I don't know, but I senced something weird at her death time : her 9 years old brother... I saw news at that time that her 9 year old brother used to watch porno, and that he was jealous of his beautiful little sister ! It would be terrible, because they lose their daughter, then they will lose their only son by that last marriage!
@@MoonLight-nb2vg Marriage? I wouldn't put too much stock into whatever sensationalized stories you saw on the news at the time. It's so wrong that they'd be reporting on a 9-year-old's sexuality too.... I know when I was a little boy, in those pre-internet days, I moved heaven and earth to locate and acquire porno magazines or videos.... crawled thru bookstore dumpsters, thru magazines with the covers torn off for refund, looking for any nudie mags.... once or twice I found some man's stash in a shed or garage or basement and snuck smth out
@@MoonLight-nb2vg omg lovey, you must watch porn shows to have 'heard' that Garbage. FYI - to save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 3 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
This is usually the case, especially throughout history. Sad... but I don't think anyone escapes justice, not really. I don't want to get into it too too deeply, but I think we judge our own selves, from a vantage point of having a bit more of the picture, but still subject to delusion, after death. I think just cause and effect (causality, karma, as a functional law, just part of how things work) pushes people to punish themselves when punishment is due. Maybe that comes in the form of being resurrected as farm animals a few thousand times, maybe it means being born into tortured human lives.... but I don't think anybody escapes punishment, for anything.
Maybe...just maybe when John dies the truth may come out..I wonder if Burke ever went under hypnosis to see if he has any hidden memories of that night/morning...
This interview was recorded in 2021. Its 2024 , hoping someone has come up w the money to pay for the DNA test. I am sure that if the family offers to pay for these test a cash strapped police dept wont say no.! Seems to me that the half brother is not doing a good job in establishing a good line of co.mmunications w the police dept - if he had he would have a better understanding of the hold-up.
@@NN-sj5uv The family can not pay for items to be tested that belong to the BPD as that would be a conflict of interest to say the least & highly Illegal actual. The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re & on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. It seems that You are not doing a good job of understanding a damn thing.
@@Think-dont-believethat incompetent female cop was on site and allowed the father to “look” around , and he picked up Bonet! I still feel the dad allowed a cult member in the house…I feel the dad is behind it . They had a Christmas party at home
Cee Cee Moore, Parabon Chief Genetic Genealogist DNA expert at Nanolabs; a Virginia-based DNA tech firm, claims she has access to cutting edge technology that could potentially solve the JonBenet Ramsey cold case within hours. The Ramsey family, as well as the late Detective Lou Smit's family (who have offered to pay for testing through GoFundMe donations), has petitioned the Boulder Police Department to allow an independent agency to run testing. One has to certainly ask themselves why BPD has refused advanced DNA testing to be performed, as well as all offers to help solve this cold case.
It's not just justice for Johnbenet, it's justice for Patty & the whole family who bore the stress, suspicion & accusations since the day it happened! ( There's no excuse for the Boulder PD not to investigate this! What are they hiding? )
John and Patsy's lawyers interfered heavily with the investigation of the case. The grand jury did actually vote to indict both Patsy and John for neglect and child endangerment. The D.A. chose not to prosecute. The grand jury likely saw more evidence than we have seen, even after all these years. John and Patsy constantly dogged the Boulder PD, yet didn't cooperate with investigation. They wanted them to investigate an intruder theory, period. They didn't seem to think they needed to help the PD eliminate themselves as suspects. If you pay attention, you might see John as misdirecting the attention from certain things and putting other evidence under their noses for them to discover from day one of the crime scene through present.
The police failed in this case the house should have been completely closed off to everyone except law enforcement. There’s no excuse the police failed and made serious mistakes
I recently listened to a UA-cam video detailing a 93-year-old cold case which was solved using the techniques mentioned in his video. I am at a loss to understand why this case is not solved yet. It almost makes me wonder if the police aren't protecting somebody.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case. The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key. The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic. The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online. What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen. This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement. The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours. There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all. The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour. And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues.
Why can't they do the newer DNA Geneology testing. If they have DNA they can link it to relatives and find the person, like they did with the 4 college students that were murdered. What is holding this up? This is crazy,
They Could, But the Boulder PD will Not. "Step Off' the evidence to have tested through Familial DNA Testing 🤬 They claim they are waiting for the technology to advance even more, but it is beginning to appear they really just do Not want this case to be solved. It Will make them Look Real Bad and probably open them up to some pretty major lawsuits from the family.
@@Livindaybyday There is a Fairly Well-Known But Rarely Spoken of Suspect in This Case named Sandra Henderson, who had a Biological Son & Daughter-In-Law that worked Closely with the Boulder Police Department. I Believe this ties back to them, He was Head of the Emergency Medical Response at that time and was the one that sent emergency services to the house that Day (He later became Very successful in the computer technology industry). His wife was an Officer at the University of CO Boulder at that time and later went to work For the Boulder Police Dept. (But Nothing Suspicious About That 🙄).
@@onesolvedmystery2274 You have Zero evidence of any type to back up your accusations against this family so just Stop. BTW - Arndt called for an ambulance in the Afternoon. Doh.
@@bethryan9077 Once Again, Why Are YOU SO Protective of the Henderson Family? Particularly when I am stating Facts About Them (That I Can & Have Backed Up) & YES, Sandra Henderson's daughter-in-law WAS a Police Officer for the University of CO Boulder At the time of the crime & Later went to work as a Spokesperson for the Boulder Police Department (While Police Chief Mark Beckner was in office). YOU May Not Like It, But Those Are Facts !!!
I have ZERO confidence in the Boulder Police Department. They royally screwed this investigation from day ONE and immediately got TUNNEL VISION on the Dad and Mom being the perpetrators! Per a documentary some years ago, a nearly identical crime had occurred a few weeks before and a few miles away in a similar neighborhood, but the parents woke up and fought the assailant off. Police ignored that occurrence and continued to hound the Ramseys. In this murder case, the Police Dept was short sighted and awful in every aspect of how this was handled. The City of Boulder should demand that any and ALL DNA techniques should be used to solve this horrible crime and they should pay whatever it costs to do so since the BPD BOTCHED this case for YEARS! This family has been put through hell and I feel so bad for them for their loss and for the way they were treated for so many years. It's horrific and so so sad. I pray the case gets solved and the perpetrator becomes known and receives as much justice as is possible.
It was a few blocks away wasn’t it? Not a few miles away. Absolutely the DNA techniques could solve this case but the Boulder PD won’t release the evidence to have it tested. I don’t know why the Governor can’t force them to release it. Or at the very least send it off for testing for the Ramsey family. Especially since Mr Ramsey has offered to pay for the actual testing out of his pocket!
Boulder is EXTREMELY liberal. Talk in the streets was that satanism and drugs were rampant. Many Coloradans don't step foot in that city. Rich, liberal, selfish reputation.
I grew up on a large estate with a long driveway. We were flanked by smaller homes, many many huge trees, and were insulated from certain loud sounds but could hear others speaking in a neighbor’s home farther away from others. Sound travels and deflects in very odd and unpredictable ways.
What point are you making as it relates to this child's killer? Did you hear something the authorities need to hear about This child's killer needs to be caught so that her father can have some closure and peace.
Depends on the landscape, like what country folks call a holler living at the bottom around big hills. they could communicate with others that's around the area and hear someone pulling in on their road a mile away.
I'm retired law enforcement. I just went to court on a 1990 cold case homicide that was solved by genetic genealogy and San Diego is solving murder cases from the 1960s with the same technology. May justice prevail for JonBenet.
I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING SOMEONE CAN DO TO TRACK IT LIKE ... "DENISE DAILEY" SAID ..🔴 LETS SEE WHO EVER IT WAS , WAS AFTER PENNING ON THE RAMSEY'S ... LETS SEE THEY PUT PATSY "IN HER GRAVE" .. ! BROKE JOHN RAMSY$$$$ TRYING TO SOLVE THE CASE ..🔴 TRIED TO PEN IT ON HER 9 Y.O. BROTHER ..🔴 JOHN RAMSEY REMARRIED BUT STILL BROKE ...STEP BROTHER TRYING TO DO WHAT HE CAN DO .. EVERY WAY THEY TURN ITS A (HUGE BLOCK) THERE🔴 """ AND THE *BLOCK IS (ALWAY'S) THE ... *POLICE *DEPARTMENT🔚🔴 WHO EVER IT IS.... [ STILL STAY'S ... FOCUSSED] ON THIS CASE ON ANY THING THEY CAN READ ON JONBEN'T RAMSEY CASE ...LIKE READING TO SEE IF ANYONE IS CLOSE TO SOLVING THIS CASE ...I MEAN THIS PERSON IS NOT ONLY A *PEDOPHILE BUT VERY *EVIL AND ...A (SATAN ---- WORSHIPER)...DONT BELIEVE IN GOD ..! COULDNT ...🔴 I PRAY THAT THEY FIND THEM .. OR HIM !!
WHAT IF THEY TOOK UP A PITCHIEN HOW EVER YOU SPELL THE DAG GUM THING ...WHERE MILLION'S SIGN IT ..WOULD THAT MAKE THEM RUN THE TOUCH DNA ... ..⁉️( *ANYONE, YOUR THOUGHT'S.)
As a Ramsey this case has always made me so angry . Ive watched over my daughters as closely as I can because of it . I pray the murderer is brought to justice.
Lots of the fooltube videos are old, for those who don't know any better I suppose, like the new generations. This case is still big business, meaning $$.
Mr. Ramsey was recently on 20/20 Australia with information about the DNA testing available to them that they absolutely are able to do and can do yet as of a few months ago, Boulder refused to give them, yet again the DNA, not run the testing. Mr. Ramsey’s donations would pay for it. I can’t remember, it may have been 60 minutes Australia but it is on UA-cam. He (OZ, is just bringing it back into the public’s eyes in the US). I as a parent would never trust the Police or the Media in the US again after such a botched investigation!
This is a video from 2021, so old info. Dr Oz & his stick, several aspects that were still incorrect. FYI - last December a cold case team was put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from both unknown males is being re-analysed with the Advanced forensic methods & untested evidence items are being allowed to be sent away for same. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
I wonder if the reason the Colorado police will not solve the case is because they know it was done by one of their own and they are protecting the officer and their own reputation
I wonder if there was DNA IN the guest room, perhaps closet or under bed. I believe that's where he was when the family came home. He was Already inside
@@angie-kbm There IS Additional DNA (to that found on her & her clothing) That was Found Somewhere in that Basement that is known as DNA-X, It is Briefly mentioned in the Chris Wolf vs. Ramsey Lawsuit. I Personally Believe it is likely 💩 left in the basement toilet, as the authorities are known to have tore that toilet & plumbing up & they asked Patsy a Lot about the kid's flushing habits. But Nobody (In the Public, at least) Really Knows What DNA-X IS or Where Exactly in that basement it was found. 🤔
Thank you for pointing out this cold case....Cindy, John and Brother aswell as Dr. Oz you give me hope in the solving of this case and the reason why it is pushed under the rug. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I can't understand why this hasn't been done already! That poor family have suffered so much and that poor little princess deserves justice and the animal that took her life should be held accountable for his actions.
