Terrible Answers To Atheist Arguments
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- I feel for this guy... he spent AGES going through the internet to find 40 arguments that atheists use... and I'm not sure he had ANY. So here are some things a theist thinks an atheist says when confronting an atheist. Oh... and I call him boomer by mistake... what an idiot.
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Seeing him portray himself as the chad and the atheist as a wojack is just pretentious and arrogant. Smh
This guy still has the nerve to use “Reddit Atheists (TM)” as an insult while doing this.
To make it worse the wojak just stays smug, even the atheist wojack he made up isn't impressed by his arguments.
Everyone thinks they are on the correct side, unless they are just plagued with self doubt in which case the debate floor is not where they belong.
@@krofgninut5984 "The debate floor" is useless anyway. Nobody has ever derived the truth there. "Winning" debate is just a popularity contest.
@@jursamaj the purpose of debate is not to persuade your interlocutor, but to persuade the audience.
I love how several of his "refutations" are just basically just him saying "Nuh uh!"
"The bible doesnt condone slavery"
It literally does, and encourages it. It even directly states that if you are a slave, you should simply do whatever your owner says because if God didnt want you to be a slave, you wouldnt be one
Bible literally has an owner's manual for slaves.
Don't let your facts get in the way of his fee fees!
Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he actually has read the bible, it is highly likely he’s just lying for Jesus. Apparently it’s a Christian requirement since it’s so prevalent amongst the cult members.
The Bible says that you are a slave to death. If as an atheist you are not a slave to death, then please don't "condone" death by dying.
@@timothykeith1367 you might wanna read Exodus 21. Quite literally lays out the laws for how to treat your slaves. There are other places in the bible telling you to take slaves from the heathens that surround you. In another it says slaves obey your masters even the cruel ones.
If you read the bible it makes it pretty clear that it condones slavery, no sarcastic quote marks needed
Top 5 Atheist Arguments!
1: Your claims aren’t convincing.
2: Your arguments aren’t convincing.
3: Your stories aren’t convincing.
4: Your threats aren’t convincing.
5: Your books aren’t convincing.
More:
1/ What you said isn't actually evidence that I am wrong.
2/ See 1/
I'd sum it all up with a "You are not convincing." - whether you quote the bible, make threats, or throw around baseless claims.
It's not your religion that has failed to convince me God is real. It's just you.
@@LadyDoomsingerIn his defense, he's not smart enough to have his own thoughts and arguments; he's regurgitating what he's been told by the priest class. So it is his religion that isn't convincing as that is the source of his non-argument nay-saying.
@@pigpuke Even when you quote someone else, they are still your words coming out of your mouth - you are choosing what to quote, how to quote it, and how to interpret the quote. So it is still his failure to convince me, even if it is not his own words he uses.
@@LadyDoomsinger I agree it's his failure to convince you; I'm saying that he isn't using his own arguments though. Anyway, my comment wasn't meant to be argumentative, just a light hearted dig at a dumb theist.
It’s fascinating.
The guy only presented strawman versions of atheistic arguments… but still managed to give really terrible responses that make him look bad.😂
I wonder. Is this Almondo trying to get back into the game?
@@MrCanis4This guy was condescending, but not that condescending. I doubt Almondo has the self control to limit himself in that way.
Funny, this video strikes me as a low effort strawman.
Maybe he's secretly against Christianity, and it's intentionally trying to make it look at stupid at possible?
As a subscribe to redeemed zoomer it may or may not be ragebait.
Redeemed Zoomer's version of an atheist was last seen accompanying a woodsman, a lion, and a woman from Kansas.
Yes, good boy Toto.
And her little dog, too ! He he he.
Toto hiked his leg on Scarecrow. I was there with 500 other eye witnesses.
Yes! I saw him clutching at straws, back at the start of the yellow brick road.
@@skepticusmaximus184 Perhaps god represents the Lollipop Guild.
I love "the church has answers", always make me giggle, especially when omitting which church.
“I have questions.”
“I know someone who knows the answer to each question.”
“Thanks. My questions are all answered now.”
@@jojidubi4😂😂😂
"The Church" has answers. They don't make a lot of sense but they do have them.
"The church has answers." Yes, but none of them are the _correct_ answer and my own fantasies are way cooler.
Well, fascism has answers too. They even come with very practical "solutions", very final ones even. And it's still very popular. Apparently, people like having answers regardless if they're correct answers.
the whole "answer" to the atheist's "arguments"is just:
"I made myself the chad which makes me right, see? SEE?"
🤣
That makes me think of Lord Farquad from _Shrek_ and his ranting at the end of the movie: "This marriage is binding, (puts on the crown) and that makes me king! See, see!"
Faith is not the same as trust. Trust comes for knowledge and experience, faith is mere belief.
True, trust is something that needs to be earn.
