Did you guys see at the end the numbered labels are upside down. That's because I prepped this panel the night before the installation at home. This'll be corrected by putting a new set of stickers over the originals. Details.
He's rich... Well idk this current government made it very expensive to live. Lets hope his work is Worth the pay as he deserves it. like many many of us do!
There is something soo satisfying about seeing a brand new panel in an older home - almost like a heart transplant! Nice work Ron, and thanks for making the effort to record and narrate this!
Mine too! I wish I could take more time to explain things in greater detail but I am always up against time to get the owners power back on so slowing down usually isn't an option.
How do you put the panel back together properly without labeling/pairing all your wires before taking apart the old panel? I’m curious what your approach is.
Nice work as usual Ron I completed another service upgrade last week to. I like going to the clients place a few days befor to complete upgrades and get the grounding grid in also. I had my wife out working to lol😅
I have a square D QO panel and I installed a whole house surge protector. I’m pretty sure I remember reading that square D wants the surge protector on the closest circuit breaker closest to the main breaker in order to catch any surge as soon as it exits the main breaker. It makes sense to me but I’m just a courageous DIYer that isn’t afraid of working on my electrical system…😂
I live in South Jersey and one of my friends bought a house that was a 4 bedroom 3 story house with finished attic and it had a 200 amp service. The odd thing here was it had 5 sub panels! One in the kitchen/dining room, one in the downstairs bedroom, and one more in each bedroom on the other floors! These were those small 6 space Square D panels that you can get at Lowes/Home Depot. Each panel was fed with a 30 amp 2 pole breaker from the main panel. I looked at them and they were fed with the right size cable and the neutrals and grounds weren't bonded so they were actually wired right. It just doesn't make any sense why someone would do all that in a house. My only guess was they had a lot of time and extra money lol.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Yeah. At least whoever did it had enough knowledge to float the neutral bar instead of leaving the bonding screw in and making the ground wire a redundant neutral like most hacks do lol
Hey Ron nice job. Just an FYI the expansion coupling cant hurt, but not required per 352.44(A) if you are not between TWO securely mounted cabinets, boxes etc.
Electricity travels the speed of light and so do lightning strikes. The closer the surge protector is to the main breaker, the better protection you have against surge damage for the house. I have also been told it is best to put the highest load circuits closest to the main to avoid overheating the buss bars.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey It's not nonsense as the primary purpose of the surge protector is for protecting from surges from outside the home such as lightning strikes. Surge protectors in load centers do little to protect branch circuit surges. You are correct that some surges occur from within the home. AC motors are notorious for causing surges.
Nice work as always.One question,have you had a complaint yet about the conduit being a different color/shade than the fittings?Im only asking because I have.
Not sure about the Square D SPD requirement…Whats the resistance of the bus bar from the main breaker to the bottom (or top) of the panel? Maybe 0.5mOhm? The SPDs (giant MOVs) are working against the source resistance of everything between the (and including) the secondary of the distribution transformer. Without source resistance, there is no way for the SPD to clamp the voltage. So, in theory, if the resistance of the panel bus is high enough with respect to the service cable and distribution transformer resistance, then it *could* matter to some degree. If the equivalent source resistance is like 5mOhm and the panel bus is 0.5mOhm, then the breaker closet to the service entry might see 10% higher clamped voltage compares to the breaker nearest the SPD. But if source resistance is more like 50mOhm equivalent then 0.5mOhm is practically nothing. Neglecting AC impedance for simplicity To me, seems like it most likely does not matter in any appreciable way.
@@JoeMack-rm5cs 200A Meter/ Main Eaton model number CHMMB200BTS single phase Overhead/ Underground 120/ 240 VAC SCCR 10,000 amps. 200A Eaton Cutler Hammer BR 40/ 80 circuit Indoor Main Breaker w/ plug on neutral model number BRP40B200
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Bummer! I was looking forward to the answer as I'm getting a panel upgrade next week to a Square D QO 200 amp panel and was curious what the answer was. Happy Thanksgiving!
Hey Ron! Hope all is well. Great job as always. I have a question regarding installing the expansion coupling. When you install it, do you expand the coupling a few inches out before you apply the PVC cement to each end?
Has an inspector ever failed the inspection of a panel upgrade due to the condition of the existing load side house wiring? e.g. 1950s house wiring with reduced ground conductors..or some other reason?..
@@electricianron_New_Jersey i need to go to a 200 amp. Service on a 1959 house..i was just curious if there is something lurking that could cause a lot more work than just the panel replacement...
great video Ron. how do you decide to either use 4/0 SEU cable or individual conductors up the riser mast? I've seen you use both methods. is it purely cost driven when you are buying your materials?