@@rsdenimblues8342 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
We the People should write letters and make phone calls to the Boulder Police Department and to the city government of Boulder asking them to solve this case, and we should not cease until they do so!
This is a video from 2021. FYI - Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before.
@@lindalee834 Because Boulder PD Has Something/Someone To Hide. If This Case Is Ever Solved (Which I Doubt They Will Allow) It Will Make Them Look Real Bad.
This case should of been solved years ago. This family has suffered enough. I still feel this case was messed up to protect someone. JonBenet needs Justice.
I'd sue the Colorado PD for making assumptions rather than actually performing a thorough investigation. Additionally the police allowed friends of the Ramsey's contaminating the forensics of the death scenes and failure to examine ALL ROOMS OF THE HOUSE and basement.
The acts of torture & then the death scenes were in the basement - laundry room, boiler room & the body was placed in the cellar, so the contamination issue from any friends, wasn't. The perps took JB from her bed, no-one went in there, only a couple of cops who had a quick look early that morning then it was cordoned off. The friends were in the den & sunroom actually. Fleet White went looking for JB when he got there because he said his daughter went missing x long before this & he'd found her under her bed, so, he was the only friend who went wandering anywhere.
@@bethryan9077was forensics done in all those areas? There would have been lots of the perpetrator's DNA around including on JonBenet's bed sheets where she was picked up out of the bed.
@@lornocford6482 I wasn't there when forensic people did whatever through the whole house & basement plus outside, including the garage. I sent you a narrative earlier that included the fact that fibres from the frayed ends of that cord were found on her pillow & sheet, as on the forensic list. There was more like the beaver hair on JB's hands, fibres from a blue cloth where blood was wiped from her thighs, an auxiliary hair from blonde person on one of the white blankets but haven't sourced confirmation yet whether that was a pubic hair or not, multi fibres & colours on the sticky side of the Duck tape as the perps used that to hold the battery pack in place after one dropped it when out hiking. The story still that there were red fibres & off Patsy's sweater on that tape, but Not true. I put away my notes a while ago so can't think what else, as to the bits & pieces. The Hi-Tec shoe print that was on the white mould in the cellar near her body - that was said to be a print from a boot for a long time. Another different shoe print across from that. A palm print on the back of the cellar door that was never identified. The basement had been painted about 1 year prior. The black & white photo of when Patsy won Miss West Virginia that they stuck on the wall in the laundry basement over the phone - the photo being there is forensics too. That photo is prevalent in a lot of videos because of a screen shot off the cops' video footage. The chunks of pineapple that they put in the leftover icing is forensics because it had to be compared to what was in her intestinal system, which is also forensics. The slithers of wood from the paintbrush handle inside the vagina is forensics. It's a very long list actually. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from the 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from the 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
If Boulder didn't have the experience or knowledge to pursue the case because of lack of experience they should have called in the state or the FBI for assistance. Even back then the FBI did great lab work no one else could do. They wanted it all to themselves and didn't have enough knowledge to handle it. Now's the time to get it done.
They decided a long time ago that the parents was guilty and didn’t investigate any leads that didn’t fit their story. This happens in cases every day. The police and the public decides that parents of missing or murdered children are guilty on a hunch. Because they don’t act/react the way the public thinks someone in this situation should act/react. (Which is interesting especially because very few people have actually been in this situation) And that means the investigation becomes biased from the beginning. In a lot of cases parents are being called murderers, they are being harassed, threatened by people who have no knowledge about the investigation or the leads. Right now for example in the Sebastian Rogers case. And sometimes yes the investigation shows that the parents are guilty BUT sometimes they are not. But at that time their reputation is for ever destroyed and they can never escape the rumors and all the treads on social media calling them a murderer. Thankfully we don’t have this issue where I live. In my country police don’t share information about a case before someone is arrested. Police don’t hold one press conference after another sharing information with the public (only on rare occasions and in really special cases) we don’t have “body language experts” watching interviews whit parents/relatives/suspects and making judgments. Media doesn’t show pictures of suspects/ someone charged with a crime before they have been found guilty. In USA there are no such thing as innocent until being proven guilty because the media and the public has already . found you guilty without any form of proof. You are more or less sentenced, you will never be fully cleared. Yes these are people we se on our screens, but they are ordinary people just like you and me. Imagine if this was you and your family. Imagine you or your family members being called murderers and being harassed…
VERY TRUE, Fortunately there were Numerous Eyewitness Accounts though. Multiple neighbors reported seeing suspicious: people, vehicles, and lights on & off that evening that they had never seen before. Mr Ramsey even saw a suspicious young "striking couple from the east" at both his church (St John's Episcopal) & Pasta Jay's restaurant afterward on Christmas Eve Night (the Male of which, I personally believe to be responsible for committing this heinous crime).
@onesolvedmystery2274 have you watched all the interviews..in one he stated it was broken and hadn't worked for a while..like many other times he changed the narrative..time and time again..take some time and watch every one you can find..you will see
ASTOUNDING! The DNA has not been submitted for geneology testing?? wth?? Several months ago John Ramsey himself said that it had been submitted. And the Boulder PD? What is their problem? Can't the State AG compel them to comply with requests on this case? There is NO EXCUSE for not having solved this crime; not with the advances in DNA/Geneology/Familial testing that now exist!
He did not say that! Quit spreading rumors. He’s been saying forever now that he WANTS it tested, has begged the PD, the mayor, the governor, etc……he doesn’t have the evidence! Boulder PD has it and they’re not giving it up! PERIOD!
To add to the endless multi layered aspects of confusion about this case, this video is from 2021. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally.
This a video from 2021, John Andrew said that but it's easy to have missed it. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from the 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like xyz officers from before.
Can you provide any links on this information? I'm not disputing you at all but I've been following this case since it happened and I've never come across the information on the DNA being processed. I did know about the cold case team but nothing on results. And from those results, is there tracing going on via geneology/famililal DNA? @@bethryan9077
I read that a taser was used on the child. Tasers were new to Law Enforcement at that time, so I have to wonder if anyone has thought to investigate all Law Enforcement working, or living in the area?
Not check in the area maybe at that Xmas party the night of.. The parents had friends in high places and had many connections so you know if those type of people were at that Xmas party I'm sure there was a few cop friends there also that night! That would be interesting to see that invite list.
A nine year old boy does not have the wherewithal to break a window and sit a suitcase in front of it. He was already in the house. That made no sense…the Boulder police should be ashamed of themselves.
well he would have had the strength to hit his sister over the head with a flashlight, he had already hit her with a golf club months earlier and believe me 9 year old boys do have a lot of strength, he used to smear his sh*t all over Jonbenet's toys and sweets, he was obviously insanely jealous of her. The case and smashed window was probably staged by the parents, they had already lost their daughter and didn't want to lose their son too. Really bad karma to Burke Ramsey!
It wasn't the BPD who started that rubbish about Burke who was Never a suspect. James Kolar was asked to go over the investigation paperwork when Mary Lacy was DA. He too had never worked a murder case before but anyway, he was less than useless & dreamt up a story blaming Burke. Well, he Had to come up with new bait for the Book he too was planning, to also line his own pockets. He presented his 'theory' about Burke & a bonk on the head with the flashlight, that didn't even belong to the Ramseys but the perps staged it on the kitchen counter, as they staged Lots of thing all over the house as this was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge & the plan was to implicate all Ramseys plus the housekeeper, who they knew had a key. Kolar was fired, wrote his book but no publisher would touch it. He then got into his retirement fund to self-publish, to very poor sales. Jim Clemente had a bright idea & along with other Con Artists, he got Kolar on board as a so-called 'detective' who had been involved with the case & next thing, that bogus CBS 'show' went to air in 2016. CBS & all of those BS artists were mightily sued for the 'gross misleading of the public' but Loads of the new generations don't know about that & like soo many others, most don't know anything about the case, let alone anything true. But yes, the BPD absolutely should be ashamed of themselves a) for being so incompetent as well as hiding the fact that of the 7-8 investigators involved, None had any homicide experience b) putting the family through further never ending hell with their blame game, for the purpose of covering up their Failings & they used the media to do that.
I think that the suspect has always been on the police radar but they are reluctant to pursue this person because he is either someone important or related to someone important and they have been ordered to ignore certain possibilities. For some reason they don't want to catch the killers.
@@BarbaraEMarshallCampbell BTW - that is absolutely Ridiculous & it hasn't Occurred to your brain cells that the Cops had Kids too & so would be in Danger the Same? Jeez.
I think they knew from the beginning who's the killer but maybe related to someone big and decided to turn heads and never use the DNA. Even today they still don't want to touch that dial.😢
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case. The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key. The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic. The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online. What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen. This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement. The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours. There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all. The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour. And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues.
@@deathpunch23 From the photos of the front of the house, it looked like a double story Tudor abode. Due to the extensive renovations, that was a Huge 4 storey mansion plus the basement, that had multiple rooms. The parent's bedroom suit was the whole of the top storey & their bed was at the front end. Burke's room was basically under the parent's bed & JB's room was 70 metres down from his, part of the new wing. The spiral staircase was up a bit, opposite her room. That went down to the main living areas & the basement door was up a hall, separate to those areas. The perps had choked JB in her bed with the cord so she couldn't scream & then used the air taser on her lower back to incapacitate her then wrapped her in one of the Two white blankets & carried her down to the boiler room, that was at the front of the house. The window in that room had a vent that went out the top of the window & when the cord was quickly released, JB got to let out one short shrill scream. The vent was then like a foghorn so the noise went across the road. Melody had her bedroom window open a bit. A test was later carried out & it was Proven that nothing could be heard from the basement by anyone upstairs.
Her mother called 911 and stated that her daughter kidnapped. If parents couldn’t find their child before they calling they should search every corner in the house how come they didn’t search the basement too and after all she was there .something didn’t make sense to me 😡
The ONLY REASON this case has NOT been solved is the fact that the Boulder Colorado Police Department did such a sloppy job on the initial investigation ! DNA is used around the world to quickly solve murders. The Boulder Colorado Police Department are shamed to allow the murdered to be caught, when he was in plain sight .
This Dr Oz video is from 2021. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.
The 3 page note did it's job, kept the keystone cops reading it over & over & over looking for clues instead of doing something very important, like talking to the Neighbours in the Ramsey's street.
@@RachaelNelson-df3qc To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 3 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
They Will Likely Be Even More Embarrassed When (If) They Ever Allow This Case to Finally Be Solved. Although I doubt they will allow that to happen, they certainly seem to be doing everything they can to Not Let That Happen 😖
I have to wonder if the Boulder Police department accidentally destroyed the DNA evidence and that is why they are not using it. To check against genealogy records.