Like how Evil is the absence of Good and Dark is the absence of Light, Faith is the absence of Thought.
Now, I'm not saying people with "faith" can't think; only that their faith is based on not thinking.
@@LadyDoomsinger well, my only nitpick is the "evil is the absence of good" cuz there are amoral things like dropping a pen or writing on a piece of paper the word "butter". it has no good nor evil in those actions
@@eh9618 I was working within the framework of what was proposed in the video, in which he stated that evil is the absence of good.
If you're asking for my personal opinion on the matter, I don't believe in either good or evil being real - there are just people, with different perspectives, doing what they think is right.
(Edit:) Although now that I think about it, if you'll allow me to be philosophical about it, there is something to be said for "the failure to do good, being an act of evil in itself" 🤔 By that logic writing the word "butter" or dropping a pen *would* be an absence of good, and therefore evil, because that is time and energy you could've spent doing something good but didn't.... Hmm... I'm gonna spend a lot of restless nights ruminating on this one...
@@LadyDoomsinger My issue with the "Evil is the absence of good" argument is that good people can do bad things and vice versa, its almost never so cut and dry.
Yep I grew up in a church house but then when I joined the military and I got to travel the world I saw people believe in all types of things and that began my journey towards atheism among other things.
How did i not know these "rebuttals"...I'm just so damn stupid. - A theist
do you mean an atheist or a theist
A low-key Almondo riff. Nice.
I like how he defined his god out of existence.
13:30 Just as evil is the lack of good, apologetic is the name we have given to lack of reason.
and lies, don't forget those.
It's funny he defines evil that way, as that means he thinks neutrality is just evil. If you just go about your life, surviving & not bothering anyone, but also not helping anyone out of altruism, you'd be evil by his definition.
Most animals, including dogs, are evil by his logic.
Of course, he weirdly defines good as "being in accordance with God's nature," so genocide, torture, arbitrary punishments, sexual assault, and mass murder are all apparently good to him. Yikes.
The whole point of the "if you were born in India, you'd probably be a Hindu" argument is not just that our geography shapes us.
The point is that the person's religous beliefs are influenced by geography but *barely (if at all) by any actual reasoning* and certainly not by one unified source from a omnipotent omniscient supernatural being.
That's a bad argument. You might as well say that you should not eat Thai food because you were born in the U.S.
@@timothykeith1367What are you even responding to?
@@timothykeith1367 No, it's more like saying that Thai people tend to eat more Thai food, but that's because it's just the norm there, and not because of some deliberate culinary choice.
If anything that argument should debunk the christian god completely. If god is the one and only god, and he is so jealous, why is there a majority of people believing in other deities, or none at all?
@@ertymexx Answer to that is usually "free will", whatever that is.
Wow, the whiplash from the "prosperous countries are atheist" section left my head spinning.
Guy says "correlation doesn't equal causation," then in the next breath draws a direct causal link based on correlation.
Astounding.
("Just because atheist countries are prosperous, doesn't mean they are prosperous because of atheism. They used to be christian, so they are prosperous because they used to be christian.")
And forgot about the “used to” part. Meaning they used to be bad but now they are better because they stopped being religious
He also ignores the fact that they got better after becoming more secular. I guess he thinks Uganda is a thriving utopia or something. Probably believes that the Crusades were about Christians "defending themselves" like PragerU claims, too.
The Middle Ages were religious but poor. The countries like Germany or Norway were religious in the 1200s..........................................and poor.
"So, if God and Reality are exactly the way I say they are, all my arguments are correct! Gotcha!"
"I made you the bad wojak, that means I'm right."
You can trust me. I am, after all, depicting myself as a Chad.
@VersusMe 101 I like your profile pic
Where is it from
I don't know that meme. Is the "chad" supposed to be the "cool" guy in the scenario? Because all I see is a thoughtful, humble guy asking questions, and a bearded alpha-male wannabe dismissing any arguments or discussion on the topic.
@@kyrathedragonshark5455 it's an art commission I purchased of my original character.
@@LadyDoomsinger tbh, you've got the jist of it in this case.
Wow! I hope this guy has a lot of aloe vera cream handy because he’s been utterly roasted by so many channels already. 😂
Yeah those arguments overall aren't exactly first-rate. And still he manages to fail. Bottom of the barrel apologetics.
Is there really any other kind?
It's amazing how many times his rebuttal was "okay, yes, this argument is true, but it's also still wrong somehow."
@@snooganslestat2030 Some scholars are rather top of the barrel but they also doesn't spend their time whit apologetics so eh
It's not even bottom of the barrel.
He moved the barrel, dug about 5 feet down, then put the barrel back.
@@snooganslestat2030 Apologetics is a barrel, it's just that barrel is at the bottom of a stack dumb ideas barrels in the sub basement of thought experiments to actually consider.
