2024 BMW F 900 GS Trail Tested - A completely New Bike! Compared to KTM 890 Adv R
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
- THE NEW ADV KING? Thanks to @biketrollhattan4412 for lending me the demo BMW 900GS. Watch the video and see my take on this bike, subscribe for more content like this and ADV.
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This is without the best looking BMW bike in a while now. I really like the look of this colour and front. Great first impressions Tjommi, and thank you so much for showing us how this bike should be played with 🙌🏻 The reckless 10 looks really well on this also, How was the tires? I did not hear you mention anything about that? Seams like a good 50/50 Tire. Cheers 🥃
Karoo 4 fitted by bmw
I actually mentioned that i had nothing to complain about with the tires and that i hated the previous Karoo 3. These performed way better than the Karoo 3 and as well the MitasE07 that came with my 890R. This bike is honestly great, loved it. Cool that BMWis in the game again. The R10 was like "handen i handsken" at his bike, just perfect fit! Look slike it was made for i 😁👍. Go try it Tjommi! Would like to hear Your take on it 👍
I have a R9T Urban GS which I will fit Karoo 4's on soon. I have them on my T7 and they do good. Yes slick on the rocks but a good general 50/50 tire. @@Braapncamp
The Karoo 4's were WAY much quieter than my Motoz Deserts, when i threw my leg over my bike and rode home it was like, WTF! What a noise in comparison. But tthe Deserts perform better when pushing it. These Karoo 4's feels like one of the better 70/70 tires out there! Great as OEM tires on the bike, most riders will probably be rather happy with these and use them until it's time to change. The 790/890R's come with tires that you want to change, if not just ADV travelling.
@@Braapncamp Interesting, I know how bad the Karoo 3 was, so it is really good to hear they stepped up with this one. Hahaha, yeah I think I have some clips from riding behind you to Latvia where you can hear that noise. it is insane 😂🙈
A great video, thank you. Nice to see in its natural habitat- the bike looks awesome and very well thought through
Thanks 🙏 It was a fun ride and great to take it out in the woods. I would say they nailed it!
Saw one of these in my local shop and drooled over it. Definitely on the list for potential adv bikes in my future.
It definitely impressed on me in it's whole package.
Superbra video.
Jag har beställt en i svart och ser fram emot leverans i början på maj
Tack 🙏 Grattis till en fin hoj! 😁🙌.
Den skulle jag gärna vilja ha, djupt in i de Värmländska skogarna! Som vanligt, amazing video! Ta hand om dig
Tack 🙏 I de skogarna hör alla hojar hemma och denna hade inte gjort bort sig 😂👍
Hi Mattias. Good review and must say, you look well. Great watching again.
Thanks 😅👍😂
Good that BMW is back in the ADV game with an attractive and functional new version, Mattias. Cheers, Günter/Nürnberg
Agree on that, I want more competitive bikes from the manufacturers. Both in this class and in the 150-160Kg class (rideaway weight), better for us! Cheers Günter 🍺
Looks like they took a few cues from my Husqvarna Ex. Yep, I'll consider that a complement or at least some form of validation that I made a good choice. Bucketing down today or I'd be out riding, so nice to watch someone else tearing through the woods. Vicarious thrills, thanks Mattias
Thanks 🙏 A fun ride! I expect the Husqvarna Ex. To be very similar to my 890R with some thweaks on the ergonomy. Happy Trails! 🙌
Great review, great cinematography and sound as always, must be great to live in Sweden with all your gravel roads and forests, also to be allowed to ride off road in your country must be wonderful.
Having visited Sweden only on short visits I must say it is one of my favorite countries in the world and the people are great👍🏻
Thank you for this great channel
Thanks my friend, much appreciated. I get amazed myself while traveling, there is something everywhere. 💪🤠🔥
In Norway NOK 222.200 for the configuration you rode. It has 14.5 liters tank. I Norway a KTM 890 AdvR is NOK 212.000. The KTM has better suspension travel and a 20 liters tank volume and is slightly lighter even with the bigger tank. Same hp but KTM has slightly better max torque at the same rpm. KTMs has 15000 km service intervals, the BMW only 10.000. If you ride a lot you will appreciate longer service intervals. I think that is under-communicated, because it influences on the total cost of ownership. I dont like to deliver bike for service mid-season. The KTM probably has a lower centre of gravity due to the tank assembly. When looking at the pure data the KTM seems to be a better buy but of course....the feel of the bike for the intended use is very important. I rode a KTM 890 AdvR on gravel in Spain. It is an awesome bike. I would keep my KTM, but I know you are only testing hehe...... cheers.
Thanks Sven for your comparison and insight 🙏 It surprises me that BMW go for 10000Km service, that nay have something to do with how they source the engine? Valid points. For sure i think that the smaller fuel tank is a drawback, on paper the KTM (my own bike) looks better, in the reality and feel when you ride it, this bike does better than one may think. Would not be surprised if the proffessional reviwers will end out with a draw between the bikes, winning different categories. This bike is potent and fun. ...and You know how orange i am 👀😂
@@Braapncamp Yes you are orange 😂 but still able to do fair reviews of other bikes...just as it should be. And your experience on the KTM is very valuable when doing it. I have to admit I love KTM solution of the tank....serving to lower CG and also as a "protection" for other parts. I hope they will stick to it and develop it.
