The Tories will ‘smash through the floor with lowest ever vote’ | Lord Cooper
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- “We are talking about all historic records being shattered in this election.”
The swings in this election are “utterly unprecedented” as the Conservatives are predicted to “smash through the floor of their lowest ever vote”, says pollster Lord Cooper.
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All the tories have done is lie. Blame the poor. Blame the councils who they have witheld money from. Blame the junior doctors who they are unwilling to give a fair pay increase rise to. Blame migrants they let in.Blame labour who have not been in power for fourteen years. Blame the sick who are to poorly to work. Blame the war in Ukraine while big business made whopping prots from peoples financial despair.
The Tories have gone down with a really bad case of BSE_____ Blame Someone Else
"Do your duty" - vote the Tories out in record numbers.
@@BrokenHill56 as long as its a vote for reform, voting in Labour is like voting in Tories x2
@@2strokesmoke783Reform are tories in different clothes.
@@2strokesmoke783 You're talking out your backside
@@royboy565 Lets see, North Sea windfall tax: Labour-Tory both agree. Unnecessary lockdowns that ruined the economy: Lab-Tory both agreed. The Net zero scam that will send energy and fuel bills through the roof for no effect on climate: Labour and tories both agree. Ignoring vaccine harms: Labour and Tory both agree. Both allowed mass immigration.
So what exactly do Reform have more in common with the Tories than Labour do?
An uncontested Labour government will be a disaster for the UK, we’ll see mass immigration taken to new levels. Angela Rayner has already announced that EVERY borough will take their share of migrants. A fantastic example of authoritarian, globalist policy which will turn the UK into just another indistinguishable economic zone. Whether the Tories or Labour WEF wins.
Sunak isn't decent, nor does he care about the country.
Him and his ilk seem more interested in lining their own pockets than in the betterment of the country.
His lack of decency is best evidenced by his throwing, what, 250 of his colleagues under the electoral bus to save himself from a leadership challenge. That is truly sociopathic behaviour.
@@Hydraargyrum Someone should asked how many contracts info systems have gained since he was Chancellor and Prime minister.
Tech services biz Infosys enjoyed a 49 per cent increase in its invoices from the UK government for 2023, according to research figures.
The Indian company, founded by the father-in-law of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, has come under scrutiny as research from Tussell showed it billed £7 million ($8.87 million) in 2023, up from £4.7 million ($5.96 million) the previous year. The figure was higher in 2020 (£6.1 million / $7.73 million) and then dropped off.
Lets consign the tories to the history books, enough corruption for one life time
Stop the Tories dot Vote
@@mikesmith5139 vote labour to make sure we rid ourselves from these corrupt conservatives
@@user-rs2ky2rd7w Vote Reform not Labour or Conservative
@@user-rs2ky2rd7w Corrupt socialists instead?
@@user-rs2ky2rd7w Best bet is voting Reform then you get a decent opposition party to keep labour in check and guarantee that the Tories wont be coming back in future elections because at some point people will want to get rid of Labour.
Anyone who demonises disabled people has not a shred of decency
he's on about taking us out of the European commission for human rights to . sunak isn't uses to not getting is own way
both the tories and reform are doing that its what the right does
14 years of them helping themselves to our money. Baroness Moan PPE conservative laughing her head off in the Caribbean
Why is white collar crime so under reported.?
Because it's so prevalent.@BusstterNutt
Agree 100%, peretty sure she's been made the designated skapegoat and was really just the tip of a massive embezzlement iceberg.
You know, I feel like I've been hearing "14 years" for the last 14 years at this point. This record is almost as broken as the Tories.
“The Tories will ‘smash through the floor with lowest ever vote’ “ - that’s bad news how?
Bad news for the Tory party spokespeople at The Times, good news for the country!
That would make my day! the next 5 years without hearing the self entitled Tories poisoning the airwaves.
@@user-xu6my3uf3o If only we could say the same about Farage.
@@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn If you disrespect other voters, you've lost your argument.
You don't want to hurt a man who wears glasses do you (no matter how many british lives he has cost)?
One Tory minster asked a journalist yesterday - 'Why aren't our lies working?' Says it all.