14:15 Wait... Isn't that... the plot of The Incredibles? Syndrome making a big bad evil killing machine so he can come at the last moment and save the day and be glorified? Does that mean that according to that guy.... Syndrome is THE good duy of the movie?
Yes, it is true that if i, as an atheist, was born in a different place I may have been of a different religion, but this is not a problem for atheism as it is exactly what we would expect in a world with no real God. This is only a problem for religions which claim that their all powerful God exists everywhere and wants a relationship with everyone, and with people who claim that they are communicating with this being and receiving true information from it. Is such a being existed, we would expect to find it absolutely everywhere in every culture throughout history, and that belief in it or disbelief in it would not be a geographically dictated. Again, this is exactly what we would expect with atheism being true.
You may enjoy the following quote from AaronRa
“If there really was one true god, it should be a singular composite of every religion’s gods, an uber-galactic super-genius, and the ultimate entity of the entire cosmos. If a being of that magnitude ever wrote a book, then there would only be one such document; one book of God. It would be dominant everywhere in the world with no predecessors or parallels or alternatives in any language, because mere human authors couldn’t possibly compete with it. And you wouldn’t need faith to believe it, because it would be consistent with all evidence and demonstrably true, revealing profound morality and wisdom far beyond contemporary human capacity. It would invariably inspire a unity of common belief for every reader. If God wrote it, we could expect no less. But what we see instead is the very opposite of that.”
- AaronRa
@@adrianthom2073 AaronRa is such a badass,
@@link7417 AaronRa is such a badass,
It is actually Aron Ra two words only one A in each.
He is a guy I wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley or on the other side in a debate.
@@Scanner9631 , he does look like a Warlock
@@adrianthom2073
I'd love to meet him OUTSIDE those two things.
My favorite part was "just because the gospels are anonymous, doesn't mean we don't know who wrote them"
Like, what bro? That's EXACTLY what that means. 😂
I heard the Hitler part as the belts saying 'got mittens'. 🤣
I am 100% sure there was a small, now-defunct, winter clothing company where the CEO had a "brilliant" idea around the time "Got Milk?" was huge. And didn't do the basic test of "show the idea to anyone else". :-D
"I wonder why there's so many fascists buying our winter hand accessories..."
The comment about how we can assume animals will be compensated for suffering after they die is a direct admission of guilt. Compensating for a crime after the fact does not excuse the fact; especially not when the person performing the act could have done things such that the crime never occurred in the first place. God offering compensation for suffering after the fact is an admission that he knows that the suffering is wrong, but doesn't do anything about it, and more than that, specifically made the world to include it when he could have made it such that the suffering didn't happen. That's rather horrible in my eyes.
i love all these "athiest arguments" focused on the bible..........no one cares about what their novel says
I think alot of people care because thats all yall talk about
No no I see where you've got confused.@@TheRareOcelot you guys keep bringing up the bible and trying to act like it is proof but we keep telling you "the bible is not the proof it is the claim" but all you hear is "hm bible hm hm hm hm hm hm hm hm" other than that the only time the bible gets brought up is when a theist makes a claim that the bible clearly refutesand the atheist has to educate the theist on what it says in their own holy text. Which is kind of embarrassing for your lot so I'm not sure why you want to bring that to the light of the public eye.
@@TheRareOcelotBecause theists keep beating us over the head with it - and when we point out that we don't believe anything it says, they act all surprised and confused for some reason?
@TheRareOcelot it's presented as if it were any kind of evidence so of course it's being adressed.
"Badly written stone age fiction" ;)
Damn, this guy’s video has burned through the athetubers like a bad case of the clap.
As opposed to a good case of the clap?
@@barth9580
HAHAHA 😂😂
@@barth9580
This deserves a...
round of applause.
where else did you see it? i saw it on Prof Plink and Mindshift so far, anyone else that had a crack at this?
That explains the burnig . . .
Isn’t it strange that only religious people get “possessed by demons”?
Yeah, while the rest of us just get mundane, treatable psychiatric conditions that can actually be reliably treated with medication and therapy.
In their view it should be strange but in the real world it's an expected phenomenon where it's all made up just like their god, it's a scam with religious actors.
Everyone can be possessed
If you were Satan, and want to cause the most damage, who would you choose to attack?
@@csar07.
Lol, what Copium. 🤷♂️
Plenty of these possessions are just psychological issues and those that weren't were found to have been staged with an actor from the same denomination, same as with fake faith healing. I know it's redundant saying both fake and faith after another as it's like saying fake fake healing lol.
Also if you're going to attempt logic then understand those logically more receptive and likely to be easier to possess are atheists, Wiccans, new age and any other religious faith outside the Abrahamic religion that monetized possessions lol.
But it's Not what we see in reality, and when the religious possessions are researched, alot of fibbing in paperwork has been found, including in the supposed victim as the exorcism itself, like those Ghost hunter series on TV.
