Love your videos and find them really informative in a no BS way! I'm in the market for a mid size adventure and have taken quite a few for test rides. I rode the F900GS last weekend and loved it - really balanced with smooth power delivery amongst other things. I know the fuel size not ideal, however I reckon i'd need a stretch by the time it needed filling and you can always throw a bladder on the back for touring. Thanks again for your awesome content.
I agree. Fuel is not an issue unless you head to the outback. On my 701 I have used an 8 litre fuel bladder for those out of the way places and use it about once every two years.
BMW are back in business on the ADV front with the 900. Needs a bigger tank and that airbox may be sucking in dust so they need to look at that, but this is the first BMW I would consider buying if I didn't already have the T7.
Rode my mates f900gs enduro with the enduro Pro package nearly 5 weeks ago, loved it, very nimble and sporty feeling on road, it's better offroad than my 23 desert x , tempted to trade my desert x in for one...very smooth linear power and looks lovely aswel, bmw done a great job on it, didn't like the 17 inch rear wheel size and the tank at 14.5 liters is a little small but it was showing 56-57 miles to the gallon in dynamic mode, suspension is nice and firm which I liked and the electronics and brakes and quick shifter was great... Good review guys
Hello to you both; What a great bike review, as usual, professional, constructive and based on experience. However I disagree that you both are 'average' off -road riders. You have very good off-road bike skills, the confident way you ride through many different conditions never ceases to amaze me, I am bloody average. So thanks... you do inspire riders to get out there on the bike they are happy with! David....Adelaide....Triumph Scrambler 1200X ...one bike for all....
Dave. A good point about fuel economy. Years ago before the internet I read about a trail ride with a group of riders in one of the magazines of the time. One of the riders was Stephen Gall who got the best fuel economy and as you'd guess he was the best rider there. Someone gave me advise along time ago; Smooth is fast
Good vid Dave and Clubby. Seens a well thought out bike. Get on it and go. Fugure out the easy to use ekectronics. Mileage well can be of issue here in USA also. It has been well recieved everywhere. BMW did their work shedding some pounds. All in all a good bike. Interedting in what the cone up with for bags and mounts. Now it's Honda time. Stay safe have fun. Good job guys
Great Review Dave. The bike looks amazing.. I already own the 1250GS and I gotta say this coming from a KTM 950 previously .....I just bought another adventure bike with no electronics...and I can't wait to get on it when it arrives. The fact that he is recommending "Rain" for throttle response in the dirt is counter intuitive and in some ways means BMW got it wrong if the 1250 is a different choice. I find the electronics good and bad. Nothing makes you more connected to a bike that no intervention. IMHO
I agree with you on the rider modes. Good and bad. The fact that Being in the incorrect mode could get you in trouble on a hill climb as it did Clubby.
Great video. I appreciate that you consider the bike from a "normal rider" point of view. We're out there doin' it, but no riding contract in today's mail. I have no problem with modes and configs. Keeps me thinking and involved. Bottom line tho, riding aids can never subtract weight. I'm staying in the 690/701 camp for now, maybe fine tune my wind protection.
Another fine review as always. Would you choose it over the 900 Ralley Pro for the "average" rider though. 200km range could certainly make for an adventure.
Great Vid, looks like fuel range may be the only thing to hold it back. I technically dont 'need' the range but certainly dont want to stop as often as a 14,5L would need.
To quote from your own headlining video, "I'm not going to tell you how to ride." Hmmmmmm :). I punch out a video per fortnight and sometime weekly. Solo shooter producer. I cut corners. Maybe you could become my editor, for 40 mins content from 5 cameras I will demand a turn around of 2 days.
Guys, you were freaking me out! 🤣🤣🤣Myself being from Bavaria, of course we analyze this bike from top to bottom but with "slightly a different language". 🤣🤣🤣 I laughed myself silly and so did my wife! Great show! But on the other hand I hardly saw such a well made video about the F 900. Fantastic job! Channel is subscribed! Can't wait to see more! 👊💪
The BMW900 is a beast of a bike but I think you would have to be a experienced rider too fully appreciate this big. Price is up there but not excessive for what it is. Having said that, I could buy 3 brand new Himalayan for the same amount
PS: Love the little text boxes. Extra info or a clarification without extra yakking. Pro touch, that. 40 minutes is a long breakfast, but your "density" is about right. You make the time worthwhile, although if I'm honest, I'm more likely to click on the 25' version.
Darce, for off road focussed T7 riders thinking of uograding does this make sense?? Love my T7 and and also like the look of tuareg. Have done some very snotty stuff in Vic high country multiple times and need to upgrade suspension like your T7 or use the same coin on upgrade. Does it feel substantially heavier to your T7 as per actual weight difference? Cheers mate.
What is interesting new Voge DS900X Adventure is 70% same bike and has same engine produced by Loncin in China for half the price. BMW actually bought this engine from Loncin.