Thanks Sven 🙏 It would surprise me if KTM leave the great tanks solution, they developed the 1290 to get that solution on the latest version as well and thatvreally makes difference on the newer version. Itvis probably more expensive solution in both design and parts but make it stick out and really take the Dakar heritage seriously and not just by the looks. I would think though that the Katie tank solution gives some nightmares for the engineers to design and work around the engine cooling?
You belive that 15000km service interval it is good for KTM engine? If you check Japanese bikes manual, they always recommend change oil within 5000-6000km. Even you can by yourself check engine oil capacity, if volume less that's is reason change oil often.
Thats how it is, You change oil between the factory service intervals, especially if the riding style is anything else than touring style. If unsure, test the oil. no one believes anything here. I have always at least halfen the service intervals on my 690, 790, 890 and as well my earlier 1200GSA and othe bikes. My KTM's get new oil at 5000Km's. All service books states that shorter service intervals are required if the bikes are ridden in competition or harder than normal use or similar.
I literally fell in love with this bike especially with green version
Aka the Mountain Dew ☝️😁
Looks like a nice ride! Nice review thanks for sharing.
Thanks Marc 🙏 Time for some camp outs, actually planned to take this beast for a camp out, duties got in the way...
Love your vid! 👍👍
Thanks! 🙏 Much appreciated 😁👍
Good review Mattias. The F 900 GS is receiving good reviews in the USA as well. Good to see you out riding and enjoying life after the winter. I like a bike you can ride from the showroom and proceed RTW without having to spend a damn fortune trying to bring it up to snuff. This seems very capable. Premium level machine fully equipped as it should be for the money. The best of times for motorcycling. Take care my Nordic ADV friends. See you
Thanks my friend 🙏 This fully speced version just seems to need a proper bashplate and maybe a rear rack, pending on what type of luggage to be used. But thats fair i think. It is truly fun to be out riding again Sam! Yet the real spring is just in its beginning. A good sign is that the cranes are moving in and gather for breeding, meeting other bikers both on roads and in the woods. We are on it again! Cheers 💪🤠🔥🍺
Tack för en härlig film.
Tack för at du kollar på sånt här med 🙏, kör du hoj själv utöver vår gemensamma husbilsintresse? Fasen, jag har världen härligaste videomaterial från Lofoten/Frekkofisket/Kebnekaiseturen sen i somras med vanen, har inte tagit mig för att göra något med det, men materialet är verkligen topp. Får ta mig i kragen med det för jag tror att det kan uppskattas inom husbils och utelivssegmentet. Var blir det till påsk? Ha det gott där ute!
@@Braapncamp Nej Mattias tyvärr ingen 2 hjuling men det ser jäkligt fränt ut när du kör. Ja du sa du hade en massa material när vi träffades sist. Ser verkligen fram emot när dom släpps. Troligtvis blir det premiär turen med husbilen om väder å vind är med oss. Ska ni ut med plåtisen i påsk ? Ha det så bra och hälsa den andra halvan så gott ifrån oss 🙂
Japp blir att fira hos dottern i påsk! Då har vi gäststugan med oss 👌
Have you seen the render rade garage made with a rally screen? Soooo good looking!
Nope, missed that out. Will check! 👀😁
Hi mate, thanks for the great review! Did you weigh this motorcycle? Is it the claimed 219kg or close to it? Or is it heavier for this enduro model?
Thanks, no i did not weigh the bike. Will be interesting to see the first real life weight of this bike fueled up. This demo bike was just half filled with fuel.
Var och tittade på en för några veckor sen. Tycker de har lyckats bra med denna.
Håller med 👍
Tack för en trevlig review som vanligt, är riktigt sugen på en sån, men även nya Triumph Tiger 900 rally pro är jag nyfiken på. Så en review på en sådan hade varit kul!
They are closer than ever the F900gs and the tiger 900. Does the triumph still have only one side of the headlight working on low beam that's one thing I don't like.
That would be interesting, never bee into the Triuphs. It's a shame that i've been too lazy to test one. The suspension on the 900GS Is really impressive.
beautiful bike, for sure.
It is! And BMW isn't really known to make beautys 😁👍
I saw your comments on MADTV on the DUC Desert X rally. How about a test of one of those. Fun machine. And that single, yeah we know it will be an ADV version coming. Take care.
Haha, MAD TV is a must to watch, Dave is cool 😎. I have tested the Desert X, definitely cooler to ride than i thought, but also much more linear engine character than i thought. I doubt i will get my hands on that Rally Bike has on the floor. But it would be nice! Next test will be the T7 Extreme 👌. Cheers Sam!