And when there's been psychological problems where the victim were abused to death by the exorcism they've been eager to try and hide it ever happening. Strange to hide it if it was true and a actually demon killed them, not actually Strange if the people involved know it's not real but it's an effective cash grab both from easily primed parents of the subject aswell as scaring up extra tithing from the church goers. 💁♂️
This is all facts you'll find rather easily if you actually look into this instead of defending it out of hand, letting your faith do all the heavy lifting in place of your reasoning.
Good day.
Thank you for pointing out that explicit endorsements of slavery exist in both "halves" (so to speak) of the Christian bible!! I see so many people ignore the fact that it's explicitly endorsed in the New Testament, too.
Not just endoresed. There is a whole tutorial on how to do it.
Who cares? How does this disprove the Bible? All you are doing is showing that slavery is not a sin. I have known that since the first time I read the Bible.
@@jbutero1 There is nothing to disprove in Bible as it doesn't prove anything.
This just shows it is a terrible book that shouldn't be followed.
@@Nerazmus I am saying it is a wonderful book that should be followed. My position is that the world is screwed up because we don't follow the Bible.
I do want to say one thing about slavery. While it is true that the Bible allows and condones it, the Bible doesn't tell nations they must allow it. Israel was set up where the law of Moses was the supreme law of the land. This was also at a time before the cross so some things in the law don't apply to us. There were temporary things in place to take us to the New Covenant.
@@jbutero1Where in the Bible does it say that certain rules don't apply to you? Which rules no longer apply? Jesus explicitly said that he had not come to change the law, and he certainly did not say that the slavery regulations had changed.
The church having all the answers isn't the flex this guy thinks it is.
It is difficult to have the RIGHT answers when you won't listen to the question.
To be fair, watching the Mental Gymnastics Olympics is quite impressive. I never would've imagined a brain could bend and twist so much.
Especially when there's this whole thing about biblical scholars where they straight up say they can't tell people things because it could make them question their faith. Such as how it's obvious that some if not all of, i think it was paul's letters, i can't remember off the top of my head, were written by different people and most likely forgeries. Or that the chapters were put in some locations specifically to reset you so you read it differently (once again, so sorry i can't remember exact details, but it was something about a poor woman and how the chapter split changes it from "you're so poor you shouldn't have to give to the church" to "even the poor should still give to the church")
I don't have anything i can direct to at the moment for the second, but for the first, i can guide you to the "satan's guide to the bible" video on yt that i saw somewhat recently that showed direct clips of people who did extra studies for their religion and now need to keep secrets to keep others in the faith.
@@catelynh1020 for me, reading the Bible and realizing it gets the answers to basic historical questions wrong was enough to start me on the road to atheism.
Theists can end all 'atheist arguments' with just one step. All they need to do is demonstrate that their god exists. That's it. I wonder why none of them has managed to do that yet? 🤔
Honestly, if an omnipotent, omniscient being wants something from me, they can damn well come over and tell me themself. If they need an interlocutor that i have little reason to believe was actually sent by them, that means they lack at least one of those attributes.
@@Llortnerof
Also omnipresent. Voyeur bastard.
@@Llortnerof Granted, even if some magical, mystical, mysterious cosmic entity was to appear before me and go "I am God. Worship me!" I'd probably remain skeptical.
Terrified, sure, but skeptical all the same. How do I know it's telling the truth? Could be a demon. Could be a guy doing a convincing magic act. Could be I've gone crazy.
@@LadyDoomsinger ... or it could be "Ardra" in her specially equipped, cloaked starship concealed while in a geosynchronous orbit overhead.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
@@zenkim6709
Was gonna say that there was a Star Trek episode that did that scenario... and yeah, I'd be sure that anyone claiming to be God or whatever is just doing an Ardra to get something out of me and/or society.
More than half of his arguments could be dismissed with citation needed, and the rest are either irrelevant to atheism or countered by physical evidence.
I just watched Zoomer's video about that a couple days ago. The commenters did not seem too happy....
(By the way, you've got a subscriber. This video was great :D )
I appreciate it! Welcome
@@TheSkepTick I'm glad to be here! As someone who's only a teenager with doubts, you explain things clear, quick, and well. Unrelated but I also like the way you talk, it's very comical and engaging 👍
Taking atheist counter-arguments out of context, then strawmanning them, and STILL losing is crazy. Imagine paying off the refs and still losing the game.
13:08 he seems to think that evil isn't a substance, which, great, yes. But apparently good IS a substance?
I would like to know what it looks like, where it can be found and the physical properties of it. I'm curious myself
It comes in blocks with "Chocolate" written on the packaging.
US troops in Iraq painted “New Testament” on their tank. Whether religion is used to make wars means little since religion is primarily used to make soldiers.
Honestly him saying that "If you were born somewhere else you wouldnt be an Athiest" isnt a rebuttle but agreeing with the premise that our beliefs are shaped by our environments.