Link to audio or....
Campbell mentioned the “normalisation of lies in politics” in a sound bite the independent media jumped on yesterday.
Because you been caught out this time
I have my popcorn ready for election night.
LOL me too :) We are going to see many high profile Tories toppled.
I'm like a kid counting down the days to Christmas.
There will be dancing in the streets.🥳
Good luck 🤞 Reform UK hated by all the right people
@@tolremme too!
Well everything the Tories do is always "world beating" to quote their favorite gaslighting phrase, so why should this be any different 🤔 😂
Sunak constantly gaslights everyone during debates. Gaslighting voters too.
Seem to be politically "oven ready", too, metaphorically speaking...... They are cooked....
14 years Osborne rinsed us and people still think the Tories are amazing..🤪
raising VAT overnight crushed any chance of economic recovery.
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GEORGE Osborne's decision to hike VAT will shave 0.3 per cent off GDP in 2011-12, the official independent forecaster said yesterday.
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George Osborne's VAT rise illustrates an unbending truth of politics: it's easier to raise £13bn from the poor than upset VIPs
not many though
What do the tories expect? Whenever the UK is in trouble the first lever the tories pull is make the poor and vulnerable pay the price. Cut benefits, cut public spending, demonise the unemployed, demonise the asylum seekers, demonise the disabled. It worked for a long time but at last people are now seeing the light.
@@SlowhandGregraising VAT is a fair way to invest in our public services. The "poor" use them more so should pay for them.
@@mccoomer what a complete crock of ****.
If you want economic growth a vibrant economy you give money to poor people because the spend it.
Give it to millionaires and it ends up locked in assets and savings doing zero for the economy.
Example low corporation tax nearly all of the additional money was spent on share buy backs a complete and utter waste of tax.
80 seats is 80 seats, too many!
agreed
Lets not be complacent folks, go out and vote.
Dont worry, we're voting Reform!
@@sonofsomerset1695 Have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
@@gregorybiestek3431 Why, so I can march in London every week against the Jews with the left?
Electoral Calculus have a very interesting prediction: Labour 450, Lib Dem 71, Conservative 60, SNP 23. Reform 19, Plaid 4, Green 4
It also has Rishi Sunak losing his seat in Richmond & Northallerton by 0.1%!
Interesting.
It was also conducted before Farage dropped his Putin-fanboy bombshell, and is completely out of step with all the other MRP polls, and with more recent snapshot polls, which have all been showing a noticable drop in Reform support since that incident.
But a poll conducted on behalf of GB News should be treated just the same as every other poll, with caution - and as giving a view of trends not of absolutes.
@marktrotter8971 the whole Russia thing has been overinflated.
If you listen to what he actually said the West gave Putin an excuse to his people to invade, which is true and the same thing Boris said.
The difference is that Farage will say what he thinks where other politicians say what will get them the most votes.
I expect Reform to get under 10 - Nigel Farage gets the publicity, but their candidates are fruitcakes.
The Times jumping through hoops here to spin the tory narrative here.
Only because they're trying to stop Reform's massive surge.
after 14 years they've reached the bottom of the barrel.we need to elect better people than these.
" they've reached the bottom of the barrel"
Err, they still have a week to find new barrel bottoms to be scraped
Tory and Labour are both useless, closely followed by Lib Dems and Green, all useless.
If we all work together, we can make sure they don’t exist after 4th July
If Labour exist so will the tories, they take it in turns.
@@sonofsomerset1695yes, but the Tory’s have been in power 75% of that time, people forget how little labour have actually been in power over the last 150 years. In reality closer to a one party system!
@@chickenbites8877The Labour party didn't exist 150 years ago they weren't founded until 1900 and didn't form a Labour government until 1924 (and that was a minority government which only lasted from January 1924 to November 1924). Before that the two parties which had taken turns at governing were the Conservative party and Liberal party.
It would be quite possible for it to be Labour and the LibDems being the two main parties taking turns at governing in the future with the Conservatives reduced to being the third party just as the Liberals were reduced to being the third party after the 1920s.
