I feel like I child waking up on Christmas day to go play with his new toys whenever a new Dorico update drops. These key editor updates are absolutely massive!
The ability to view multiple instruments is a game changer! I use the key editor in play mode, in a specific layout that contains just my string midi sketch (multiple midi regions with a mix of monophonic and polyphonic material) and then selectively copy paste notes to a second window in write mode (with a layout that contains only the blank string staves). This is the workflow I've been dreaming of for quickly condensing midi sketch parts in to 5 voices and is the single reason I'm switching to Dorico when my trial ends!
Hi Guys, again fantastic update! I used the selection editor in my last production to edit my CC and this is an absolute game changer !!!! And the note generation from chord : what a game saver !!!! This is incredible ! Thank you so so so much. You are fantastic !
The key editor has gotten a lot done, especially the scrolling of the window is lighter and the horizontal or vertical size can now be adjusted like from other applications. But there is one thing I'm still missing in Dorico, it would be nice to be able to open the key editor or other areas in the lower half in a separate window, because the note window above it all too quickly becomes too small. To make it easier to work with, everyone may have different opinions, I wish I could work with more than one window.
@@dorico Thanks! That helps a lot, because it doesn't really matter how I can open a separate window. Is it possible to make the lower part of the key editor a little smaller, where the velocity values and others are, without having to close it completely? Apparently there is a minimum height that cannot be undershot, I would like to be able to make it smaller. At the moment I can only disable this lower half.
@@dorico Unfortunately, the lower area in the key editor cannot be reduced very much, it can only be closed or made larger, it is probably not possible to go below a minimum height. The lower half is always not too big for me, it could be a little smaller without having to close it completely.
Fantastic features and design! I’ll be digging into this and finding the new capabilities for months. 6:37 ‘Crosshair’ isn’t the right word here; that’s the term for the + shaped cursor. I would call this a ‘guideline’.
Type in the Jump Bar the name of the command you wish to create an alias for, then follow it with an equals sign (=) and the shortcut you would like to use. (e.g. 'Lock Key Editor to Selection = lk')
One thing I'd really like to see is the capability to use the play mode to change structures of pieces quickly. The GUI is already there, but all it does is show me the data of the tracks. I'd like to be able to select and move regions, to split them at the playhead and duplicate them...etc and see that reflected on the score. This is the primary reason I have to keep going back and forth between softwares and it would be nice to be able to stay in one place the whole time I'm working on something.
@Dorico great stuff! But why did you link the functionality for viewing multiple instruments to the functionality for locking the Key Editor's location in the flow? I'd love to always have multiple instruments displayed without giving up the ability to click in the score and having the Key Editor jump to where I selected.
You can use the 'view multiple instruments' option in the key editor to lock what you are seeing in the key editor while selecting other things in score if that helps?
@@dorico You misunderstood me; let me try again ... Today, I can click on any measure in the score view, and the Key Editor will scroll to show that part of the score. OR... I can have the Key Editor show me all of the instruments in the score at once, with a primary instrument in focus and the rest visible with dimmer colors. Those are both great features. But I can't have both features at the same time, and I don't understand why. I would like to be able to click on any measure in the Score view and have the Key Editor scroll to that same measure in the score, with that instrument highlighted (like "Make Primary"), AND with all other instrument parts visible but dimmed in the Key Editor. As it is, if I'm in "View Multiple Instruments" mode and click on a measure in a score, it will correctly highlight that instrument and measure in the Key Editor if it happens to be on screen, but it won't scroll to it if it's not on screen. I imagine the difficulty here is that frequently, you wouldn't want ALL instruments shown in the Key Editor (maybe you'd filter out percussion, or only show strings, etc), and Dorico wouldn't necessarily know what you want to see if you click on a measure in the score for some filtered-out instrument. I can think of several reasonable ways to approach that; the easiest would be to just treat it like it is today - if the instrument you click on in the Score is one of the instruments currently selected in "View Multiple Instruments" in the Key Editor, then scroll to that measure and make the clicked instrument Primary. Otherwise, do nothing. A cooler approach would be to allow specifying multiple groups of visible instruments in the Key Editor and select the appropriate group when the user clicks on a measure in the score. Depends how clever you want it to be. But regardless of what you do there, it shouldn't be associated with Locking the Key Editor. Lock should just be to prevent the Key Editor from scrolling when a new measure is selected in the Score; it should be orthogonal to whether the Key Editor is configured to show multiple instruments.
