famous photo of Trump's shrine to Apollo complete with gold furniture in his 66th st, apartment? Are conservatives out of their mind?????
I appreciate this topic.
Regarding Jericho: "With their swords they killed men and women, young and old, as well as cattle, sheep, and donkeys." Joshua 6:21
It's sickening that so many of us were raised to think that was a good thing.
That was inserted to discredit the Israelites, who were a peace movement for 400 years until they took a
King. Much of the old testament is false. The rich owned the media back then also
Maybe but it's not true history
@@brucehare1548Tell that to the “TRUE BELIEVERS”🖤🇨🇦
Was that not the OT? If yes, it preceeded Jesus, which makes it part of that which he was updating.
Probation had closed for the people in Jericho, just like it is going to close on you and all inhabitants of this earth soon. Joshua24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Wow! Wish every American voter could see this! 💗🌊🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🌊💗
Will not matter !
Americans as COVID has shown have fully been Propagandized !
AGNOTOLOGY
is the study of deliberate, culturally induced ignorance or doubt, typically to sell a product, influence opinion, or win favour, particularly through the publication of inaccurate or misleading scientific data (disinformation).
I need to show my parents this. I hate the current state of our country.
Where can I watch the Documentary? Thanks
Hi there! Here's the doc site for more information - godandcountrythemovie.com/
closest showing is 3 hours away from me...
Remember, if you're not right you're wrong
It's worth noting in this Easter Season that Christian Nationalists/Evangelicals choose the modern Barabas.
Lord please vote blue & believe 💙
The BILLIONAIRES of the earth 🌍 i.e. Putin and Russian Oligarchs, American Oligarchs via Trump, and Israeli Oligarchs via Netanyahu, as well as billionaire Saudi Kings and Iranian Leaders are co-mingling with International Corporate power to rule the world. I think Putin’s recent extremism may break this club apart and do a lot of damage and shed a lot of blood 🩸🩸🩸🩸in the process. It’s a terrible time of shaking the nations and it’s hard to navigate the confusion.
Interesting that January 6,is also the Christian celebration of Epiphany in my protestant mainline church.
"Wherever God erects a house of prayer, the Devil always builds a chapel there. And 'twil be found, upon examination, that the latter has the larger congregation." -Daniel Defoe
Reiner and Partland, Thank you from the bottom of my heart......
It is not fair to group all Christians with these evangelical nuts. However, it is disappointing to see so few politicians of faith stand up for the principles of their faith. Mitt Romney set a good example but he did it when he knew he was leaving. Term limits are needed to help prevent these politicians put their constituents first and not their desperate desire to be reelected.
And you think that increasing the "churn", automatically increases the likelihood of better quality?!
Joe Biden has said that. So did Jimmy Carter and Obama. Without the fear in this teaching.
The big problem is is we don't need the book and we don't need religion to live a good life we've been brainwashed
EXACTLY, Rob! My own basic rule is JUST THAT:
Treat others the way you would like to be treated.
As you said, with THAT as your center, ALL OTHER RULES BECOME MOOT.
Does Trump follow any of the 10 Commandments?
Nope
In a backward mirror.
But it's not those that matter as much as the Sermon on the Mount that supersedes the 10 Commandments for Christians. The old covenant was proscriptive. The New one is prescriptive.
I highly doubt he can recite even half of them.
You shall not steal! Thou shall not commit fortification, thou , shall not lie. It’s probably that he understands that it imply him at all….at mere suggestions to others
Just saying he said the bill of rights which includes the 2A should be protected regardless of the majority opinion because it’s a check upon the government
But some people (NRA) think the second amendment supersedes all the other amendments
One has to look at the history of the Catholic Church at one time, before America, we were the "Christian Nationalists" and that is a reason why America chose the separation of church and state.
True. But that does not mean that the Catholic people are Nationalists as a whole in the modern world.
Thank you! Can't wait to watch God and Country
The original Constitution of the United States that was ratified in 1789 had only ONE REFERENCE TO RELIGION: [Article 6] No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States.
The de facto motto of the United States, adopted as part of the Great Seal of the U.S. by an Act of Congress in 1782, was E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One). Congress changed it 174 years later (1956) to "In God We Trust".