Was there dust on the clean side of that airbox??? Looked like it😮 Fuel range appears to be a fail for Australian conditions. 200/250km range for most medium to harder chargers is useless Great all round review
For an Enduro model, that non-folding gear lever will last 5 mins if you crash on it, and the cartridge style air filter is really suspect - they should've learned a lesson from KTM's one on the 790 that these just don't seal properly. One good thing is the standard TPMS - its the best safety feature on bikes these days. From someone who's ridden big kms - its pretty much useless as an adventure bike in Australia because of the lack of standard fuel range. I recently rode to Northeast WA on my GSA1200 (5.5L per 100km), with 30L in the main tank and a 12 Litre bladder on the back and needed every bit on one leg.
Yep, that's one ride and for the rest of the time you easily get by with that big tank. I get it. I use a bladder on my 701. I don't think it's fatal to the bike. I've just ridden from Melbourne to Sydney on it and had a ball in the bush.
Exactly. These bikes are too powerful for their intended purpose.... and then you pay extra for the "modes" to dial them back. Better off on a Himalyan with an extra $20k in the bank!
Well done Dave, you have reviewed another bike beautifully!! 🙏 But you tested the Ducati Desert X with Pirelli STR and this one has Karoo 4 so you can't compare them on dirt fairly
A big call. I don't mind riding on either. I rode the 890 on Pirelli Rally Scorpion Rally, ultimately the best tyres from my perspective. I'm confident I can make that call. I distinctly remember the rear end of the Ducati when I started motoring.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I agree the Pirelli Scorpion Rally are fantastic tyres and very similar to the Karoo 4 but the Ducati was on the Scorpion Rally Street which have very small knobs compared to to the Rally or Karoo 4
How does it compare with the Tuareg for your described riding style? Switched from a first generation F800GS to a Tuareg last year and I think BMW may have made-up for all the shortcomings of the original F800GS. with this version.
Nice review, I really like this bike, I test rode one about 2 weeks ago (the yellow one) although it didn't have the suspension pack on it, black forks
I’m in the market for a mid sized bike in the next month or so and had my heart set on a Husky Norden Expedition! But with all the camshaft issues- I might be looking at the Adventure Ride Pro model or the Triumph Rally Pro now! 👍🏻
Bike looks great but the 14.5ltr fuel tank is a bit of a shame compared to the other bikes in the sector. Looking forward to you guys testing the new Honda Africa Twin.
Good job putting together another fun vid - all the relevant information in an entertaining way.😀 Sadly, it seems it's another bike with european market in mind...where 14 litres is ok, cos servos are everywhere. I mean seriously, 14 litres!?!?! In any event, the bike is definite improvement on the last one. It will very likely gain a following in australia...but what to do about that fuel tank.
For the Americans, the metric conversion is simple. 4.7 - 5.7 liters per hundred kilometers with a 14.5 liters tank gives you somewhere in the neighborhood of 200k on a tank. 200k is 31.5 stone or 435 lbs according to Google and that's the weight of the bike you'll be pushing when you're out of gas.
Can someone explain why manufacturers often pair their motorcycles with a 21-inch front wheel and a 17-inch rear wheel (21/17 setup) instead of a 21/18 setup? It's quite difficult to find a true off-road tire for a 17-inch rim.
👏👏👏10/10 for the airbox design, location & high intake at the front - imo dry paper filters designed for EU cannot actually filter fine Aussie dust, so just oil them or switch to TwinAir foam. Guessing it lacks low end torque based on the motogp RPMs I heard. Guessing the 890R slides are way better with their more advsnced TC 1-9 choice system? Fair and honest review 🎉
In previous models Enduro Pro equivalent to Slip Control 3 on Kato. Not now it’s like Slip 5 or 6. 🥹 . Deceptively effective engine in revs under 3500 Revs
Got to see this and I love it (I love all the adv bikes), I did not test it since I have the DDX and not in the market for a new bike at the moment. I have two dislikes, the plastics on the sides of the tank and rear break having only one piston.
Very nice review of an impressive bike! Here in Europe the fuel range wouldn't be that much of an issue. The price is though.. once you add the dynamic and enduro pro packs + the Cruise control (which really shouldn't be an optional extra at this price point.. come on BMW!), this is an expensive bike!
Hm, I had my mind set on the 2024 Tiger 900 RP.... Looks like I have to think again! Or at least have another test ride scheduled. Any comments here? Good review! Thanks!
Great both bikes, what separates it for me the the Beemer's on the fly traction control and abs and its sophistication. There is not much between them.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks for taking the the time to comment. Now I am torn between brand loyalty - am currently riding a Tiger 800 - and brand patriotism - as I am German. Ah, what a complicated life this is! 😉 Cheers, mate!