I believe the purpose of that response was to show how fallacious the original claim is. Simply because you are born in a Christian country and are Christian doesn't prove that Christianity is false, that is a ridiculous claim. The SkepTick tries to disprove the argument when he says he grew up in the Bible Belt and became Atheist, what about Atheists that convert to Christianity? I don't think his response was an adequate rebuttal.
@@noahwells8399 I see no evidence that any gods exist in any of it really. It's not new that people tend to share the beliefs of the group they grow up with. Though access to information changes it as we have access to more influences. The original argument is good since it shows you only believe cause you were taught to believe.
Point is, when someone says you are shaped by your environment, that's evidence that the beliefs are based on tradition or custom instead of logic. It could be true, but we need to apply logic and science to confirm that. The only time to believe something is when you have evidence for it.
@@PrideOfFantasy100 I understand your point of view, but you must remember what the limits of science are. I'm sure you believe in logical reasoning, can science prove logic? Is there a test tube I can find logic in? A peer reviewed study? A mathematical proof? Obviously not. The manner of proof changes depending on what you want to evaluate, science cannot prove God the same way it cannot prove logic. The evidence required to make a decision changes based on what we are evaluating.
@@noahwells8399 Better to focus on what we can know with reasonable proof than believe in a story with no proof. Ain't about science being the end all be all. It's about it proving to be reliable time and time again while God claims have not been reliable or steady.
Simple as that. Sure. We don't know everything. And we probably won't know everything. But 'I don't know' is a fine and respectable answer. It's not a shame to lack knowledge. What is a shame is to posit an explanation that has no evidence to support it or, at best, flimsy evidence.
You're welcome to believe what you will, of course, but I'm not convinced you know what you're talking about. Science proving logic? Science is just the process of determining reliable results and a method to discover what's most likely to be true. Logic is not really all that different. In fact, you could say they are synonymous.
I'm not saying any of this with malice, but you have to understand that you're not convincing me of anything. Science is a process that's proven reliable time and time again. Until you come up with a better process, it's the best we got.
@@noahwells8399 Logic is a science, my dude. We use it in tandem with other sciences in order to gather information and form educated opinions on what's most likely true.
A lot of his "atheist arguments" are really atheist responses to Christian arguments. But he responds to them without including the Christian arguments that they're responding to, so he takes them completely out of context.
And several of them are things I think he just made up.
@@solosynapse Not necessarily made up but vastly oversimplified to the point of straw-manning. I think that, like most theists, he probably didn't understand the arguments being made so had to reduce them to their simplest form.
@@jamesavis1 “Your argument? Gone, reduced to atoms.”
The religious apologist fails to convince, as usual, they have nothing to demonstrate their god, zero. Non-belief is justified! Excellent work here SkepTick! 👏
"Triumph over evil is a greater good than evil having just never existed".
That's like saying that having to deal with and clean up a massive oil spill is *better* than if the oil spill never happened in the first place. 🤨🤔🤷♂
"We caught the guy who tortured and executed your family. Isn't our bringing him to justice better than if he'd never done that to your family in the first place?"
Let's not forget that he basically said this "God" created a problem just so He could get praised for fixing it.
Doesn't sound like a being worth of worship to me. Quite the opposite.
All praise the Exxon Valdez
@@Llortnerof Holy m@sturbation
That’s a much bigger scale than the idea I had of the firefighter arsonist.
I love how the first one is "Religion causes wars" and his response is "Only 7% of wars are caused by religion". There you go. Religion causes wars. He agrees. The argument isn't *all* or *most* wars. It's just "Religion causes wars" and he says it does. Off to a flying start there refuting atheists, not that this is an argument I ever use.
I wouldn't even trust him on the 7% thing either, considering Church and State were practically the same thing for most place for most of history.
@@jamesavis1 I don't. I'm just using his own words against him.
@@philb4462 sure, I was just adding to the point
I have had a NDE, by the way. What did I experience? A tunnel of light and a Cheezus guy greeting me??? NO, far from it x BLACKNESS, NOTHING, EMPTINESS!!! And when I woke up I started throwing up like a bulimic slug. Thanks a lot, cheezus for that experience … 🤢
I've several times been in situation with death imminent. I never called out to any God. I saved myself.
I've seen a group of Christians totally lose it when a pilot and copilot in a crashing plane spent those last seconds calling on god which resulted in everyone dying. They didn't like it when I pointed out that they just did what these Christians always claimed EVERYONE does when facing death. There problem was it wasn't their god of course. (Actually it was but they called him Allah).
Been there done that, you don’t know what nothing is until you been there!
This is one of those videos were every time that guy connected two words together my brain started to hurt. His arguments were incoherent nonsense with a cascade of assumptions and errors behind everything he said that would take hours to fully unpack. His straw men were built by straw men who were built by straw men. Even when he was tearing one of them down you could see the unending trail of hay behind them without end.
