I heard an announcement on Amtrak one time "you may leave the train, but if you come back and the train is gone, remember you left the train, the train did not leave you."
This should be re-titled to "Woman misses Amtrak train" it's not the conductors fault that she didn't get on the train in time, they have a schedule to keep
The conductor most certainly did *not* yell anything "foul" at the woman. He said and you can hear it- "I asked you if this was your stop and you said yes!" You can't just stop a train again!
Yes, maintaining the schedule is important. But it's okay if the Locomotive Engineer (perhaps ordered by the Conductor) stops short of the station work. In other words, it's okay for crew to make a mistake but not a passenger. I remember 50 years ago, conductors were required to walk through the entire train consist at least once each run. They actually paid attention to the little "chets" and knew who was getting off. Now, too much dependancy is made on aging public address systems. Can't understand how that could affect a passenger? I guess you'll have to think about it. No problem stopping three times when, assuming nothing wrong, only two would have been required. Of course, the crew will still be paid whether or not the passenger continues to ride Amtrak due to extensive use of our tax dollars. Back when Santa Fe was running passenger trains, they wanted that customer's (passenger) return Business because their railroad was NOT subsidized!!
Just imagine what would happen if trains stopped to accommodate late, missing, or preoccupied passengers every time! Trains would NEVER be on-time. The conductor is not your personal baby sitter, every one has to follow the rules, especially passengers.
I used to work for the railroad. I had a passenger call me on the phone one day and asked if the train to Chicago had arrived? I said yes, it was in the station now, and would be leaving in about 1 minute. This Chucklehead told me, "hold the train I'll be right down." Well, of course I couldn't hold hundreds of passengers and make them late for one man who had failed to show up, and I told him so. He hung up. About 8 or 9 minutes later, he pulled up an ran up to the tracks, asking "where's the train? I told you to hold it for me." What a dumb ass! I told him the train had left 10 minutes ago, as it was scheduled to do. Man, he was so mad at me! I bet he's never late to get on a train again! Fact is, the train will never wait except if the Division Superintendent orders it held, or the Governor of the State asks it to be held. No one else can hold a train.
That's because the long-distance trains run on BNSF, Union Pacific, CSX, CN, and Norfolk Southern owned-and-operated freight tracks that usually busy with freight trains. These companies have sole rights to run on these tracks.
B.S. The passenger cued up to disembark the train, and did so in order; with the other passengers leaving the train at La Plata. If she had told her car attendant or the assistant conductor on the platform; they would have cautioned her to not leave the platform. She didn't tell them and the video shows that she clearly disembarked the train and passed the car attendant, the Assistant Conductor, and the Station Volunteer helper, without indicating that she intended to return to the train. She left with the disembarking party. And only after it was too late; did she slowly turn and first begin running back to the platform. She did not call out to the station helper from where she was (when the train signaled it was leaving); nor did she call out to the on-board personnel when she made her fake mad dash (for the cameras) to return to the platform. It was all staged for the camera, and replaying the footage four our more times, immediately reveals that what she did was deliberate. Just watch the video.
So you are basically talking about living in Italy, if it isn't for the fact that trains don't accommodate you but simply every day there is a fucking thing that doesn't work somewhere
Hmmm....I would have answered that way too if I had been her, but I would not have meant I was getting off of the train and *staying* off of the train. "Are you getting off of the train?" "Yes." (Thought, but unsaid: "...and I'll get back on in a few minutes.") She gave a literal answer to the way he asked the question. He must have meant, "Are you getting off of the train *and staying* when we leave?"
jdshultis Unless the fat man was blind, he could very well observe, that the lady was getting off the train! The right question to ask, would have been: "Lady, will you be returning back ON the train?" Freaking railroad morons! Hahahahahahahaahaha!
This popped up in my suggestions again Uggh. So here is the real story. I know because I was there. I work here as a station caretaker. Story is this. She gets off train. Conductor and I both ask her if this is her stop. She said yes and continued visiting with the group of people that got off the train with her. Ok. All the bags must be there somewhere. So on to helping other passengers etc. Said goodbye to the conductor and off they went. She then comes running up to the train saying she needs to get back on. The rest is on the video. Train was high balled. She then admitted to saying she wanted to get off for a cigarette. That was a $400.00 cigarette. No one did anything wrong but the lady. She lied. Plain and simple.
Bob Cox hi Bob! When a Trains Highballed it cant really stop for something and then get going again easily? Dispatch have be notified etc...? Thank you.
@Bob Cox you just can't fix stupid. That said it is still one of my favorite videos to watch. It was posted on facebook tonight so had to watch it again lol
@@billglaser they can't that mean that this train will be late, and all the trains behind this one will run late. Just cause someone wasn't being smart
Amtrak Traveler911 this is not a smoke stop they have only a number of stations on each route that are and when you board they make a announcement NOT to get off unless 1 It is your stop. 2 It is a scheduled smoke stop. She should have waited it is clear she walked off the train talking to a different passenger so we have no idea what she was asked getting off the train or if she even responded.
@@mr.boomer8794 When you purchase a train, airline or bus ticket you agree to a contract of carriage. Amtrak has announcements at every stop that is not a smoke stop to not get off the train and at smoke stops they inform passengers to stay on the station platform to smoke and they must be onboard when the all aboard signal is given. She broke the contract of carriage.
I’ve been riding Amtrak whenever I get the chance for many years now and this here is exactly the reason why every time I step off at a smoke/fresh air stop, I always check our scheduled departure time, keep an eye on the clock the whole time but most of all, stay near the train and for me, never wait until the last minute to get back on. But sometimes you still have what can turn out to be close calls. I rode the Empire Builder from Chicago to Portland in July and when we stopped at Havre, MT, my biggest concern for passengers stepping off was the risk of being left behind. When we arrived, I checked our status and saw that we wouldn’t have a whole lot of time at the station but with my desire to get a shot of our locomotives despite being seated in the second to last coach, I decided to do it. I walked practically the entire train to the front, got my photos and started heading back. About halfway, I heard the all aboard call and immediately broke into a sprint all the way back to the coach. As soon as I got back to my seat, huffing and puffing from the sudden run, the train started moving. My theory was proven right, time flies and if you don’t pay attention, you’ll get left behind.
Yes, I remember traveling westbound on the Builder in 2000, and a passenger was left behind in Havre. This was (is?) a common occurrence as the train stopped about a half-mile out of the Havre while the passenger was driven out to the Builder and rejoined the train!! Unlike the subject of this video. It just seems to me that Amtrak is becoming less and less user-friendly! I can certainly understand passenger confusion after trains wait in sidings, experience delays, etc... and then all of a sudden, they are required to be attentive/rush. In other words, it's OK if Amtrak makes mistakes but not the passenger!!
Perhaps would best not pop out to photograph the loco in Europe. The schedules are generally tighter than Amtrak. Possible because passenger usually has president over freight.
Check out Bald and bankrupt Indian train trip, he got out at some stations to buy snacks , water etc and no announcement was made that the train was leaving, they just blew the horn which is I guess the announcement, but bald had to jog back and get on while the train was going 5-8 mph 😅 , the doors are kept open anyways so you can lean way out at 40 mph , Indian trains are different
@@luzmalara5584Each Amtrak train has to maintain their schedule, hence why it only stops for so long at each smoke/stretch break station. The schedule has to be maintained, and Amtrak even clearly has said(back in the day when they printed the national Amtrak timetable guide) that "smoke stops can be shortened or eliminated, if the train is running late". And of course if a certain stop is not announced as a smoke/stretch break(where the train will immediately leave once a train is finished boarding/discharging passengers), do NOT try to step off the train at a stop that isn't a 'smoke break' station. Note a few smoke stops are done overnight during quiet hours(10pm-7am, when overheard announcements are not made to let passengers sleep), such as Dodge City, KS on Southwest Chief and Carbondale, IL on City of New Orleans. Cleveland is also an overnight smoke stop on Lake Shore Limited and Capitol Limited, and Cincinnati on the Cardinal. Always keep a close eye on the doors during each smoke stop(IF you do step off), so that you aren't left behind. Plus don't be afraid to ask one of the train employees which stop(s) will be a smoke stop, and for how long they will be for.