I like this bike it is a real endurobike for dirt, i wana make a Testride too... Great to see your on dirt some things are not protected like the water pump and else.
It is a potential ADV bike, and fun to ride. 😁✊️✊️
You have to try the tiger 900 rally pro ... value for money I would say !
Would be awesome, never tried that triple... which is a shame. Need to take a spinn on it one day.
Thanks for this review! 😀Certainly interesting and informative! Could I ask you, what could be the ONE main thing holding you back from replacing your 890 with this one? Cheers.
Haha, thanks. That was a too difficult question to answer. I just love the 890R package, many details. But other than that, i really do not have much to complain about with the 900GS, fuel range maybe? But nothing physical with the bike. My bike is too new to replace as well, the trade would be a hard hit i think.
@@Braapncamp 😀 I get it. Thanks, Mattias 👍 Your 890R is cool. However, as mentioned by others here, the 900 is indeed a handsome one.👌 Thanks again for the review!
Bra test 😊👍🏻
Tack Henrik! En fin maskin 👌
Suzuki 800 de, Honda TransAlp. Definitely a Triumph 900 GT Pro 2024 Good camera work on the vid.
Thanks Sam, would be cool to test them out. Had a closer look at my friends Transalp when we had the motoshow in Stockholm, it looked and felt (static) more like a touring bike. But would be cool to try anyway, heard that the engine is nice.
I picked mine up on Wednesday. Significant improvement over the 850. Much better bike in every respect. A couple of things I'd like to see improved though. First, to put a center stand on it, the website says you need to lower the suspension?! Hopefully, that's not the case. Second, there are no grab points on the back. If you drop it, where are you going to lift it from? Or just moving it around the garage. And it appears BMW hasn't come up with something yet. Third, the side stand is a little short. When you tip it on the side stand, it seems to go over much further than the 850. So, I can see it sinking in soft soil pretty easily. The sear is hard and narrow, but the aftermarket will take care of that. Those are the only things I've noticed so far. Otherwise, it is a fantastic bike. It looks great, rides well, and I'm quite excited about it.
Congrats to the beast! Why not get a enduro trail jack instead of a centerstand? A sidestand foot extension might solve the issue with the sidestand. I also thiught about the side stand, but i put an extension in the anyway (experiences problems without them... 🙈😅). You could carry a strap to sling on the rear if needed. Happy Trails and cheers to the new bike!
This bike has a very nice license plate holder design from factory
Definitely nively rounded upp in the rear end. Will be cool to see what Perun Moto will come up with for the ones that wnts to pack up the bike for ADV 👌
Great video!!! NEXT,…. Compare the 990!!!!!
Thanks 🙏 That would be awesome 💪🔥
Sup mate did you see Kove800x its all the rage right now , the lightest adventure 🦄👌🏿
I may have the oportunity to test a Kove 450 and 800 in May, I'm arranging an ADV Camp at Overland Adventure Expo and part of the show together with friends. We just got Kove into the exhibitors among others 👍.
Great Vid Mattias...I personally think the bike looks absolutely great! However, I think the competition with the KTM 890 Adv R, Tenere & Ducati Desert X are still way infront with relation to offroad biased & weight etc. Like you say seating position does look stretched to the handlebars especially if a shorter rider and a little exposed on some parts of the bike so protection guards and skid plate is definitely required. thanks
Nahhh, i would like to place it next after the 890R infront of the Desert X and definitely the t7 😁👍 But this is ofc all personal preferences, i just compare practically things, exposed parts even with better bashplate and how top heavy they are, suspension etc. It is actually nice, but expensive. I will test the T7 Extreme as next object 😁👍✊🏻✊🏻 Thanks my friend!
@@Braapncamp - KTM all the way!!! 💪🏻
@@sprockets_shafts ✊🏻✊🏻😁
Have you tried the Aprillia Tuareg
Nope 🙈 A friend at work have one and have only glared at it. What i can see it gets all in great reviews, so i should go and test it just for fun. To me it looks like a winner in function/price/capability.
Certainly better than a 1200 but it still a big beast and which is apparent on the single trails. Of course that's not an issue if the intended use is dirt and sealed roads. Thanks for sharing
For primary trailriding there are better tools, but this is capable of doing it and with a smile. Even my 890R is a beast ridden with a smile pretty much everywhere. These bikes are multitools in the upper end. Cheers!
The 900 GS certainly looks the part, Rally all the way!
Definitely good looks, engine is nice in the highest throttle response setting and elastic. Suspesion up to task. 👍
How do you compare it with your 890? You had a few passing comments but would like to hear more of a head-to-head comparison. I am considering either this bike or the KTM. My concern with the KTM is its reliability and how it rides on the road. Thank you! Fantastic video.
Never had a the 790R or the 890R to ler me down or missed a single beat. But for sure, BMW habe better warranty policies than KTM if shit happens. There is something specialnwith the KTM. Very purpose built and pure Joy on road/offroad. The 900 Beemer is closing up and are a different animal than the earlier model. A great bike for ADV and it does great on the trails. You need to test them, but both bikes will make You having fun to the fullest for ADV.
