1 ULTIMATE PRO vs 4 MELEE PROS

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • 4 Melee players walk into a bar. The world's best Incineroar player shows up and challenges them to a 4v1 in Smash Ultimate. Which Melee player retires from Smash then and there? At LACS5, they brought in Skyjay to fight against Cody Schwab, Zain, aMSa, and Salt to see if any of them have what it takes to take down a titan in the Ultimate scene!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 126

  • @Jackpauler4lyfe
    @Jackpauler4lyfe Рік тому +288

    Watching this event has helped me identify other melee players while I’m playing ultimate online now. Found a fox on elite that rematched me for 20 losses in a row that refused to air dodge or not side-b directly to ledge, but they had the heart of a warrior and eventually changed their gameplay bit by bit and won a match because of it. Shoutouts to Richie if you’re out there man

    • @shine-ub6eb
      @shine-ub6eb Рік тому +32

      Those are the best types of Elite smash players frfr, love when that happens randomly

  • @Lordin_
    @Lordin_ Рік тому +311

    Zain mixing up his drift and micro spacing the fair cracked me up LMAO

    • @heyyou8714
      @heyyou8714 Рік тому +19

      "ah, this is how they do it!"

    • @codetaku
      @codetaku Рік тому +29

      Zain is absurdly good at neutral in melee so it didn't surprise me
      I just wish he had gotten a stock out of it lol

  • @TriopsTrilobite
    @TriopsTrilobite Рік тому +117

    When zain tried to double fair and wavedash, I felt that

  • @OrashiTV
    @OrashiTV Рік тому +97

    Zain using side+b to stall his recovery like melee Marth is actually hilarious lol

  • @yaboytony3028
    @yaboytony3028 Рік тому +72

    the lucina gameplay is so funny. He's doing marth thing, fsmash and dtilts, its the most melee gameplay ive ever seen in ultimate

  • @mrkncd
    @mrkncd Рік тому +55

    It's kind of jarring to see how slow the movements of Melee pros are in Ultimate. When you watch Melee players with their quick and precise movements, and then switch to Ultimate, things feel a bit clunky.

    • @XC11301991
      @XC11301991 Рік тому +20

      Ultimate does suffer from 6 frames of input delay and has excessive buffering.

    • @serendipity5569
      @serendipity5569 Рік тому +40

      Melee movement just doesn't transfer to other games. It's too specific, making melee players the worst fighting game players in general. No crossover.

    • @mrkncd
      @mrkncd Рік тому +1

      @@serendipity5569 that is true, they cannot transfer like their "skills" i'd say??? 🤔 but i think that's okay too since it's unique you know 😁

    • @kestrelynn
      @kestrelynn Рік тому +3

      ​@@serendipity5569except for Leffen and plup for some reason, they gamer

    • @serendipity5569
      @serendipity5569 Рік тому +1

      @@kestrelynn They're built different

  • @lawyermorty6735
    @lawyermorty6735 Рік тому +72

    It sucks they never do the reverse of this kind of challenge. I’d love to see it

    • @somsnosa.
      @somsnosa. Рік тому +53

      melee is a much less "never played the game before" friendly game, its also very easy to get completely washed especially by top players because recoveries are so much worse

    • @Zechariah3694
      @Zechariah3694 Рік тому

      Boomer ass game

    • @vapeshrimp5220
      @vapeshrimp5220 Рік тому +5

      Didn’t they have a bracket last summit? I think Sparg0 won

    • @MilkCerealSsbu
      @MilkCerealSsbu Рік тому +13

      @@vapeshrimp5220 I think he means a challenge like 1 melee pro vs 4 ult pros in their game

    • @codetaku
      @codetaku Рік тому +19

      @@vapeshrimp5220 I still remember sparg0's quote at the end of that tournament. "I just watch Zain and tried to copy what he does". lmao he knows who to respect

  • @DoritoTime
    @DoritoTime Рік тому +36

    This is worst-case scenario for Melee transfers. Not being used to Ultimate's engine causes lots of mistakes - and Incineroar is the KING of punishing mistakes

  • @kestrelynn
    @kestrelynn Рік тому +8

    It's fun how similar this is to when Jmook reacted to ult players playing melee
    jmook was like "they have great mix but no punish"