@BoratWanksta like you, my friend, I've read (and still have copies) the old Amtrak Schedules and have ridden every Amtrak route. I've even ridden pre-amtrak trains. So, I'm aware of the "On board Dynamics" that occur during an Amtrak trip. Again, as I've stated, "Amtrak is becoming less user-friendly!" Yes, there are always "knuckleheads" who do what they want and perhaps deserve to get left behind, but I am talking about honest people trying to follow the rules who get confused. Rules are shouted out over the "PA" and are sometimes even more confusing. (The PA might be out/off in a particular car, and the crew is unaware of it - or like myself deaf - for me, thank the lord, only in my left ear) How did the Santa Fe Railroad, for example, run passenger trains with very few people ever being left behind? All this without a PA. Well, the crews worked their buts off and got to know each passenger in their charge and saw to it that passengers got to their destination with as little interference as possible so that passengers could enjoy their trip. Even the Conductor was required to walk through the entire train once, each tour of duty! Wouldn't that same dedication to each Amtrak passenger still be relevant today? Are the crews truly overworked? Don't get me wrong, your comment is valid, that's one of the reasons, knowing the schedule and the rules, I've never been left behind. Truth is, God has seen that I wasn't left behind a couple of times! Happy travels, Nathan in Chicago 🇺🇲
Happens a lot. In 2015 I was on the Coast Starlight from Los Angeles to Portland. There's a smoke stop at Eugene, and the conductor announced, prior to the stop, to stay close to the train and watch for his signal to re-board. He stressed that, on almost every trip, someone gets left behind. We were at Eugene for about fifteen minutes or so before the "All aboard!" was given. I was in the last coach and noticed an empty seat as I re-boarded and wondered where that guy was. I was looking out the window as we pulled put and saw someone running behind us. The conductor announced over the PA that, sure enough, someone was left in Eugene.
I traveled from CHI to SEA on the Empire a couple years ago. I noticed that when the conductor punched your ticket or whatever he stuck the stub in the slot on the overhead luggage carrier above your head indicating what your stop was so if you happened to be sleep he could awaken you. A nice courtesy I must add. In the middle of the night, I saw a girl running through the car frantically like she might have lost her child. A few minutes later the train came to a slow stop. We were in the middle of nowhere. No town, no lights, no announcement, no nothing. A little time passed and another AMTRAK passed us going in the opposite direction pulled alongside us and stopped. As I gazed up and down the track between us I noticed a conductor and that girl walking and then getting on the other train. I figured out that she got up from her original seat to go to the club car which is more comfortable and fell asleep so when the conductor saw that she was gone he assumed she made her stop. We just happened to meet the EMPIRE going in the other direction at just the right time and she could make her stop. AMTRAK is strict about their no stopping policy so I thought this was above and beyond service.
Awkward moment for Bob the station manager. For the record the passenger spent the night at a nearby motel & caught the next train the following evening. She was in good spirits the following evening so while this moment was dramatic she has a fun story to tell in the future. You can view the ultimate reality show from La Plata 24/7 courtesy of the good people at Virtual Railfan.
I know it for a fact without even being told that Bob the station master assisted with getting her accommodations for the night which would include making sure she was safe and making sure her belongings on the train were taken care of. That is how business is done in La Plata. Great team there.
On other Virtual Railfan cameras that are smoke/stretch stops, I've seen close calls where someone almost was left behind by not reboarding when the conductor said 'all aboard'. I have no doubt Virtual Railfan cameras probably have caught at least a few instances(at such break stations) of someone being left behind, before. At Barstow, CA(which is a short smoke stop at least for the eastbound Southwest Chief), I recall one time I saw someone almost left behind there. If it wasn't for one Amtrak employee catching that rider and telling him to reboard, he could've easily been left behind.
I was on the Carolinian in 2020 and they announced at Raleigh that there was a brief smoke break and said "if you leave this train, then this train will leave you." It is NOT Amtrak's responsibility to babysit you and make sure that you are all on-board and accounted for before proceeding off. It is your responsibility to make sure that you are on board the train when it is time to depart. A good thing to keep in mind that unless the stop is designated as an official smoke break, then assume the train will quickly stop, load and unload, and then depart as soon as they are ready within a couple minutes. You are most likely not going to have time to get off the train to stretch your legs or smoke at most stops. Just some friendly advice from a seasoned traveller.
The Amtrak train doesn't mess around with departure times. You shouldn't get off the train unless it is a scheduled stop for crew change. Even during a scheduled stop you make sure you know the departure time, go get a newspaper or magazine then head immediately back to your seat on the train a few minutes early. The concept of you leaving the train not the train leaving you needs to be taken to heart.
I've Taken many Amtrak long distant trains. The de-train for fresh air/smoke break stops are clearly announced with the warning to stay close to the train and do not enter the stations is given. As soon as soon as new passegers are aboard the conductor announces the departure, you must enter the train and it quickly departs The conductor has no way of knowing who is on the platform is waiting for someone to pick them up or what ever. Heed the warnings!
A lot of people don't realize the reasons why a train must keep it's schedule. It's primarily because the tracks are shared and you need to keep your open slot on the tracks. If not, you could get stuck behind other trains causing further delays not only on your train but the other trains as well. This woman clearly chose to get off the train and ignore the conductor. She then realized that she should have listened and then wanted to delay everyone on the train and potentially other trains as a result. Sometimes you have to realize that you made a mistake and own up to it.
Simple rule to follow when taking the train: unless it is a scheduled stop (for things like crew change, leg stretching/walking/smoking opportunity), don't get off the train if it isn't your stop - the train will leave without you
I live in Austria, the Countey with the second best Railway in Europe. Here a Mother got off a High Speed Train to Smoke, left her Baby onbord. Than the train departed without her and Ende in the Next Stop, three hours away
@@tyrese3745 He will if it is serious like he made somebody get killed or made them get hurt badly down that line he will get fire but if he fails to get the tickets or something down that line he will get in trouble
@@barroningram7286 You must self-entitled, just like the left-behind-woman is. The audio at the end of the video is clear enough to hear the conductor stating from the open door-window, "I asked if you were getting off here, you said yes"". Her reply: "I got off for a smoke!". Now, do you want to reevaluate your 'real pricks' comment to be more along the lines of: "Some women can be totally stupid"
La Plata is not a smoke break or stretch stop. It is for picking up and departing passengers. If you listen closely, the conductor said something related to "You said you were getting off," or. "I asked you and you said yes!" Protocol on Amtrak is when a train starts moving, and someone is left behind, the train will not stop for one person. Passenger trains, especially long distance ones, e.g. coast starlight, Texas eagle, southwest chief, are to be on time as much as possible. Also, I need to include this, but if it's a smoke or stretch stop, they announce it, and they specifically tell you to stay next to your car. Luckily, she had her ticket and money in her purse. After this incident, she continued her journey the next train.
That couple she was walking away from the train with, were probably not "her actual friends", but rather some people she was sitting near on the train, and was "chatting with". Note how the couple did not stick around to aid her. That is not what "actual friends" do in a situation like this.
The description makes no sense because the woman got off the train and walked towards the parking lot, she should have listened for a departure announcement that would have been broadcasted. Also it is not that easy to stop an accelerating train and is very inefficient to do so. It is fully the responsibility of the passenger to get on the train on time. Lastly the audio is so unclear that you can’t even tell if the conductor says anything
If an announcement is made for you to return back to the train and you don't get back on the train. Remember we did not leave you, you left us. The next train to Los Angeles is 24 hours the next day. Don't miss your train.
The Amtrak staff are very good about advising passengers which stops one is able to exit the train for a breath of fresh air and which stops are quick stops.
After watching this video numerous times, the characteristic engine chug of the General Electric 7 FDL prime mover on those Genesis locomotives as they race away at Full Throttle really gives a nice rather comedic touch to this whole situation.
I’ve taken this exact train several times. They literally announce prior to the stations to not leave the train as the station stops are too short. Totally the passengers fault.
Those asking where she stayed... I am assuming since she walked with friends to their car, they must live nearby so likely with them. But where did they disappear to? This town has a nice place to stay called Depot Inn & Suites also. Highly unlikely he "yelled" anything foul to her! This was her fault.
It's not very usual that passengers come too late on the station (at least here in Croatia). Under special circumstance I think it's ethical that engineman stops the train. In Croatia, we have signalman at the bigger stations and if he sees the person is hurrying to catch the train, he makes a combination of sound and hand signal for engineman to stop the train because someone is boarding. This takes few seconds and usually doesn't delay the train at all.
That lady took a risk and lost. If I had been her, I would have said my goodbyes while still on the train. Or at the very least, ask the conductor if I had time to get off the train temporarily for a minute or two. Long ago before Amtrak when each railroad operated their own passenger trains, my family travelled by train on vacations. My father would give my mother heart attacks at some train stops. If he saw a conductor go into a station for any reason, he would also get off to buy souvenirs. Lucky for him, he never missed the train.
I saw this happen a week ago. I was rec P097's depature from orlando, as the train picked up speed. However this woman boarded the train as it was moving.
Amtrak runs over a lot of track that they do not own. Therefore the Railroads and Amtrak work hard to keep the trains on time. And if the psgr train is running just a few moments late the train crews will try to make up the time loss so they can get back on time again. If the train gets off schedule then it creates more problems and that will create long waits or even people having to wait a whole day for the next days train to run. The crews do their best to avoid causing unwanted delays and that makes riding on trains a better experience for everyone.
NMsanduneman yeah don't they have to pay the freight companies for being late too? To make up for time they're not supposed to be delaying the other trains
Namely the Burlington Northern-Santa Fe (BNSF) Railway. This, along with Union Pacific (dubbed "the Great Big Rollin' Railroad"), Canadian National, CP Rail, CSX Transportation and Norfolk Southern have freight trains that need to run on time as well as Amtrak.