Here in Canada the 890R has a one year warranty and the BMW has three years. That has real $$ value when comparing prices. (But I just traded my F850GS for a 1290 SAR anyways)
I have a F800Gs the F850gs wasn't enough to temp me with the increased weight and smaller tank. This F900gs looks like waiting was the right choice
Agree, this is a completely different bike in a positive way.
@@Braapncamp yes, it looks like the fixed the poor front suspension from the F850 which was the main criticism I had. Extra power is nice, less weight is just them playing with numbers.
How much does this bike weigh? I went to the bmw website and so many of the equipment is "optional". If one buys the top variant, what would be the weight?
Someone must put it on the scales! I could have done it 🙈 As You say, in what state is the weight speced. With all the goodies it's definitely not the weight of the base version.
Would you say that this gs is more capable off-road than your 890 r ? I’m looking to buy one of these and can’t decide. And I can’t get a test ride of the 900 yet in my country
Hi, no these are so close so it will be the riders capability that makes difference (as always). Looking at the specs only, the 890R has it's specs to it's favour to pretty much all bikes in the 900 category. Your choice should more go to what feels best for you. What the dealer feels like for you. If heart beats harder for one of them. The BMW is a fresh bike in the family of ADV bikes. The 890R is in the details engineered purposemade. Awesome bikes both of them and You will have fun with any of them in the same situations.
@@Braapncamp thank you very much. Loved the video by the way😊
Thanks 🙏
When I look at the website, I see that there is no bag that can be attached to the sides or back. is this true
Looks line BMW will come up with bags, probably some supplier issue. There are knobs on the rear end sides to fasten luggage.
Had an F850GSA. It wasn’t nice. I think the 900 is an improvement but I am now converted to orange. Changed to KTM 1290SAR which I find is superior than the 1250GSA I had. Absolutely love orange.
I could imagine that feeling ✊🏻✊🏻🤌🏻 The 1290 SAR is a beast and feels far more competent in manya reas compared to the MonsterKuh GSA's 😂👀. I made a testride video on the new 1290 SAR when it was released. Fun as h*ll. A real license killer 🙈 and competent enogh to take uout on the trails with confidence. ORANGE is ✊🏻✊🏻💪🔥
You have to try the Ducati Desert X Rally, Honda CRF1100L with Electronic suspension and lastly the MV Agusta LXP Orioli and the new Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro.
Digiman my fiend, thats a list! The DX Rarrly stands on the floor at Bike, not sure though if i can take it out like the 900. Did it with the Desert X when it was released. Not sure what real different there is. I will probably try the T7 "Extreme" when my bike goes to service, need a lend bike that day.
Ducati Desert X Rally
Upgraded KYB Suspension made with MX components, longer travel.
Lighter Wheels from Excel.
Integrated Öhlins Steering damper.
A lot of Billet parts, lighter & stronger.
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A nice video. How does it actually compare to your KTM 890ADV R in terms of suspension, engine and electronics? Would you consider switching to GS900?
If I were into the market for a new bike, it would be a possible choise. The suspension definitely up to task for tough ADV. (I do not ride hard enduro...) Engine is really nice in Dynamic mode and over all more elastic than the 790/890 engine (my feeling). I turned down the effects of electronics as much as possible to feel the bike and that worked nice. It is much better feeling on this bike than the older 850, BMW has definitely worked their way closer to the 890R. Probably one of the closer bikes out there right now. If You ask me what next bike would be, it depends If I stay in the middle weight class or move lighter. With that said, i'm superhappy with my 890R ✊️✊️
@@Braapncamp thx and cheers mate!
@@mp2140 I updates my answer on the engine, it feels slightly more elastic than the 790/890 engine. 890 feels more elastic than 790 as well. Probably this is desireable for most ADV riders. When on ride outside with buddies, thats not really something yiu think about since the lower revs and lack of usingvthe gearbox is less probable behaviour... 👀😂
Need to test this bike. Sad is that compression ratio means required high quality petrol, which is not available in Mongolia, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan... also 14,5l tank will push you alway lookin petrol station when you will do long way trip. Interesting subframe, which has not a lot of holes to fix rack for a luggage... only one thing is good - BMW really now thinking to cut weight that is great. Bike weight near of 800GS
Definitely worth a test 👌 Not sure if the bike have a low fuel quality setting.
Kanske dax att byta ned sig ifrån 1200adv , som är lite klumpig på det mindre vägnätet 🤔 Men det kommer väl en ADV modell på denna med ? 😊
Ser ut som att det kommer en Adv modell, finns bilder på den men... uuuh den var inte lika "Rally". Den här är ju cool!
Rode it 2 days ago. Rough engine and heavy. Same weight as an early 1200gs that has a 6 litre bigger tank. Very disappointed. What's with the 17 inch rear and not much rear suspension travel?
I agree on the 17 inch rear, something BMW seems to like for some reason. Not sure why... I would choose this one over the 12-1300GS any day.