@@davidwebb4451 ok 100 years then, regardless the Tory’s have been in power he longest
Shouting "But Labour! But Labour!" as they hurtle downwards. Unrepentant, corrupt, cruel bullies to the bitter end.
It's like remainers that blame Brexit Brexit for every problem.
It will get worse under Labour before it gets better.
Surreal tho' that may sound to some that's how I read it.
60 months.
@@sonofsomerset1695
"It's like remainers that blame Brexit Brexit for every problem"
Only in your imagination. Remainers are very realistic, that's why we are remainers. We recognise that not all problems are due to Brexit, the pandemic, the Ukraine war & etc. But we can see that Brexit has made bad situations a lot worse than they would be otherwise.
I would not be surprised to see the Lib-Dems as the opposition party....
It would be very positive. I would like a Labour-Liberal government, as a Labour supporter.
Just think of the love-in at PMQs - Sir Ed Starmer asks Sir Kier Davies a question about how a policy doing good for the country could be better implemented, rather than a confrontation about why on earth the incompetant LizRishiBoris SunakJohnsonTruss is wasting public money on some divisive dogwhistling far-right anti-wokism culture-war policy that brings no benefits to anyone - except perhaps those in the far-right hierarchy or the Kremlin.
That's what I am deeply hoping for - it will be transformational
Lib-Dems support totally open borders. How well will that go down with the rest of the country? To be a 'liberal' and a 'democrat' is a contradiction in terms. Don't we already live in a 'liberal-democracy'? Democracy has been reduced to meaninglessness, because of the 'tyranny of the majority' argument. Freedom of speech has been reduced to 'correct speech' or else you'll lose your job or be imprisoned. Liberals support absolute control of our economy by the neoliberals. So, economic democracy is non-existent. Want loads more of the same, do you? Tyrannical liberalism? I asked a liberal about this and he said 'Oh well, sometimes it's necessary'. Yeah, who for?
Sorry about the bold text.
The wealth flight would be unprecedented. Well Done.
“Only a week to go” thank goodness for that 🤦🏻♂️
As the Tories keep saying, "it's what the British people want", we have had enough of the corrupt charlatans
Labour are the sister party to the Tories, both the same policies.
*THE DESPERATION* on this channel is astonishing
Times Radio is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
@@californiadreamin8423 Yes, and it's so clear, even when they try hard to cover up.
The Tories, no longer Stop the Boats, more like desperately trying to Stop the Votes
To all those people who complain about a lack of "charisma" in our leaders: perhaps you need to reflect on what "charisma" actually is, and all those people who have had it and nothing else. A lot of people thought, and some still do, that Johnson - God help us - had "charisma".
@tommymorrison6478 Johnson was installed to sell the 'pandemic' and oh how the masses fell for it!
He did but of a narcissistic kind, and he was always dodgy and any Tory clinging onto his political resurrection as one that may cause the same to happen at the ballot box is a wotsit.
Demagogues have unlimited charisma, however, I am more interested in actions and results. The say judge people by their actions, so if I am to judge on the past years then the conservatives are a steaming pile of horse manure
Tories out now 😡😡😡😡
Vote Reform or you're just as bad.
Labour government next Friday 👍reform manifesto has more holes in it than my old string vest big on promises little on detail .
@@sonofsomerset1695 Have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
@@pip1723 Labour manifesto will be ignored, all you will get is high taxes. They had to have an ED Stone in order to stick to their manifesto as they are know for ignoring it. The green taxes will particularly bite, forget having a future.
The Tories aren't even get to be the opposition. Personally I love this.
I dont care about polls and will never rely on them, go out and vote!!!
I've never been polled, polls are used to manipulate, not predict.
@@sonofsomerset1695I've been polled 3 times in my lifetime. Most of it is done on line and the last election the survation poll was nearly spot on.The party you are voting for Reform are forecasted to get between 0 and 3 seats so I wouldn't be getting the bunting out just yet.
@@royboy565 18 is new prediction
ZERO Seats!
Sorry but for the Tories it is all over, what nonsense is this that the Tories are not finished!
I beg to differ but the future will prove whoever is right. right....
I totally disagree iam related to williams who did the bet rishi told him to he's a disgrace
You muppet
Only one of them was shouting and talking over the other… Hacks!