100% the passenger's fault. She could have asked the conductor when the train will be departing, and he would have told her in one minute. She was just casually strolling out, expecting the train to wait for her, like this train was her personal chauffeur. I doubt the train conductor said something foul. They're extremely courteous. Anyway, if the train leaves without you, remember there's nothing more beautiful than watching an Amtrak train roll into the sunset. :)
I took the Southwest Chief a few days ago and, as a railfan and also fan of the La Plata live cam, asked the Conductor for the chance to step off here just to say high to the guys looking the cam, but she was very, i mean VERY strict about it and of course it was a negative answer. So had to stay on the last car taking pictures. Better than being left behind though.
@@TheSjuris, well, it can, but only if there's some sort of emergency, such a passenger taking ill. Otherwise, freight trains a few miles behind Amtrak may get delayed, possibly leading to other issues, such as crews "dying on the law" far from a regular crew-change point. This in turn creates headaches for the RR companies & their train crews & dispatchers.
We witnessed the opposite scenario 30 years ago in Indianapolis. We had boarded the Cardinal there on our way to Chicago. There was slightly entitled woman in our car helping elderly relatives get settled. She continued her ritual of lifting and hugging, and had no urgency to disembark. Obviously, the aspect turned green and I heard two short bursts of the horn as we began to move. She freaked out and demanded that the train be stopped before clearing Union Station. The conductor had no sympathy, and she was forced to ride all the way to Lafayette which was the next stop. She was not a happy camper. My memory fails me, but I believe that she also had to purchase a one-way ticket.
As a conductor myself, you leave at your own risk, we always say when we blow the whistle get inside the train or else we will leave without you, we aint gonna delay 100s of other people and we announce it
Same holds true with aircraft. You get off, expect to be left behind. They wont pull back up to the gate because you went to Starbucks to get a Lattee at the terminal and missed the flight. Get over it, trains and planes have schedules and have to TRY to stick to them.
OMG!!! I Watched this LIVE when it happened! The conductor didn't yell anything foul! You can hear the conductor shouting as the trains was leaving, "I asked you if this was your stop and you said yes!" She had to wait 24 hours and then got back on the the next west bound train to continued on. The woman who got off the train was NOT following the rules! They tell you when the stop is a smoke break and you can get off the train for a short while. But the La Plata stop is a drop off/take on passengers and go type stop. No Lounging! Because when they go, they go! And NO backing up! I've watched several Virtual Railfan cams and they NEVER stop once they are going and they NEVER back up to pick up people! But she did get back on the train the next night and continued on. Thank God he had her purse! I don't know where she stayed (I'm not even sure if La Plata has a restaurant or a motel... population 1326 , the closest place is Kirksville, a college town, 14 miles away) but she did have a plastic store bag of, I assume, toiletries.
When you hear the "toot toot" of the engine's horn, and the little light by the door turns from red to green (that means the brakes have been released) ... you'd better be ON the train ...
I was on the Empire Builder coming home to Minneapolis from Essex, Montana (Glacier National Park) and I remember the Conductor’s warnings at smoke stops about getting back on the train in time. On the trip to Essex we didn’t leave anyone behind but coming back from Essex, three people were left behind at a couple different stops. I had a really sick feeling for them as they ran after the train but on the other hand they were definitely warned. Even if you don’t smoke those extended stops are lifesavers and if you’re a railfan you get the bonus of a super close-up inspection of the power.
The lady's fault totally. This was NOT her stop, the conductor asked her to be sure. She got off anyway. Conductor did nothing wrong and in fact it was safer for all ( including passengers ) that the train did not stop, especially in emergency like some armchair railroad clowns wanted them to do. And her friend was not surprised she made this mistake apparently.
If the conductor would have pulled the emergency brake on that coach, He probably would have lost his job. So it was not his fault by all means upon review of this surveillance tape.
Ford Escape And it wouldn’t have been selfish of him to have inconvenienced all of the other passengers for ONE retarded ex-passenger who did the stupidest thing you could have done when traveling by train?
Some are very often, like the Northeast corridor or between Los Angeles and San Diego, but not for long distance trains like these, because of little passenger traffic. If a passenger gets off, the passenger takes full responsibility. If their luggage is still on the train, Amtrak will find it once it reaches the end of the line. The passenger will get it back, but they'll be walking around in dirty underwear until they do.
They try to stay on schedule. I remember while in the Navy waiting for the last CN&W passenger train in Kenosha, Wisconsin headed to Great Lakes, Illinois in the early morning hours. An engineer hopped up in a train on a secondary track and pulled up, stopped. I asked him, is this train #...? He said "Yes, I'll be back" and backed up past the switch, pulled over onto the main and went past me and my friend without stopping. The train was accelerating somewhere between 2-5 mph when my friend jumped onto a passenger door threshold so I pulled him off. Those trains normally would get up to 60 mph back then. My guess is the engineer realized he was running late. We slept in the open, deserted station on wooden benches until the first train in the morning. We had to run from the station back to the barracks to be back in time for muster that day.
Conductor didn't yell anything foul. He said "You said you were getting off, right?" He's dealing with multiple things and doesnt have time to keep track of ONE passenger. She said she was getting off, so he let her off and left, assuming it was her home stop. La Plata is not a scheduled crew change, break, etc, so once you're off, you're off.
wow... there is so much misleading with everything here from the title to the description... Neither the conductor nor Amtrak did anything to be faulted for.
As said it is not a smoke stop. They specifically tell you not to get off the train and or you can and will be left behind. And there are all sorts of rules and regulations against a train stopping and reversing directions like this. Her fault all the way.
Wow, this happened so quickly that I had to go back and rewind the video. I'm glad I saw this video because I was told when the train comes to a rest area or to pick people up or let them off, you have 10 minutes to get fresh air. I don't think this lady was off for no more than 2 minutes. So lesson learned when I take my trip next week.
Get a copy of the timetable. If the train is on-time or-perish the thought!-late, assume its dwell time in the station will be no more than scheduled. In most cases, that's 2 to 5 minutes. In some major cities it's longer, but Amtrak takes advantage of the long scheduled waits to get the train back on schedule. IOW, if there's a scheduled 30-minute stop but the train is 10 minutes late, don't expect it to be in the station more than 20 minutes.
Not sure why it says the train left her. We see her get off and halfway to the parking lot and only when the train is leaving does she suddenly decide she didn't want to be off the train. Seems like it's entirely her own fault.
The reason is Amtrak is trying to be on time departed because it's always struggled late for the destination such as appointment or events or booked hotels or visiting and many more. It's should have longer platform too instead of moving at each cars at a time.
Amtrak is always late (a piss poor record) so invariably they are always in a hurry to get people on and off as quickly as possible hoping to make up some time. This train was probably already running 2+ hours late at this point.
Jeff Pratt 18 minutes behind pretty much means they ended up in LA 42 minutes early. Amtrak adds delays into their schedules just like the airlines do. They can’t wait for a long time at that particular station. The local citizens might complain about a street being blocked.
La Plata, Missouri has a Virtual Railfan webcam, for those who want to see movements for all trains(Amtrak, freight trains, etc). And why this camera is on 24/7.
This is stupid. She left the train and it was already moving. If they had to stop the train again for one stupid passenger it would delay everybody else. He could not have "easily stopped the train".
Had a really bad headache for a whole day a few years back while riding the train due to pain medication being unavailable on the train, all stores that sell them being well out of walking distance from the stations, and the showers were actually not working so no spraying warn water on my forehead. Still had enough sense to not even try walking to the store.
The train waits for no one they have a schedule to keep in keeping that schedule is most priority number one important. I’m sorry lady you lose you have to wait for the next one.
Amtrak announces several times that it is going to be a quick stop not once but several times. They also announce that it will be a smoking stop. My advice is listen to the announcements especially the horn. So who's fault is it. Not Amtrak the lady that stepped off the train two minutes prior to it leaving.
It was definitely the woman's fault. She messed up. Afterwards, people went out of their way to accommodate her. I don't see a video about that..More click bait.
Well, how about taking the opportunity to inform us as to the resolution to the story, as you seem to be in the know. Your cliff hanging statement is just as annoying as the click bait.
This isn't click bait. Accidents happen. And if you think you wasted 7 minutes and 51 seconds of your time, good for you GoPro Creations. Good for you!
He could have radioed the head end to stop, they just started moving so they would not have had to dump the air, granted its lady's fault for getting off at undesignated break stop, but a couple seconds is all it would take to get her back on
In the movies, you would hear a loud warning like, "All Aboard!" or something like, "Last call for..." then at least a minute more of conductor standing outside the train. This lady didn't even leave the platform!!!!! She was in talking-distance of the conductor who seemed to sneak back in and lock the door.
I don't get it. She got off the train and was walking with someone talking to them like she knew them then seen the train moving and ran back and the people she was with continued on. People need to give her a break. She's not stupid, she's not a moron. She made a mistake.