@@abc89over64 The Facts Are: I Am Not A Ramsey, Not On Any Ramsey Payroll, & My "Provocations" Are 100% Sincere !!! I Have Studied This Case For Many Years & I Simply Believe JonBenet (& Her Family) Deserve Actual Justice, Especially After All These Years of Pure Hell Everyone Has Put That Poor Innocent Family Through. 😉
Interesting. I always considered it male but I must admit it is so protracted, it could very well be female. There was suspicion on a relative of the housekeeper at one stage. Apparently, they lived in, not good living conditions, not far away. In a short period following the murder, the male (think it was a son) was found dead (gunshot wound) in the ? trailor. I have always considered that they (2 males) were present (3 people in that fam unit) in the Ramsey house for the instillation of the Christmas tree but no-one has ever explained how the tree came into the house - front, back, basement door. I think this would have given them a great view of the house, the household, and accessing knowledge. The housekeeper would most probably have access keys, with internal knowledge of when and where the family were, at any specific time. She may or may not have been directly or partially implicated. If that were the case, the plan, the need for money, the death of 1, might fit, especially if the plan and outcome didn't match.
@@MonaLisa-lu8zi Glenn Myer was the organiser & the author of the note. The note was deliberately very long so the keystone cops would be kept busy reading it all over & over again, meeting after meeting, looking for some clue, instead of doing something really important, like canvassing the Neighbours.
I was a state criminal prosecutor for 34 years and handled dozens of murder and rape cases. First, DNA is not always the silver bullet that many people think it is, and DNA results must be very carefully interpreted. I could provide several examples of how DNA, or the lack of it, can be incorrectly interpreted. From what I know of this case, the autopsy found that vaginal marks were “consistent with” sexual assault without definitively finding that the child had been raped. No foreign DNA was found inside the child’s body. A prosecutor would have to convincingly prove that DNA recovered near the body was left by the murderer, to the exclusion of other reasonable explanations. I’ve seen other videos that indicate that the Boulder police are not satisfied that the DNA found could scientifically connect the killer with the crime. That said, as a prosecutor, I might have encouraged genealogical DNA research to determine whose DNA was found. If for example, foreign DNA could be traced to someone who had merely handled the child’s laundry, then simply disclose whatever the findings are and explain to the public why the DNA was not sufficient to charge someone as the killer.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested. Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case. The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key. The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic. The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online. What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen. This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement. The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours. There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all. The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour. And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues.
Your reply says that a DNA profile has already been obtained. It should be a relatively simple procedure to upload the digital profile to some of the family tree databases, such as GEDmatch. A forensic genealogist can narrow down suspects from there. Does anybody know why that has not been done?
@@safecracker80 Did the cops tell the media that the Golder State Killer was being tracked via family members DNA? When the one who was 17 at the time is found, an announcement will be made.
John Andrew, I am encouraged at the new evidence that is available to investigators. I am also stunned at outside personalities DISPUTING expert opinions exonerating the Ramsey family members, even in the last few months!
JonBenet's murder was critically bungled from the beginning by the Boulder PD. They need to be held accountable for schoolchild ineptitude and refusal to take responsibility for it. DNA may solve this case, but it will be at great cost from dreadful local police failures.
Lou was a beast gathering evidence and pursuing answers, possibilities to answers as well as asking all the right questions. He was a serious bloodhound expert! Ashame others worked harder to discredit him then working to solve this case. Prayers this case is solved soon. What a crime to block any testing that could solve it. As if this murder wasn't horrific enough, the resistance makes it even worse. It's like having footprints leading to a killer that they refuse to follow to see where they lead to!
I have prayed for JonBenet’s family all these years Patsy died knowing in her heart her baby was killed while they slept! Patsy dealt with cancer in her body, but I believe she couldn’t get over the fact that her baby was murdered and no one would help them find out the truth. My heart breaks for this entire family. Please, let these people bring this person to justice for her remaining family. It’s time for Patsy and JonBenet to rest!! Thank you Dr.Oz for doing this show. I am looking forward for justice for JonBenet.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 perps, has been in CODIS since 2003. One of them is hispanic, as of the results in 2016. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys..
@@TruckingCarsL48 If you are inferring that John Andrew Ramsey is the killer, He was Confirmed to have been in Atlanta Georgia at the time of the crime.
@@maymalone1505 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
They called everyone of their friends and family members over, before they called the police, so their family n friends trampled on evidence that the police could have used , that was the family's first mistake, calling you everyone to come over, that was a dumb move on their behalfs.
Jonbenet's mum died not knowing who brutally killed her daughter. Jonbenet's dad is getting older is he too going to go to his grave not knowing who brutally killed his daughter? What are the Boulder police playing at dna testing will solve this murder of 6 year old little girl who didn't deserve this but does deserve justice! It's gone on far too long her father and family have a right to know who did this, they have been through enough for God sake!!!
@margaretrutkowska1559 how could she have known who brutally killed her daughter, no one knows that's what dna testing is about so the family hopefully get justice.
It's clear that the police chief in Boulder has a huge ego. I remember past interviews and the attitude of these law enforcement heads who refused to consider that they botched this case
The soundproof area in the house is suspicious. Why did the kids have rooms far apart & not on the same floor? Suspicious, too. Spirit box sessions mentioned the mom. She deserves justice. Boulder should be ashamed for lagging on her case.
@gloriap3659 The Ramsey's remodelled the home and made the entire 3rd floor their bedroom. I suppose their bedroom was on the same floor as the children's before they began remodelling.
@@AliciaGuitar Insanity. That's completely abnormal for anyone to do even rich ppl with a huge house they wanted to show off. Maybe the 90s were different.
I wouldn't put it past them, they certainly are known to have "misplaced" the Mag-Lite flashlight that was found on the kitchen counter, for around a year in their evidence room & when it Was found, it turned up not to have any fingerprints on it or the batteries inside 🤔
They haven’t lost it. They are just not going to let it be tested…..EVER. They will never let this case be solved because it will prove that they did in fact, completely drop the ball on this case, due to their unwavering tunnel vision!
There were a lot of clues that Patsy wrote it, even veiled references to some movies she had recently seen. And who else would have known the exact amount of John’s Christmas bonus - and be reckless enough to put it in the note?
The biulder police department after all these years want to mess with the evidence and be proven the terrible job they did. They are not making progress its time the family has a break, take a chance and let the family have the evidence before there is no family left. Your police department is looking pretty stupid after 25 years not solving the case yet.
The neighbour would have heard the scream because the killer had the basement window open, but the parents and brother were on the top two floors of the house, the sound would not have travelled through all those floors and walls. Simple science.
While I Agree that the Parents would Not have Been Able to Hear That Scream 3 Stories Up, That broken window was on the West side of the basement, JonBenet was "unalived" on the East side of the basement, where there was a pipe leading outside that amplified the scream directly to the neighbor's slightly opened window across the street to the East.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 JB was Not 'unalived' then At All nor There. The perps had choked the child with the cord in her bed so she didn't scream, then they used the air taser on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped her in the white blankets & carried her down the spiral staircase to the basement. They were in the boiler room when the cord was quickly released & she screamed. JB was strangled to death in the basement laundry when Patsy was calling 911. TRUE facts matter deary.
@@bethryan9077 Except the paintbrush used in the garrote came from Patsy's paint tray IN THE BASEMENT !!!! Right Next to Where the Large Urine Stain was later found on the carpet right outside the "Wine Cellar" Door (Which IS also Right Next to the Entrance to the Boiler Room)
@@Prfdt3 The Boulder Police & Ramsey Investigators Both Did Sound Tests in That House & They Both Concluded That the Ramsey Parents would Not have been able to Hear Anything From the Basement on the Third Floor Master Suite. So NO, I Would Say That Is A Fact !!!
I didn't think the parents did it and I still don't .That house was huge and the kids' bedrooms were on the opposite end of the house the parent's bedrooms was, not a good idea !
Due to the extensive renovations, that was a huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards. The parent's bedroom suite was the whole of the top storey. The 4 bedrooms were on the level underneath. Burke's room was basically under their bed, JBs room was 70 feet down from his. Loads of mansions & multi-storey homes have the kid's bedrooms on a different level to the parent's bedroom.
Burke had hi tech boots..and amazingly no fingerprints on the ransom novel!! How weired is that..anyone else wldve grabbed the 3 pages and read them properly..and the Ramseys weren't exonerated. The courts wanted to endict them..
He is an awesome young man. I hope this family will get their answers and justice. I pray he has a good life. Beautiful children. My prayers with the Dad and boys. ❤ 🙏
This happens in cases every day. The police and the public decides that parents/family members of missing or murdered children are guilty on a hunch. Because they don’t act/react the way the public thinks someone in this situation should act/react. (Which is interesting especially because very few people have actually been in this situation) And that means the investigation becomes biased from the beginning. In a lot of cases parents are being called murderers, they are being harassed, threatened by people who have no knowledge about the investigation or the leads. Right now for example in the Sebastian Rogers case. And sometimes yes the investigation shows that the parents are guilty BUT sometimes they are not. But at that time their reputation is for ever destroyed and they can never escape the rumors and all the treads on social media calling them a murderer. Thankfully we don’t have this issue where I live. In my country police don’t share information about a case before someone is arrested. Police don’t hold one press conference after another sharing information with the public (only on rare occasions and in really special cases) we don’t have “body language experts” watching interviews whit parents/relatives/suspects and making judgments. Media doesn’t show pictures of suspects/ someone charged with a crime before they have been found guilty. In USA there are no such thing as innocent until being proven guilty because the media and the public has already . found you guilty without any form of proof. You are more or less sentenced, you will never be fully cleared. Yes these are people we se on our screens, but they are ordinary people just like you and me. Imagine if this was you and your family. Imagine you or your family members being called murderers and being harassed…
The murderer had to know the layout of the house, in order to find her bedroom, without getting lost in the house, making noise by knocking stuff down etc.
@@TruckingCarsL48 This Dr Oz video is from 2021. FYI - all Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago & finally Officially exonerated in 2008. And the investigation continued with Seasoned actual homicide investigators who had full Integrity & who worked tirelessly Unpaid, because Their sole purpose was to find a highly sadistic child killer. None wrote a book trying to line their own pockets so the general public are unaware of their work. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have the same Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.
@@TruckingCarsL48 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.. Now go play.
@@TruckingCarsL48 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point. The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake. Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime. The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass. NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved.. The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”. *All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.* The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 John Wesley Anderson like soo many other investigators, clean bung Misses lots of the actual evidence to say about the Type of person/persons & so, the Who, for a Start. The evidence that was/Is in plain sight but one has to have a Very good knowledge about this case in general & to be able to do jigsaw puzzles, that have very small pieces. BTW - nobody Knows what Lou discussed with Anyone.