The ORIGINAL 'Pledge of Allegiance' was written in 1892 by Baptist Minister Francis Bellamy who DID NOT INCLUDE the words "Under God". Those were added by Congress 62 year later (1954).
The U.S. didn't issue Paper Currency until 1861, & 'In God We Trust' didn't appear on it for 96 years (1957).
“As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent."
"I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was part of the common law.” Thomas Jefferson
“Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.” James Madison
“The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
"In every country, in every age, the priest has always been hostile to liberty...He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own."
Thomas Jefferson
Founding Father Thomas Paine on Christianity. “The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race, have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion…”
You're cherry picking.
The Constitution was about the structure of government for one thing however the phrase
“in the year of our Lord” is in article 7 of the US Constitution.
First paragraph of the Declaration if Independence,
“The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
Beginning of the second paragraph of the US Declaration of Independence,
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Last paragraph of the US Declaration of Independence,
“We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved; and that as free and independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honour”
First the Declaration was a document meant for the audience of King George and his "state religion." So yeah, appealing to that sentiment was artful, but not legally binding.
The Constitution is THE document that for centuries now has been the underpinning of our legal system. SO for the "originalists," who love to presume the intentions of the Founders, their positions on legal matters are what, if you'll pardon the repetition, matters.
Remember the words of James Madison who famously said that "religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together". He believed that a "perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters" was the best approach. Heed those words, because that is what protects any one person's religious belief from exploitation if not suppression by their government.
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@@justaguy6100 Nothing you say refutes anything I said. You do what most of these secular worshippers do parse insignificant things and act like they said something profound. Your wanting to label people is typical of this group.
You, yourself, presume the intentions of the Founding Fathers while you scoff at others for doing it.
Their writings and religious beliefs are easy to find and don't reflect presuming anything.
You would have a hard time finding an atheist in America in those days.
All the Founding Fathers were Christians of various stripes. Some were Deists.
None of them would agree that religion has no place in the United States social structure or the government in general.
The Declaration is the Founding Document of the United States.-- Fact.
Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them----this phrase is a fact.
endowed by their Creator ---fact
Divine Providence,--fact
You heathens are evil people.
Believing in the goodness of a God is very different then believing in the ‘rightness’ of a Christian Religion.
@@mateateal3859 Another person attacking Christianity. If you attack one religion you attack them all. Christianity is based on the Old Testament which was the Jewish Bible, as well as the New Testament. To attack Christianity is to attack religion.
The great thing about following God, is He doesn't NEED our help to do anything. HE is well able to do whatever needs be done. We AS CHRISTIANS know that very well. These folks DON'T know God at all. They are Rob and Dan, pawns of the enemy and of truth.
God is not on their side, he's a respector of NO MAN
first, you need to prove that there is a god
God is a man/woman/flora/fauna/stars/planets/galaxies. How dare the fundamentalists put strict borders around such a being.
"Gott Mit Uns" (god with us) was on every Nazi belt buckle. If churches want to play politics, then it is time to tax them like the businesses they are.
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Why? What has that to do with the problem of Christian Nationalism? Russia forces the people to be poor and scared without 'God' to blame. By definition, communists are atheists. You fall into the trap of thinking religion is the root cause of evil. It is not. It seems that way because most people were involved in religion for most of written history.
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Thank you. These people do not know GOD because they believe they CAN know God in totality. The BIBLE itself repeatedly says that there is more to GOD than the physical WORD (the BIBLE).
I’ve heard of pastors and ministers being dismayed when they give a sermon on what Jesus said and their congregations were disgusted because what Jesus said sounds too liberal and peaceful. But if you ask the same congregants, I’m sure they’d say they love Jesus the best.
Hate and division was not what Jesus stood for. His love was for all groups. Not like this group of haters who divide and belittle any group they feel have different opinions or beliefs. Christian nationalists are a threat to our democracy. Jesus is looking down and I am sure he is thinking “they know not what they do”. When will we learn his teachings. Love, truth and justice. Separation of church and state is the foundation of our country.
Really?? Then why does he warn to HATE? (Luke 14 Verse 26)
Pride manifests itself... Please direct us to the verse that corroborates that assertion.