Who cares if the others were late? The train might have been late regardless. So who really cares? No one is going anywhere important. You get there when you get there.
Although not exactly the same, when I was returning to Seattle from New Orleans, via Los Angeles, i was on the Sunset Limited.i noticed a man a few seats back who was sound asleep when we were leaving San Antonio. He was asleep when we arrived in San Antonio and snoring as we left heading west. As the sun came up, about 7 hours beyond San Antonio going west, the man woke up. He stopped the conductor to ask about his stop of SAN ANTONIO, with a reply of "sir we stopped at San Antonio 7 hours ago". The man was furious with the conductor which actually did no good since the conductor could not go to each passenger, wake them up to advise each person on the train , as to their stop. By this time in the morning , we were getting relatively close to El Paso. I think this is where the man got off of the train. He would have to wait in El Paso for the next east bound train to San Antonio. In this case, the conductor did nothing wrong. I do remember back then, passengers were advised via PA, not to leave the train unless completely getting off the train at your stop. If the La Plata woman got off the train for a smoke, I hope the nicotine fix was worth it.
Unless it's a designated smoking stop. La Plata is not one of them. Once all boarding passengers are on, they leave. Even if it means leaving someone behind.
You can during certain station stops, but La Plata, Missouri(almost always, though the train crew can make a rare exception and call additional smoke/stretch stops if the train is early arriving somewhere, they almost never do that) is NOT a smoke/stretch stop. On the message board Amtrak Unlimited, several posters once compiled a guide of all the smoke/stretch stops of each long distance Amtrak train. If you do a google search, you can find this message board thread. The closest smoke stops to La Plata on the Southwest Chief, are Fort Madison, Iowa to the east, and Kansas City to the west.
Actually, the deal is that La Plata, Missouri is NOT a smoke/stretch break. There are stretch/smoke stops at Fort Madison(Iowa) and Kansas City, where you should smoke or stretch. La Plata has NEVER been a stretch stop for the Southwest Chief. It only picks up passengers and drops off passengers, and leaves immediately when that is finished. Serves her right she was left behind, since she did not listen to the instructions of the train crew that La Plata was not a smoke/stretch stop.
The fact that the train was already late into the station... if it rolled in say 5 mins early as it sometimes does then fair enough you could get off, but if it's already behind you ought to assume they'll depart ASAP.
And the world goes round. She could have been distracted on her phone or something. They really could have let her on real fast. After all, Amtrak will end up being delayed anyway. @@63076topher
@@FordEscape12345678 Then don’t go on your phone while outside the station if your planning to get back on the train! I’m shocked that there are people as dumb as you on UA-cam.
To me it looks like she got off with some other passengers to say bye to them. A comment below said that she said that she was getting off the train but I think her relatives/friends were.
Also this is so different in in Australia in Brisbane, they always have their trains fully within the platform so you can get off the train on your own at any point on the train at your stop. +more info: Do the conductors do that thing where they look down the platform for anymore oncoming passengers to get on or off? When we use that strat the trains can be there at stations for like 10 seconds minimum lol
Some people have to learn things the hard way. I witnessed a woman that thought trains would just wait and wait and wait for her in person. She had ONE STOP to go (about 20 minutes) from Sac to Davis California. ONE STOP. And she unloaded all her crap onto the table. :/ Then at Davis, she sat on the phone and talked while the train was stopped. Then she decided to get up and begin to gather up all her crap that she'd spread out on the table-- and the train began to move. She acted like a victim (of course). At the next stop (Vacaville) we got off, and so did she-- JUST MISSING the train heading back toward Davis. (Another would be coming along that day, probably in an hour or two-- IDK the schedule). Again it was "Are you kidding me?!" out loud. Nope. Not kidding. You screwed up. Nothing you could do about the Vac to Davis train, they decided not to wait for you (probably wise--since she doesn't seem to respect other people's time). It's on you to be smarter next time.
I felt bad for that female passenger, Amtrak should make exceptions if a passenger can't get back on the train on time, what difference does one or two minutes make? It was senseless of the train to leave without that lady
So what happened was that I was at Harper's ferry, wv, waiting for the capitol limited #30, I was trying to go to Washington DC, and the train made 1 stop and the conductor told us to go to the back, and it did not make another stop, and left me
I heard an announcement on Amtrak one time "you may leave the train, but if you come back and the train is gone, remember you left the train, the train did not leave you."
I heard it in Havre Montana on the Empire Builder Conductor states Havre is not the place to be left behind.
Great way to put it ... when everyone getting off gets off, and everyone getting on gets on, the train's outta here ...
Nice saying. Love it. It is so true.
Yes, Amtrak will leave anyone who does not get back on, it must maintain schedule.
Daniel Kohner and another train can come and you can get on it
This should be re-titled to "Woman misses Amtrak train" it's not the conductors fault that she didn't get on the train in time, they have a schedule to keep
I agree. That amtrak doesnt want to be late again
Time waits for no one, not even for a woman.
If you look at the video, she got off the train with another passenger, why, I don’t know. She had no business getting off the train.
As A freight engineer I can tell you, I’m so glad I don’t deal with freight that talks...
I literally LOL'd
And you get paid more
I guess you wold not care about them talking if they would be loaded in locked and sealed cages on your train ...
Yeah it’s nice there’s only one other person instead of like 60 on a Amtrak
LOL epic comment!!! When I was in commercial aviation, and jumped to cargo, I used to say "boxes don't talk back".
legends say she's still waiting there up to this day.
Andreas Hoppe lmao funny but no she got on the morning Amtrak
No, you stupid PIG! It's a live CCTV CAMARA; ua-cam.com/video/bPvtd3uJ63s/v-deo.html
Lmao very good one 😭🤣🤣🤣
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The conductor most certainly did *not* yell anything "foul" at the woman. He said and you can hear it- "I asked you if this was your stop and you said yes!" You can't just stop a train again!
Yes, maintaining the schedule is important. But it's okay if the Locomotive Engineer (perhaps ordered by the Conductor) stops short of the station work. In other words, it's okay for crew to make a mistake but not a passenger. I remember 50 years ago, conductors were required to walk through the entire train consist at least once each run. They actually paid attention to the little "chets" and knew who was getting off. Now, too much dependancy is made on aging public address systems. Can't understand how that could affect a passenger? I guess you'll have to think about it. No problem stopping three times when, assuming nothing wrong, only two would have been required. Of course, the crew will still be paid whether or not the passenger continues to ride Amtrak due to extensive use of our tax dollars. Back when Santa Fe was running passenger trains, they wanted that customer's (passenger) return Business because their railroad was NOT subsidized!!
Just imagine what would happen if trains stopped to accommodate late, missing, or preoccupied passengers every time! Trains would NEVER be on-time. The conductor is not your personal baby sitter, every one has to follow the rules, especially passengers.
I used to work for the railroad. I had a passenger call me on the phone one day and asked if the train to Chicago had arrived? I said yes, it was in the station now, and would be leaving in about 1 minute. This Chucklehead told me, "hold the train I'll be right down." Well, of course I couldn't hold hundreds of passengers and make them late for one man who had failed to show up, and I told him so. He hung up. About 8 or 9 minutes later, he pulled up an ran up to the tracks, asking "where's the train? I told you to hold it for me." What a dumb ass! I told him the train had left 10 minutes ago, as it was scheduled to do. Man, he was so mad at me! I bet he's never late to get on a train again! Fact is, the train will never wait except if the Division Superintendent orders it held, or the Governor of the State asks it to be held. No one else can hold a train.
American trains are never on time anyway lmao what's the big deal taking an extra 30 seconds when it's already an hour late
That's because the long-distance trains run on BNSF, Union Pacific, CSX, CN, and Norfolk Southern owned-and-operated freight tracks that usually busy with freight trains. These companies have sole rights to run on these tracks.
B.S. The passenger cued up to disembark the train, and did so in order; with the other passengers leaving the train at La Plata. If she had told her car attendant or the assistant conductor on the platform; they would have cautioned her to not leave the platform. She didn't tell them and the video shows that she clearly disembarked the train and passed the car attendant, the Assistant Conductor, and the Station Volunteer helper, without indicating that she intended to return to the train. She left with the disembarking party. And only after it was too late; did she slowly turn and first begin running back to the platform.
She did not call out to the station helper from where she was (when the train signaled it was leaving); nor did she call out to the on-board personnel when she made her fake mad dash (for the cameras) to return to the platform. It was all staged for the camera, and replaying the footage four our more times, immediately reveals that what she did was deliberate. Just watch the video.
So you are basically talking about living in Italy, if it isn't for the fact that trains don't accommodate you but simply every day there is a fucking thing that doesn't work somewhere
I was on that train that day and the conductor specifically said to her “are you getting off the train”? She said yes”
Well, she did.