This whole family have lived with hell for so long I read on the annivrrsary of her death 20 years later people still writing horrific things about the family Even young Burke It's horrible I hope and pray that you can find true justice for all of you....😢❤😢❤
Why cant they use familial dna ??? They may get the who, but not the why, smtms. This always frustrated me. I had little ones at the time too. My ❤ goes out to this family. Praying they get answers soon ! ❤ 🙏
Hello DR Oz, it has always bothered me that the small rope or string on the garrote has a knot that is consistent with a boaters kleet knot , now I maybe way off on this but it seemed very unique in the way it was tied and also did the police try to take DNA off the piece of rope or the wooden stick.
They Have Still Yet Untied That Knot, That is One of Many Pieces of Evidence the Family is Begging them to Send in For Additional DNA Collection/Sampling. Yet the BPD Continues to Drag Their Feet & Blow Smoke You Know Where 😖
You should find the photo of the whole thing, there were several knots because it was a complex made Bondage Device & that's why the Loops over her shirt at the wrists. That was a white nylon Cord. The 'wooden stick' was a calligrapher's tool that the intruders brought with them due to it being made in Korea, as the stamp shows & they cut, broke & whittled it when there. That being made in Korea was significant to Glenn Meyer, the organiser & the author of the note. The whittling of that was for no purpose at all, except to implicate Burke as he had a Swiss blade knife & used to whittle wood & drop the bits on the floor. He got in trouble off the housekeeper for doing that & to this day she believes the utility knife found in the cellar was his, when it was Not. This whole very well Planned crime for money & revenge was set up to implicate all Ramseys plus the housekeeper for good measure, who they knew had a key. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
@@peachesdixon7567 Stop spreading more Lies & very Deliberately so for no other reason than to suit your own twisted Agenda against this Proven Innocent family. Grow Up.
Patsy is the one who carried her child from her bed to the kitchen where the guy John waited. Patsy left the door unlocked for him. This wasn't the first time.
The murder could have likely been solved within 72 hours if only police had not bungled the case, and now refuse to solve it to save face I assume. I am quite sure it was a ragtag team of morons which included the house keeper and 2 -3 other people. One being that Helgoth character...and another being the housekeepers husband.
Helgoth Was A Good Suspect, but his DNA cleared him. I still think they should have looked further into his "former colleague" John Stephen Gigax, but the BPD were too focused on the Family to look at anyone else 🤬
This case has dna. With geneological dna tests available why can't this case be solved. At this time no one wants to finger point. Everyone justs wants the truth. This monster has been on the loose for years. Enough is enough
Apparently there's like next to none left to test but like cmon hundreds of cases have been solved in the last few years from genetic testing How much longer are they gonna "wait and see"
This little girl needs justice!! This case was botched from the start!! I hope JonBenet gets her justice soon!! RIP JonBenet!!
I don't know, but I senced something weird at her death time : her 9 years old brother... I saw news at that time that her 9 year old brother used to watch porno, and that he was jealous of his beautiful little sister ! It would be terrible, because they lose their daughter, then they will lose their only son by that last marriage!
@@MoonLight-nb2vg Marriage?
I wouldn't put too much stock into whatever sensationalized stories you saw on the news at the time. It's so wrong that they'd be reporting on a 9-year-old's sexuality too.... I know when I was a little boy, in those pre-internet days, I moved heaven and earth to locate and acquire porno magazines or videos.... crawled thru bookstore dumpsters, thru magazines with the covers torn off for refund, looking for any nudie mags.... once or twice I found some man's stash in a shed or garage or basement and snuck smth out
@@MoonLight-nb2vg omg lovey, you must watch porn shows to have 'heard' that Garbage. FYI - to save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 3 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
@@MoonLight-nb2vg👁 FLOATERS
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING AT FIRST BUT THEY CLEARED HIM SPEAKING OF HER BROTHER.
Opened 👀 will reveal surprises some are not willing to see...there's the fact that a mom was desperate to showcase her 'little girl' as a beauty queen
This case is not solved because someone doesn't want it to be !!!!!!!!!
VERY True
Exactly
Someone incredibly powerful too apparently.
That’s what I’m thinking
Maybe a police official ?
that sad fact is a child was murdered and no justice has been served 😔
This is usually the case, especially throughout history. Sad... but I don't think anyone escapes justice, not really.
I don't want to get into it too too deeply, but I think we judge our own selves, from a vantage point of having a bit more of the picture, but still subject to delusion, after death.
I think just cause and effect (causality, karma, as a functional law, just part of how things work) pushes people to punish themselves when punishment is due.
Maybe that comes in the form of being resurrected as farm animals a few thousand times, maybe it means being born into tortured human lives.... but I don't think anybody escapes punishment, for anything.
THEY KNOW who did it.
Democrats ALWAYS donate "enough".
I agree
Wtf does cost matter
@@arlenebolen2497 💫🤥😵
This is the strangest unsolved mystery case ever ! My goodness!!! 🙆🏻♀️, but the justice of God never fails you'll see!!✨
Now it is 2024. Get it done for God's sake.
Maybe...just maybe when John dies the truth may come out..I wonder if Burke ever went under hypnosis to see if he has any hidden memories of that night/morning...
This interview was recorded in 2021. Its 2024 , hoping someone has come up w the money to pay for the DNA test. I am sure that if the family offers to pay for these test a cash strapped police dept wont say no.! Seems to me that the half brother is not doing a good job in establishing a good line of co.mmunications w the police dept - if he had he would have a better understanding of the hold-up.
@@NN-sj5uvit’s the Boulder police . I live here. They don’t want their incompetence to come out but more their bias and lack of investigation..
@@NN-sj5uv The family can not pay for items to be tested that belong to the BPD as that would be a conflict of interest to say the least & highly Illegal actual. The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re & on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
It seems that You are not doing a good job of understanding a damn thing.
@@Think-dont-believethat incompetent female cop was on site and allowed the father to “look” around , and he picked up Bonet! I still feel the dad allowed a cult member in the house…I feel the dad is behind it . They had a Christmas party at home
I REALLY can't believe that alllll these years later, it's not resolved. HEARTBREAKING!!
Technology????
I have to assume that maybe somebody didn’t know how to get into that house clearly and she didn’t kill her self
they don't want it solved
@@gailszucsits7920 its 2024..are u living under a rock?????
Peado has confessed and jailed indefinitely as dangerous but no conviction for Jonbenet
Cee Cee Moore, Parabon Chief Genetic Genealogist DNA expert at Nanolabs; a Virginia-based DNA tech firm, claims she has access to cutting edge technology that could potentially solve the JonBenet Ramsey cold case within hours. The Ramsey family, as well as the late Detective Lou Smit's family (who have offered to pay for testing through GoFundMe donations), has petitioned the Boulder Police Department to allow an independent agency to run testing. One has to certainly ask themselves why BPD has refused advanced DNA testing to be performed, as well as all offers to help solve this cold case.
Agreed. It defies logic.
Preach It Brother !!! (or Sister - I don't want to assume gender - This Is 2024 🤣) But Yes, Preach It !!!
You're right. Why not accept help in solving this case? Sad, this girl deserves justice.
Yep everything thats been hidden in the dark will come to light best believe
Agreed...who has , what to hide. ⚖️⚖️⚖️
It's not just justice for Johnbenet, it's justice for Patty & the whole family who bore the stress, suspicion & accusations since the day it happened!
( There's no excuse for the Boulder PD not to investigate this! What are they hiding? )
Amen!❤❤❤
John and Patsy's lawyers interfered heavily with the investigation of the case. The grand jury did actually vote to indict both Patsy and John for neglect and child endangerment. The D.A. chose not to prosecute. The grand jury likely saw more evidence than we have seen, even after all these years. John and Patsy constantly dogged the Boulder PD, yet didn't cooperate with investigation. They wanted them to investigate an intruder theory, period. They didn't seem to think they needed to help the PD eliminate themselves as suspects. If you pay attention, you might see John as misdirecting the attention from certain things and putting other evidence under their noses for them to discover from day one of the crime scene through present.
The police failed in this case the house should have been completely closed off to everyone except law enforcement. There’s no excuse the police failed and made serious mistakes
Amen !!!
These botched investigations happens alot
I agree with you 💯
Exactly! Even I knew that and I’m just a citizen. Colorado. 😢
Mistakes like that are usually intentional
I recently listened to a UA-cam video detailing a 93-year-old cold case which was solved using the techniques mentioned in his video. I am at a loss to understand why this case is not solved yet. It almost makes me wonder if the police aren't protecting somebody.
It Appears They Are
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.
Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case.
The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key.
The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued.
The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic.
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement.
The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours.
There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour.
And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 Stop trying to spread more BS just because you are trying to Profit from another made up Fairy Tale that You dreamt up.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 The cops are protecting their retirement packages, That's All.
I've heard it's because there is limited DNA and they want to make sure technology is advanced enough and don't want to destroy or ruin the DNA left.
Why can't they do the newer DNA Geneology testing. If they have DNA they can link it to relatives and find the person, like they did with the 4 college students that were murdered. What is holding this up? This is crazy,
They Could, But the Boulder PD will Not. "Step Off' the evidence to have tested through Familial DNA Testing 🤬 They claim they are waiting for the technology to advance even more, but it is beginning to appear they really just do Not want this case to be solved. It Will make them Look Real Bad and probably open them up to some pretty major lawsuits from the family.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 I wonder if Boulder Police are involved in the murder?? Makes you wonder.
@@Livindaybyday There is a Fairly Well-Known But Rarely Spoken of Suspect in This Case named Sandra Henderson, who had a Biological Son & Daughter-In-Law that worked Closely with the Boulder Police Department. I Believe this ties back to them, He was Head of the Emergency Medical Response at that time and was the one that sent emergency services to the house that Day (He later became Very successful in the computer technology industry). His wife was an Officer at the University of CO Boulder at that time and later went to work For the Boulder Police Dept. (But Nothing Suspicious About That 🙄).
@@onesolvedmystery2274 You have Zero evidence of any type to back up your accusations against this family so just Stop. BTW - Arndt called for an ambulance in the Afternoon. Doh.
@@bethryan9077 Once Again, Why Are YOU SO Protective of the Henderson Family? Particularly when I am stating Facts About Them (That I Can & Have Backed Up) & YES, Sandra Henderson's daughter-in-law WAS a Police Officer for the University of CO Boulder At the time of the crime & Later went to work as a Spokesperson for the Boulder Police Department (While Police Chief Mark Beckner was in office). YOU May Not Like It, But Those Are Facts !!!
I have ZERO confidence in the Boulder Police Department. They royally screwed this investigation from day ONE and immediately got TUNNEL VISION on the Dad and Mom being the perpetrators! Per a documentary some years ago, a nearly identical crime had occurred a few weeks before and a few miles away in a similar neighborhood, but the parents woke up and fought the assailant off. Police ignored that occurrence and continued to hound the Ramseys.
In this murder case, the Police Dept was short sighted and awful in every aspect of how this was handled. The City of Boulder should demand that any and ALL DNA techniques should be used to solve this horrible crime and they should pay whatever it costs to do so since the BPD BOTCHED this case for YEARS!