Praise be to Lisa the rainbow Giraffe. Lisa has never endorsed a religious war, except eating other gods.
Leaf Be Upon Her
@@robertl4824 More Hen.
@@vpheonix More hen
@@vpheonix moorhen, actually
@@robertl4824 Thanks for the correction.
Funny these weirdos never seem to realize that atheism doesn't offer any arguments. The only "argument" an atheist makes goes as follows:
Oh yeah? Prove it.
I thought it was “I don’t give a toss!”🤔
They're either being dishonest or ignorant about what atheism is (willfully ignorant as they could find out).
Whenever a theist misrepresents atheism in this manner I automatically disregard whatever else they say.
@@snooganslestat2030 .
Ignorance, they are so indoctrinated they cannot imagine what life without their belief would be like.
@@Soundbrigade sounds pretty accurate. I'm so far removed from caring even a bit about any deity or religion that on the rare occasion a religionist comes 'a preachin, it's just noise.
Personally I identify more as a nihilist or misotheist than atheist: It doesn't matter to me whether a god or gods exist or not, I reject the authority of a cosmic overlord altogether, whether it is real or an excuse used by people in power to maintain power.
Wow this guy had the most simple answers with no real honest logic behind them. Faith has much work left to do.
I gotta admit the “outside the natural world” thing was a very good point for their side. Very good point for why science hasn’t proven God. But as Skep said… yeah, then you don’t _know_ God’s there.
If science can't prove god because he's outside the natural world and can't be observed or measured then NO ONE has a justification for their belief.
Not good for a God that is supposed to be omnipresent.
@@jamesavis1 very true, very true
@@SoraQuill Hilarious that in order to defend their God, they have to diminsh him
@@jamesavis1 X’D again, very true!
I wonder if it's even possible to be a creationist without being a narcissist.
Certainly not without being stupid.
Nope
"Well then the sun must be a god because we all still use wheels!" LOL, touche!
George Carlin was right. We should all be Sun worshipers!
As you can see young SkepTick, I have depicted you as the soyjack and myself as the chad. You, and your rebel friends, have already lost.
Yeah, theists will NEVER win!
This guy's "arguments against athiests" is like a toddler with Bozo Bop Bag. Even when he think's he's landed a blow, he hasn't hasn't and he'll never knock his opponent down.
This guy has been making the rounds in debunking circles. The best way to sum this guy up is “Stop agreeing with me you idiot.” Like he just explains why they’re a problem without solving it.
Dude assumes that just because a country has a Christian history, it was responsible for its prosperity, but itbis just as likely that it was shedding that Christianity that lead them to focus on things that made them more prosperous
Not to mention the historical prosperity of other countries with other religions
This one is doing the rounds with Atheist channels. And it does show how theists do not understand what Atheism is. It also shows their very weak standard for 'evidence'. It just boils down to "god exists because they say so".
"Why did God let evil exist at all? Because he's glorified in defeating it."
So God is like Syndrome from The Incredibles.
Thing is though, Syndrome does say that once he's had his fun, he'll sell his inventions so everyone can be a superhero.
God doesn't seem to have any plans like that. He just wants to remain the only one out there :D
Why "the church invented modern science" would prove that god exists?
Professor Plink and Mindshift did a video on their channels about this. Although Plink did a 2 parter
As an athiest, even I can easily debunk those arguments. He not only failed at giving athiest arguments, but failed at debunking them.
Paul's Damascus road experience was a dream. I had a dream recently with my dead brother in it. Neither is proof for the supernatural.
9:55 uses phrase “correlation doesn’t equal causation” then immediately asserts a causation
Thanks!
11:20 "Modern science" is based on the rediscovery of Greek texts (often through Arabic translations) in the 13th and 14th centuries. This guy has never heard of the Renaissance. The reason that early Western European scientists were Christian is that they had been raised in the Christian west. (Incidentally ignoring such Muslim scientists such as Alhazen, Ibn Battuta and Omar Khayyam)
And, if they were even slightly doubtful, they kept silent due to the fact that heresy and apostasy were punishable by horrific, torturous death (as Giordano Bruno found out).
This dude clearly doesn't know what science is and also he's never gone through the Taco Bell drive thru at 3AM if he thinks faith can protect you from food poisoning.
Good on the guy from the video for making le evil atheist the soyjacks and le epic christian the chad, I wouldn't have figured which side of the debate he's in otherwise
Love, love, love, your voice, content & presentation
I appreciate that!!
15:54 Didnt know we switched to Warhammer 40K lore, but okay
He claims evil is just the absence of good. Hmm.. is a rock just sitting on the ground good? If there's no reason to call the rock good because it just doesn't do anything, is it therefore evil?
Don't try and make sense out of religious 🐂💩.
It caused me to stub my toe. EVIL!