@@Braapncamp 1200 is good two up. I collect bikes and have 12 adv bikes in the collection. my favouite atm is the tuareg 660. sort of like your 890R. I rode the 1300gs too. I didn't want to like it but it surprised me. I still won't buy one.
@@volvogt21 n+1 for You then 😂👍. A friend have the 660 Towrag, never tried it though but have only heard good.
Thanks for the review. Mmmm husqvarna fe501s or …. the much heavier bmw 900gs. Here in the pacific northwest its a $2000 difference. The husky need more $ put in though. Hey could you do a review on the husky? Be great to know what you think about the differences between the bmw adv bike and the husky dualsport.
Haha, these bikes are in totally different leauges! Should not really be compared, but the Husqvarna 901 Ex. is comparable with this Beemer. a FE501 is a weapon for tougher trailriding and could ofc be ADV'ized with a tower, larger tank and comfort saddle. I would love to have one!
Thats my dilemma. Looking for that mountain all around weapon that can get me there with competency and a bit of comfort. When the nice potholed gravel road ends and steep rocky inclines start and some smaller trails branch off will the bmw be nimble enough to handle it or will I be constantly picking up sub 500lbs… does it tractor well? 🤔🤔
Where the gravelroads and forest roads ends, the middle weight bikes are too heavy to be fun. That will be alot of workout! It is a bit of pick and choose where You will excel with the bike. The AJP PR7 is a great bike that does it all out of the box. Works for travel and enduro. Comfort and nice gear ratios for it all. I have made a testride video on that with extended riding. I really like it and still have it in my head if i swap.
That is great! Thanks for your thoughts! I am going to look into the AJP.
Hi
Please review the braking of the motorcycle, since it has axial brakes and not radially mounted 4 piston callipers.
Thanks!
This is interesting, i did not review this technically. But the 850 felt like it had more powerful brakes when i tested it new, this compared to my then 790R. These ones felt more like my 890R but still distinct and good breaks. Definitely great for travel and ADV.
@@Braapncamp Thanks for the input, and big cheers for making straightforward and interesting videos. Do you think these axial mounted brakes were intentionally put, considering the price of the motorcycle, since it’s oriented towards dirt? I believe so, radially mounted are definitely sharper and has more feel into it. But, hopefully these ones are tuned to the highest levels, like you mentioned. Only one thing I was most curious about were brakes, rest it will surely kick some ass around it’s competitors.
Thanks and Stay Well 🙏🏽
@@farmersidd Weight/Purpose/Actual need for performance or simply economy, not sure how BMW made their decision on the from brakes. They bite well though 👌 Living in the Alps or Norway and the brakes matters more than on our forest trails 😂 Thanks 🙏
is it top heavy like t700?
It didn'y feel that top heavy, You sit more on top of this than you feel you do at the T7. It was not fully fueld up thogh, about half tank when starting out.
You say your next bike you will go with something lighter .What would choose for your next bike for off road and commuting?
It depends, not decided yet. A twin but preferable light but powerful 😂 or a thumper ready for adventure riding and inspired riding on the trails. My 890R is still too new to swap for anything (i think) and it's a great ADV bike, just eats it all. I remember why i choosed the 790R and later this 890R, the platform is awesome if You only stick to one bike in the garage. This 900GS is in the same league, so if in the market for a new "middleweight" this is a top candidate, the updates has taken it there. 👍
@@Braapncamp thank you for your reply currently I have a 2018 R1200GS that I do I ride off road in single track and difficult trails that others would not go through I was taught by a German in Los Angeles, also have Gas Gas EC250. Iam 56 good physical shape I was thinking maybe in the future a KTM 500 😊
Cool, i did the same with my -07 1200GSA, rode it where most people don't. But it was fun in it's own way. Capable bikes if you stop thinking of what it is 😂 Heavy pig though when stuck. A 500 i a better tool for trails.
Hade uppskattat en testkörning av V strom 800 DE . Mvh Jocke
Det hade varit coolt, dels att jämföra den med 890 och 900 men också för att jag haft en DR800 (DrBIG) och rest runt på. En grön/gul -95'a. Den gjorde sig bra på stigarna.
Really good looking bike. It seems like BMW has done the home work better with this bike than the 850. Does it feel less top heavy than the 850?
I like the yellow colour better than this one, but this one looks great as well.
It's a fair bit lighter anyway. The fuel tank is smaller and made of plastic. It feels lighter just getting it of the side stand.
@@chrishart8548 That sounds good It can be a real challenge to get a tall bike of the side stand for a vertically challenged person as me. I hope I will be able to test the 900 this summer 🤩
You should go an test it immedialtley Jonas, i'll wait for You at the coffee machine 😂👍 This bike feels less top heavy than the 850 and the home works is done on every point it seems to me.