Many of us do not believe in gods and if the truth is that God does not really exist, then the United States is done, finished, fried, on it's way to failed state status.
@campfireaddict6417 the Greek word translated into English actually does not mean an adversarial emotion that we'd normally recognize as 'hate." used in this context. Rather it comes closer to the English word "despise". In this verse Jesus was telling people that in order to follow him they have to put God first even in priority above family.
@@bethanydee1920 Hate them. That is exactly what the verse says.
Trump w. a Bible is insane. Neither of the Trump's know anything about church. Don't know hymns or how to turn the pages to one, and stood like idiots when in a service.
How do you know? May we have one FACT please?
Watch the church service during Trump's inauguration...he and Melania too, were lost in it, eventually putting down their program and it's responses and hymns
and stood stupidly waiting for it to be over.Trump had to learn to put his hand
over his heart for the national anthem.
humping the flag came easier.@@heatherbeth4249
Trump can't even pronounce Yosemite. He's ignorant.@@heatherbeth4249
@@heatherbeth4249 Speech at Liberty University when Trump said "2 Corinthians", holding the bible upside down and backwards for a photo op, being unable to quote a favorite bible verse and giving the lame excuse of religion being so personal to him. Trump is a fraud.
lol! Isn’t it obvious
The most important skill that a decent school should teach, is the essence of skepticism. That isn't a matter of not believing anything, nor is it cynicism. It is merely asking for evidence, Especially when the proposition has "expensive" consequences.
There are nations that are not Christian, but practice christian principles more so than what we in America do.
Quote from Pg 35 of 'Introduction' to Melville's Moby Dick, stating what Coleridge, long ago, had observed of Milton: '' The character of Satan is pride and sensual indulgence, finding in self the sole motive of action. It is the (Satan) character so often seen in little on the political stage. It exhibits all the restlessness of temerity, and cunning which have marked the mighty hunters of mankind from Nimrod to Napoleon...'' Doesn't that sound like anyone we know?????!!!!! '''...the character ...is temerity, boldness, pride and sensual indulgence...'' and '...finding in self the SOLE MOTIVE OF ACTION'...'' . Donald Trump 'to a tea'.!!!!! When I read this, I immediately thought of D.T.'s Satanic character. The unconscious is so powerful.....and dangerous.
American Taliban.
Great Stuff. Extreme religious nationalism world wide whether christian moslem Jewish has perverted in the most violent ways the deeper tenets of faith and compassion. But then again, we must look much deeper into the economics of class and the deeper roots of poverty and inequality.
Thank you Rob Reiner! 💛
Jesus on separation of church and state: Render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s and unto God what is Gods.
fake..
This was a real eye opener! Living in a very red/evangelical rural area, I can attest to this meshing of extremist right politics, religious fervor, & hate for other.
@@godssara6758stop using peoples suffering to push your bs agenda. I work with addicts and the republicans could care less about helping them or anyone else’s in need of real healthcare.
@@godssara6758stop using the suffering of others to push your agenda. I work with addicts and I know where our funding comes from and it’s definitely not the Republican Party
@godssara. FYI. Fentanyl is made in China ! Immigrants are NOT bringing it over the southern border.
EXACTLY! “Under god”. This has been a concerted effort since AT LEAST the 50’s. I keep telling people that.
Living by the golden rule is critical to do!
Nick Lowe wrote the song.
Christianity teaches unquestioning servitude to an invisible god who is the only one who can fix you. You must admit you are nothing without him. If you try to leave him, he has torment prepared for you. He is angry and vengeful. Can we see how this religion prepares Americans to accept an authoritarian politician?
So untrue- read Bonhoeffer. Christianity teaches love and sacrifice and many Christians have paid with their lives for their conscience.
Sacrifice... Unaliving people. Is this what you are all accepting as ok?
I will not accept Christianity. I absolutely refuse. With my entire heart and soul!
@@phoenixtoash2396 not sure what you are saying by “ unaliving “. since but love does require sacrificing yourself for others - witness a mothers love for her child she sacrifices her sleep, her time and money for her child. And sometimes people do pay with their lives. A recent example - Alexei Navalny. And God is not vengeful and angry - just read the New Testament
@@phoenixtoash2396 remember Christian Nationalism is not - repeat not - Christian living or faith. Christian nationalism is really a political movement using Christianity as an enticement to prey on people’s fears and prejudices. See Greg Boyd a pastor who lost half his congregation when he spoke out about this type of nationalism.