Great review guys 👍 I've a feeling this bike will do pretty well for sales, but I'm sure BMW will be wary of the Adventure version pinching sales from the 1300 GS - it's that good, and much better looking 😊
Solid review, the real world fuel range was all I was waiting for, that's enough for me. Just have to wait for stock to arrive and the aftermarket to catch up..I hope i can hold out til then 😂
None of my bikes have electronic riding modes. Maybe I would like it but it just seems so complicated. I'm an older rider who can afford this complexity but I work on my bikes and the modern bikes are like modern cars, there is very little an owner can do anymore. Eventually I will buy a new bike with all the latest and see if I actually use all these modes, or just find one I like and leave it there.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV You're smarter than a lot of us I think. Maybe you can call your countryman ARiemann1 because he just did a review of the bike and he said he couldn't figure out how to turn off the ABS. Or was it Traction Control? I forget now and I just watched his video. With my lousy memory I can see myself going through menu's looking for what I want. But you did make it look pretty simple. Or maybe if I could ride with a BMW Ambassador the first time to be able to ask, "How do I...?" Always enjoy your MAD capers on any bike. I'm still doing my adv rides on a DR650 so you know I'm in the dark ages with modern electronic control aids. I even removed the ABS on my Wee-Strom so that I had brakes going down loose rock trails.
@@JagLite one button on the left turns traction control on and off. One button on the right changes modes. It only become more if you want to personalise off road pro
maybe they should of called it the "dual sport" version? at over 200kg and with the front mudguard clearance Im struggling to see that bike as a enduro bike
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV none that i know of, which is even more of a reason its a stretch calling it a enduro, and probably better called a dual sport (my bikes got 21cm front guard clearance, single cylinder, 166kg and mine still aint even classed as a enduro bike)
Am i the only one who doesnt get excited about, or use, all the drive modes? I have a KTM 1090 Adventure R and only use full power sport mode in the dirt and on the road with ABS on (it works that well) and traction control off. The power delivery on these multi cylinder bikes is so smooth that i cant see a reason to dumb it down and spend hours frigging around with settings instead of riding
Love the review and your channel. Lightweight adventure bikes at 215kg’s with 100bhp at $27k is slightly confusing considering the competition but I’ve no doubt that the BMW fans will be queuing up. One thing I’ve noticed on your videos is that the sound could be better n certain parts. In the motorcycle the narration is good, but when you’re talking over the video it sounds tinny and echo-y, when you’re talking to the dealer you need some portable rode/DJI microphones. Poor sound makes all your hard work less appealing. Thank you 🙏
You do what you do in the time and environment you have. It would be wonderful to have production time. This video was shot, produced and published in 5 days. I’d suggest take your headphones off.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV totally, please don’t take this as a criticism I mean it with all due respect of your hard work. Using the right microphone won’t add any post production time. I listened to your video on my TV…thank you for your hard work 🙏
@@scottaubrey8392 I don't take it as criticism. I am trying to realign your unrealistic expectations. You will notice I take radio mics with me. The reality is they were packed in that tiny bag that I had just packed on the bike. Other times it was pissing down rain. I do what I can.
Hopefully Safari or IMS will make an aftermarket tank for this model. BMW Australia should fit a bigger tank for their Australian customers because Australia is not a small country.
I pretty confident we haven't seen the last of this. Who's to say the current GSA couldn't be replaced with the running gear of this. I can't see this being a one off model.
So if you could have a Triumph 900 Rally Pro or BMW 900 GS Enduro which would you choose for two track, easy off road and half time on street? I have a KTM 890, Tenere and a BMW 1250 GS so I have experience with what I have and I really enjoy each for what they are. I am just curious. Anyone?
If turning ABS on the fly is not important to you and the best suspension is not either, nor traction control is not important to you then they are pretty close.
I understand. Just curious about your thoughts. I am seriously considering shedding the 1250. The KTM and Tenere suit me off-road. I really want a lighter, but excellent replacement for 70% road that is dirt capable. Bikes are spread out in several locations.
Nice bike. I had to un-Subscribe and then Re-subscribe because UA-cam stopped showing me your videos. I love the videos you put out. They are a must watch. You definitely deserve 10 fold the subscriber base that you have.
Thank you. Yes I suffer from the youtube algorithm that want to keep you in one lane. I love doing long form movies and bike builds and it doesn't like the change in content.
Tell me out of interest, how many times are you going to need this all importantant fuel range, Personally for me on my 701, once every two years for two weeks and I take a fuel bladder.
Looks a great bike. It's a shame it's taken BMW 5 years to make something even close to the KTM 790/890 adventure R, and still it's heavier despite carrying less fuel and being more minimalist. The TC seems pretty poor in comparison too. I feel like you were being kind/diplomatic in that regard at times. Typically you guys talk a lot about fuel anxiety, so I was surprised the range was only mentioned once or twice at the end of the video, compared to the Tiger 900 video.
The TC is right up there. Look at the tests on this channel. I've tested them all. In terms of fuel anxiety, I don't think I could have said it more clearly in the conclusion. I rest my case.
I call that style of riding fluff. I don't mean it in a disingenuous way after all I too filmed fluff from Miles. But let's be clear that's not Adventure, but it does highlight the potential of the bike. In his first video Adam hasn't tuned the suspension yet, nor has he checked static sag. Wait until he sets it up for his weight and purpose and then let's see what he says.
Ripper of a Mid-Sized dirt weapon, that BMW has come up with. I'd need a bit more fuel range I think. Then again, I wish the 890 had more range as well. It wouldn't take much, another half gallon or so.