@@Braapncamp Looking forward to the “Bike Coffee” I have booked a visit in my calendar in the end of April, I hope to meet both you and Thomas at the coffee machine 🤩
I can’t really understand the 850 GS. The 750GS is not an off-roader it’s definitely more a road bike even if it’s more than capable to handle gravel roads and lighter off-road, the 850 GS was the model that should be off-road capable. It has the 21” front wheel and slightly better suspension than the 750🤔 So it’s better on gravel roads and lighter off-road but not much more than that. Now they seem to have a bike that can be a fair competitor to the other brands. 🤩
See You Jonas! 🙌 ☕️🤌🏻
It would be great to see a review of the Norden 901 expedition against these bikes
Would love to try one, only seen the Expedition in the flesh once. Quiet different ergonomics than my 890R and that would be interesting to compare.
Hi Mathias, so it is better bike than 890 Ktm or not ?
These bikes are pretty much equal in how they perform, on road and offroad, comfort etc.The 890R will have longer fuelrange, somewhat more purpose made for offroad. But this will come down to preferences of brand, the dealers attitude and what look you like.
@@Braapncamp The KTM is 25 kilos less for the same power. Its front fork it is 48mm vs 45 mm for the 900 GS. I am not sure there is pretty much equal ..
No thats specs, but if i remeber correct it differs more like 5 kilos or so? 25 kios in difference to the 890 R seems too much? Regarding details like forks, suspension travel, fuel range, protection, travel ready i think the KTM is ahead. But all that requires the rider to be able to use it or see the benefits of it to really say that the Katie is better. BMW customer support is great as well and that could be more important for some riders. I'm just happy with my 2023 890R or more correct, i just love it. Nothing that i've tested so far makes me want to swap other than maybe the PR7. The Katie has a fun factor and is capable.
Mattias, looks like this would be a worthy upgrade from my F650 GS, circumstances permitting.
Thats a classic adventurer. Is it the Dakar version? Those bikes have been RTW 👌 This new 900 is definitely a great and fun bike. Recommend a testride.
It’s the 2009 original that I kitted up with various third party accessories.
I just made the move to the F900gs . Having come from the F700gs. Absolutely amazing bike. The weight of bike is so well weighted. The 700gs felt so top heavy in slow maneuvers. Absolute game changer. Great video looks like my mind is made up on the Mosko Reckless 10L perfect fit. 🏆🏆🏆
Awesome, congrats to the bike. Which one of the fast colors did You go for? I like this one over the Yellow. The Reckless 10 is definitely a great way to store stuff for dayrides 🙌 Awesome and slim fit on the 900GS as well, no need for the heatshield either. To mount a R80 or R40 i think a rear rack is a must though.
@@BraapncampI went with Trophy just like the one you were riding . I’m just a daytripper doing very much the terrain you showed nothing to technical just plain exploring. You made my mind up on the Mosko 10L setup. Great video much better than the marketing ploys out there. Have a great riding season 🎉
Hej!
Om du ska jämföra BMW f900 med ktm 890 Adventure r , så vilken av de är det generellt bättre?
Tack
För det jag kör så är dem likvärdiga. Imponerande fjädring på BMW'n liksom det är på 890. Nu har BMWkommit så nära så det kommer mer ned på preferenser. KTM har alltid varit roligare att köra, nu är det gapet mindre eller stängt. Min erfarenhet är att kvaliten är likvärdig, men att BMWär bättre på att ta hand om kunden om det behövs.
Tack för svaret ❤🙏🏻
Hi. Please take a spin with Cfmoto 800MT -23/24
Just lovely specs for the price. Engine from KTM 👍🏻
Would be really interesting, not sure where to try it though?
Great vids bmw 900 or ktm890r
Thanks 🙏 For now my 890R, too new to trade. If I were in to trade it could be possible to go for the Beemer. Tough though since ami really like my Katie. You need to try them both.
@@Braapncamp thanks for replying
It’s so top heavy….and compared to the 890…not close….just the center of gravity alone is a deterrent - Yes much better than the 850 and great looking…but at cost vs that 890….KTM still owns it…thanks for the review
It's in the detailes, the 890R is hard to beat. But the 900 has a very nice responsive engine as well, with the bonus of a more elastic feeling. It's definitely up there and are close/equal/better in different aspects. I did not feel that it was top heavy, should be but felt rather nimble. It wasn't fully fueled, half tank i guess at start. Bummer with jsut 14,5 litres though. Thanks for Yuur input 🙌
Just spotted, it doesn’t have a chain guard and looks like no place to attach one. Not ideal, being so exposed to rocks near the rear socket. Same issue as the Aprilia
Not sure why BMW ditched the chainguard. On the 790/890 it does not hold up over time or on extended rides. They snap off, I have not experienced this on my 790 or 890 though but owners tend to just remove them and are happy. Thanks for Your comment on details! 🙏
Ok, The BMW 900GS or the KTM 890 S? Do they feel different in weight? Also the center of gravity of the KTM is low (engine is low) -- do you feel that one bike is more stable than another? I am 5'9" so weight and height of a bike is important. If I had a choice between BMW and KTM for reliability -- no question -- BMW wins 9 times out of 10. But weight and balance are equally important.