This family has been put through hell and I feel so bad for them for their loss and for the way they were treated for so many years. It's horrific and so so sad. I pray the case gets solved and the perpetrator becomes known and receives as much justice as is possible.
❤
It was a few blocks away wasn’t it? Not a few miles away.
Absolutely the DNA techniques could solve this case but the Boulder PD won’t release the evidence to have it tested. I don’t know why the Governor can’t force them to release it. Or at the very least send it off for testing for the Ramsey family. Especially since Mr Ramsey has offered to pay for the actual testing out of his pocket!
Boulder is EXTREMELY liberal. Talk in the streets was that satanism and drugs were rampant. Many Coloradans don't step foot in that city. Rich, liberal, selfish reputation.
If the other family fought off the would be killer in a neighborhood near by,, did the Actualy SEE HIM??? Colorado is Not protected by good people😮😢😮
Somebody knows more than what they are saying
I grew up on a large estate with a long driveway. We were flanked by smaller homes, many many huge trees, and were insulated from certain loud sounds but could hear others speaking in a neighbor’s home farther away from others. Sound travels and deflects in very odd and unpredictable ways.
Same as i
Same as me.
What point are you making as it relates to this child's killer? Did you hear something the authorities need to hear about This child's killer needs to be caught so that her father can have some closure and peace.
Depends on the landscape, like what country folks call a holler living at the bottom around big hills. they could communicate with others that's around the area and hear someone pulling in on their road a mile away.
@@BarbaraEMarshallCampbellyes this poster heard what happened with JonBenet, but forgot to mention that bit
Protest in front of Boulder PD this is an outrage. Boulder needs to be held accountable give this family peace for God's sake
Hopefully One Day (On This Earth) They Will Be Held Accountable, But Not Even Protesting will get the BPD to do the Right Thing 😖
Shame on Boulder PD.
The family caused this cover up. All to protect they still alive child. So the family don't need justice, Jon banned does
I would not fault the Police. It is quite possible both the husband and wife were involved in crimes against their daughter.
This is only my own opinion ... the worst mistake the Ramsey's made was moving to Boulder Colorado. Terrible state of affairs is all I can say.
I'm retired law enforcement. I just went to court on a 1990 cold case homicide that was solved by genetic genealogy and San Diego is solving murder cases from the 1960s with the same technology. May justice prevail for JonBenet.
Sadly, the Boulder PD Will Not Allow That To Happen 😖
I strongly believe that it is a high ranking policeman in the Boulder P.D.!!
@@DontDoIt-gq5qo Ludicrous indeed.
I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING SOMEONE CAN DO TO TRACK IT LIKE ... "DENISE DAILEY" SAID ..🔴 LETS SEE WHO EVER IT WAS , WAS AFTER PENNING ON THE RAMSEY'S ... LETS SEE THEY PUT PATSY "IN HER GRAVE" .. ! BROKE JOHN RAMSY$$$$ TRYING TO SOLVE THE CASE ..🔴 TRIED TO PEN IT ON HER 9 Y.O. BROTHER ..🔴
JOHN RAMSEY REMARRIED BUT STILL BROKE ...STEP BROTHER TRYING TO DO WHAT HE CAN DO .. EVERY WAY THEY TURN ITS A (HUGE BLOCK) THERE🔴 """ AND THE *BLOCK IS (ALWAY'S) THE ... *POLICE *DEPARTMENT🔚🔴 WHO EVER IT IS.... [ STILL STAY'S ... FOCUSSED] ON THIS CASE ON ANY THING THEY CAN READ ON JONBEN'T RAMSEY CASE ...LIKE READING TO SEE IF ANYONE IS CLOSE TO SOLVING THIS CASE ...I MEAN THIS PERSON IS NOT ONLY A *PEDOPHILE BUT VERY *EVIL AND ...A (SATAN ---- WORSHIPER)...DONT BELIEVE IN GOD ..! COULDNT ...🔴 I PRAY THAT THEY FIND THEM .. OR HIM !!
WHAT IF THEY TOOK UP A PITCHIEN HOW EVER YOU SPELL THE DAG GUM THING ...WHERE MILLION'S SIGN IT ..WOULD THAT MAKE THEM RUN THE TOUCH DNA ... ..⁉️( *ANYONE, YOUR THOUGHT'S.)
As a Ramsey this case has always made me so angry . Ive watched over my daughters as closely as I can because of it . I pray the murderer is brought to justice.
This show was from 2021. Why is it being shown now like it's a new episode?
Lots of the fooltube videos are old, for those who don't know any better I suppose, like the new generations. This case is still big business, meaning $$.
Someone posted it ....😮
Mr. Ramsey was recently on 20/20 Australia with information about the DNA testing available to them that they absolutely are able to do and can do yet as of a few months ago, Boulder refused to give them, yet again the DNA, not run the testing. Mr. Ramsey’s donations would pay for it. I can’t remember, it may have been 60 minutes Australia but it is on UA-cam. He (OZ, is just bringing it back into the public’s eyes in the US). I as a parent would never trust the Police or the Media in the US again after such a botched investigation!
@@deidrekoehler2882 I wonder, has there been any physical protesting at the Boulder PD regarding this matter 🤔
With technology, they're able to obtain new evidence!!!
The fact that the police aren't working on this is disgraceful
Yes It Is !!!
This is a video from 2021, so old info. Dr Oz & his stick, several aspects that were still incorrect. FYI - last December a cold case team was put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA from both unknown males is being re-analysed with the Advanced forensic methods & untested evidence items are being allowed to be sent away for same. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
I wonder if the reason the Colorado police will not solve the case is because they know it was done by one of their own and they are protecting the officer and their own reputation
@@dianawatton7570 That IS The Growing Speculation & It Does Appear That May Be Exactly What They Are Doing.
If that’s true then the fbi should step in
I cannot imagine that this case is not solved as of yet.There is no reason, other than the vile creatures who deny this family the truth.
Amen !!!
I wonder if there was DNA IN the guest room, perhaps closet or under bed. I believe that's where he was when the family came home. He was Already inside
@@angie-kbm There IS Additional DNA (to that found on her & her clothing) That was Found Somewhere in that Basement that is known as DNA-X, It is Briefly mentioned in the Chris Wolf vs. Ramsey Lawsuit. I Personally Believe it is likely 💩 left in the basement toilet, as the authorities are known to have tore that toilet & plumbing up & they asked Patsy a Lot about the kid's flushing habits. But Nobody (In the Public, at least) Really Knows What DNA-X IS or Where Exactly in that basement it was found. 🤔
@angieb1234 Very Possible..Unfortunately LE dropped the ball on this one.
@@divinekateor DNA on the door knobs leading to the basement
Thank you for pointing out this cold case....Cindy, John and Brother aswell as Dr. Oz you give me hope in the solving of this case and the reason why it is pushed under the rug. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I can't understand why this hasn't been done already!
That poor family have suffered so much and that poor little princess deserves justice and the animal that took her life should be held accountable for his actions.
100% Agree
Poor family,?..I think the dad killed her
@@rsdenimblues8342 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor.
Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved..
The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.*
The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.
The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
This beautiful little girl was taken too soon I hope they catch the person who done this because this family needs justice ❤
We the People should write letters and make phone calls to the Boulder Police Department and to the city government of Boulder asking them to solve this case, and we should not cease until they do so!
I Wish It Was That Easy, Boulder PD is Doing Everything They Can To Not Have This Case Solved, 27+ Years of Just Excuse After Excuse 🤬
This is a video from 2021. FYI - Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic.
The cold case team have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 WHY!!!!!!
@@lindalee834 Because Boulder PD Has Something/Someone To Hide. If This Case Is Ever Solved (Which I Doubt They Will Allow) It Will Make Them Look Real Bad.
I'm in.
This case should of been solved years ago. This family has suffered enough. I still feel this case was messed up to protect someone. JonBenet needs Justice.
They recently caught someone for a very similar crime and afterward in 95 or so he moved to Colorado....i wish they would check his dna...
Who
watching law and order Im always hearing about statute of limitations in rape does this apply in other crimes?
@@Jem-Hologramsit doesn’t apply to murder or kidnapping. Basically class A felonies and federal offenses. Terrorism, treason etc
No more SOL on r@pe either.
@@Jem-Holograms statute of limitations doesn't apply in cases of murder.
I'd sue the Colorado PD for making assumptions rather than actually performing a thorough investigation. Additionally the police allowed friends of the Ramsey's contaminating the forensics of the death scenes and failure to examine ALL ROOMS OF THE HOUSE and basement.
The acts of torture & then the death scenes were in the basement - laundry room, boiler room & the body was placed in the cellar, so the contamination issue from any friends, wasn't. The perps took JB from her bed, no-one went in there, only a couple of cops who had a quick look early that morning then it was cordoned off. The friends were in the den & sunroom actually. Fleet White went looking for JB when he got there because he said his daughter went missing x long before this & he'd found her under her bed, so, he was the only friend who went wandering anywhere.
@@bethryan9077was forensics done in all those areas? There would have been lots of the perpetrator's DNA around including on JonBenet's bed sheets where she was picked up out of the bed.
@@lornocford6482 I wasn't there when forensic people did whatever through the whole house & basement plus outside, including the garage. I sent you a narrative earlier that included the fact that fibres from the frayed ends of that cord were found on her pillow & sheet, as on the forensic list. There was more like the beaver hair on JB's hands, fibres from a blue cloth where blood was wiped from her thighs, an auxiliary hair from blonde person on one of the white blankets but haven't sourced confirmation yet whether that was a pubic hair or not, multi fibres & colours on the sticky side of the Duck tape as the perps used that to hold the battery pack in place after one dropped it when out hiking. The story still that there were red fibres & off Patsy's sweater on that tape, but Not true. I put away my notes a while ago so can't think what else, as to the bits & pieces. The Hi-Tec shoe print that was on the white mould in the cellar near her body - that was said to be a print from a boot for a long time. Another different shoe print across from that. A palm print on the back of the cellar door that was never identified. The basement had been painted about 1 year prior. The black & white photo of when Patsy won Miss West Virginia that they stuck on the wall in the laundry basement over the phone - the photo being there is forensics too. That photo is prevalent in a lot of videos because of a screen shot off the cops' video footage. The chunks of pineapple that they put in the leftover icing is forensics because it had to be compared to what was in her intestinal system, which is also forensics. The slithers of wood from the paintbrush handle inside the vagina is forensics. It's a very long list actually. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from the 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from the 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic.
The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
If Boulder didn't have the experience or knowledge to pursue the case because of lack of experience they should have called in the state or the FBI for assistance. Even back then the FBI did great lab work no one else could do. They wanted it all to themselves and didn't have enough knowledge to handle it. Now's the time to get it done.
Dr Oz. I'm glad you are still on this case.
Praying for justice 🧬💡👏
What a joke the law hasn't solved this yet ridiculous
Boulder PD Got Something To Hide !!!!
Boulder might get sued for accusing family. .