This is the best F900 GS review on the internet so far , I enjoyed every bit of it. Would you recommend this over the aprilia Tuareg 660 ? Both for on/off road which one would you think is better. Budget is not an issue. Thx
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Other than access the servicing , which one is better off-road(gravel , desert and mountains) Finally long distance on tarmac. I would highly appreciate your input as cannot decide which one to choose coming October. Both bikes are excellent and I test rode both.
Best GS 900 Review so far. Thx you from South Africa!
Excellent. We try hard.
Love the real world detail you get into like rpms, configuring modes etc, and riding proper trails. Vid length and content is great 👍🏼
Thanks
You guys are gold. Always love the videos.
Thanks so much!
The best test I've seen yet. So much depth you guys went to explain the traction and users interaction can change things. Simply the best!
Our pleasure! Spread the link.
Love your videos and find them really informative in a no BS way! I'm in the market for a mid size adventure and have taken quite a few for test rides. I rode the F900GS last weekend and loved it - really balanced with smooth power delivery amongst other things. I know the fuel size not ideal, however I reckon i'd need a stretch by the time it needed filling and you can always throw a bladder on the back for touring. Thanks again for your awesome content.
I agree. Fuel is not an issue unless you head to the outback. On my 701 I have used an 8 litre fuel bladder for those out of the way places and use it about once every two years.
BMW are back in business on the ADV front with the 900. Needs a bigger tank and that airbox may be sucking in dust so they need to look at that, but this is the first BMW I would consider buying if I didn't already have the T7.
Yep I agree. A huge step up.
6 gallons isn't enough?
Rode my mates f900gs enduro with the enduro Pro package nearly 5 weeks ago, loved it, very nimble and sporty feeling on road, it's better offroad than my 23 desert x , tempted to trade my desert x in for one...very smooth linear power and looks lovely aswel, bmw done a great job on it, didn't like the 17 inch rear wheel size and the tank at 14.5 liters is a little small but it was showing 56-57 miles to the gallon in dynamic mode, suspension is nice and firm which I liked and the electronics and brakes and quick shifter was great... Good review guys
Thanks for your insight.
Great video Dave and Clubby. So good that you could get Miles along to show just how much you can push the bike. An excellent review.
Yeah I was determined to do that and it worked out.
Again a bloody awesome review Dave and Clubby. The 900 is an awesome bit of kit. I recognised some of the trails. Goldie’s Spur is an awesome track.
Thanks.
Hello to you both; What a great bike review, as usual, professional, constructive and based on experience. However I disagree that you both are 'average' off -road riders. You have very good off-road bike skills, the confident way you ride through many different conditions never ceases to amaze me, I am bloody average. So thanks... you do inspire riders to get out there on the bike they are happy with! David....Adelaide....Triumph Scrambler 1200X ...one bike for all....
Thanks for the compliment Dave.
To date the best test I’ve seen. Thanks guys
Our pleasure! We try to make the detailed and useful.
I have to admit that watching you revving and wheel spinning in that first section was killing me! Use the torque. Nice to hear Miles bring it up.
Coz it's fun to see shit fly.
Dave. A good point about fuel economy. Years ago before the internet I read about a trail ride with a group of riders in one of the magazines of the time. One of the riders was Stephen Gall who got the best fuel economy and as you'd guess he was the best rider there. Someone gave me advise along time ago; Smooth is fast
I've ridden with Stephen a number of times. He is so clever how he rides fast and efficiently. It truly is amazing.
Good vid Dave and Clubby. Seens a well thought out bike. Get on it and go. Fugure out the easy to use ekectronics. Mileage well can be of issue here in USA also. It has been well recieved everywhere. BMW did their work shedding some pounds. All in all a good bike. Interedting in what the cone up with for bags and mounts. Now it's Honda time. Stay safe have fun. Good job guys
Thanks Sam. Yeah the Honda will be interesting. We're thrown straight into desert sand with that one.
Great Review Dave. The bike looks amazing.. I already own the 1250GS and I gotta say this coming from a KTM 950 previously .....I just bought another adventure bike with no electronics...and I can't wait to get on it when it arrives. The fact that he is recommending "Rain" for throttle response in the dirt is counter intuitive and in some ways means BMW got it wrong if the 1250 is a different choice. I find the electronics good and bad. Nothing makes you more connected to a bike that no intervention. IMHO
You get that with Enduro Pro if you want it and with Traction control off.
I agree with you on the rider modes. Good and bad. The fact that Being in the incorrect mode could get you in trouble on a hill climb as it did Clubby.
Great all around bike with no need to upgrade any components from stock or as your skills get better....a one purchase bike for life.
Well said!
Great video. I appreciate that you consider the bike from a "normal rider" point of view. We're out there doin' it, but no riding contract in today's mail. I have no problem with modes and configs. Keeps me thinking and involved. Bottom line tho, riding aids can never subtract weight. I'm staying in the 690/701 camp for now, maybe fine tune my wind protection.
Thanks
BMW definitely moving this bike in the right direction, though fuel range maybe too compromised for extended travel. Another solid MAD TV review👍
Thank you.
