Wasn't aware of its existence but it seems to me that it fills a big gap that Windows didn't offer compared to other GUIs like MacOS, GEM, Amiga WB, Atari TOS..., simply icons for accessing the drives and printers, drag and drop.
I wish I would have known and seen The Computer Chronicles in 2002 when I bought my first microcomputer, [color laser] printer and scanner. I enjoy watching people use computers.
I was 1 yr old in 1991 and at the origin of computers that Windows 3.1 was launched in 1990 Windows applets were astonishingly big to people learning the newest software and how to use them proficiently.
Yeah, to me, "applications" are PC software programs and "apps" are small applications for mobile or embedded devices. But the difference is getting more hazy by the day as mobile apps get more powerful in their functionality and even Microsoft calls their Windows 10 desktop programs "apps".
@@Aranimda no. Pc products have mostly always been called programs especially from mid 90s to like 2010. Phone programs began to be called apps by iPhone. Also app is short for application. Idk how you can't fking realize that and treat it like app and application are two different things
During the early years, I learned that a computer program is software that is used to enable the user to use it with the hardware. An application [program] is a kind of program used to perform a specific task or some tasks, like the bundled business productivity suite of programs. People changed the names of microcomputer hardware and software, just like the English language.
As far as I am concerned, it is bad that I cannot use Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Office XP Professional. My first computer caught a dead motherboard several times from 2002 until 2017. Now I have a different brand Windows microcomputer with Microsoft Windows 11 Professional, running Microsoft Office 2021, and I feel not to look backward anymore.
12:55 -- My dad had that same monitor! It was a Zenith flat screen CRT monitor from 1988, which was very unusual back then. Flat screen CRTs didn't really become normal until around the late 90s/early 2000s. That monitor was a heavy son-of-a-bitch. It was 14" but it seemed to weigh as much as a 24" monitor...
jkadoodle Because they heard of it and were intrigued and wanted to see what it was all about. They wanted her to perfect it because they wanted to send it out to the whole company.
I had bought my Pentium MMX Windows 95 PC in 1997 and I had Microsoft Office 97 (e.g. MS Word 97, MS Publisher 97, MS Excell 97) installed. But this earlier edition of Windows 3.1 one had to buy each application tools and software separately.
@@Play-jv3oi Wow... I remember communion. My Papa (Grandpa) would buy the juice for the communion I think. I liked the gold-colored trays with the tiny cups in them. And our Church had actual *bread*. :O He died shortly before I turned 10... To this day, I know he watches over me.... :D God bless you, my friend. :)
@@blackneos940 My Granma Died when you were born, right after my first communion. and The person I loved the most My grandpa died 11 years after you were born. 2002. I remember him all the time. my dear Grandpa, so I understand you
Look at how warped those windows are on those CRT monitors. Nice CRT monitors didn't come about until those expensive Sony Trinitrons and the professional Hitachi Superscans. Now for just a few hundred dollars we buy LCD monitors with superb displays.
When they show the close ups, those cameras aren't aimed at monitors (unless you can see the monitors bezel). Usually back then they'd use a CRT based projector onto a matte screen and film off that in a dark room (connected by a video splitter). This allows good contrast while filming it, and also prevents moire patterns from a shadow mask, as the projectors back then were 3 separate black and white CRT's colored by gels. The monitors themselves could be just fine, as is a lot of my 80's computer monitors with great geometry.
Yea, screen display technology change has been huge. Those large screen CRTs were also super heavy and had huge physical space requirements. They also got hot and the cheap or older ones would give off high frequency pitches over time.
Imagine, if you will, a guest on the show that Stewart doesn’t feel the overwhelming urge to cut short, and talk over, time and time again. That guest, simply does not exist.
I am starting to think this use of "apps" is some kind of Mandela effect. I started using computers in the early 90s and i NEVER heard anyone use that expression. They were programs...ALWAYS programs. but as i look back now it actually seemed using "application" were not that uncommon at all? Maybe it was just around me then huh? I never heard anyone using "app" or "application" until those god damn smartphones came along....
wrong actually, if you were addicted to downloading warez on a 56k dialup like i was, u would know that warez = gamez & appz... i used appz/apps ever since then
@@Psidawg Now that you mention it i actually do remember seing "appz" with z being used back then. I guess its just one of those things the memory aint bothering to keep track of.