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I disagree that if you live by the Golden Rule you do not need the 10 Commandments, but we clearly have a lot of sociopaths in this country. Their brains work differently and one they cannot empathize, so they could not follow the rules. They also have less experience of pain, so that would be another reason not to have them apply that rule.
The United States was founded on a division between “THEM” and “US”. Initially THEY were the European Monarchs, and Rulers, who often were prejudiced against any but the “common”religion shared by the Rulers, and majority of the people. Those whose religious practices were banned or punished for existing, left England initially, to come to a land where they could be free. England, and the Indigenous people constituted THEM until the War of Independence finally broke from England and formed the USA.
The next Them came from a division between the two political parties in the USA, and resulted in the American Civil War. After that war, both parties considered the other as “Them”, and devised a way to work together. They also still had other “Thems” in the recently emancipated Slaves, the Indigenous Peoples, the Irish immigrants, the Italian immigrants, and the German immigrants. They didn’t war on those immigrants, but denied them equal rights with themselves.
WWI broke out in Europe, and the new THEM became the Prussian Empire. America fought because their own economy was being adversely affected by the upheaval in Europe. That war was followed by a period of growth and prosperity, predominantly through industry and trade of resources. The interwar years were devastated by the Spanish flu, and the Great Depression. During that time, the wealthy became the new THEM for those who suffered the worst poverty.
WWII arrived, and the new THEM became Nazi Germany, the Japanese, and Mussolini’s Italy. America joined the allies after the bombing of Pearl Harbour by the Japanese. Prior to that it supplied the allies with food and munitions without entering the conflict directly. Having entered the war, they fought with the allies against the “Axis of Evil”. After the war, during which many prominent Americans grew very wealthy, NATO was formed as a world alliance to ensure there would never again be such a war.
The USSR became the new THEM, as Communists, and the Cold War was waged for many years. America lived in a constant state of fear, always prepared for the moment Russia made a move, building bigger and better nuclear arsenals until neither side dared move under threat of mutual destruction. Korea became the next THEM, with the fighting of a surrogate war between USA and USSR, the NATO allies supported the American military, and Korea was divided into North Communist, and South Democratic.
Next was Vietnam, another war against Communism, and the first war left without winning. Since then there have been numerous wars in the Middle East, and other wars fought through sanctions, trade, and foreign regime changes arranged by subterfuge. The USA has not had a significant THEM in a long time, and this had lead to the reopening of divisions between the two parties that still predominate in the country.
For the current Right conservative GOP Republicans (allied with the radical Christian Nationalists), the new THEM are Woke Left Socialist leaning Democrats, and the wave of immigrants and asylum seekers from war torn countries. For the Left liberal Democrats, the new THEM is the radicalized Trump GOP and it’s powerful Christian Nationalists supported by the NRA. In the absence of a significant THEM from outside the country, the USA is once again divided by different ideologies within the country.
This is a little simplified, but covers the main points. Having been born from a THEM and US dichotomy, the USA is not capable of functioning for any appreciable length of time without a THEM to blame for its troubles, and to fight against for a victory.🖤🇨🇦
Us and Them is the basis of racism
@@lauracarstiou3505 That it is, sadly.🖤🇨🇦
Fear and anger has worked for Fox. Roger Ailes' playbook.
yeah like reddit, cnn, msnbc, vice, facebook dont spread fear and anger like crazy, clown.
Excellent. Thank you,Folks.⭐🌹⭐
When we see the the degrading of our moral fiber you begin to understand how important it is for schools, parents and and communities to teach the real history of this country and what the forefathe intended this country to be.
Our forefathers envisioned a nation built on the principles of liberty, equality, and the pursuit of happiness. They aimed to establish a government that protected the unalienable rights of its citizens, as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, including "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as fundamental human rights.
They also created a system of checks and balances between the legislative, executive, and judicial branches to ensure that power was divided and to safeguard the freedom of the people. This design was intentional to prevent any one branch from becoming too powerful and to keep the government accountable to the citizens.