They decided a long time ago that the parents was guilty and didn’t investigate any leads that didn’t fit their story. This happens in cases every day. The police and the public decides that parents of missing or murdered children are guilty on a hunch. Because they don’t act/react the way the public thinks someone in this situation should act/react. (Which is interesting especially because very few people have actually been in this situation) And that means the investigation becomes biased from the beginning. In a lot of cases parents are being called murderers, they are being harassed, threatened by people who have no knowledge about the investigation or the leads. Right now for example in the Sebastian Rogers case. And sometimes yes the investigation shows that the parents are guilty BUT sometimes they are not. But at that time their reputation is for ever destroyed and they can never escape the rumors and all the treads on social media calling them a murderer. Thankfully we don’t have this issue where I live. In my country police don’t share information about a case before someone is arrested. Police don’t hold one press conference after another sharing information with the public (only on rare occasions and in really special cases) we don’t have “body language experts” watching interviews whit parents/relatives/suspects and making judgments. Media doesn’t show pictures of suspects/ someone charged with a crime before they have been found guilty. In USA there are no such thing as innocent until being proven guilty because the media and the public has already . found you guilty without any form of proof. You are more or less sentenced, you will never be fully cleared. Yes these are people we se on our screens, but they are ordinary people just like you and me. Imagine if this was you and your family. Imagine you or your family members being called murderers and being harassed…
@@deannekliene2673 As well they should, however I believe that is why they are not willing to have this case properly solved
Because they are wealthy people they never going to find the killer,it's among of them ,keep quiet .
If only we had surveillance cameras like we do today... RIP JonBenet and Patsy.
VERY TRUE, Fortunately there were Numerous Eyewitness Accounts though. Multiple neighbors reported seeing suspicious: people, vehicles, and lights on & off that evening that they had never seen before. Mr Ramsey even saw a suspicious young "striking couple from the east" at both his church (St John's Episcopal) & Pasta Jay's restaurant afterward on Christmas Eve Night (the Male of which, I personally believe to be responsible for committing this heinous crime).
They wldve been turned off..in one interview John says I didn't set the alarm that not,,coincidence...in another he said it was broken..
@@berniehayes8425 John NEVER Said it was Broken, That Is False
@onesolvedmystery2274 have you watched all the interviews..in one he stated it was broken and hadn't worked for a while..like many other times he changed the narrative..time and time again..take some time and watch every one you can find..you will see
@@berniehayes8425 I Have, & You Are Mistaken. Prove Me Wrong, I Dare YOU !!!!
ASTOUNDING! The DNA has not been submitted for geneology testing?? wth?? Several months ago John Ramsey himself said that it had been submitted. And the Boulder PD? What is their problem? Can't the State AG compel them to comply with requests on this case? There is NO EXCUSE for not having solved this crime; not with the advances in DNA/Geneology/Familial testing that now exist!
He did not say that! Quit spreading rumors. He’s been saying forever now that he WANTS it tested, has begged the PD, the mayor, the governor, etc……he doesn’t have the evidence! Boulder PD has it and they’re not giving it up! PERIOD!
To add to the endless multi layered aspects of confusion about this case, this video is from 2021. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally.
This a video from 2021, John Andrew said that but it's easy to have missed it. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 unknown males, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA matched - from under JB's pinkie fingernails & from the 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like xyz officers from before.
Can you provide any links on this information? I'm not disputing you at all but I've been following this case since it happened and I've never come across the information on the DNA being processed. I did know about the cold case team but nothing on results. And from those results, is there tracing going on via geneology/famililal DNA? @@bethryan9077
You can't take what John says as gospel.
I read that a taser was used on the child. Tasers were new to Law Enforcement at that time, so I have to wonder if anyone has thought to investigate all Law Enforcement working, or living in the area?
It could also be the electric train that was in the basement.
That’s what I’m thinking it’s a cop
Garrot.
YESSSSS
Not check in the area maybe at that Xmas party the night of..
The parents had friends in high places and had many connections so you know if those type of people were at that Xmas party I'm sure there was a few cop friends there also that night!
That would be interesting to see that invite list.
A nine year old boy does not have the wherewithal to break a window and sit a suitcase in front of it. He was already in the house. That made no sense…the Boulder police should be ashamed of themselves.
well he would have had the strength to hit his sister over the head with a flashlight, he had already hit her with a golf club months earlier and believe me 9 year old boys do have a lot of strength, he used to smear his sh*t all over Jonbenet's toys and sweets, he was obviously insanely jealous of her. The case and smashed window was probably staged by the parents, they had already lost their daughter and didn't want to lose their son too. Really bad karma to Burke Ramsey!
I didn’t know she had an older half brother. A lot of people were so fixated on Burke. This is why it’s so important to do the research .
It wasn't the BPD who started that rubbish about Burke who was Never a suspect. James Kolar was asked to go over the investigation paperwork when Mary Lacy was DA. He too had never worked a murder case before but anyway, he was less than useless & dreamt up a story blaming Burke. Well, he Had to come up with new bait for the Book he too was planning, to also line his own pockets. He presented his 'theory' about Burke & a bonk on the head with the flashlight, that didn't even belong to the Ramseys but the perps staged it on the kitchen counter, as they staged Lots of thing all over the house as this was a very, Very well Planned crime for money & revenge & the plan was to implicate all Ramseys plus the housekeeper, who they knew had a key. Kolar was fired, wrote his book but no publisher would touch it. He then got into his retirement fund to self-publish, to very poor sales. Jim Clemente had a bright idea & along with other Con Artists, he got Kolar on board as a so-called 'detective' who had been involved with the case & next thing, that bogus CBS 'show' went to air in 2016. CBS & all of those BS artists were mightily sued for the 'gross misleading of the public' but Loads of the new generations don't know about that & like soo many others, most don't know anything about the case, let alone anything true.
But yes, the BPD absolutely should be ashamed of themselves a) for being so incompetent as well as hiding the fact that of the 7-8 investigators involved, None had any homicide experience b) putting the family through further never ending hell with their blame game, for the purpose of covering up their Failings & they used the media to do that.
I think that the suspect has always been on the police radar but they are reluctant to pursue this person because he is either someone important or related to someone important and they have been ordered to ignore certain possibilities. For some reason they don't want to catch the killers.
@@BarbaraEMarshallCampbell BTW - that is absolutely Ridiculous & it hasn't Occurred to your brain cells that the Cops had Kids too & so would be in Danger the Same? Jeez.
😇Such a sad horrid trauma this family has gone through. I pray the evil monster is found and gives this family peace. God bless this family .😇😇
I think they knew from the beginning who's the killer but maybe related to someone big and decided to turn heads and never use the DNA. Even today they still don't want to touch that dial.😢
Truth
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.
Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case.
The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key.
The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued.
The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic.
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement.
The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours.
There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour.
And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues.
Facts
April Marie Tinsley who's case hasn't been solved until 2018 (literally 30 years after her murder) was solved by DNA. There is always hope!
This family packed up what they needed for the night and never crossed the threshold of that house ever again.
If neighbors heard the girl scream, why didn't they call the police?
Melody Stanton said it was abrupt and she figured the parents had heard it (sadly they did not)
@@onesolvedmystery2274supposedly didnt
@@deathpunch23
JonBenet's parents stated they didn't hear her. Stop talking $hit.
@@darkhorse9472 if you were paying attention you would have learned it is possible.
@@deathpunch23 From the photos of the front of the house, it looked like a double story Tudor abode. Due to the extensive renovations, that was a Huge 4 storey mansion plus the basement, that had multiple rooms. The parent's bedroom suit was the whole of the top storey & their bed was at the front end. Burke's room was basically under the parent's bed & JB's room was 70 metres down from his, part of the new wing. The spiral staircase was up a bit, opposite her room. That went down to the main living areas & the basement door was up a hall, separate to those areas. The perps had choked JB in her bed with the cord so she couldn't scream & then used the air taser on her lower back to incapacitate her then wrapped her in one of the Two white blankets & carried her down to the boiler room, that was at the front of the house. The window in that room had a vent that went out the top of the window & when the cord was quickly released, JB got to let out one short shrill scream. The vent was then like a foghorn so the noise went across the road. Melody had her bedroom window open a bit. A test was later carried out & it was Proven that nothing could be heard from the basement by anyone upstairs.
The police and DA standing in the way of justice. Why? What are they hiding.
Good Question
@@onesolvedmystery2274 job Ramsey paid someone off
There hiding something x
Her mother called 911 and stated that her daughter kidnapped. If parents couldn’t find their child before they calling they should search every corner in the house how come they didn’t search the basement too and after all she was there .something didn’t make sense to me 😡
Well if the narrative is true (which I doubt), Patsy was operating upon the claims of the kidnapping note.
The ONLY REASON this case has NOT been solved is the fact that the Boulder Colorado Police Department did such a sloppy job on the initial investigation ! DNA is used around the world to quickly solve murders. The Boulder Colorado Police Department are shamed to allow the murdered to be caught, when he was in plain sight .
This Dr Oz video is from 2021. Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic.
The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same.
The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.
Way to long, seems it should have been solved, I know many cases are unsolved but surely there's enough evidence to find out who did it.
Was this guy so smart, that he's been able to get away with this murder??
That note was beyond suspicious.
thank you MrTimeBombMan, my thought too, 3 page letter! WHO DOES THAT! weird clues! RIP Jon Benet!! so so sorry.
EXACTLY!
The 3 page note did it's job, kept the keystone cops reading it over & over & over looking for clues instead of doing something very important, like talking to the Neighbours in the Ramsey's street.
Brother killed his sister
@@RachaelNelson-df3qc To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 3 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
The police is embarrassed that they failed to protect or store information about her death .
They Will Likely Be Even More Embarrassed When (If) They Ever Allow This Case to Finally Be Solved. Although I doubt they will allow that to happen, they certainly seem to be doing everything they can to Not Let That Happen 😖
Thanks for all the details. This answered alot of questions i had.
I hope this case can be solved.
Dad has been begging for DNA to be tested and he was willing to pay for it but Boulder Co. Refused to release it!
BPD 🤬
Perhaps, it was one of their own!
obvious its someone they know very well...
Lies
If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing...
This is ridiculous. Everyone should know, by now, who killed that little girl and if the don’t then they haven’t been paying attention.
Who was it?
Totally agree with you
John ramsey
I have to wonder if the Boulder Police department accidentally destroyed the DNA evidence and that is why they are not using it. To check against genealogy records.
They May have done it Non-Accidentally 🤨
the Police not wanting to solve it, or test the suitcase makes me think an officer was involved.
Or Someone That Worked Very Closely With Them 👍
The suitcase was staged
Also a stun gun was used twice on her. Back then, police were armed with them. They always protect their own.
@@sandysimmer1279 it's uncertain if a stun gun was used it's not an exact match of a stun gun and the knots to strangle her...scout knot..
i don't think a stun gun was used
RIP, sweet soul,and Pasty. I hope the killer gets caught soon 😢😢😢😢😢😢
If you want to unalive someone, just go to Boulder, CO because the police department is completely and utterly inept. OH, and IMO corrupt.