For an old fluff rider, ticks all the boxes👍. We'll find room somewhere for 5 or so ltrs
@@adamhuglo111 😜
Another fine review as always. Would you choose it over the 900 Ralley Pro for the "average" rider though. 200km range could certainly make for an adventure.
6 gallons is not enough??
Great Vid, looks like fuel range may be the only thing to hold it back. I technically dont 'need' the range but certainly dont want to stop as often as a 14,5L would need.
Actually you would need a break by then anyway.
FYI, 14:00 if you're using Davinci Resolve to edit, select all clips and Shift+T will put a transition on the audio. Less popping.
To quote from your own headlining video, "I'm not going to tell you how to ride." Hmmmmmm :). I punch out a video per fortnight and sometime weekly. Solo shooter producer. I cut corners. Maybe you could become my editor, for 40 mins content from 5 cameras I will demand a turn around of 2 days.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV haha, yep. Point taken I totally get what you mean. I struggle with the time to edit myself, as much as I love it.
Nice review. It has helped me determine that it is not the bike for me. This is equally important as watching reviews of bikes you love.
Thank you
Cracking intro of a beautiful powerslide dirt cloud, dudes... what an awesome test review! Keep'em coming! ✊🏻✊🏻🙌
Thank you.
Guys, you were freaking me out! 🤣🤣🤣Myself being from Bavaria, of course we analyze this bike from top to bottom but with "slightly a different language". 🤣🤣🤣 I laughed myself silly and so did my wife! Great show! But on the other hand I hardly saw such a well made video about the F 900. Fantastic job! Channel is subscribed! Can't wait to see more! 👊💪
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@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Quote: "Get out of here" - I will 😉🤣
The BMW900 is a beast of a bike but I think you would have to be a experienced rider too fully appreciate this big.
Price is up there but not excessive for what it is.
Having said that, I could buy 3 brand new Himalayan for the same amount
Yeah good points.
Awesome test for an awesome bike. :)
Greetings from Canada!
Great review, enjoyable watch, thanks Dave and Clubby
Interesting and very good test, thank you! Especially with the settings.
That was good having Miles as he is the expert.
fancy machine - great video as always guys
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic Video Dave , thanks for posting.
thanks for watching.
900cc, over 100hp, mid sized? That’s not far off super bikes from the mid 1990s. What’s a large adventure bike- 3000cc 1000hp? 😂
We don't let Nugget anywhere near the big ones.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I bet nugget loves riding the big ones
@@glennwr450 Actually he doesn't, particularly if you bin it you pay for it.
Smallest adventure bike is a 450, biggest is a 1301. Do the math as to what’s in the middle.
@@snowgsadventures3232 Honda crf300rally, Royale Enfield 400, bmw 310 gs, ktm 390 adventure etc. adventure bikes don’t start at 450cc
liked the bit with the snake! and perhaps the pillion pegs pushing on your calves can work as stegpegz...
nothing like a good snake
Another cracking yet honest review. Thanks boys!
Glad you enjoyed it. We put in the efort.
Fantastic, in depth review of this glorious beast.
Thank you kindly!
Excellent review. And nice to see a little of my back yard in the Wattagans too.
Such a great bike let down by the small fuel range.
I don't agree. One ride a year you'll need the extra fuel range. Grab a bladder and whince, that's what I do in the 701.
PS: Love the little text boxes. Extra info or a clarification without extra yakking. Pro touch, that. 40 minutes is a long breakfast, but your "density" is about right. You make the time worthwhile, although if I'm honest, I'm more likely to click on the 25' version.
Do what you do, and I'll keep doing me. I'm not reviewing a bike of this nature in 25 mins.
Darce, for off road focussed T7 riders thinking of uograding does this make sense?? Love my T7 and and also like the look of tuareg. Have done some very snotty stuff in Vic high country multiple times and need to upgrade suspension like your T7 or use the same coin on upgrade. Does it feel substantially heavier to your T7 as per actual weight difference? Cheers mate.
Nope. T7 feel more top heavy.
Great in-depth reveiw , well done 👍👍
Thank you! 👍
What is interesting new Voge DS900X Adventure is 70% same bike and has same engine produced by Loncin in China for half the price. BMW actually bought this engine from Loncin.
Was there dust on the clean side of that airbox??? Looked like it😮
Fuel range appears to be a fail for Australian conditions. 200/250km range for most medium to harder chargers is useless
Great all round review
No it was not dust
For an Enduro model, that non-folding gear lever will last 5 mins if you crash on it, and the cartridge style air filter is really suspect - they should've learned a lesson from KTM's one on the 790 that these just don't seal properly. One good thing is the standard TPMS - its the best safety feature on bikes these days. From someone who's ridden big kms - its pretty much useless as an adventure bike in Australia because of the lack of standard fuel range. I recently rode to Northeast WA on my GSA1200 (5.5L per 100km), with 30L in the main tank and a 12 Litre bladder on the back and needed every bit on one leg.