Congrats, Tick: you found someone who says they've never actually had a conversation with an atheist without saying they've never actually had a conversation with an atheist. 😏
Also, just an fyi, there's a non-zero chance of Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe (Leaf be upon Her) finding her way into my D&D campaign... 😏
I’m good with that!
Richard Dawkins also used the "one god further" line as a half joke.
Gotta say Skep i do appreciate that you only go after those who sling bullshit around at other people. That you dont like… do a video on a church’s thanksgiving message or some shit, that would be horrible. You only defend your stance and the stances of those you agree with rather than going out and attacking. You’re good man.
Best argument was the stories being copied from various other sources which happens to be VERY common. Yet the response was “lol reddit. Atheist scholars think thats silly” no! Nobody thinks thats silly! Nobody with half a brain looks at that goes “nah, not possible.”
Little red riding is believed to have been told by word of mouth in some form or another for at least two thousand years or so before the brothers grimm wrote it down! (Dont quote me on the years i def dont know the exact figure rn)
That. Was. Incredible.
I need to find that crazy guy's video 'debunking' atheist arguments to read (and contribute to) the comments 😅😂
This is painful. It's literally watching someone try and rufute the claim that magic isn't real and make a fool of themselves. Further, he's not trying to prove that a god can exist, he's specifically trying to prove the one the Jewish people made up is real. It's as ridiculous as proving Zeus, Rah, or all the other gods that civilizations made up is real.
I like how most of these "answers" are just assertions... lol!
I've seen a couple videos on this video already. And I am 100% not opposed to watching another one. There's a lot to be said, there could never be enough responses.
I only knew of one. I’ll have to check out the others.
The worldview of YOGSOTHOTH is the real one!
Only as long as azathoth remains asleep. All hail the blind idiot God!
When I say I'm an Atheist. then the only thing this dude can know about me is that I am not convinced that a god or gods exist. that's all.
The rest he's fantasizing in a very stupid way.
This was like a Prof. Plink reheat, but maybe more voices will help him get it.
"It's all part of God's plan" or "God moves in mysterious ways" is the usual fall-back position when Christians don't have answers.
your boss gives you money, does that mean he can take it away?
Gotta love the bit where Reverso the wizard, does the ol' Priori Incantantum spell on the "If you were born somewhere else you wouldn't be a Christian." Argument. As if the prevalence of atheism were as geographical and culturally imposed in nature as that of religion.
And way to miss the point. Your god beliefs and Theology shouldn't be geographically arranged, culturally imposed or spread through human contact at all, if there was one true omnipresent god in communication with all nations and cultures.
Atheism simply occurs wherever people happen to not believe in any gods. The only geographical correlation is the prevalence depends on how heavy the religious indoctrination of the culture and how secular. In some places it isn't even safe to admit to being atheists.
And the actual argument, isn't just, if you were born somewhere else, you wouldn't be a Christian, it's also that you'd probably be indoctrinated Into some OTHER faith based beliefs.
The whole point is, that what you believe about such things, shouldn't depend on where you happen to be brought up and what culture you live in. It's pointing out that the whole enterprise of religious belief is artificial and derived from human ideation and cultural indoctrination.
Atheism DOES NOT propagate that way.
The floating circle looks really good in glasses. It brings out the void inside. 😉
as a history nerd and an atheist i wan every internet atheist to stop using the belt buckle argument. „gottmit uns“ was the motto of haus hohenzollern and hat been on prussias and the german empires belt buckles that wasnt so much the nazis being religious that was more them calling back to the „second reich“.
I think it's not so much an argument for how religious they were, but against the claim that atheism in the broadest sense was part of their ideology.
Something that wasn't a leftover from Prussia were the oaths introduced in the mid-1930s that soldiers and public servants had to swear "by God" to obey the Führer. While for example the previous Reichswehr oath did not contain reference to God.
That still doesn't tell us a lot about the specific beliefs of the 3rd Reich leadership, but it certainly shows how they relied on established Christian tenets and were not out to remove them.
Wait - Santa isn’t real???
You just need faith in Santa. Also, you need to ignore the secular evidence against Santa. It’s not your parents in a costume or anything like that. Santa is the truth!
Also, you will get coal in every stocking forever unless you believe in Santa.
I just watched professor plinks video on this dingleberry today. Excited to see the roast SkepTick will give.
“Why can’t he destroy all the evil now?”
“Because he’d destroy you”
Im sorry when has that bothered god before? FLOOD
If he’d just sucked up and started his minecraft world from scratch on peaceful we wouldnt be in this mess! But noooo he thought killing all the villagers and illagers would solve everything
The thing I'm rather stuck on with that one is:
WHY exactly would he need to destroy me? And WHY do I deserve it? I feel like those statements require some kind of elaboration at the very least, because I do not accept that without some kind of sensible, rational justification - and I have a hard time thinking how any such justification even could be made.