Hey Ron I’m Chris from northern NJ I wanted to be an electrician any advice you can give me on how to get into the industry? Having problems finding a starting point
Surprised the utility company lets you pull the meter and especially cut the service drop as that’s usually theirs and under their control. Also I didn’t see it but I hope the service drop was de-energized as a short there could cause damage to the transformer as well as causing issues to neighbors equipment.
@@libertarian1637 You can look it up over at the PSEG and JCPL websites. Both links in the description. A licensed electrician with a valid business permit and work permit can do this every day.
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@@electricianron_New_Jersey yea...you sound like a real assclown..!! if you are not wearing gloves at the point of attachment you too will have a short career
Did you guys see at the end the numbered labels are upside down. That's because I prepped this panel the night before the installation at home. This'll be corrected by putting a new set of stickers over the originals. Details.
I thought it was so when you leave the job you can read them in the rearview? lol jk
Great work my guy!
Preparing/ prefabbing like that usually comes back to bite me too lol
doing all this work in one day solo is crazy. your a beast ron
He's rich... Well idk this current government made it very expensive to live. Lets hope his work is Worth the pay as he deserves it. like many many of us do!
It takes me 10hrs to do solo on average. And that’s me movin quick!
Hello Ronny, This exact question on expansion couplings was on my contractors Exam!!!!
There is something soo satisfying about seeing a brand new panel in an older home - almost like a heart transplant! Nice work Ron, and thanks for making the effort to record and narrate this!
@@ElectricRob My pleasure.
Really appreciate the text comments -- stuff like plastic required to prevent abrasion on wires larger than 4 AWG is really useful to know.
The service upgrade videos are my absolute favorite. Good to see you back!
Mine too! I wish I could take more time to explain things in greater detail but I am always up against time to get the owners power back on so slowing down usually isn't an option.
Welcome back, Ron! I've been waiting for your next video.
Awesome! I love UA-cam and creating these videos. The best feeling is knowing that you guys not only anticipate them but learn from them too.
looks good. Only gripe is lack of water sealing behind that PVC board. Some closed cell spray foam or 3m fire block would have been mint
Pump pump label makes perfect sense 😂😂
Hi Ron, Curious if you do something to seal behind the PVC mounting panel to prevent water from getting into the sheathing?
How do you put the panel back together properly without labeling/pairing all your wires before taking apart the old panel? I’m curious what your approach is.
Nice work as usual Ron I completed another service upgrade last week to. I like going to the clients place a few days befor to complete upgrades and get the grounding grid in also.
I had my wife out working to lol😅
You’re the man! Great Job!
I have a square D QO panel and I installed a whole house surge protector. I’m pretty sure I remember reading that square D wants the surge protector on the closest circuit breaker closest to the main breaker in order to catch any surge as soon as it exits the main breaker. It makes sense to me but I’m just a courageous DIYer that isn’t afraid of working on my electrical system…😂
That is correct. I had to put mine on breaker 2&4 but it should technically be on 1&3.
I live in South Jersey and one of my friends bought a house that was a 4 bedroom 3 story house with finished attic and it had a 200 amp service. The odd thing here was it had 5 sub panels! One in the kitchen/dining room, one in the downstairs bedroom, and one more in each bedroom on the other floors! These were those small 6 space Square D panels that you can get at Lowes/Home Depot. Each panel was fed with a 30 amp 2 pole breaker from the main panel. I looked at them and they were fed with the right size cable and the neutrals and grounds weren't bonded so they were actually wired right. It just doesn't make any sense why someone would do all that in a house. My only guess was they had a lot of time and extra money lol.
@@Truckguy1970 I’ve seen a lot fuckery in my day!
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Yeah. At least whoever did it had enough knowledge to float the neutral bar instead of leaving the bonding screw in and making the ground wire a redundant neutral like most hacks do lol
Thanks for all your hard work; we all missed your videos Ron! 🏆
Thanks Chuck. I appreciate that very much.
Dang, every time I'm on the mid-watch, you put up a vid!! Makes the Watch go faster!!!
What is the mid-watch?
Love your content. Great workmanship as usual.
Hi Ron. New subscriber. Fellow Seabee here. Keep up the good work and videos
Hey Ron nice job. Just an FYI the expansion coupling cant hurt, but not required per 352.44(A) if you are not between TWO securely mounted cabinets, boxes etc.
@@stillthakoolest I put it in because the sun beats on that side of the house for most of the day. Of course I knew it wasn’t required.
Thanks
Electricity travels the speed of light and so do lightning strikes. The closer the surge protector is to the main breaker, the better protection you have against surge damage for the house. I have also been told it is best to put the highest load circuits closest to the main to avoid overheating the buss bars.
That’s nonsense because surges can develop from equipment inside the home as well as outside the home.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey It's not nonsense as the primary purpose of the surge protector is for protecting from surges from outside the home such as lightning strikes. Surge protectors in load centers do little to protect branch circuit surges. You are correct that some surges occur from within the home. AC motors are notorious for causing surges.