And she didn't lie
Hmmm....I would have answered that way too if I had been her, but I would not have meant I was getting off of the train and *staying* off of the train. "Are you getting off of the train?" "Yes." (Thought, but unsaid: "...and I'll get back on in a few minutes.") She gave a literal answer to the way he asked the question. He must have meant, "Are you getting off of the train *and staying* when we leave?"
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Unless the fat man was blind, he could very well observe, that the lady was getting off the train!
The right question to ask, would have been: "Lady, will you be returning back ON the train?"
Freaking railroad morons!
Hahahahahahahaahaha!
Ζήνων Ελεάτης a better question...is this your stop
This popped up in my suggestions again Uggh. So here is the real story. I know because I was there. I work here as a station caretaker. Story is this. She gets off train. Conductor and I both ask her if this is her stop. She said yes and continued visiting with the group of people that got off the train with her. Ok. All the bags must be there somewhere. So on to helping other passengers etc. Said goodbye to the conductor and off they went. She then comes running up to the train saying she needs to get back on. The rest is on the video. Train was high balled. She then admitted to saying she wanted to get off for a cigarette. That was a $400.00 cigarette. No one did anything wrong but the lady. She lied. Plain and simple.
Bob Cox hi Bob! When a Trains Highballed it cant really stop for something and then get going again easily? Dispatch have be notified etc...? Thank you.
@Bob Cox you just can't fix stupid. That said it is still one of my favorite videos to watch. It was posted on facebook tonight so had to watch it again lol
@@billglaser they can't that mean that this train will be late, and all the trains behind this one will run late. Just cause someone wasn't being smart
"no one did anything wrong .." -- a train ticket shouldn't be $400
@@tomservo5007 Train ticket was not $400.00. There was hotel costs too.
He had no way of knowing she wanted the train. She wasn't there when he finished loading the passengers who were there on time. Her fault, not his.
She was already on the train, she hopped off of it. Probably to smoke a cigarette.
Amtrak Traveler911 this is not a smoke stop they have only a number of stations on each route that are and when you board they make a announcement NOT to get off unless
1 It is your stop.
2 It is a scheduled smoke stop.
She should have waited it is clear she walked off the train talking to a different passenger so we have no idea what she was asked getting off the train or if she even responded.
@@63076topher keep in mind she is a member of the general public; instructions and rules dont apply to her lol
@@mr.boomer8794 When you purchase a train, airline or bus ticket you agree to a contract of carriage. Amtrak has announcements at every stop that is not a smoke stop to not get off the train and at smoke stops they inform passengers to stay on the station platform to smoke and they must be onboard when the all aboard signal is given. She broke the contract of carriage.
She simply did not understand how things work, that's all. She made a mistake.
I’ve been riding Amtrak whenever I get the chance for many years now and this here is exactly the reason why every time I step off at a smoke/fresh air stop, I always check our scheduled departure time, keep an eye on the clock the whole time but most of all, stay near the train and for me, never wait until the last minute to get back on. But sometimes you still have what can turn out to be close calls. I rode the Empire Builder from Chicago to Portland in July and when we stopped at Havre, MT, my biggest concern for passengers stepping off was the risk of being left behind. When we arrived, I checked our status and saw that we wouldn’t have a whole lot of time at the station but with my desire to get a shot of our locomotives despite being seated in the second to last coach, I decided to do it. I walked practically the entire train to the front, got my photos and started heading back. About halfway, I heard the all aboard call and immediately broke into a sprint all the way back to the coach. As soon as I got back to my seat, huffing and puffing from the sudden run, the train started moving. My theory was proven right, time flies and if you don’t pay attention, you’ll get left behind.
Yes, I remember traveling westbound on the Builder in 2000, and a passenger was left behind in Havre. This was (is?) a common occurrence as the train stopped about a half-mile out of the Havre while the passenger was driven out to the Builder and rejoined the train!! Unlike the subject of this video. It just seems to me that Amtrak is becoming less and less user-friendly! I can certainly understand passenger confusion after trains wait in sidings, experience delays, etc... and then all of a sudden, they are required to be attentive/rush. In other words, it's OK if Amtrak makes mistakes but not the passenger!!
Perhaps would best not pop out to photograph the loco in Europe. The schedules are generally tighter than Amtrak. Possible because passenger usually has president over freight.
Check out Bald and bankrupt Indian train trip, he got out at some stations to buy snacks , water etc and no announcement was made that the train was leaving, they just blew the horn which is I guess the announcement, but bald had to jog back and get on while the train was going 5-8 mph 😅 , the doors are kept open anyways so you can lean way out at 40 mph , Indian trains are different
@@luzmalara5584Each Amtrak train has to maintain their schedule, hence why it only stops for so long at each smoke/stretch break station. The schedule has to be maintained, and Amtrak even clearly has said(back in the day when they printed the national Amtrak timetable guide) that "smoke stops can be shortened or eliminated, if the train is running late". And of course if a certain stop is not announced as a smoke/stretch break(where the train will immediately leave once a train is finished boarding/discharging passengers), do NOT try to step off the train at a stop that isn't a 'smoke break' station.
Note a few smoke stops are done overnight during quiet hours(10pm-7am, when overheard announcements are not made to let passengers sleep), such as Dodge City, KS on Southwest Chief and Carbondale, IL on City of New Orleans. Cleveland is also an overnight smoke stop on Lake Shore Limited and Capitol Limited, and Cincinnati on the Cardinal. Always keep a close eye on the doors during each smoke stop(IF you do step off), so that you aren't left behind. Plus don't be afraid to ask one of the train employees which stop(s) will be a smoke stop, and for how long they will be for.
@BoratWanksta like you, my friend, I've read (and still have copies) the old Amtrak Schedules and have ridden every Amtrak route. I've even ridden pre-amtrak trains. So, I'm aware of the "On board Dynamics" that occur during an Amtrak trip. Again, as I've stated, "Amtrak is becoming less user-friendly!" Yes, there are always "knuckleheads" who do what they want and perhaps deserve to get left behind, but I am talking about honest people trying to follow the rules who get confused. Rules are shouted out over the "PA" and are sometimes even more confusing. (The PA might be out/off in a particular car, and the crew is unaware of it - or like myself deaf - for me, thank the lord, only in my left ear) How did the Santa Fe Railroad, for example, run passenger trains with very few people ever being left behind? All this without a PA. Well, the crews worked their buts off and got to know each passenger in their charge and saw to it that passengers got to their destination with as little interference as possible so that passengers could enjoy their trip. Even the Conductor was required to walk through the entire train once, each tour of duty! Wouldn't that same dedication to each Amtrak passenger still be relevant today? Are the crews truly overworked? Don't get me wrong, your comment is valid, that's one of the reasons, knowing the schedule and the rules, I've never been left behind. Truth is, God has seen that I wasn't left behind a couple of times! Happy travels, Nathan in Chicago 🇺🇲
Happens a lot. In 2015 I was on the Coast Starlight from Los Angeles to Portland. There's a smoke stop at Eugene, and the conductor announced, prior to the stop, to stay close to the train and watch for his signal to re-board. He stressed that, on almost every trip, someone gets left behind. We were at Eugene for about fifteen minutes or so before the "All aboard!" was given. I was in the last coach and noticed an empty seat as I re-boarded and wondered where that guy was. I was looking out the window as we pulled put and saw someone running behind us. The conductor announced over the PA that, sure enough, someone was left in Eugene.
I traveled from CHI to SEA on the Empire a couple years ago. I noticed that when the conductor punched your ticket or whatever he stuck the stub in the slot on the overhead luggage carrier above your head indicating what your stop was so if you happened to be sleep he could awaken you. A nice courtesy I must add. In the middle of the night, I saw a girl running through the car frantically like she might have lost her child. A few minutes later the train came to a slow stop. We were in the middle of nowhere. No town, no lights, no announcement, no nothing. A little time passed and another AMTRAK passed us going in the opposite direction pulled alongside us and stopped.
As I gazed up and down the track between us I noticed a conductor and that girl walking and then getting on the other train. I figured out that she got up from her original seat to go to the club car which is more comfortable and fell asleep so when the conductor saw that she was gone he assumed she made her stop. We just happened to meet the EMPIRE going in the other direction at just the right time and she could make her stop. AMTRAK is strict about their no stopping policy so I thought this was above and beyond service.
Awkward moment for Bob the station manager. For the record the passenger spent the night at a nearby motel & caught the next train the following evening.
She was in good spirits the following evening so while this moment was dramatic she has a fun story to tell in the future.
You can view the ultimate reality show from La Plata 24/7 courtesy of the good people at Virtual Railfan.
I know it for a fact without even being told that Bob the station master assisted with getting her accommodations for the night which would include making sure she was safe and making sure her belongings on the train were taken care of. That is how business is done in La Plata. Great team there.
Bob's a good guy. Had the pleasure of meeting him at virtual fan rail day... most down to earth, friendly group of people there
Screw that station and the chat room people bunch of old people stuck up and don't know nothing about trains
@@bobbyplummer4415 guessing you said something stupid and got banned from chat?