Is there a way to transcribe the music played ad libitum? As it is in Finale? Or in Logic you make beat mapping to tell the aplication where is 1, 2, 3, 4 ....
It's for modifying playback information, such as precise velocity values, tweaked note lengths, MIDI continuous controller data, and so on. These are things you sometimes need to do to get VST instruments to play back exactly how you want it to sound, but you don't want those changes to be reflected in the score itself. If you're using Dorico strictly for notation and don't care about optimizing the audio playback, you can safely ignore the Key Editor entirely.
@@topologyrob you probably don't need to key editor much then. It can be useful to tweak note lengths though for better playback of passages, or tweaking the audible dynamics without necessarily changing the written one.
Goodness me, these are fantastic! 10/10 Dorico team.
I feel like I child waking up on Christmas day to go play with his new toys whenever a new Dorico update drops. These key editor updates are absolutely massive!
wow guys you did an incredible work !!! Many many thanks : this is brilliant !
The ability to view multiple instruments is a game changer! I use the key editor in play mode, in a specific layout that contains just my string midi sketch (multiple midi regions with a mix of monophonic and polyphonic material) and then selectively copy paste notes to a second window in write mode (with a layout that contains only the blank string staves). This is the workflow I've been dreaming of for quickly condensing midi sketch parts in to 5 voices and is the single reason I'm switching to Dorico when my trial ends!
Hi Guys, again fantastic update! I used the selection editor in my last production to edit my CC and this is an absolute game changer !!!! And the note generation from chord : what a game saver !!!! This is incredible ! Thank you so so so much. You are fantastic !
The key editor has gotten a lot done, especially the scrolling of the window is lighter and the horizontal or vertical size can now be adjusted like from other applications.
But there is one thing I'm still missing in Dorico, it would be nice to be able to open the key editor or other areas in the lower half in a separate window, because the note window above it all too quickly becomes too small. To make it easier to work with, everyone may have different opinions, I wish I could work with more than one window.
You can open a new window from the Window menu and show the lower zone in it, dragging to make it the full height of the window.
@@dorico Thanks!
That helps a lot, because it doesn't really matter how I can open a separate window.
Is it possible to make the lower part of the key editor a little smaller, where the velocity values and others are, without having to close it completely? Apparently there is a minimum height that cannot be undershot, I would like to be able to make it smaller. At the moment I can only disable this lower half.
@@dorico Maybe it would be an idea for Dorico if you could create, save and call up working environments like in Cubase.
@@dorico Unfortunately, the lower area in the key editor cannot be reduced very much, it can only be closed or made larger, it is probably not possible to go below a minimum height.
The lower half is always not too big for me, it could be a little smaller without having to close it completely.
I've died and gone to Dorico heaven.
Fantastic features and design! I’ll be digging into this and finding the new capabilities for months.
6:37 ‘Crosshair’ isn’t the right word here; that’s the term for the + shaped cursor. I would call this a ‘guideline’.
THANK YOU!!!!!
I wish Cubase key editor is as powerful as this!!!
finally! a way to have full trombone section glisses without having to do each and every one individually
well done Dorico team, hope Cubase midi editor get those features as well 👌
Got it - only for the sync region tool when available
Great update!
How did you make the LK alias?