  • @papasmurph131
    @papasmurph131 Рік тому +4

    In the ball pit, kicking children was gold 😂

  • @judithh4521
    @judithh4521 Рік тому +12

    Its giving off big brother beats little brothers friends to a pulp bc they made fun of him

  • @RogueApple327
    @RogueApple327 Рік тому +2

    The Lucina one was hilarious though, I mean that is the most melee shit I've ever seen

  • @notapro6430
    @notapro6430 Рік тому +8

    Oh my god I know why I juggle someone and they refuse to air dodge now

  • @alessiopiscitelli2749
    @alessiopiscitelli2749 Рік тому +7

    Lobotomy victim side bracket

  • @kestrelynn
    @kestrelynn Рік тому +3

    I think it'd be fun to take a melee player who's never touched ultimate, but give them a melee character that plays exactly like melee lile there's 1 character from hdr and it's fox on alt 3.
    So they know what they're doing and ult players know what they're doing, but it's balanced by melee players having what's probably a better character but having no idea what they're fighting

    • @aurora_x86
      @aurora_x86 Рік тому

      But the problem is the Ult player also doesn't know what they're fighting

    • @henrikswanstrom9218
      @henrikswanstrom9218 2 місяці тому

      You mean melee fox vs ultimate characters?
      Wouldn't be pretty. If the melee character had the controls and physics of melee I'm pretty sure all Ultimate characters would get overwhelmed by a professional melee fox since he just would be too fast. This also assumes the knockback and hitstun also transfers over allowing Fox to combo like in melee.

  • @AWanderingSwordsman
    @AWanderingSwordsman Рік тому +2

    As if marss wouldn't kick children in the ball pit.

  • @ErtM-vh5vs
    @ErtM-vh5vs 10 місяців тому +1

    Zains actually fundamentally better.

  • @henrikswanstrom9218
    @henrikswanstrom9218 2 місяці тому

    Doesn't matter what game you play. If you put beginners or people with novice experience vs a professional they will always get bodied.

  • @dutchph6_929
    @dutchph6_929 Рік тому +1

    Best content creator

  • @lunchbagSSBU
    @lunchbagSSBU Рік тому +2

    ill bet you they dont even know you can buffer moves 🤫

    • @Maybeplu
      @Maybeplu 6 місяців тому +3

      Well the fact that ultimate buffer exists messes them up; ultimate has a very generous buffer system and more input delay, so they won’t be able to fully utilise it.

  • @jonday5334
    @jonday5334 Рік тому +1

    love this vid

  • @chase3514
    @chase3514 Рік тому

    Man Sky Jay is a masher

  • @aero3020
    @aero3020 Рік тому

    0:31 what is this groovy ass song🗣️🗣️🗣️

    • @Barsee23
      @Barsee23 Рік тому

      let's dance boys from bayonetta

  • @KandiKid87
    @KandiKid87 Рік тому +5

    Lol bro it's so funny to me how Melee players really struggle in Ultimate. Like legit tears of laughter come outta me. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kkokay4
      @kkokay4 Рік тому +12

      Its like taking a pro mma fighter, and putting them in a pool of glue. That is what it feels like to go from melee to ult lmao

    • @KandiKid87
      @KandiKid87 Рік тому +2

      @@kkokay4 considering Melee is slow as fuck compared to Ultimate, I don't see how people get that shit flipped ALL the time. It's so weird to me.

    • @BlackPrintBK
      @BlackPrintBK Рік тому +12

      @@KandiKid87 you're tripping, melee is way faster. melee rewards rushdown and is terrible for camping (opposite of ultimate which is neutral focused), and the tech skill is several times harder; marss has said himself that melee destroys your hands because of how many inputs you need to do, and the commentators in this video mention ult's endlag at 1:35