On other Virtual Railfan cameras that are smoke/stretch stops, I've seen close calls where someone almost was left behind by not reboarding when the conductor said 'all aboard'. I have no doubt Virtual Railfan cameras probably have caught at least a few instances(at such break stations) of someone being left behind, before. At Barstow, CA(which is a short smoke stop at least for the eastbound Southwest Chief), I recall one time I saw someone almost left behind there. If it wasn't for one Amtrak employee catching that rider and telling him to reboard, he could've easily been left behind.
Amtrak's version of tough love ... Or you can't fix stupid
Huh? Stupid for getting off a train. All I see is naked greed of Amtrak.
I was on the Carolinian in 2020 and they announced at Raleigh that there was a brief smoke break and said "if you leave this train, then this train will leave you." It is NOT Amtrak's responsibility to babysit you and make sure that you are all on-board and accounted for before proceeding off. It is your responsibility to make sure that you are on board the train when it is time to depart. A good thing to keep in mind that unless the stop is designated as an official smoke break, then assume the train will quickly stop, load and unload, and then depart as soon as they are ready within a couple minutes. You are most likely not going to have time to get off the train to stretch your legs or smoke at most stops. Just some friendly advice from a seasoned traveller.
The Amtrak train doesn't mess around with departure times. You shouldn't get off the train unless it is a scheduled stop for crew change. Even during a scheduled stop you make sure you know the departure time, go get a newspaper or magazine then head immediately back to your seat on the train a few minutes early. The concept of you leaving the train not the train leaving you needs to be taken to heart.
That’s true, any longer and it would piss off the BNSF dispatcher
If you're not on the train before 5 min departure time then you're stuck at the station.
The condutor did not yell anything foul. he said" I asked if you were getting off here,you said yes".
I've Taken many Amtrak long distant trains. The de-train for fresh air/smoke break stops are clearly announced with the warning to stay close to the train and do not enter the stations is given. As soon as soon as new passegers are aboard the conductor announces the departure, you must enter the train and it quickly departs The conductor has no way of knowing who is on the platform is waiting for someone to pick them up or what ever. Heed the warnings!
Right I've been on two the 97 silver metor same thing
This wasn't even a smoke stop. She just got off.
A lot of people don't realize the reasons why a train must keep it's schedule. It's primarily because the tracks are shared and you need to keep your open slot on the tracks. If not, you could get stuck behind other trains causing further delays not only on your train but the other trains as well. This woman clearly chose to get off the train and ignore the conductor. She then realized that she should have listened and then wanted to delay everyone on the train and potentially other trains as a result. Sometimes you have to realize that you made a mistake and own up to it.
Simple rule to follow when taking the train: unless it is a scheduled stop (for things like crew change, leg stretching/walking/smoking opportunity), don't get off the train if it isn't your stop - the train will leave without you
I live in Austria, the Countey with the second best Railway in Europe. Here a Mother got off a High Speed Train to Smoke, left her Baby onbord. Than the train departed without her and Ende in the Next Stop, three hours away
@@heybenjii5544 did she get the baby back????
@@Vxllain Yes, luckily
@@heybenjii5544 That's good to hear, i couldnt imagine what she went through
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One must understand that the conductor is the boss on the train. His orders will be followed to the letter.
And if he fails, he gets fired. Right?
@@tyrese3745 He will if it is serious like he made somebody get killed or made them get hurt badly down that line he will get fire but if he fails to get the tickets or something down that line he will get in trouble
I just watched a video where they stop the train and let people back on, it's just up to the conductor some guys are real pricks
@@barroningram7286 You must self-entitled, just like the left-behind-woman is. The audio at the end of the video is clear enough to hear the conductor stating from the open door-window, "I asked if you were getting off here, you said yes"". Her reply: "I got off for a smoke!". Now, do you want to reevaluate your 'real pricks' comment to be more along the lines of: "Some women can be totally stupid"
La Plata is not a smoke break or stretch stop. It is for picking up and departing passengers. If you listen closely, the conductor said something related to "You said you were getting off," or. "I asked you and you said yes!" Protocol on Amtrak is when a train starts moving, and someone is left behind, the train will not stop for one person. Passenger trains, especially long distance ones, e.g. coast starlight, Texas eagle, southwest chief, are to be on time as much as possible. Also, I need to include this, but if it's a smoke or stretch stop, they announce it, and they specifically tell you to stay next to your car. Luckily, she had her ticket and money in her purse. After this incident, she continued her journey the next train.
That couple she was walking away from the train with, were probably not "her actual friends", but rather some people she was sitting near on the train, and was "chatting with". Note how the couple did not stick around to aid her. That is not what "actual friends" do in a situation like this.
not a smoker stop. that means stay your ass on the train
The description makes no sense because the woman got off the train and walked towards the parking lot, she should have listened for a departure announcement that would have been broadcasted. Also it is not that easy to stop an accelerating train and is very inefficient to do so. It is fully the responsibility of the passenger to get on the train on time. Lastly the audio is so unclear that you can’t even tell if the conductor says anything
That’s why u always check the status and stay close to a conductor and the train
If an announcement is made for you to return back to the train and you don't get back on the train. Remember we did not leave you, you left us. The next train to Los Angeles is 24 hours the next day. Don't miss your train.
The Amtrak staff are very good about advising passengers which stops one is able to exit the train for a breath of fresh air and which stops are quick stops.
After watching this video numerous times, the characteristic engine chug of the General Electric 7 FDL prime mover on those Genesis locomotives as they race away at Full Throttle really gives a nice rather comedic touch to this whole situation.
Shut the hell up
I swear I heard the conductor yell “You Idiot!”
Well, to be fair, she didn't miss it by much!🙂
I’ve taken this exact train several times. They literally announce prior to the stations to not leave the train as the station stops are too short. Totally the passengers fault.
Those asking where she stayed... I am assuming since she walked with friends to their car, they must live nearby so likely with them. But where did they disappear to?
This town has a nice place to stay called Depot Inn & Suites also. Highly unlikely he "yelled" anything foul to her! This was her fault.
As an Amtrak rider your are told to stay onboard if the stop is not yours to stay on board the train .It not a smoke break stop.
Stop and delay an entire train because one person is an idiot? How about, no.
How about instead staying the night at a motel in La Plata and buying a new ticket for the next schedule train the next day? That sounds fair.
Well Amtrak would get delayed anyways
It's not very usual that passengers come too late on the station (at least here in Croatia). Under special circumstance I think it's ethical that engineman stops the train. In Croatia, we have signalman at the bigger stations and if he sees the person is hurrying to catch the train, he makes a combination of sound and hand signal for engineman to stop the train because someone is boarding. This takes few seconds and usually doesn't delay the train at all.
Privateer Bouncher Amtrak would get in trouble with the local government for blocking an intersection.
That lady took a risk and lost. If I had been her, I would have said my goodbyes while still on the train. Or at the very least, ask the conductor if I had time to get off the train temporarily for a minute or two. Long ago before Amtrak when each railroad operated their own passenger trains, my family travelled by train on vacations. My father would give my mother heart attacks at some train stops. If he saw a conductor go into a station for any reason, he would also get off to buy souvenirs. Lucky for him, he never missed the train.
Pretty sure the title should be, “woman misses train”
I saw this happen a week ago. I was rec P097's depature from orlando, as the train picked up speed. However this woman boarded the train as it was moving.
Amtrak runs over a lot of track that they do not own. Therefore the Railroads and Amtrak work hard to keep the trains on time. And if the psgr train is running just a few moments late the train crews will try to make up the time loss so they can get back on time again. If the train gets off schedule then it creates more problems and that will create long waits or even people having to wait a whole day for the next days train to run. The crews do their best to avoid causing unwanted delays and that makes riding on trains a better experience for everyone.
NMsanduneman yeah don't they have to pay the freight companies for being late too? To make up for time they're not supposed to be delaying the other trains
This line sees 60-100 freight trains a day. They don’t have time to linger while Susie Splittail finishes her smoke and poop break.
Namely the Burlington Northern-Santa Fe (BNSF) Railway. This, along with Union Pacific (dubbed "the Great Big Rollin' Railroad"), Canadian National, CP Rail, CSX Transportation and Norfolk Southern have freight trains that need to run on time as well as Amtrak.
There's a motel on the corner of Brown and Lantern, a block off U.S. Route 63, called Depot Inn & Suites. I hoped she stayed there at the place.
And this is what happens when someone doesn’t know how to shut their mouth and get on the train
instead of standing there have your friends drive like bats out of hell to get you to the next station
If you'd like to drive 50 miles lmao
funny. the next stop is Kansas City, 2.5 hours away.
100% the passenger's fault. She could have asked the conductor when the train will be departing, and he would have told her in one minute. She was just casually strolling out, expecting the train to wait for her, like this train was her personal chauffeur. I doubt the train conductor said something foul. They're extremely courteous. Anyway, if the train leaves without you, remember there's nothing more beautiful than watching an Amtrak train roll into the sunset. :)
Not if you're a passenger on it...😂
I took the Southwest Chief a few days ago and, as a railfan and also fan of the La Plata live cam, asked the Conductor for the chance to step off here just to say high to the guys looking the cam, but she was very, i mean VERY strict about it and of course it was a negative answer.