Nice work as always.One question,have you had a complaint yet about the conduit being a different color/shade than the fittings?Im only asking because I have.
Not sure about the Square D SPD requirement…Whats the resistance of the bus bar from the main breaker to the bottom (or top) of the panel? Maybe 0.5mOhm?
The SPDs (giant MOVs) are working against the source resistance of everything between the (and including) the secondary of the distribution transformer. Without source resistance, there is no way for the SPD to clamp the voltage. So, in theory, if the resistance of the panel bus is high enough with respect to the service cable and distribution transformer resistance, then it *could* matter to some degree. If the equivalent source resistance is like 5mOhm and the panel bus is 0.5mOhm, then the breaker closet to the service entry might see 10% higher clamped voltage compares to the breaker nearest the SPD. But if source resistance is more like 50mOhm equivalent then 0.5mOhm is practically nothing. Neglecting AC impedance for simplicity
To me, seems like it most likely does not matter in any appreciable way.
Kinda like people putting the larger loads near the main breaker. Makes zero difference. Agreed.
Good stuff today. Thanks
Great video, Thank you for sharing
like your videos and never miss me on keep doing your work I like it
Why did you not put duct seal in between the pvc board for the meter and the concrete the pvc comes out of the wall
Would you share the make/ model of the equipment you use for the service change? ie... panel, meter/main
@@JoeMack-rm5cs 200A Meter/ Main Eaton model number CHMMB200BTS single phase Overhead/ Underground 120/ 240 VAC SCCR 10,000 amps.
200A Eaton Cutler Hammer BR 40/ 80 circuit Indoor Main Breaker w/ plug on neutral model number BRP40B200
Curious of the SquareD people gave you the surge protector answer?
@@WildwoodSubRailfan convention was cancelled because of Hurricane Milton.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Bummer! I was looking forward to the answer as I'm getting a panel upgrade next week to a Square D QO 200 amp panel and was curious what the answer was. Happy Thanksgiving!
@@WildwoodSubRailfan the answer is it must be installed as the manufacturer suggest because NEC 110.3(B) requires we do that.
Hey Ron! Hope all is well. Great job as always. I have a question regarding installing the expansion coupling. When you install it, do you expand the coupling a few inches out before you apply the PVC cement to each end?
@@johnmazzocchi7116 Yes
Has an inspector ever failed the inspection of a panel upgrade due to the condition of the existing load side house wiring? e.g. 1950s house wiring with reduced ground conductors..or some other reason?..
Depends what your building department says but houses wired in the 1950's are a lot different than wiring houses today. Was this a home inspector?
@@electricianron_New_Jersey i need to go to a 200 amp. Service on a 1959 house..i was just curious if there is something lurking that could cause a lot more work than just the panel replacement...
great video Ron. how do you decide to either use 4/0 SEU cable or individual conductors up the riser mast? I've seen you use both methods. is it purely cost driven when you are buying your materials?
It’s usually by request. The PVC is better but not by much. Some people just don’t know how to install USE properly.
Hey what is the name of those connectors you use. They are awesome
Arlington
NM94X - 1/2 ko
NM95X - 3/4 ko
what are your preferred service drop connectors? Do you have a brand that are robust enough to last if the power companies stall on the reconnect?
Absolutely.
Do you double up the NM cables on the white button connectors
the listing is right on the box cover.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey What?
@@jamescollins8148 Yes.
Hey Ron I’m Chris from northern NJ I wanted to be an electrician any advice you can give me on how to get into the industry? Having problems finding a starting point
Knock on the electrical contractors door and ask him/ her for a job.
Does it matter that the new panel still does not have enough working space?
@@cross4590 it’s a concern but the rehab sub code that we have here in NJ allows it.
@@electricianron_New_Jerseythank you!
Awesome videos I’m new to service work and these help a lot!
Surprised the utility company lets you pull the meter and especially cut the service drop as that’s usually theirs and under their control. Also I didn’t see it but I hope the service drop was de-energized as a short there could cause damage to the transformer as well as causing issues to neighbors equipment.
@@libertarian1637 You can look it up over at the PSEG and JCPL websites. Both links in the description. A licensed electrician with a valid business permit and work permit can do this every day.
Love the video Ron, but the disco music is awful 😮
That plastic board on the exterior is not weather tight to the siding and old socket location.
Yeah it is.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey..I guess you didn't video the caulking and weather sealing you did..??
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there you go again.... no gloves on at the point of attachment ...
@@edwardleonard7538 whoop-dee-damn-do!
@@electricianron_New_Jersey yea...you sound like a real assclown..!! if you are not wearing gloves at the point of attachment you too will have a short career