Our forefathers imagined America as a place where individuals could live freely, practice their faith, and pursue their dreams without government interference. They believed the government's role was to protect its citizens and ensure their well-being, rather than to control how they lived their lives.
It's important to recognize that our forefathers were not perfect, and their vision had flaws. However, their goal was to create a nation that would stand as a beacon of freedom and democracy for the world.
One significant obstacle to the country's progress is white nationalism. After the Civil War, the government pardoned all the traitors, allowing them to perpetuate their white nationalist views. One of the most influential movements that emerged from this was the "Lost Cause." Few Americans are aware of this history, yet our country continues to be shaped by these radical extremists who claim this country as their own while fearing the prospect of becoming a minority.
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Can they make a movie about Christian Nationalism?
LMAO
Very interesting interview, Laura! Thanks for interviewing Rob and Dan. I’m looking forward to watching the documentary.
Thanks for watching!
Wow! Thank you
Gos bless you for this insightful discussion. I am a Christian and I am horrified to what is taking place in our country.
Well worth a listen! Thank-you
#FilmReview
The Golden Rule is the basis for most religions of the world. It may have a little different wording but it’s the same idea
There is a big difference between someone professing Christianity and someone practicing Christianity.
I'm hoping to see this on a large screen to share with the public
God granted us free will. Authoritarianism goes against all faiths.
false....fascism is an integral part of religion.
It goes against people period.
Make America great again is trump's siren song. He's singing to people who are desperate for the simplicity of the past. A world they can control. He's promising that if he's elected that he'll give them a world from a past they remember as good, less frightening, comfortable. They're desperate enough to follow him even though he's said he'll be a dictator and worse.
These are predominately your cultists. You'll notice a lot of them are older, not tech savvy or in rhythm with a world that's barred them from it's community. They still have a strong fear about Russia and can still be persuaded to sanity if you can get them to see the trump/Russia connection. And they are angry! They're afraid of the world they are living in, which creates anger which trump utilizes to make them afraid, which generates more anger... you can see where this goes.
For trump, it looks like: Be afraid of the left, they're going to create communism in America and at the same time promising them he'll be a dictator. Continue this to absolute freezing fear and the promise of relief, "If you follow me."
This phenomenon is worldwide, not just in America.
⁸We have got to find a way to help these people, to show them what the dystopian world which is trump looks like. Though they're presently unable to believe that can happen if they follow trump. We must bring them back from the hysteria, which is maga.
😂 Your depiction of us is wrong. And that’s why, you’re going to lose. We are the people…
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Ginning up fear and anger is in every business - it is called “exposing the client’s pain point.” Wow, pretty scary
I quit going to church when they told me how to vote. TAX THE CHURCHES
These people ARE taking this country back; WAAAAAY back 🤬🤬🤬.
Taking it back to secure borders, deporting illegals, locking up criminals, no new wars were started, cheap gasoline and groceries, taking it back to lower unemployment rate and taking it back to America First. We have plenty of problems of our own. Funding the war in Ukraine that they will lose within 2 years anyway is completely immoral. Voting for biden is voting against the working class people in the USA.
"What's So Funny 'Bout Peace Love and Understanding" is a Nick Lowe song, originally recorded by his band Brinsley Schwarz . Elvis Costello did a great cover, but it's Nick's question. ;)
Religion is in a negative spotlight more today than ever before because they have gone political. Not long ago it was considered unseemly to openly question religion; but once it became political, it became fair game. Freedom of religion was a sacred right of every American, but once Evangelicals tried to force their religious dogma into law to coerce everyone to live accordingly, that got people's dander up. They began to openly challenge religion and question its grounds to make such demands. Christianity's greatest weakness is that once people begin to question it, it unravels like a knitted sweater. The next thing you know, people are questioning god's existence.
A woman said to me and l quote I used to be Catholic, now I'm a Christian. !!
Also in a focus group a woman said, and l quote,
You can't be a Democrat and be a Christian.
That last one sounds like complete brain washing with fear. She's reciting someone else's words. That is appalling.
You can’t be a Christian and be a Maga
I refuse to be Christian. Sorry people I don't believe in religion.
Illogical on both counts.
The Catholic Church has even bought into Christian Nationalism!