I also don't remember using apps although I was born in 1998 so I'm a 2000s kid lol. Anyway, most of my computer teachers then use the term program rather than apps.
Or this even, take a look at the top left corner of the screen. osnews.com/img/24882/apps.PNG I think that easily prove's your error, and that the title is "obviously" correct.
@Andrew Tarrant The official title of this episode was "Windows applications". Check the title screen at the beginning. So the UA-cam title is clearly wrong.
It was a common abbreviation -- I remember using it all the time when chatting with other computer users on local BBSes. We abbreviated a lot of things to make typing quicker.
Actually they did. Here's "Apps" being used in an old program from the mid 80's: osnews.com/img/24882/apps.PNG Checkmate. Also, Apple was doing it with MacApp back in '85 as well.
Sure we did. We abbreviated everything on early computer BBSes, and later, on Usenet bulletin boards and IRC chat networks. Maybe it wasn't in the popular mainstream lexicon yet, but computers weren't as widely used back then either.
23 years from this date and i still love watching it... maaan
do you love watching it 30 years from this date? :-)
@@teodorfon8159 yup
@@TheManubarcafan see you in 10 years ;-D
@@teodorfon8159 See you in ♾️ years.
Remember when we referred to them as applications, programs, software, executables, etc. Now everything is an "app"
"Pop" goes the weasel. Those application programs seem to be like electronic bubble gum in smartphones and tablet computers.
Yes, I do remember.
Watching episodes from 1988-89 to this is insane. Night and day differences and feels much more like today
If any of y’all are interested in knowing more about Norton Desktop from this era, Cathode Ray Dude did a really comprehensive video that covered it.
Norton Desktop seems to have been the inspiration for a lot of other things including newer versions of Windows.
I thought exactly the same thing!
Steve Jobs did say Microsoft had no original ideas 😂
Wasn't aware of its existence but it seems to me that it fills a big gap that Windows didn't offer compared to other GUIs like MacOS, GEM, Amiga WB, Atari TOS..., simply icons for accessing the drives and printers, drag and drop.
Now I know that Microsoft was not the forerunner in the development of Windows application programs.
No Norton desktop is just a Mac clone.
Love watching these videos, takes me back to my teens.
That is a very good question. That question is a "hit."
I wish I would have known and seen The Computer Chronicles in 2002 when I bought my first microcomputer, [color laser] printer and scanner. I enjoy watching people use computers.
Maria looks stunning here. Her hair and blouse go so well together
I like how they had a Lotus rep and WordPerfect rep face-off. That would never happen today.
I was 1 yr old in 1991 and at the origin of computers that Windows 3.1 was launched in 1990 Windows applets were astonishingly big to people learning the newest software and how to use them proficiently.
Borland VCL was one of the most amazing framework ever existing
"Lexmark" is apparently pronounced "Lemarx"
Le' Marx, it's French lol
Karl Marx's favourite printer! 😅
Windows Apps? Thought they were called Applications back then.
Yeah, to me, "applications" are PC software programs and "apps" are small applications for mobile or embedded devices.
But the difference is getting more hazy by the day as mobile apps get more powerful in their functionality and even Microsoft calls their Windows 10 desktop programs "apps".
Probably just an abbreviation due to space limitations.
@@Aranimda no. Pc products have mostly always been called programs especially from mid 90s to like 2010. Phone programs began to be called apps by iPhone. Also app is short for application. Idk how you can't fking realize that and treat it like app and application are two different things
they were. ive tried to remember if i heard or called them apps back then. cant remember for sure one way or the other but i lean toward not.
During the early years, I learned that a computer program is software that is used to enable the user to use it with the hardware. An application [program] is a kind of program used to perform a specific task or some tasks, like the bundled business productivity suite of programs. People changed the names of microcomputer hardware and software, just like the English language.