Yep, that's one ride and for the rest of the time you easily get by with that big tank. I get it. I use a bladder on my 701. I don't think it's fatal to the bike. I've just ridden from Melbourne to Sydney on it and had a ball in the bush.
Use “Rain” as the engine setting when in Enduro Pro. Does this dial back power?
If yes, for dirt, what is the point for bigger and stronger engines?
That's not what was said, it changes changes the power delivery still alowing powerslides and wheelies. Have another listen to Miles.
Exactly. These bikes are too powerful for their intended purpose.... and then you pay extra for the "modes" to dial them back. Better off on a Himalyan with an extra $20k in the bank!
Well done Dave, you have reviewed another bike beautifully!! 🙏
But you tested the Ducati Desert X with Pirelli STR and this one has Karoo 4 so you can't compare them on dirt fairly
A big call. I don't mind riding on either. I rode the 890 on Pirelli Rally Scorpion Rally, ultimately the best tyres from my perspective. I'm confident I can make that call. I distinctly remember the rear end of the Ducati when I started motoring.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I agree the Pirelli Scorpion Rally are fantastic tyres and very similar to the Karoo 4 but the Ducati was on the Scorpion Rally Street which have very small knobs compared to to the Rally or Karoo 4
How does it compare with the Tuareg for your described riding style? Switched from a first generation F800GS to a Tuareg last year and I think BMW may have made-up for all the shortcomings of the original F800GS. with this version.
The 800 GS is dead. Long live the 900! No comparison
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV True. My question was about comparison with the Tuareg.
Where does the Yamaha Tenere World Raid rank in the mid-size adv segment?
It's certainly up there but not when it comes to electronic sophistication
there awesome bikes. was that dust in the airbox ?
Nice review, I really like this bike, I test rode one about 2 weeks ago (the yellow one) although it didn't have the suspension pack on it, black forks
Still a good bike without the suspension pack but I'd prefer it.
I’m in the market for a mid sized bike in the next month or so and had my heart set on a Husky Norden Expedition! But with all the camshaft issues- I might be looking at the Adventure Ride Pro model or the Triumph Rally Pro now! 👍🏻
Both are great bikes. In Australia Triumph doesn't have traction control change on the fly and is a pain.
How did you find the foot pegs? I found that due to them being lowered from the fixing point, I couldn’t get my boots close to the frame.
I didn't mind them but did make mention of removing the pillion pegs if I had the bike.
Airborne GS Coming!
Miles is a Mad Dog!
Sure is.
Looks like a great bike, Ducati should take a look at just how easy you can make air filter changing. Looking forward to seeing the adventure version.
I certainly liked the air filter. Ducati aren't the only one that needs to resolve that issue.
Bike looks great but the 14.5ltr fuel tank is a bit of a shame compared to the other bikes in the sector. Looking forward to you guys testing the new Honda Africa Twin.
We ride the AT straight into the desert.
Good job putting together another fun vid - all the relevant information in an entertaining way.😀 Sadly, it seems it's another bike with european market in mind...where 14 litres is ok, cos servos are everywhere. I mean seriously, 14 litres!?!?! In any event, the bike is definite improvement on the last one. It will very likely gain a following in australia...but what to do about that fuel tank.
Yes. I guess buy the GSA version if fual is the most important.
Cheers Dave for another awesome review!!!
My pleasure!
For the Americans, the metric conversion is simple. 4.7 - 5.7 liters per hundred kilometers with a 14.5 liters tank gives you somewhere in the neighborhood of 200k on a tank. 200k is 31.5 stone or 435 lbs according to Google and that's the weight of the bike you'll be pushing when you're out of gas.
The same, or lighter weight than all the others in its class.
Can someone explain why manufacturers often pair their motorcycles with a 21-inch front wheel and a 17-inch rear wheel (21/17 setup) instead of a 21/18 setup? It's quite difficult to find a true off-road tire for a 17-inch rim.
the Metzler Karoo's did all right.
👏👏👏10/10 for the airbox design, location & high intake at the front - imo dry paper filters designed for EU cannot actually filter fine Aussie dust, so just oil them or switch to TwinAir foam. Guessing it lacks low end torque based on the motogp RPMs I heard. Guessing the 890R slides are way better with their more advsnced TC 1-9 choice system? Fair and honest review 🎉
In previous models Enduro Pro equivalent to Slip Control 3 on Kato. Not now it’s like Slip 5 or 6. 🥹 . Deceptively effective engine in revs under 3500 Revs
Got to see this and I love it (I love all the adv bikes), I did not test it since I have the DDX and not in the market for a new bike at the moment.
I have two dislikes, the plastics on the sides of the tank and rear break having only one piston.
Thanks.
Great bike! Looks good too 👍
It does!
2:00 Dave I was right about the plastic key in the tool pack wasn't I .👋🤠👍
Beemer haven't got back to me, si I can only take your. word for it.
Very nice review of an impressive bike!
Here in Europe the fuel range wouldn't be that much of an issue.
The price is though.. once you add the dynamic and enduro pro packs + the Cruise control (which really shouldn't be an optional extra at this price point.. come on BMW!), this is an expensive bike!