Type in the Jump Bar the name of the command you wish to create an alias for, then follow it with an equals sign (=) and the shortcut you would like to use. (e.g. 'Lock Key Editor to Selection = lk')
@@dorico Wow, this is PRO!
For MIDI automation, can’t place a start and end node and draw a straight, curved or S-shaped line between them?
Please bring this multiple instrument cc view in cubase!
One thing I'd really like to see is the capability to use the play mode to change structures of pieces quickly. The GUI is already there, but all it does is show me the data of the tracks. I'd like to be able to select and move regions, to split them at the playhead and duplicate them...etc and see that reflected on the score. This is the primary reason I have to keep going back and forth between softwares and it would be nice to be able to stay in one place the whole time I'm working on something.
@Dorico great stuff! But why did you link the functionality for viewing multiple instruments to the functionality for locking the Key Editor's location in the flow? I'd love to always have multiple instruments displayed without giving up the ability to click in the score and having the Key Editor jump to where I selected.
You can use the 'view multiple instruments' option in the key editor to lock what you are seeing in the key editor while selecting other things in score if that helps?
@@dorico You misunderstood me; let me try again ...
Today, I can click on any measure in the score view, and the Key Editor will scroll to show that part of the score.
OR...
I can have the Key Editor show me all of the instruments in the score at once, with a primary instrument in focus and the rest visible with dimmer colors.
Those are both great features. But I can't have both features at the same time, and I don't understand why. I would like to be able to click on any measure in the Score view and have the Key Editor scroll to that same measure in the score, with that instrument highlighted (like "Make Primary"), AND with all other instrument parts visible but dimmed in the Key Editor. As it is, if I'm in "View Multiple Instruments" mode and click on a measure in a score, it will correctly highlight that instrument and measure in the Key Editor if it happens to be on screen, but it won't scroll to it if it's not on screen.
I imagine the difficulty here is that frequently, you wouldn't want ALL instruments shown in the Key Editor (maybe you'd filter out percussion, or only show strings, etc), and Dorico wouldn't necessarily know what you want to see if you click on a measure in the score for some filtered-out instrument. I can think of several reasonable ways to approach that; the easiest would be to just treat it like it is today - if the instrument you click on in the Score is one of the instruments currently selected in "View Multiple Instruments" in the Key Editor, then scroll to that measure and make the clicked instrument Primary. Otherwise, do nothing. A cooler approach would be to allow specifying multiple groups of visible instruments in the Key Editor and select the appropriate group when the user clicks on a measure in the score. Depends how clever you want it to be.
But regardless of what you do there, it shouldn't be associated with Locking the Key Editor. Lock should just be to prevent the Key Editor from scrolling when a new measure is selected in the Score; it should be orthogonal to whether the Key Editor is configured to show multiple instruments.
Is there a way to transcribe the music played ad libitum? As it is in Finale? Or in Logic you make beat mapping to tell the aplication where is 1, 2, 3, 4 ....
Yeah 🎉❤
Which tool does shift-alt 6 select? It seems to do nothing for me
No copy/paste with Cubase ?
Which CC is meant with "dynamic"?
It depends on the sound library you are using. Some instruments use note velocity, some use CC1 or CC11 etc
I'm still struggling to find out what the key editor is actually for? What am I missing?
It's for modifying playback information, such as precise velocity values, tweaked note lengths, MIDI continuous controller data, and so on. These are things you sometimes need to do to get VST instruments to play back exactly how you want it to sound, but you don't want those changes to be reflected in the score itself.
If you're using Dorico strictly for notation and don't care about optimizing the audio playback, you can safely ignore the Key Editor entirely.
@@chrishillery Thanks Chris. Yes, I haven't used the playback - I just leave it to Note Performer
@@topologyrob you probably don't need to key editor much then. It can be useful to tweak note lengths though for better playback of passages, or tweaking the audible dynamics without necessarily changing the written one.
@@dorico Thank you!
Now the only thing missing is more resolution on the editors...