Incompetent!
What u alive mean never heard of it?🤔
It's been 28 years... What is the issue ????f they have DNA evidence??
I don’t get it!
Boulder PD does Not Want This Case To Be Solved, It Will make them look Real Bad and likely open them up to some Major Lawsuits from the family.
Are you a Ramsey? Are you on the Ramsey payroll? You have many videos of JBR. Are your provocations sincere?
Please state facts.
@@abc89over64 The Facts Are: I Am Not A Ramsey, Not On Any Ramsey Payroll, & My "Provocations" Are 100% Sincere !!!
I Have Studied This Case For Many Years & I Simply Believe JonBenet (& Her Family) Deserve Actual Justice, Especially After All These Years of Pure Hell Everyone Has Put That Poor Innocent Family Through. 😉
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Stun Gun. High Tek boots. These are good things to know as far as profiling the perp.
That long ransom note always seemed suspicious. That took time to write & rewrite. It sounds like a woman to me.
Interesting. I always considered it male but I must admit it is so protracted, it could very well be female.
There was suspicion on a relative of the housekeeper at one stage. Apparently, they lived in, not good living conditions, not far away. In a short period following the murder, the male (think it was a son) was found dead (gunshot wound) in the ? trailor.
I have always considered that they (2 males) were present (3 people in that fam unit) in the Ramsey house for the instillation of the Christmas tree but no-one has ever explained how the tree came into the house - front, back, basement door. I think this would have given them a great view of the house, the household, and accessing knowledge.
The housekeeper would most probably have access keys, with internal knowledge of when and where the family were, at any specific time. She may or may not have been directly or partially implicated.
If that were the case, the plan, the need for money, the death of 1, might fit, especially if the plan and outcome didn't match.
The male killer may have had a female accomplice with him that night who wrote the note while he was doing his dirty deed!
@@MonaLisa-lu8zi Glenn Myer was the organiser & the author of the note. The note was deliberately very long so the keystone cops would be kept busy reading it all over & over again, meeting after meeting, looking for some clue, instead of doing something really important, like canvassing the Neighbours.
@@ninavongunten122no intruder would write a three page ransom note and them leave the child in the house please.
@jacquelinehunt7794 Unless they were startled by something.
Old news and in 2024 they still have no clue !
So sad 💔
DNA should have solved this years ago what a shame here it has solved everyone else’s
I was a state criminal prosecutor for 34 years and handled dozens of murder and rape cases. First, DNA is not always the silver bullet that many people think it is, and DNA results must be very carefully interpreted. I could provide several examples of how DNA, or the lack of it, can be incorrectly interpreted. From what I know of this case, the autopsy found that vaginal marks were “consistent with” sexual assault without definitively finding that the child had been raped. No foreign DNA was found inside the child’s body. A prosecutor would have to convincingly prove that DNA recovered near the body was left by the murderer, to the exclusion of other reasonable explanations. I’ve seen other videos that indicate that the Boulder police are not satisfied that the DNA found could scientifically connect the killer with the crime. That said, as a prosecutor, I might have encouraged genealogical DNA research to determine whose DNA was found. If for example, foreign DNA could be traced to someone who had merely handled the child’s laundry, then simply disclose whatever the findings are and explain to the public why the DNA was not sufficient to charge someone as the killer.
Yet The Boulder PD Still Refuses To Do Familial DNA Testing 😖
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.
Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner Ron Gosage was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books, TV & fooltube shows, get Ruthless. Every man & his dog tried to get rich off the back of this high profile case.
The insidious plot became real when the intruders broke into the house previously. That’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do with the framing of all Ramseys plus the housekeeper too, who they knew had a key.
The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued.
The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were already being cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
Next testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also & he is hispanic.
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. That can be found online.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. Due to the extensive renovations that was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And absolutely Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This crime for money & revenge was directed specifically against John & the plan all along - JB was Never to be taken from the basement.
The note was a Ransom Demand made into a very long kidnapping letter to keep the keystone cops reading all 3 pages over & over looking for clues instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours.
There was Never going to be Any justice for this little girl when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of finding highly Sadistic child killers Yet had Zero experience with Any murder case before & Showed that they had No priority except for ongoing acts of covering their asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were responsible for starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious money grubbing Behaviour.
And the never ending BS still being spread around like a disease, continues.
Your reply says that a DNA profile has already been obtained. It should be a relatively simple procedure to upload the digital profile to some of the family tree databases, such as GEDmatch. A forensic genealogist can narrow down suspects from there. Does anybody know why that has not been done?
@@safecracker80 Did the cops tell the media that the Golder State Killer was being tracked via family members DNA? When the one who was 17 at the time is found, an announcement will be made.
There was a party at their house prior to her murder. They came back from a party that night.
John Andrew, I am encouraged at the new evidence that is available to investigators. I am also stunned at outside personalities DISPUTING expert opinions exonerating the Ramsey family members, even in the last few months!
JonBenet's murder was critically bungled from the beginning by the Boulder PD. They need to be held accountable for schoolchild ineptitude and refusal to take responsibility for it. DNA may solve this case, but it will be at great cost from dreadful local police failures.
TRUTH
Lou was a beast gathering evidence and pursuing answers, possibilities to answers as well as asking all the right questions. He was a serious bloodhound expert! Ashame others worked harder to discredit him then working to solve this case. Prayers this case is solved soon. What a crime to block any testing that could solve it. As if this murder wasn't horrific enough, the resistance makes it even worse. It's like having footprints leading to a killer that they refuse to follow to see where they lead to!
That Is Exactly What Is Happening. This Case Should Have & Could Have Been Solved 23 Years Ago!!!
Yhe cops in vthe UK are doing the same thing to a young girl claiming to be Maddy McCain!
@@trishaholmeide2192are they not doing DNA testing on her? I know this story well of her abduction. These poor parents need resolution!
I have prayed for JonBenet’s family all these years Patsy died knowing in her heart her baby was killed while they slept! Patsy dealt with cancer in her body, but I believe she couldn’t get over the fact that her baby was murdered and no one would help them find out the truth. My heart breaks for this entire family. Please, let these people bring this person to justice for her remaining family. It’s time for Patsy and JonBenet to rest!! Thank you Dr.Oz for doing this show. I am looking forward for justice for JonBenet.
Boulder PD know who did this, they are blocking the case.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor.
Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome.
The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.*
The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the 2 perps, has been in CODIS since 2003. One of them is hispanic, as of the results in 2016. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys..
the blackmailer left a threatening message but the childs" body was still inside. How odd
Unless this was Not a kidnapping gone Wrong, but a Murder Revenge gone Right 🤔
Inside job😮
At 8:50 the KILLER WAS EXPOSED!
@@TruckingCarsL48 If you are inferring that John Andrew Ramsey is the killer, He was Confirmed to have been in Atlanta Georgia at the time of the crime.
@@maymalone1505 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor.
Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome.
The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.*
The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
this case should of been solved a month after it happened..there was so much evidence left behind!
The Ramsey had money and connections
They called everyone of their friends and family members over, before they called the police, so their family n friends trampled on evidence that the police could have used , that was the family's first mistake, calling you everyone to come over, that was a dumb move on their behalfs.
Jonbenet's mum died not knowing who brutally killed her daughter. Jonbenet's dad is getting older is he too going to go to his grave not knowing who brutally killed his daughter? What are the Boulder police playing at dna testing will solve this murder of 6 year old little girl who didn't deserve this but does deserve justice! It's gone on far too long her father and family have a right to know who did this, they have been through enough for God sake!!!
Amen !!!
She knew
@margaretrutkowska1559 how could she have known who brutally killed her daughter, no one knows that's what dna testing is about so the family hopefully get justice.
There is more going on here than you know.
Perhaps but justice needs to be served
I felt so sorry for her parents. I have always believed in their innocence. So terribly sad. RIP to all three💔
@elizabethtobin6894 Who are the all 3?.
Patsy and JonBenet have passed but John Ramsey is still alive.
JonBenet, Patsy, & Beth ???
The family don't want the case solve by any one because they knew who killed their daughter/sister...this case should have been solved 20 years ago !
Their 9-year old son Burke killed his sister due to rage.
It's clear that the police chief in Boulder has a huge ego. I remember past interviews and the attitude of these law enforcement heads who refused to consider that they botched this case
The soundproof area in the house is suspicious. Why did the kids have rooms far apart & not on the same floor? Suspicious, too. Spirit box sessions mentioned the mom. She deserves justice. Boulder should be ashamed for lagging on her case.
@gloriap3659 The Ramsey's remodelled the home and made the entire 3rd floor their bedroom.
I suppose their bedroom was on the same floor as the children's before they began remodelling.
@@DebraHarrison-b2x after the remodel is somewhat confusing
@@gloriap3659 What's confusing?.
Why build an area that they found her & they didn't hear a thing. Dr. Oz mentioned it in the video.
@@gloriap3659 They didn't know their daughter was going to be murdered in the middle of the night did they?.
"A COMPLECATED HOUSE?¡ That means to me. The Killer needed Knowledge of this House!¡!
And that's Why they broke in Before.
Yeah, they found pry marks on the backdoor. Probably the killer walked around and learned the layout a few weeks prior.
They had a huge Christmas tour in their house with 1-2,000 guests going thru the house in 2 days just before the murder.
Was it a child sacrifice case.
@@AliciaGuitar Insanity. That's completely abnormal for anyone to do even rich ppl with a huge house they wanted to show off. Maybe the 90s were different.
Makes one wonder if the police have lost the DNA so are stalling.
I wouldn't put it past them, they certainly are known to have "misplaced" the Mag-Lite flashlight that was found on the kitchen counter, for around a year in their evidence room & when it Was found, it turned up not to have any fingerprints on it or the batteries inside 🤔
They haven’t lost it. They are just not going to let it be tested…..EVER. They will never let this case be solved because it will prove that they did in fact, completely drop the ball on this case, due to their unwavering tunnel vision!
A 3 page rambling note from the murderer sounds more like a letter a woman would write. I hope for the family that this can be solved.
There were a lot of clues that Patsy wrote it, even veiled references to some movies she had recently seen. And who else would have known the exact amount of John’s Christmas bonus - and be reckless enough to put it in the note?
No it didn’t
Her Patsy wrote the ransom letter.
I think it’s getting harder and harder for police to actually want to do their jobs
Cops just dont wanna work anymore
The biulder police department after all these years want to mess with the evidence and be proven the terrible job they did. They are not making progress its time the family has a break, take a chance and let the family have the evidence before there is no family left. Your police department is looking pretty stupid after 25 years not solving the case yet.
I Believe They Are Afraid To Face the Full Consequences For How Bad They F'd This Investigation Up
Still didnt give us a name😮😮😮😮
The neighbour would have heard the scream because the killer had the basement window open, but the parents and brother were on the top two floors of the house, the sound would not have travelled through all those floors and walls. Simple science.