So had to stay on the last car taking pictures. Better than being left behind though.
She has to be, the train can’t stop at that station for a long time.
@@TheSjuris, well, it can, but only if there's some sort of emergency, such a passenger taking ill. Otherwise, freight trains a few miles behind Amtrak may get delayed, possibly leading to other issues, such as crews "dying on the law" far from a regular crew-change point. This in turn creates headaches for the RR companies & their train crews & dispatchers.
@@donaldthomas7070 same can be said about crews for Amtrak. They follow the same rules as everyone else.
We witnessed the opposite scenario 30 years ago in Indianapolis. We had boarded the Cardinal there on our way to Chicago. There was slightly entitled woman in our car helping elderly relatives get settled. She continued her ritual of lifting and hugging, and had no urgency to disembark. Obviously, the aspect turned green and I heard two short bursts of the horn as we began to move. She freaked out and demanded that the train be stopped before clearing Union Station. The conductor had no sympathy, and she was forced to ride all the way to Lafayette which was the next stop. She was not a happy camper. My memory fails me, but I believe that she also had to purchase a one-way ticket.
At 4:56, there's no need to bow for the entertainment you provided, lady passenger, but that was a classy touch!
As a conductor myself, you leave at your own risk, we always say when we blow the whistle get inside the train or else we will leave without you, we aint gonna delay 100s of other people and we announce it
Is it just me or does it strike you that the guy with the Metallica T-shirt was like, “Well, lady, you can stay with me tonight.”
She did something dangerous: never grab the walls of the cars. You might end up being railroad lasagna
Same holds true with aircraft. You get off, expect to be left behind. They wont pull back up to the gate because you went to Starbucks to get a Lattee at the terminal and missed the flight. Get over it, trains and planes have schedules and have to TRY to stick to them.
yep trains planes and buses too. As a bus driver I have a schedule to keep. The bus didnt leave you, you miss the bus.
@@eddieflxible379 and passenger ships.
cruise ships too!
OMG!!! I Watched this LIVE when it happened! The conductor didn't yell anything foul! You can hear the conductor shouting as the trains was leaving, "I asked you if this was your stop and you said yes!" She had to wait 24 hours and then got back on the the next west bound train to continued on. The woman who got off the train was NOT following the rules! They tell you when the stop is a smoke break and you can get off the train for a short while. But the La Plata stop is a drop off/take on passengers and go type stop. No Lounging! Because when they go, they go! And NO backing up! I've watched several Virtual Railfan cams and they NEVER stop once they are going and they NEVER back up to pick up people! But she did get back on the train the next night and continued on. Thank God he had her purse! I don't know where she stayed (I'm not even sure if La Plata has a restaurant or a motel... population 1326 , the closest place is Kirksville, a college town, 14 miles away) but she did have a plastic store bag of, I assume, toiletries.
La Plata has one inn and one Mexican restaurant and that’s about it. They also have a Casey’s and a Dollar General.
When you hear the "toot toot" of the engine's horn, and the little light by the door turns from red to green (that means the brakes have been released) ... you'd better be ON the train ...
J Moore La Plata can’t wait for passengers, they can’t actually block the the road for that.
@@midwestrails8317 Maybe Bob and Amy at the station invited her to stay there until the next day so she could catch that train. Just a guess.
I was on the Empire Builder coming home to Minneapolis from Essex, Montana (Glacier National Park) and I remember the Conductor’s warnings at smoke stops about getting back on the train in time. On the trip to Essex we didn’t leave anyone behind but coming back from Essex, three people were left behind at a couple different stops. I had a really sick feeling for them as they ran after the train but on the other hand they were definitely warned. Even if you don’t smoke those extended stops are lifesavers and if you’re a railfan you get the bonus of a super close-up inspection of the power.
I love the ending, she looks down the tracks......are they backing up??? They musta noticed I wasn't on!!! LOL!!!
Was this video made to make Amtrak look bad? It's her own fault for not being at the station in time before it departed
I know right?!?! It’s not Amtrak’s fault she wanted an entire train to wait for her.
It's ok she can catch the Greyhound in the morning to Garden City and wait 5 hours for the train to get there.😂😂
The lady's fault totally. This was NOT her stop, the conductor asked her to be sure. She got off anyway. Conductor did nothing wrong and in fact it was safer for all ( including passengers ) that the train did not stop, especially in emergency like some armchair railroad clowns wanted them to do. And her friend was not surprised she made this mistake apparently.
If the conductor would have pulled the emergency brake on that coach, He probably would have lost his job. So it was not his fault by all means upon review of this surveillance tape.
If he lost his job, guess what
He can find a new one.
@@FordEscape12345678 Guess,what,She can catch the next train.....in about 12 hours....
Nope. Now I honestly wish he lost his job. He doesn't deserve to be a ticket agent after what he did. Pure Selfish.
@@SPUPRR
Ford Escape And it wouldn’t have been selfish of him to have inconvenienced all of the other passengers for ONE retarded ex-passenger who did the stupidest thing you could have done when traveling by train?
Kinda glad I live in Europe where we have a train every hour from 5 AM to 11 PM.
that's nice but your trains probably are not 2000 mile journeys either
Bob von Buelow US is a lot more spread out especially in the western part.
Some are very often, like the Northeast corridor or between Los Angeles and San Diego, but not for long distance trains like these, because of little passenger traffic. If a passenger gets off, the passenger takes full responsibility. If their luggage is still on the train, Amtrak will find it once it reaches the end of the line. The passenger will get it back, but they'll be walking around in dirty underwear until they do.
I'm pretty sure every country has trains that run between 5am and 11pm. But what about the train from Bulgaria to Poland? Does that run everyday?
They try to stay on schedule.
I remember while in the Navy waiting for the last CN&W passenger train in Kenosha, Wisconsin headed to Great Lakes, Illinois in the early morning hours. An engineer hopped up in a train on a secondary track and pulled up, stopped. I asked him, is this train #...? He said "Yes, I'll be back" and backed up past the switch, pulled over onto the main and went past me and my friend without stopping. The train was accelerating somewhere between 2-5 mph when my friend jumped onto a passenger door threshold so I pulled him off. Those trains normally would get up to 60 mph back then.
My guess is the engineer realized he was running late. We slept in the open, deserted station on wooden benches until the first train in the morning. We had to run from the station back to the barracks to be back in time for muster that day.
When you are late, you reschedule.
Conductor didn't yell anything foul. He said "You said you were getting off, right?" He's dealing with multiple things and doesnt have time to keep track of ONE passenger. She said she was getting off, so he let her off and left, assuming it was her home stop. La Plata is not a scheduled crew change, break, etc, so once you're off, you're off.
wow... there is so much misleading with everything here from the title to the description... Neither the conductor nor Amtrak did anything to be faulted for.
As said it is not a smoke stop. They specifically tell you not to get off the train and or you can and will be left behind. And there are all sorts of rules and regulations against a train stopping and reversing directions like this. Her fault all the way.
It doesn't matter. They should have stopped. They were lucky I wasn't there because I think I would've punched the conductor in the face.
Think ur old enuff to smok
And then you would have been arrested and charged for being a violent sociopath who doesn't know the rules. Great job.
Ford Escape they can’t stay there for a long time, there’s this thing about blocking an intersection that’s gets in the way.
@@FordEscape12345678 it would not be the conductors fault. It's the womans fault
She's going to need a cigarette after that!
Are you old enuff to smok
what foul thing did the conductor yell? I doubt that part of your story.
Wow, this happened so quickly that I had to go back and rewind the video. I'm glad I saw this video because I was told when the train comes to a rest area or to pick people up or let them off, you have 10 minutes to get fresh air. I don't think this lady was off for no more than 2 minutes. So lesson learned when I take my trip next week.
Get a copy of the timetable. If the train is on-time or-perish the thought!-late, assume its dwell time in the station will be no more than scheduled. In most cases, that's 2 to 5 minutes. In some major cities it's longer, but Amtrak takes advantage of the long scheduled waits to get the train back on schedule. IOW, if there's a scheduled 30-minute stop but the train is 10 minutes late, don't expect it to be in the station more than 20 minutes.
Not sure why it says the train left her. We see her get off and halfway to the parking lot and only when the train is leaving does she suddenly decide she didn't want to be off the train. Seems like it's entirely her own fault.
Sorry that's on her. She could have asked about leaving and how much time she had, where I'm sure it wouldn't have been recommended.
The reason is Amtrak is trying to be on time departed because it's always struggled late for the destination such as appointment or events or booked hotels or visiting and many more. It's should have longer platform too instead of moving at each cars at a time.
they're working on it
Amtrak is always late (a piss poor record) so invariably they are always in a hurry to get people on and off as quickly as possible hoping to make up some time. This train was probably already running 2+ hours late at this point.