If not for Brexit labour wouldn't have lost in 2019...
I wonder who the left will blame when Labour sends energy and fuel prices through the roof with their ignorant net zero plans, Brexit or Russia I guess, and the gullible will still swallow it and keep voting Labour.
No. Labours millstone was Corbyn. They could not shake off the incessant barrage of Anti Semitism slurs every day from the TV and print media and Corbyn didn't help by not standing up to them
Shouty rude and forked tongued.........thats Sunak...............and that bloke who asked are you two the best we have.........typical Farage question....Reform Party ..Plant.
The Tories have a new motto. "It wouldn't be appropriate to comment while the police are investigating".
Nice one. Can it be compressed into a three word slogan?
"Unprecedented swing - could easily swing back" keeps getting trotted out but largely misses the point. It's not "the swing", it's half the Tory voters abandoning the Tory party because they're too disgusted to carry on voting for them. Until that changes disappointment with Starmer will not be enough to revive them.
THE MOST ANNOYING THING IS THAT BORIS WON'T BE BLAMED FOR IT.
WHEN HE IS TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE.
The Tories have scored more own goals than a blind centre back .. what did they expect
If you can't argue a case, blame the polls. What a superb way to defend the indefensible.
Clever but not an original idea.😂
@@graemeyetts3465 So truth's a constant. Don't expect constant innovation from me, please, I try to find a path forwards, but in this case, DNR is on the top page of the case notes. Something must follow, but with a strict bar on anyone mixed up in this crash. They cannot be trusted, have no judgment, and the first step is to get this election done. Once we know where we are, then we can find a path forwards.
Starmer had no option but to join in the shouting due to an undisciplined PM and a totally ineffective adjudicator or was she as right wing as they could manage!!??
The moderator was obviously bias
@glynsmith4590 Sunak's answer to everything is repeating utter lies and when challenged, raising his voice and shouting the same lies. It's breath taking this man is anywhere near government.
@@Dude-etiquette biased
@@sirbarringtonwomblembe4098 Biased, you are right
@@Dude-etiquette The BBC is pro Tory and Fiona is pro Tory, her husband works for the Tories!
Why do they always show that guy smirking and chewing his pen when he's not party to the discussion?
was wondering that too
The elderly man who asked are you two the best your parties have got was interviewed in the spin room. His two major concerns were inheritance tax and fuel duty. Obviously concerned about the state of the country and his fellow citizens NOT. Tories still have further to fall. Shy tories yes because they cannot look themselves in the mirror.
Who would have thought installing a leader no one wanted, not even the members, would lead to problems.
As opposed to what? A leader that a majority of the country wanted and who was a liar and an incompetent, corrupt, clown? That leader?
That isn't really the problem what we've seen along with Liz Truss is the complete failure of Thatcherism, the current bunch are so welded to that ideology they cannot comprehend why deregulation and trickle down tax cuts has turned our economy into a stagnant cesspool yet their answer is to double down on the very thing that has failed for 14 years.
@@tommymorrison6478 Maybe they are refering to the leader that tanked the economy and got outlasted by a lettuce.
@@superhumantrueman Truss was the darling of the City of London, job done.
Politics isnt rocket science. As a country Our debt has trebled ..at the same time millionaires and billionaires have trebled their wealth....while ordinary people have seen their incomes nosedive comparatively.....this is where things have to change !!
But how does that happen with an endless supply of Labour? You will be voting to get poorer under Labour.
It's been over a century since the Liberal Party was replaced by Labour as one of the two main parties. Not entirely impossible for the Conservatives to lose entirely and be replaced.
The Tories are the great survivors of UK politics. They are this time running close to the edge.
It’s over for them they can never win an election again with reform being there
This time, it's Alzheimers. Their thinkers have deserted them, and if the only argument is duty, they're unelectable. Many don't consider Sunak decent, after crashing the economy for a quick cash raid in 2008, and then presuming we identify with them. In a way, this call to loyalty is a form of patriotism, defined in the first dictionary as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
If tories are the opposition then they will come back in some form. If they don't come second, then their funding will collapse and they may be gone.