While I Agree that the Parents would Not have Been Able to Hear That Scream 3 Stories Up, That broken window was on the West side of the basement, JonBenet was "unalived" on the East side of the basement, where there was a pipe leading outside that amplified the scream directly to the neighbor's slightly opened window across the street to the East.
@@onesolvedmystery2274 JB was Not 'unalived' then At All nor There. The perps had choked the child with the cord in her bed so she didn't scream, then they used the air taser on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped her in the white blankets & carried her down the spiral staircase to the basement. They were in the boiler room when the cord was quickly released & she screamed. JB was strangled to death in the basement laundry when Patsy was calling 911. TRUE facts matter deary.
@@bethryan9077 Except the paintbrush used in the garrote came from Patsy's paint tray IN THE BASEMENT !!!! Right Next to Where the Large Urine Stain was later found on the carpet right outside the "Wine Cellar" Door (Which IS also Right Next to the Entrance to the Boiler Room)
Except you could be wrong.during the night, one could hear people whisper,have sex etc.
@@Prfdt3 The Boulder Police & Ramsey Investigators Both Did Sound Tests in That House & They Both Concluded That the Ramsey Parents would Not have been able to Hear Anything From the Basement on the Third Floor Master Suite. So NO, I Would Say That Is A Fact !!!
Boulder police department shame on you 😢
💯%👍
I didn't think the parents did it and I still don't .That house was huge and the kids' bedrooms were on the opposite end of the house the parent's bedrooms was, not a good idea !
Due to the extensive renovations, that was a huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards. The parent's bedroom suite was the whole of the top storey. The 4 bedrooms were on the level underneath. Burke's room was basically under their bed, JBs room was 70 feet down from his. Loads of mansions & multi-storey homes have the kid's bedrooms on a different level to the parent's bedroom.
“Integrity of the investigation…”. What a laugh.
Suggestion: has anyone considered looking at the pageant videos of JonBenet to see if any man was wearing Hitech boots?
Ya her brother was
@@RandomVids519 how do you know that and which brother? The footprint is a man size, not the brothers size
@@sharonsmakes lots of “men” wear small size boots believe it or not lol
@@RandomVids519 You are Lying for a Start & deary, it is now known, that was a Hi -Tec SHOE print. LOL.
Burke had hi tech boots..and amazingly no fingerprints on the ransom novel!! How weired is that..anyone else wldve grabbed the 3 pages and read them properly..and the Ramseys weren't exonerated. The courts wanted to endict them..
What the Boulder police has done to that family & to the memory of that little girl is DISGRACEFUL, THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!
Here we go again more questions then answers 😢
The killer may be a serial killer who works for the Boulder Police Department.
There is a reason they won't find out?? Who knows
I've said for years that same thing! Somethings definitely fishy with them
Boulder PD Certainly Does Appear to be Covering for One of Their Own !!!!
Exactly
With everything we’ve seen in the past decade, I wouldn’t be surprised if.
He is an awesome young man. I hope this family will get their answers and justice. I pray he has a good life. Beautiful children. My prayers with the Dad and boys. ❤ 🙏
Incredibly sad to see that she was so sexualized from an early age in the first place! Mothers need to stop doing this to their baby girls!!!!!
This happens in cases every day. The police and the public decides that parents/family members of missing or murdered children are guilty on a hunch. Because they don’t act/react the way the public thinks someone in this situation should act/react. (Which is interesting especially because very few people have actually been in this situation) And that means the investigation becomes biased from the beginning. In a lot of cases parents are being called murderers, they are being harassed, threatened by people who have no knowledge about the investigation or the leads. Right now for example in the Sebastian Rogers case. And sometimes yes the investigation shows that the parents are guilty BUT sometimes they are not. But at that time their reputation is for ever destroyed and they can never escape the rumors and all the treads on social media calling them a murderer. Thankfully we don’t have this issue where I live. In my country police don’t share information about a case before someone is arrested. Police don’t hold one press conference after another sharing information with the public (only on rare occasions and in really special cases) we don’t have “body language experts” watching interviews whit parents/relatives/suspects and making judgments. Media doesn’t show pictures of suspects/ someone charged with a crime before they have been found guilty. In USA there are no such thing as innocent until being proven guilty because the media and the public has already . found you guilty without any form of proof. You are more or less sentenced, you will never be fully cleared. Yes these are people we se on our screens, but they are ordinary people just like you and me. Imagine if this was you and your family. Imagine you or your family members being called murderers and being harassed…
The murderer had to know the layout of the house, in order to find her bedroom, without getting lost in the house, making noise by knocking stuff down etc.
At 8:50 the KILLER WAS EXPOSED!
@@TruckingCarsL48. What?
@@TruckingCarsL48 This Dr Oz video is from 2021. FYI - all Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago & finally Officially exonerated in 2008. And the investigation continued with Seasoned actual homicide investigators who had full Integrity & who worked tirelessly Unpaid, because Their sole purpose was to find a highly sadistic child killer. None wrote a book trying to line their own pockets so the general public are unaware of their work.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The DNA being saliva, from one of the unknown male intruders was mixed in with one spot of JB's blood in the big underpants that he & his cohort put on her, has been in CODIS since 2003. That DNA did Match the DNA from under JB's pinkie fingernails & the DNA from 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. As of the results in 2016 with advanced forensics - the 2nd unknown male's DNA, also on the long-johns & he is hispanic.
The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same.
The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have the same Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal, like xyz officers from before who are totally responsible for every single vile accusation against all Ramsey family members, still to this day.
@@TruckingCarsL48 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor.
Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome.
The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.*
The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.
The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.. Now go play.
@@TruckingCarsL48 The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carne declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carne was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor.
Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! More than one Incompetent cop had moron syndrome so this case was Never going to be solved..
The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.*
The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.
The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Lou Smit was the smartest investigator to be involved in this case. If anyone was going to solve it, he was. He just ran out of time. RIP Lou
He had a Pretty Good Idea About Who Was Behind It, It is Discussed in his former partner John Wesley Anderson's New Book: "Lou & JonBenet"
@@onesolvedmystery2274 thank you I knew he had a serious suspect, but not about the book! I’m on it! cool !
@@onesolvedmystery2274 John Wesley Anderson like soo many other investigators, clean bung Misses lots of the actual evidence to say about the Type of person/persons & so, the Who, for a Start. The evidence that was/Is in plain sight but one has to have a Very good knowledge about this case in general & to be able to do jigsaw puzzles, that have very small pieces. BTW - nobody Knows what Lou discussed with Anyone.
Lou was a GOOD MAN..and A REALLY "GREAT" "INVESTIGATOR" ALSO ...❗ THANK YOU, LOU ♥️
@@bethryan9077 Read The Book & Then Talk To Me About What Lou Did or Did Not Discuss With Others !!! 🙄
I suspected their 9-year old son Burke killed his 6-year old sister due to jealousy.
This whole family have lived with hell for so long
I read on the annivrrsary of her death 20 years later people still writing horrific things about the family
Even young Burke
It's horrible
I hope and pray that you can find true justice for all of you....😢❤😢❤
Why cant they use familial dna ??? They may get the who, but not the why, smtms. This always frustrated me. I had little ones at the time too. My ❤ goes out to this family. Praying they get answers soon ! ❤ 🙏
According to an FBI agent she was trying to say it was the father
Hello DR Oz, it has always bothered me that the small rope or string on the garrote has a knot that is consistent with a boaters kleet knot , now I maybe way off on this but it seemed very unique in the way it was tied and also did the police try to take DNA off the piece of rope or the wooden stick.
They Have Still Yet Untied That Knot, That is One of Many Pieces of Evidence the Family is Begging them to Send in For Additional DNA Collection/Sampling. Yet the BPD Continues to Drag Their Feet & Blow Smoke You Know Where 😖
Yes, PR's DNA and coat fibers were entwined in the cording.
@@peachesdixon7567 Stop trying to spread more Lies just because you have an obvious Agenda against these Proven Innocent people.
You should find the photo of the whole thing, there were several knots because it was a complex made Bondage Device & that's why the Loops over her shirt at the wrists. That was a white nylon Cord. The 'wooden stick' was a calligrapher's tool that the intruders brought with them due to it being made in Korea, as the stamp shows & they cut, broke & whittled it when there. That being made in Korea was significant to Glenn Meyer, the organiser & the author of the note. The whittling of that was for no purpose at all, except to implicate Burke as he had a Swiss blade knife & used to whittle wood & drop the bits on the floor. He got in trouble off the housekeeper for doing that & to this day she believes the utility knife found in the cellar was his, when it was Not.
This whole very well Planned crime for money & revenge was set up to implicate all Ramseys plus the housekeeper for good measure, who they knew had a key.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. The cold case team also have the go-ahead to have both perps’ DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally.
@@peachesdixon7567 Stop spreading more Lies & very Deliberately so for no other reason than to suit your own twisted Agenda against this Proven Innocent family. Grow Up.
Boulder PD needs investigated! Dragging their heels 😡
I think someone at the party they know
Neighbours.
It is unbelievable that many killers are police officers, but I think it is a regular person, but who knows anything is possible
Many..? Very few are...Why would u write something u know nothing about...
Boulder PD Is Certainly Protecting One of Their Own !!!
It amazes me that anyone could hurt a child !
May God bless her and all the children suffering 🙏
Justice will never be served
Poor Patsy went to her grave knowing she was a suspect and the shame of that certainly had to have played a huge part in her demise.
I Believe You Are Right 😔
Patsy is the one who carried her child from her bed to the kitchen where the guy John waited. Patsy left the door unlocked for him.
This wasn't the first time.
@@robinluich6626 Do You Have Actual Proof to Back This Up ??? I Highly Doubt It, Because That Is Not True !!! Tsk Tsk
Soòi sad
I always thought it was the man that played Santa. He had a record.
Santa Bill McReynolds was far too old & unhealthy to have pulled this off, But I also don't believe he had any major criminal record to speak of.
The murder could have likely been solved within 72 hours if only police had not bungled the case, and now refuse to solve it to save face I assume. I am quite sure it was a ragtag team of morons which included the house keeper and 2 -3 other people. One being that Helgoth character...and another being the housekeepers husband.
Helgoth Was A Good Suspect, but his DNA cleared him. I still think they should have looked further into his "former colleague" John Stephen Gigax, but the BPD were too focused on the Family to look at anyone else 🤬
@@onesolvedmystery2274
Agree.
Lack of dna does not clear a person @@onesolvedmystery2274
Thank you Dr Oz for Truth
This case has dna. With geneological dna tests available why can't this case be solved. At this time no one wants to finger point. Everyone justs wants the truth. This monster has been on the loose for years. Enough is enough
It can be! Boulder PD is absolutely never going to release her DNA.
@@JenP707 Sad But True, They Don't Want to Face Up to How Bad They Screwed This Investigation Up !!!
Apparently there's like next to none left to test but like cmon hundreds of cases have been solved in the last few years from genetic testing
How much longer are they gonna "wait and see"