@@LadyDoomsinger i mean im down for it honestly. I can be a piece of shit at times lol if it happens at least ill be utterly amazed before i die
@@SoraQuill I like to think I'm a good person. Sure, maybe I can be selfish at times, maybe I don't donate enough to charity, maybe I say mean things on occasion... But NONE of that justifies destroying me, or anyone. Or is it just because I reject the authority of people who pretend to speak on behalf of an invisible cosmic overlord.
The god this apologist worships isn’t smart enough to kill all the villagers and start clean. For some reason he decides to narrow the flood restart down to a handful from the same old stock - you know, the humans that supposedly caused the fallen world in the first place? And he puts them back in the same fallen world. So, they start effing up as soon as the flood is over. What a pea brain.
@@LadyDoomsinger i dunno, Milady. Christians have different morality I guess. It’s a good thing their storybook usually keeps the individuals from “getting rid of the evil” themselves at least.
"It's not because they are anonymous that we don't know who wrote them."
That's a special level of stupid, someone has to actually train to get to that level, it's not natural.
I like how he Said the other guys arguments where bad but then presented arguments 10x worse with 0 facts and mostly insults becuase he cant make good arguments so he had to cope by using insults so emberessing 😂😂😂
Would you like Ranch dressing for your Word Salad?
When I was in 8 th grade I got into a debate with my religious classmate and I ended it with: You know, you shouldn't judge us so quickly. What if you meet an atheist who is a good and honest man". He then added:"He who does not believe in God cannot be a good and honest man ". I should have replied with: "Oh yeah? Name one drug dealer or mafia member who is an atheist ".
Definitely my favorite British floating circle.
my Saturday is made when I get a chance to watch the new video 😊
This Redeemed Zoomer guy doesn’t seem to realize that his ideas on evil are contradictory. He says that God will one day destroy all evil but apparently can’t do it right now for reasons because he’d have to destroy us too for reasons. He also says that evil isn’t an actual thing but a lack of good. Not only does that mean that people are entirely incapable of being good or doing good, a position that I’ve seen some religious people hold, it means God is also incapable of destroying evil because it’s not a thing. So, if God got rid of all evil right now, according to Redeemed Zoomer, he’d be killing us with kindness in a literal sense
That first shot of the 'atheist argument wheel' is beyond absurdly stupid. So...that give me all the information I need to know about this dishonest person who made this video being critiqued.
I exist in the 'bible belt america' as well.
This guy's 'answers' for the questions are so lacking in understanding and insight.....due to the extreme bias he has for his 'god claims'.
I have no words...
This guy just yaps
If the same constellations in the sky has remained the same since the ancient world, it means the laws of the observable universe remains unchanged. Therefore the same physical laws that we know now were applicable then. That means snakes can't talk, seas can't part, etc.
Eh. I don't disagree with your conclusion, but in point of fact, the constellations do change as our position in the universe and the position of other stars, solar systems and galaxies change - it just happens on such a slow scale that we can't really see it.
For example, our current North Star is Polaris, but in 3000 BCE Thuban was recorded in that position and, according to predictions, Vega will be in the North Star in 14500 CE.
Anyone who wants a relationship with me must first introduce themselves to me. Also they have to exist.
Stop being so unreasonable and persecuting the poor (rich and powerful and in the majority) Christians.
I only needed to see the thumbnail to know that this was in response to Redeemed Zoomer.
Hitler wasn't an atheist, not vegetarian, nor were Nazis socialists. Anyone claiming any of these can be ignored immediately as an idiot. That's a three minute video SkepTick, Bosh, job done, time for a pint.
You can’t “debunk” a lack of belief in something, but even if you could, it wouldn’t be by rationalizing what YOU believe.
Well, that's the problem? They seem to assume the default position is that their god is real, until something else is proven true. If this other viewpoint isn't proven 100% valid, Christianity automatically wins.
Neglecting how many other gods people have worshipped, and how a lot of those predate Christianity.
@@starofjustice1 The existence of their god being unfalsifiable, they'll alway be able to say, "ultimately, god did it" and keep the sheep in line.
Is that statement correct? I was trying to think of another example other than religion.
If someone doesn't accept the claim "the Earth is round", couldn't you "debunk" their lack of belief by proving the Earth is in fact round?
This analogy isn't perfect though, because religion has yet to prove any God. I guess your statement would be correct if the person was just justifying their belief in a round earth, rather than providing proof.
@@wj2036 I'd say you can debunk a claim but not a lack of belief. However, you might be able to persuade someone to move from a lack of belief to belief with evidence.
@@bobmudge447 I think I see what you mean. In the round earth example, would you say you can at least make the lack of belief unreasonable?
That only 7% of was are about religion is so monstrously wrong.
Agree
Bull s##t on toast! Aka chipped cream on toast?