Thanks for sharing!
Pretty nice bike, worthy competitor for the current base model Africa twin.
The competition is heating up.
3:03 and controls set on the fly aswell electronic ones do anyway .👋🤠👍
Yep
Good review and very interesting to see your comparison compared to Adam Riemanm in terms of the different perspectives. Cheers
I'm no racer, but I've ridden bikes for 50 years and adventure for 20 years.
Hm, I had my mind set on the 2024 Tiger 900 RP.... Looks like I have to think again! Or at least have another test ride scheduled. Any comments here?
Good review! Thanks!
Great both bikes, what separates it for me the the Beemer's on the fly traction control and abs and its sophistication. There is not much between them.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks for taking the the time to comment. Now I am torn between brand loyalty - am currently riding a Tiger 800 - and brand patriotism - as I am German. Ah, what a complicated life this is! 😉 Cheers, mate!
thanks for sharing,.. itr really clear where is teh rigth terrain for this bike,,
Yep
Great review guys 👍
I've a feeling this bike will do pretty well for sales, but I'm sure BMW will be wary of the Adventure version pinching sales from the 1300 GS - it's that good, and much better looking 😊
We shall see
What about the new 800? As an adventure/gravel bike?
Nope, not for me. I like this one.
Solid review, the real world fuel range was all I was waiting for, that's enough for me. Just have to wait for stock to arrive and the aftermarket to catch up..I hope i can hold out til then 😂
Enjoy!
None of my bikes have electronic riding modes. Maybe I would like it but it just seems so complicated.
I'm an older rider who can afford this complexity but I work on my bikes and the modern bikes are like modern cars, there is very little an owner can do anymore. Eventually I will buy a new bike with all the latest and see if I actually use all these modes, or just find one I like and leave it there.
I think I have been unsuccessul in conveying how simple mode selection is once initially put in. Same button, push, Road, push again Enduro Pro.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV You're smarter than a lot of us I think. Maybe you can call your countryman ARiemann1 because he just did a review of the bike and he said he couldn't figure out how to turn off the ABS. Or was it Traction Control? I forget now and I just watched his video. With my lousy memory I can see myself going through menu's looking for what I want. But you did make it look pretty simple. Or maybe if I could ride with a BMW Ambassador the first time to be able to ask, "How do I...?"
Always enjoy your MAD capers on any bike. I'm still doing my adv rides on a DR650 so you know I'm in the dark ages with modern electronic control aids. I even removed the ABS on my Wee-Strom so that I had brakes going down loose rock trails.
@@JagLite one button on the left turns traction control on and off. One button on the right changes modes. It only become more if you want to personalise off road pro
maybe they should of called it the "dual sport" version? at over 200kg and with the front mudguard clearance Im struggling to see that bike as a enduro bike
What twin fuel full is under 200 Kgs? I'd love to know. Over a front guard? OK
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV none that i know of, which is even more of a reason its a stretch calling it a enduro, and probably better called a dual sport (my bikes got 21cm front guard clearance, single cylinder, 166kg and mine still aint even classed as a enduro bike)
Is there finally a BMW twin that could convince me to replace my KTM990 Enduro R? I have never been impressed with any BMW Twin made so far.
Is the Enchilada setting standard or does BMW charge extra for that?
It's free!
Am i the only one who doesnt get excited about, or use, all the drive modes? I have a KTM 1090 Adventure R and only use full power sport mode in the dirt and on the road with ABS on (it works that well) and traction control off. The power delivery on these multi cylinder bikes is so smooth that i cant see a reason to dumb it down and spend hours frigging around with settings instead of riding
Possibly you are the only ones.
Love the review and your channel. Lightweight adventure bikes at 215kg’s with 100bhp at $27k is slightly confusing considering the competition but I’ve no doubt that the BMW fans will be queuing up. One thing I’ve noticed on your videos is that the sound could be better n certain parts. In the motorcycle the narration is good, but when you’re talking over the video it sounds tinny and echo-y, when you’re talking to the dealer you need some portable rode/DJI microphones. Poor sound makes all your hard work less appealing. Thank you 🙏
You do what you do in the time and environment you have. It would be wonderful to have production time. This video was shot, produced and published in 5 days. I’d suggest take your headphones off.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV totally, please don’t take this as a criticism I mean it with all due respect of your hard work. Using the right microphone won’t add any post production time. I listened to your video on my TV…thank you for your hard work 🙏
@@scottaubrey8392 I don't take it as criticism. I am trying to realign your unrealistic expectations. You will notice I take radio mics with me. The reality is they were packed in that tiny bag that I had just packed on the bike. Other times it was pissing down rain. I do what I can.
How do you feel this compares to the norden expedition or the desertx?
It in that cluster. Once there so many variables determine purchase. Cost, your experience with the local service centre.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV from a pure performace/ability standpoint of the bike itself
Bloody good Video!
Thank you.
What would you recommend, The Tiger 900 RP or 900 GS?
you need to decide what you want, purpose, price, feel.
how is it compared to africa twin, non ES version, 2024
Hopefully Safari or IMS will make an aftermarket tank for this model. BMW Australia should fit a bigger tank for their Australian customers because Australia is not a small country.