Guis in 1991?, in 1998 I still used ms-dos, netware 3.12 and lotus 123 for dos.😅
As far as I am concerned, it is bad that I cannot use Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Office XP Professional. My first computer caught a dead motherboard several times from 2002 until 2017. Now I have a different brand Windows microcomputer with Microsoft Windows 11 Professional, running Microsoft Office 2021, and I feel not to look backward anymore.
Norton desktop!!! WOW. Actually feel ice missed out not knowing about this
25:03 Moment of silence for Chips Company
This is constant reminder of how cool the 80s was ❤️
90s
12:55 -- My dad had that same monitor! It was a Zenith flat screen CRT monitor from 1988, which was very unusual back then. Flat screen CRTs didn't really become normal until around the late 90s/early 2000s. That monitor was a heavy son-of-a-bitch. It was 14" but it seemed to weigh as much as a 24" monitor...
😃
12:58 - That desk would drive me crazy...
"It never ceases to boggle the mind."
At 11:20 "...I'm able to Slow Up or Speed Down..."
Did that ever catch on...?
Imagine a time thinking these systems were super fast.
It's interesting that Charles Schwab VPs found it important that they review that woman's trivia game before she displayed it at their booth
jkadoodle Because they heard of it and were intrigued and wanted to see what it was all about. They wanted her to perfect it because they wanted to send it out to the whole company.
@@askhowiknow5527 Indeed. Not everything is "da patriarchy."
25:57 - :"Lemarks"?
statikreg I thought I misheard at first, but no. Le Marks :)
lol
Is Lexmark pronounced Le'mark? Have I been pronouncing it incorrectly for the past 25 years???????? MIND BLOWN
She's dyslexic, but she's KO now 😆
@@invis648 Its more Maria Gabriel can't pronounce her x's I noticed it in some other words she tries to say like Macintax becomes Macintay
Love seeing AfterDark in these top ten lists.
Norton Desktop features became much of the features of Windows 95. :)
That's just wrong
Another Microsoft Tale: How we killed Lotus 1-2-3
Lotus and Wordperfect were waaay too slow to adapt and opened the door.
I had bought my Pentium MMX Windows 95 PC in 1997 and I had Microsoft Office 97 (e.g. MS Word 97, MS Publisher 97, MS Excell 97) installed. But this earlier edition of Windows 3.1 one had to buy each application tools and software separately.
6:27 so Microsoft cloned Norton Desktop from Win95 to WinVista
I was only about 3 months old at the time of this episode. :)
I was 10 Year doing my first communion brother
@@Play-jv3oi Wow... I remember communion. My Papa (Grandpa) would buy the juice for the communion I think. I liked the gold-colored trays with the tiny cups in them. And our Church had actual *bread*. :O He died shortly before I turned 10... To this day, I know he watches over me.... :D God bless you, my friend. :)
@@blackneos940 My Granma Died when you were born, right after my first communion. and The person I loved the most My grandpa died 11 years after you were born. 2002. I remember him all the time. my dear Grandpa, so I understand you
I like your videos! Thank you! From Costa Rica.
Hot damn 1991 customization of toolbars!
That Lotus 123 app looks pretty capable even today. Did it inspire Excel or not?
Excel had been available on Mac for about 2 years at this time, perhaps even longer.
Maria Gabriel always says her last name really weird.
It's like she doesn't know how to pronounce here own name Gabe____Real
I'm glad i'm not the only one 🤣
I have always been amazed how they managed to create such cool apps for such a crappy and limited OS 16-bit Windows 3.x was.
9:05 I wanna see the data from the Lehmann Brothers in 2008!!! Just to check if Microsoft Money marks the Minus-Area in RED!
I never thought I could cry seeing norton desktop :)
Look at how warped those windows are on those CRT monitors.
Nice CRT monitors didn't come about until those expensive Sony Trinitrons and the professional Hitachi Superscans.
Now for just a few hundred dollars we buy LCD monitors with superb displays.
When they show the close ups, those cameras aren't aimed at monitors (unless you can see the monitors bezel). Usually back then they'd use a CRT based projector onto a matte screen and film off that in a dark room (connected by a video splitter). This allows good contrast while filming it, and also prevents moire patterns from a shadow mask, as the projectors back then were 3 separate black and white CRT's colored by gels. The monitors themselves could be just fine, as is a lot of my 80's computer monitors with great geometry.