Probably. But it could also happen that a third party impresses the voters instead, and the Tories are relegated to the margins at the next election.
Which is why its best for Labour voters to consider Reform as they would be a good opposition unlike the Tories and the alternative is keeping the Tories around like a bad stink and them returning at the next election 2029.
Why this constant focus on two individuals? It's not a presidential election, we are voting for parties & platforms.
Time for the voting public to have their revenge!!
Spare a thought for journalists who must be running out of ways to say that the Tories are heading for a wallop the scale of which keeps looking worse and worse for them.
Excellent news. Lowest ever Tory vote - The only disappointing thing is that it wont be low enough, unless it's fewer than 50 seats.
Its only excellent news if their partners Labour were also going to be the lowest ever.
Stop the Tories dot Vote
I’m looking forward to contributing to the Tories having their worst ever defeat. They need to be taught a lesson they won’t forget that a torrent of lies, venal cruelty and off the charts corruption won’t go unpunished in an election.
They didn't "shout over each other"; one shouted over the other, and we know who that was!
Who is the male presenter, he sits there with a self satisfied smug look on his face all the time, I take it he's the most intelligent person in the country and knows everything
Improvements in life expectancy have slowed in the UK since the early 2010s. A recent study argued there have been over 300,000 excess deaths during this period, when comparing trends in life expectancy with those from before 2011. The authors of the study argue this is a result of austerity policies pursued by the government
This needs to get more publicity.
In the US we have 2 unelectable candidates, the first an old old man, the second an old dishonest man. In the UK we have a 2 unelectable candidates, the first an political coward who had the power to fix problems and chose not to, and the second an pathetic lefty. What has the world come to......?
Populations of voters that are the mother lode of low awareness, low education, & high xenophobic public. That is when they began to use the same tactics on both sides of the pond. Drum-up anger at immigrants, cultural wars, “others” keeping “you” in fly-over country or the Red Wall down, etc. Why do you think a significant part of the Tories are now fervent far-right wingers just like our Repubs? Even your media is following the same “socialism is evil” mantra.
Two Reform MPs? That party will be split in no time at all. It's the Nigel Farage show or no show.
Good, glad to see the back off the criminals. Hopefully the investigation into Sunaks Fraud will go to court.
What do they expect?
Even unintelligent people can see we've all been shafted for 14 years.
Tories are toast.
Now, it is merely a matter of the colour of the bread when it pops up.
If only Screaming Lord Such was still around to stand against the PM - there is a fighting chance he'd have got in. Not Sunak's fault though, he was always the sacrificial lamb - handed a poison chalice in the run up to the election, pre-determined by Johnson and Truss to be a monster disaster for the Tories.
All Tories are evil...end of!
They threw in the towel when they singed the agreement promising Islam things they shouldn’t have done . Then tried to hide it but we all know now
This is what happens when you do the opposite of what your voters want.
And selling out to the Whisky Echo brigade like Labour. Wait until they realise what they have let in.
A super manority is an amercican thing. You only need a majority of 1 to have all the power in the UK. More MPs give you some protection against rebels, up to a point. Wish supposed experts would stop talking about a supermajority as if its a thing in the UK. It isnt.
One, I would define it as any majority of 100 or more seats. Two, I support Labour having a very large majority. However, If a party has that amount it would take more than 80 rebel members of that party to disrupt any legislation that the party wished to pass. Since the usual number of rebels in any party -left or right - is about 30-40 members the ruling party not only does not have to worry about the opposition but it also does not have to worry about upsetting its own somewhat more ideological MPs. That can lead to some unusual legislation.
Who is this person?
Lord Cooper of Windrush. Wikipedia says it all.
Won't another election loss for the Tories be Tony Gallagher as editor of The Times? He is so out of step with the readership; post election map Times times sales to constituency colour and it overlay red and yellow. Bet there aren't many sales in Clacton. Something has to be done as the paper is currently heading down the path of the Telegraph, which will not exist come the next election.
Its time for the Tories to standdown and give Reform UK a clear run.
More like the behavour of the Cons / Tory Party over the past 14 year's...not just 4 or 5 years....
27 years between the two main parties has led to the state this country is in and the fools are letting it happen all over again.