In this case it was about 18 minutes behind.
Jeff Pratt 18 minutes behind pretty much means they ended up in LA 42 minutes early. Amtrak adds delays into their schedules just like the airlines do. They can’t wait for a long time at that particular station. The local citizens might complain about a street being blocked.
The train did not leave her. She left herself.
My question is why was she walking back into the station? Even though she knew the train was leaving (4:29)
She was a blonde ...
She was a Classic Rock FM DJ
There's no pill to cure stupid. She's strolling off the train, hears it rolling off behind her, then runs back. She's stuck.
Why would you leave the video going that long after the train leaves?
La Plata, Missouri has a Virtual Railfan webcam, for those who want to see movements for all trains(Amtrak, freight trains, etc). And why this camera is on 24/7.
This is stupid. She left the train and it was already moving. If they had to stop the train again for one stupid passenger it would delay everybody else. He could not have "easily stopped the train".
Maybe change the title to "Passenger leaves train and gets left behind..."
Had a really bad headache for a whole day a few years back while riding the train due to pain medication being unavailable on the train, all stores that sell them being well out of walking distance from the stations, and the showers were actually not working so no spraying warn water on my forehead. Still had enough sense to not even try walking to the store.
There's a great big world out there. And it doesn't revolve around you.
Did she ASK the conductor how much time she had?
Alot of people said that the conducter asked if she was gonna leave, and she said yes.
The train waits for no one they have a schedule to keep in keeping that schedule is most priority number one important. I’m sorry lady you lose you have to wait for the next one.
Dont be late.
Interesting how her "friends" proceed to get in their car and drive off after she realizes the train is leaving without her.
Her friends shamed her due to her not realizing the was about to leave.
Amtrak announces several times that it is going to be a quick stop not once but several times. They also announce that it will be a smoking stop. My advice is listen to the announcements especially the horn. So who's fault is it. Not Amtrak the lady that stepped off the train two minutes prior to it leaving.
It was definitely the woman's fault. She messed up. Afterwards, people went out of their way to accommodate her. I don't see a video about that..More click bait.
Well, how about taking the opportunity to inform us as to the resolution to the story, as you seem to be in the know. Your cliff hanging statement is just as annoying as the click bait.
This isn't click bait. Accidents happen. And if you think you wasted 7 minutes and 51 seconds of your time, good for you GoPro Creations. Good for you!
@@eelb53 You're right that comment is just as annoying as clickbaited videos.
I guarantee you that Metallica T-shirt guy did everything humanly possible to get her to come home with him.
He could have radioed the head end to stop, they just started moving so they would not have had to dump the air, granted its lady's fault for getting off at undesignated break stop, but a couple seconds is all it would take to get her back on
dan meyer It would’ve taken longer to if they dumped the air because the pressure would have been needed to be built up again.
Woman: misses the train
Driver: tells her they aren’t picking her up because she was late
This guy: “OmG tHe DrIvEr WaS sO rUdE11!!11!11!1!1!”
In the movies, you would hear a loud warning like, "All Aboard!" or something like, "Last call for..." then at least a minute more of conductor standing outside the train. This lady didn't even leave the platform!!!!! She was in talking-distance of the conductor who seemed to sneak back in and lock the door.
I don't get it. She got off the train and was walking with someone talking to them like she knew them then seen the train moving and ran back and the people she was with continued on. People need to give her a break. She's not stupid, she's not a moron. She made a mistake.
She was bs'ing with the couple while the conductor was announcing "Do not leave the train", instead of paying attention. So it's her TS. Got it?
Shes a moron. They announce DO NOT GET OFF THE TRAIN IF THIS IS NOT YOUR STOP. WE WILL BE LEAVING WITH OR WITHOUT YOU.
She left the train so it's her fault.
How do we know that the conductor yelled something foul at her?
He didn't
If you're late then you are late, there is no need for everybody else to be as well
Who cares if the others were late? The train might have been late regardless. So who really cares? No one is going anywhere important. You get there when you get there.
She didn't get left. She didn't make it in time. Big difference
Although not exactly the same, when I was returning to Seattle from New Orleans, via Los Angeles, i was on the Sunset Limited.i noticed a man a few seats back who was sound asleep when we were leaving San Antonio. He was asleep when we arrived in San Antonio and snoring as we left heading west. As the sun came up, about 7 hours beyond San Antonio going west, the man woke up. He stopped the conductor to ask about his stop of SAN ANTONIO, with a reply of "sir we stopped at San Antonio 7 hours ago". The man was furious with the conductor which actually did no good since the conductor could not go to each passenger, wake them up to advise each person on the train , as to their stop. By this time in the morning , we were getting relatively close to El Paso. I think this is where the man got off of the train. He would have to wait in El Paso for the next east bound train to San Antonio. In this case, the conductor did nothing wrong. I do remember back then, passengers were advised via PA, not to leave the train unless completely getting off the train at your stop. If the La Plata woman got off the train for a smoke, I hope the nicotine fix was worth it.
Lessons learned:
Don’t try to have a smoke break when riding a train
Unless it's a designated smoking stop. La Plata is not one of them. Once all boarding passengers are on, they leave. Even if it means leaving someone behind.
You can during certain station stops, but La Plata, Missouri(almost always, though the train crew can make a rare exception and call additional smoke/stretch stops if the train is early arriving somewhere, they almost never do that) is NOT a smoke/stretch stop. On the message board Amtrak Unlimited, several posters once compiled a guide of all the smoke/stretch stops of each long distance Amtrak train. If you do a google search, you can find this message board thread. The closest smoke stops to La Plata on the Southwest Chief, are Fort Madison, Iowa to the east, and Kansas City to the west.
Actually, the deal is that La Plata, Missouri is NOT a smoke/stretch break. There are stretch/smoke stops at Fort Madison(Iowa) and Kansas City, where you should smoke or stretch. La Plata has NEVER been a stretch stop for the Southwest Chief. It only picks up passengers and drops off passengers, and leaves immediately when that is finished.
Serves her right she was left behind, since she did not listen to the instructions of the train crew that La Plata was not a smoke/stretch stop.
Can that even be called a “station”? It doesn’t even have a platform...
Thats actually why you shouldn’t be taking a smoke break their. It’s a small platform and theirs a street close by that the train blocks.
Yeah they do have a platform lol it may be hard to see. But yeah, it's a pretty short platform
Are you blind? There is clearly a platform there
The fact that the train was already late into the station... if it rolled in say 5 mins early as it sometimes does then fair enough you could get off, but if it's already behind you ought to assume they'll depart ASAP.
I cannot imagine this! This is why I always stay trainside with the conductor if I get off at the station
Should have never left the train
*Accidents happen*
Ford Escape Announcements happen
And the world goes round. She could have been distracted on her phone or something. They really could have let her on real fast. After all, Amtrak will end up being delayed anyway.
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@@FordEscape12345678 Then don’t go on your phone while outside the station if your planning to get back on the train! I’m shocked that there are people as dumb as you on UA-cam.
@@FordEscape12345678 You're not one for accountability, are you.
how did the train leave her behind? She was way back from the platform, mixed in with departing passengers. HER FAULT.
To me it looks like she got off with some other passengers to say bye to them. A comment below said that she said that she was getting off the train but I think her relatives/friends were.
Also this is so different in in Australia in Brisbane, they always have their trains fully within the platform so you can get off the train on your own at any point on the train at your stop.
+more info: Do the conductors do that thing where they look down the platform for anymore oncoming passengers to get on or off? When we use that strat the trains can be there at stations for like 10 seconds minimum lol
Not all trains fit in all stations here.
Some people have to learn things the hard way. I witnessed a woman that thought trains would just wait and wait and wait for her in person. She had ONE STOP to go (about 20 minutes) from Sac to Davis California. ONE STOP. And she unloaded all her crap onto the table. :/ Then at Davis, she sat on the phone and talked while the train was stopped. Then she decided to get up and begin to gather up all her crap that she'd spread out on the table-- and the train began to move. She acted like a victim (of course). At the next stop (Vacaville) we got off, and so did she-- JUST MISSING the train heading back toward Davis. (Another would be coming along that day, probably in an hour or two-- IDK the schedule). Again it was "Are you kidding me?!" out loud. Nope. Not kidding. You screwed up. Nothing you could do about the Vac to Davis train, they decided not to wait for you (probably wise--since she doesn't seem to respect other people's time). It's on you to be smarter next time.
I felt bad for that female passenger, Amtrak should make exceptions if a passenger can't get back on the train on time, what difference does one or two minutes make? It was senseless of the train to leave without that lady
She should've board the train but she talking to strangers.
Something sort of similar like that happened to me before when I was young
So what happened was that I was at Harper's ferry, wv, waiting for the capitol limited #30, I was trying to go to Washington DC, and the train made 1 stop and the conductor told us to go to the back, and it did not make another stop, and left me
It was her stupid decision to get off