Thanks for Your questions, other feel free to join as well to elaborate on this. I had the 790R 4 years before i now have had the 890R for over a year. No problem with any of them. With that said i'm with You on that BMW at least stands behind their products and will help You out if YOu get problems with their product, in a better way than KTM. But Your dealer could always make different as well.
The 900GS i tested was not fully fueled so it's difficult to compare very exact.
I did not really feel any top heavyness in the 900GS in comparison, it's a very agile bike to ride. One other important thing to control the bike mor static or in tight situations when you need to turn, like in the woods, the 900 has better steering radius and You have better contact with ground. The 890R is higher in the seat. If you ask me this could be more important for You in static/slow situations than what difference in top heavyness means in speed.
The T7 feels way more top heavy than both 900 and 890, and are high.
I think that You need to try them both, but they will be hard to differ, it will come down to preferences, riding comfort, feel for the brand and seat height maybe.
I really love my 890R, it's a beast! But 900 feels fresh.
I have no experience of riding the 890S...
Such a great response. Thanks.@@Braapncamp
Those "flaps" are nö tie down points for a reckless System whatsoever, but to prevent dirt from spraying your back!
Interesting input, my dealer told me the oposite. The special cuts front and rear on these "flaps" was explained as made for tiedown. As i explained to another guy here, I would not the down a fully loaded Reckles 80 on these "flaps/tiedowns" but the R10 does not stress these. In my opinion the bike needs an aftermarket or OEM rack for larger Reckless systems. Thats why I mention Perun Moto which I prefer.
Where’s the high fender? Low fenders cake with mud where I live. Can lock up front tire. Says a lot to me whenever I see a low fender as the “king of adventure”. To me it means it’s a road bike with better suspension for fire roads but even those get muddy
The kingthing is an open question ☝️😁. I saddled my kingy beast on my way home 👀😜
Jag håller med, den är rätt snygg jämfört med tidigare bmw modeller! Sen tycker jag det färgschemat gör att den påminner lite om förra årets Honda transalp 🙂
Ja den känns fräsch och ny, go att köra. Trophy färschemat har dem ju haft sedan urminnes tide på deras tävlingsmasikiner så det går igen i denna. En fin maskin som jag tror kommer att gå hem i stugorna så att säga 😁. Nåt kul på gång?
@@Braapncamp jaha, visste inte att det var "bmw färgerna" 😊 dålig koll på allt tyskt. Håller mest på med garaget fortfarande, håller på flytta in nu iaf 👍 vi ska nog ut och campa några stycket första helgen i april. Det ska bli kul 😊 du då, vad hägrar framåt?
Camp låter helt rätt! Körningar är det fullbokat med i maj, fram till det är det öppet. Kompiskörningar, scouting i Värmland samt Så bygger vi en ADV Camp på Overland Adventure Expo, som en ADV mässa och en camp vi kan hänga ihop runt med övernattning. Skall bli riktigt kul 👌
@@Braapncamp jag fick googla overland adv expo 😅 synd att det är i Stockholm, lite långt att köra hoj över en helg 😊 låter kul annars!
@@McPappan Ja det kommer att bli grymt! Första testet i år för att gasa på sedan och få det till att bli episkt 👌😁
Would you trade 890 advr for this one?
I could! Loved the elastic engine and suspension was nice, comfort was great. So why not? Economy ofc, my 890R is only 1 year old. Too early to swap and it's definitely a wonderful bike to ride. The 900 just felt newer and somewhat mor modern ad tighter in many aspects. They are too close now to say that the KTM is sportier. But something in my head craves for a ligheter bike (again) the day i trade.
14.5 l fuel is a fail for Australian riding. Do you have to remove the tank to get to the air filter? You know you want something lighter but the only alternatives are the 690/701 or the AJP. Too soon for the Kove 800. From DKW125.
I agree that the low volume is one thing that many will consider as a drawback. Still drooling over the PR7, i will actually have a demo PR7 from AJP Nordic for some weeks this summer, my friend just want's to lure me into one 👀😂🙈
would you get rid of your KTM 890 for this or not ?
No, but thats just a matter of timing. Who takes a loss on a one year old bike that is great? If it was more like time to change for some reason then i actually could consider this 900GS as long as i still aim for this category. It is a great ADV bike! Last time i swapped i have had my 790R for 4 years and at that time the new 890R was what i wanted, nothing else except the PR7 was on my preferred list.
$18K US, is a big no! I opted for an Aprilia Tuareg 660 for, $12k.
Its a 900cc vs a 660cc I'm not surprised it's more $'s
@@chrishart8548 Same class of Adv bike, middle weight. It's expensive because it's a BMW, plain and simple! Should be cheaper since it's made in China! The most expensive middle weight Adv bike!! I've owned plenty of BMWs, GS, GSA and currently own a 2006 1150 GSA and a RNine T urban GS
Agree on that prizes has gone bananas! But It's a damn good bike and BMW is generous with goodwill, stands behind their products. We can't take that from BMW.