"Ground-Breaking"
Front-runners to be the biggest losers of all time
This supermajority thing is a load of guff. It’s just a majority. Supermajorities aren’t a thing in British politics. However if we get a Tory superminority I’ll be pleased to see that exist…..
That old man who asked if these two are the best we could manage - he appears to have grown older but none the wiser. What a pointless question
He was a prize example of a Gammon.🙃
Or a Reformer who sneaked in
@adblocker276 It's a very good question, we have millions of intelligent able bodied adults in this country and like he said these two are the best we can come up with. Doesn't say a lot about the people of this country, when anyone is looking at either of these two to lead us!!!
@@boota1979 I do like gammon,clever reformer,so it is a very good question AND I am an old man of 90.
@@johnburniston6525 I don't understand the first six words of your comment, I am the last person to use the term gammon and I'm not a Reform supporter...
That Sunak is an utter rotter, is beyond dispute
never forget what they did to the older people during lockdown, that without their parties should never allow them to have power again
Voting for the Tories implies that there is at least something *to* conserve.
The areas where Conservative voters lost faith in the current leadership, e.g immigration, high taxes, DE&I policies, are all going to get worse under Labour. Conservative voters are just not going to reward betrayal. Labour will now face the country on these matters and will
Soon face the heat.
Delighted
The guy with the pen scrunshing up one side of his face is driving me up the wall!!
Tories heading for a 'World Beating' loss... Oh, the irony...
thanks access media!
Sunak made his fortune betting against the UK in 2008 he has no decency it's why he still hasn't apologised for party gate or his wife's non Dom status
Just voted Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎ Never will vote for Tory Starmer!!!!
This pollster is deliberately obtuse. The 155 figure was a high, it never has been a low or an average the last week. This guy is a Tory apologist.
What’s that guy there chewing his pen, is he the clown act for viewer distraction?
I reckon if they get 7 million votes, they'll be doing cartwheels. They got nearly 14 million in 2019.
Sunak would never be able to give all this tax back to people,the debt they have put us in would sort that out,its all bull
Tories do not want to vote for Sunak as his agenda is way off line. Labour are deeply unhappy with Starmer as the old Corbanista now is a pale shadow of what he really once was & is aimless. Farage is mainly Immigration focused & Davey acts like a clown. Greens take in Islamist & have lost the plot. So voting is not obvious is it?
To expand on the point about why the two major parties have a lower vote share these days, I think it was borne out of the Brexit referendum, as we all realised, that politics was no longer just a battle of Left-versus-Right, but that other parties may also have specific policies, which appealed to us, so the broad-church parties became less appealing. What should a Tory Remainer or a Labour Leaver do, and what about social values, be they liberal or conservative? Voters are asking which party understands their demographic in terms of age, social class, educational level, etc. All those factors have driven people to look beyond the battle between the two big parties, and that was much less the case before the Brexit referendum, as we all knew then that we were either right-of-centre or left-of-centre, and that was largely as far as it went!
Why are the undecided shy Tories? Undecided could be non voters?
Tossing platitudes at each other is good laugh.
Rishi x
Good. Thursday can't come soon enough.
Sunak decent .wasn't he fined when party gate was in full swing yet stood up in the HOC stating his innocence before hand .
According to one poll, "None of the above" lead by a country mile ;-/
The establishment are giving Nigel Farage the Trump treatment.
The “ interesting question “ asked by a Farage stooge. He stood out a mile.
What makes you think Sunak is decent? He's literally passed laws to benefit his own family and no one else.
Not saying anything either way, but Kier Starmer does have a piece of secondary legislation that applies only to him (as all ex-DPPs do): “The Pensions Increase (Pension Scheme for Keir Starmer QC) Regulations 2013”
@@arwelphe didn't pass that law.
Why are people talking about "supermajority" that is not a thing in our countries.
Not listening just vote reform let’s get it done
Oh goodie goodie cant wait
How seriouly should we take these polls? With a massive pinch of saly, me dear.
He never had public backing Rishi was forced on us his own party didn't even want him as leader
It felt like an all Tory audience clapping for Sunak
they clapped at his nonsense n lies . it's painful