LOL, The Computer Chronicles wasn't soo fancy. These are just monitored closeups.
Yea, screen display technology change has been huge. Those large screen CRTs were also super heavy and had huge physical space requirements. They also got hot and the cheap or older ones would give off high frequency pitches over time.
18:56 And for some time, it looked almost exactly like this in Excel
28:00 first aurora wallpaper before Windows Longhorn : D
Hilarious spreadsheet. In the end, recycling certain things really isn’t worth it.
Uhh.. I think Windows 3 is actually easier for people than Windows 10.
I'll say no after having agonizing memories of trying to get trumpet winsock configured and workable just to get online.
13:13 Стюарт Димон прям доставил)
L'mark? We say lex Mark.
12:29 Finished document? NO The lag is so painful, even for the time. LOL
13:52 Tires screeching
Imagine, if you will, a guest on the show that Stewart doesn’t feel the overwhelming urge to cut short, and talk over, time and time again. That guest, simply does not exist.
The Chief had one job: to keep marketing nerds on task.
Year 1991: when the lots of icon was something 17:55
Is that a C.A.D. combover?
im maria ga.... briel
I am starting to think this use of "apps" is some kind of Mandela effect. I started using computers in the early 90s and i NEVER heard anyone use that expression. They were programs...ALWAYS programs. but as i look back now it actually seemed using "application" were not that uncommon at all? Maybe it was just around me then huh? I never heard anyone using "app" or "application" until those god damn smartphones came along....
wrong actually, if you were addicted to downloading warez on a 56k dialup like i was, u would know that warez = gamez & appz... i used appz/apps ever since then
@@Psidawg Now that you mention it i actually do remember seing "appz" with z being used back then. I guess its just one of those things the memory aint bothering to keep track of.
I also don't remember using apps although I was born in 1998 so I'm a 2000s kid lol. Anyway, most of my computer teachers then use the term program rather than apps.
but can it run reversi?
When there was better cross app integration 30 years ago than today. OLE is dead and never existed in Apple and Linux world. So sad.
Maria Gaabrial is cute :) QC
was*
PG & E company's future vision will surely dark due to Visual Basic
"It's a Federal offense to copy Software." Inb4 Open Source. :>
To be fair, PD software existed before open-source, so it's not like there was never non-commercial software before open-source came to be.
@@jesuszamora6949 Ah yes, you're right about that. :) Sorry I missed your reply.... :)
The title is wrong. "App" wasn't a word in 1991. Obviously the correct title is "Windows applications".
Then explain how Apple used it back in '85? ;) Hate to say it, but you are actually wrong on that. We always called them "app's" back then.
Or this even, take a look at the top left corner of the screen. osnews.com/img/24882/apps.PNG
I think that easily prove's your error, and that the title is "obviously" correct.
If you're correct, it was only used by a fraction of a percent of computer users.
@Andrew Tarrant The official title of this episode was "Windows applications". Check the title screen at the beginning. So the UA-cam title is clearly wrong.
It was a common abbreviation -- I remember using it all the time when chatting with other computer users on local BBSes. We abbreviated a lot of things to make typing quicker.
640k aughta be enough for anybody, yeah right!
lamarks instead of lexmark
10:39 how slow is that pc
no one said app in 1991
Actually they did. Here's "Apps" being used in an old program from the mid 80's: osnews.com/img/24882/apps.PNG
Checkmate. Also, Apple was doing it with MacApp back in '85 as well.
I was there, calling it apps back then before it was "the thing to say".
Sure we did. We abbreviated everything on early computer BBSes, and later, on Usenet bulletin boards and IRC chat networks.
Maybe it wasn't in the popular mainstream lexicon yet, but computers weren't as widely used back then either.
ua-cam.com/video/Q7AQVdmnZi4/v-deo.html There is a folder right there in the bottom left called "Windows Apps" in this very episode.
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Viagra, don't copy that floppy