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Like this bike a lot but cannot live with the short range. Australia is a big country where you need range and off road ability combined.
I could imagine! Up here in Scandinavia tou will be on the margin with the range this bike offers. You definitely need to fill up where You can ond not skip any possibility to fuel up in rural areas, Doing that and You will be fine. Many will not be comfortable with this.
No tail light! That’s interesting
Integrated tail light in the blinkers
@@scandimc I noticed that
It seems odd to me that manufacturers make these bikes with engines as a stress member and then bolt the bash plate/ sump guard directly to the engine so any impact is transferred directly to the engine. I know most riders who will buy this bike will not use it in extreme but it does make me think that some manufacturers are just making soft adventure and not true adventure bikes the best adventure bike BMW made was to HP2 Enduro how well would that sell now if they made them available again 🤔
The HP2 is classic and still does well in comparison, as the Super Enduro. But talking about engine as as stress bember, the HP is in the family. A friend of mine totalled his HP2 in a scouting trip for Adventure Days. Insuranse company had to pay for manufacturing a new engine. No one on the shelf. The alternative was none if the customer should have an equal HP2, since there was none to source. Expensive. I would like to hav eone though! The bashplate is bolted on the engine on my 890R as well, and the earlier 790. I've been fine so far. 690/701, the same thing, was fine with the 690 as well. The EXC is still with a frame covering the engine 👌
Will you be trading in your KTM?😂. Cheers from 🇺🇸
Nope, not this time 😁 Skål 🍺
I had to trade my F800GSA, on a Transalp because I couldn't buy a new sprocket hub, because BMW ceased production, and it took me 6 weeks on the internet to find a 2nd hand one. Even the BMW dealer told me BMW corporate don't care any more. Fk BMW, never again
RickyBobby, like that name! get's me thinking of the Dakar racer 😁👍. This was interesting, i think they must provide spare parts by law for a certain time? A friend of mine even had a new engine block manufactured for his HP2, ofc he had to wait for it, but they made it at least. That may have changed though...
interesting vs ktm...
They are as close as ever now with this 900GS. Will be really intersting to see the real 900 vs 890 videos when they arive, by the real pro's out there. They could dig into the details while i just go for what i gut feel when riding them. Let me guess that the Beemer actually beats the Katie an more aspects than before...
yeah, wait 4ur vid - coz im happy with my 890adv here in mindanao@@Braapncamp
Total price in Canada, out the door, is $16,995 - no thanks!
Yes, it's a hefty pricetag for sure, leading the pack on this?
Snygg hoj. Rätt färgsättning för en BMW. 14, 5 liter användbar bränslemängd. Man blir ju sugen 😅
Bara att slå till Ove 👌 Det är kul i skogen 😁👍
@@Braapncamp Hade man varit 10 år yngre och bättre rygg så😊
Fan, du ser stark ut Ove! Men man skall hinna med allt med, jag har allt prylar så det räcker som konkurerar om samma säsong... 👀🙈😂. Vi ses därute!
no, it's not completely new bike, it has same non-bmw, not too reliable engine as before. It's just bored out. Good they gave adjustable forks finally though.
Thanks for the input! Completely new feeling of this bike could be a better statement ☝️😁
That brake pedal.....? Just a piece of bend flat iron....sorry
Typical BMW, i remember that it looked like that on the 1200GSA i had as well, but works 👌
@@Braapncamp …but for that price ?
Not sure if my brake pedal is that much cooler, but for sure it's lighter ☝️😁
no ty to heavy almost 500lb
Thats how it is in this category, a PR7 does better in the more gnarly stuff. But these beasts does great wher most of ust ride.
A lot of money for a predominantly off road bike, let’s face it it’s not a tourer.
It is, even my 890R is a tad too expenive to throw in mudholes... But we do it anyway 🙈👀🤣💪🔥✊🏻✊🏻
Chinese engine is big no for me. Especially with this price!
It is a bummer that the west is out of machining/manufacturing capacity.
It may be Chinese made but it seems there is about 0 complaints about reliability. Now compare to the Austrian made LC8c.
@@gbner9991 I'm aware of KTM "quality"... From the other hand my buddy have a Chinese/Indian made BMW and due to engine gasket fold in half by the factory, engine was dead after 1 months of riding...
it's not about the country of the manufacturing. it's about the quality control , production quality and training of the staff of the brand.
Guys with such a bad riding technique need all the electronics lol
We use them with pride ☝️😁
Chinese bike with BMW badge and huge price tag. Will be interesting to see when they start breaking and falling apart...
Would you prefer it to be assembled in Germany from Chinese parts🤔 All motorbikes have parts made in China. Good luck avoiding Chinese products
It's a Chinese built engine designed by BMW the bike is assembled in Berlin.
I would like to know were is your mobile made... Or lap top... Or ANY OTHER thing... Be real.
It’s actually a proven motor and not exactly new. What I know they didn’t have any considerable problems the last years.
@Cayman1 been around since 2015 now I haven't heard anything bad about that loncin engine really.