I pretty confident we haven't seen the last of this. Who's to say the current GSA couldn't be replaced with the running gear of this. I can't see this being a one off model.
So if you could have a Triumph 900 Rally Pro or BMW 900 GS Enduro which would you choose for two track, easy off road and half time on street? I have a KTM 890, Tenere and a BMW 1250 GS so I have experience with what I have and I really enjoy each for what they are. I am just curious. Anyone?
If turning ABS on the fly is not important to you and the best suspension is not either, nor traction control is not important to you then they are pretty close.
I understand. Just curious about your thoughts. I am seriously considering shedding the 1250. The KTM and Tenere suit me off-road. I really want a lighter, but excellent replacement for 70% road that is dirt capable. Bikes are spread out in several locations.
Shut your eyes and get a tiger my friend ❤
Nice bike. I had to un-Subscribe and then Re-subscribe because UA-cam stopped showing me your videos. I love the videos you put out. They are a must watch. You definitely deserve 10 fold the subscriber base that you have.
Thank you. Yes I suffer from the youtube algorithm that want to keep you in one lane. I love doing long form movies and bike builds and it doesn't like the change in content.
Great review ! Amazing bike and amazing low fuel range :(
Tell me out of interest, how many times are you going to need this all importantant fuel range, Personally for me on my 701, once every two years for two weeks and I take a fuel bladder.
Was that dust on the inlet trumpets in the airbox?
No. The airbox was clean as a whistle, it was like a glue stain? or discolouration. Definitely not.
Great video ❤ looks a great bike, but my 701 would smoke it!? 😊
Depends on what roads. I own a 701. On open trails the acceleration of this bike is crazy.
@ I was more concerned about the weight and how it handles. I must test one ☝️
@ GS has 30 more Horses 🐎 but 60KG heavier
My question is, how much would luggage affect mileage and handling?
Depends what weight.
Great review as always guys. Thanks for rescuing the snake 😊🙏
Thank you Clare.
Looks a great bike. It's a shame it's taken BMW 5 years to make something even close to the KTM 790/890 adventure R, and still it's heavier despite carrying less fuel and being more minimalist. The TC seems pretty poor in comparison too. I feel like you were being kind/diplomatic in that regard at times. Typically you guys talk a lot about fuel anxiety, so I was surprised the range was only mentioned once or twice at the end of the video, compared to the Tiger 900 video.
The TC is right up there. Look at the tests on this channel. I've tested them all. In terms of fuel anxiety, I don't think I could have said it more clearly in the conclusion. I rest my case.
38:05 you meant Adam R. was dominated the bike and this is where he found quickly the limit on the suspensions 😉
I call that style of riding fluff. I don't mean it in a disingenuous way after all I too filmed fluff from Miles. But let's be clear that's not Adventure, but it does highlight the potential of the bike. In his first video Adam hasn't tuned the suspension yet, nor has he checked static sag. Wait until he sets it up for his weight and purpose and then let's see what he says.
Can you turn off all traction control and ABS.....??
Well yes, kinda. On all big bikes there will always be abs on the front, well in Australia anyway.
Ripper of a Mid-Sized dirt weapon, that BMW has come up with.
I'd need a bit more fuel range I think. Then again, I wish the 890 had more range as well. It wouldn't take much, another half gallon or so.
I reckon 3.5 litres
This bike excites me, right in the twins.
It shakes up the twins.
Since when are we calling 220kg bikes "midsize" ?
You're the third person to say this is a well known description of this group of bikes. What twin isn't 200 kg plus.
This is the best F900 GS review on the internet so far , I enjoyed every bit of it.
Would you recommend this over the aprilia Tuareg 660 ?
Both for on/off road which one would you think is better. Budget is not an issue.
Thx
Yes. Because of access to servicing. But remember it doesn't have a long fuel range.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Other than access the servicing , which one is better off-road(gravel , desert and mountains)
Finally long distance on tarmac.
I would highly appreciate your input as cannot decide which one to choose coming October. Both bikes are excellent and I test rode both.
Hate the flickering lights so annoying, other than that the bike looks pretty good.
I thought they were useful.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVIn some countries they're illegal🕊
Straight off to test the Africa Twin. What a life :D
Seems charmed but there is a lot of pressure to film and then produce. What ever time you spend riding, you spend in the editing suite.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV We appreciate every bit of it! Thank you 😁
Can’t wait to ride one!
Yep book a test ride.
That airbox looked suspiciously dusty on the internal side of the filter…….🤔
No no no it was glue
Yo Clubby! You gave my mate and I Letter of the Month back in 89 with ADB. You called us 'Rainmans Mate' 😂
ha ha
220km and stressing about fuel? What! My little Honda dual sport does 330km+
Depends how you ride it.
the engine noise sounds weak. Probably good for not to produce any hearing damage, but it does not cause any positive impression to hear it.
You need to understand microphones affect what is really being heard. It has a great noise when under power and load.