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj Рік тому

      ​@@BlackPrintBKmelee is way easier than ult

    • @RIADAPLE
      @RIADAPLE Рік тому +15

      ​@@KandiKid87atleast make the bait believable bro

  • @SaBasAbA-dn1xh
    @SaBasAbA-dn1xh Рік тому +5

    Jort creamer

  • @williamlee8248
    @williamlee8248 8 місяців тому +1

    Ultimate gameplay is painfully slow

    • @PlagueDrHK
      @PlagueDrHK 7 місяців тому

      Real fighting game > cartoon glitchfest

  • @aetoris
    @aetoris Рік тому

    wonder how theyd do against a content creator

  • @punkin.4821
    @punkin.4821 Рік тому +6

    5:00 Skyjay messing up that wave land twice in a row would just annoy me as a melee pro

    • @ONLY_RR7
      @ONLY_RR7 Рік тому +10

      That’s not wavelanding, he’s just fast falling

    • @-feonix48-47
      @-feonix48-47 Рік тому

      Yeah those were just fast fall up airs? I watched this so many times to try to see what you meant

  • @sodacan8185
    @sodacan8185 Рік тому

    Day 1 of asking for a shimmy tierlist

  • @neverknowsbest.
    @neverknowsbest. Рік тому

    *reminder that leffen would've bodied.*

    • @aurora_x86
      @aurora_x86 Рік тому

      reminder that leffen only would've bodied because he actually plays this game (or at least did)

    • @PlagueDrHK
      @PlagueDrHK 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@aurora_x86leffen was rank 90 bro ain't bodying shit

    • @Saltyoven
      @Saltyoven 3 місяці тому

      Reminder that Leffen quit ultimate when he got butt blasted by an online Ganondorf, and hasn't played past the first year, where the meta was way different.

  • @calebolenick1222
    @calebolenick1222 Рік тому +1

    Incin broken

  • @qe1025
    @qe1025 9 місяців тому +2

    Is there a ghost playing? or did I hear "her" xD

  • @carldalord
    @carldalord Рік тому +3

    Who tf is Salt

    • @somsnosa.
      @somsnosa. Рік тому +27

      she's a captain falcon player that got really really good over the pandemic, she's sick to watch, still on the come up so u havent been able to see her in that many top 8s yet

    • @somsnosa.
      @somsnosa. Рік тому +8

      @@jaydenhohman2590 lol

    • @alice_2496
      @alice_2496 Рік тому +6

      @@jaydenhohman2590 cry more

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj Рік тому +3

      ​@@somsnosa.yeah he played to great but post pandemic did dirty to him, hope he comes back and plays in another major, dude is a beast

    • @kestrelynn
      @kestrelynn Рік тому +1

      Salt is probably the fastest falcon player at top level she's insane, in 2022 she went game 5 with loads of players like zain plup and Leffen, and this year she seems to be breaking into that top level having won a tournament over Llod

  • @jothehutt7946
    @jothehutt7946 Рік тому

    ❤😂😮😅😊🎉😮

  • @tylermartin6013
    @tylermartin6013 Рік тому +10

    Was their a girl playing in this set? I kept hearing “she” and “her;” were they off camera or something??

    • @crooker23
      @crooker23 Рік тому +20

      Salt is a trans woman, she uses she/her pronouns

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj Рік тому +7

      Salt is a guy with she/her pronouns, is still a guy tho.

  • @coletomson6039
    @coletomson6039 Рік тому +2

    The last person was a her?

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj Рік тому +8

      Nah it's a guy don't worry

    • @ShadekyuNTG
      @ShadekyuNTG Рік тому +2

      ignore the ignorant asshole/troll who replied saying she is a guy. Salt is a trans woman

    • @Holy-Tiramisu
      @Holy-Tiramisu Рік тому +3

      @@ABC-ik9vj oh yeah a transphobic. how original.

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj Рік тому +2

      @@Holy-Tiramisu huh?

    • @Holy-Tiramisu
      @Holy-Tiramisu Рік тому +1

      @@ABC-ik9vj well refusing to recognize the new gender of a trans person is the definition of being transphobic

  • @Clevejdm24
    @Clevejdm24 Рік тому

    Marss content is just as bad as tkbreezy commentary

    • @aurora_x86
      @aurora_x86 Рік тому

      what a nice comment left by a kind and well adjusted human being

  • @hudsonhorizons8859
    @hudsonhorizons8859 Рік тому +13

    Well she’s a guy so…

    • @lugger3153
      @lugger3153 Рік тому +35

      Bro really making something out of nothing, cringe behavior

    • @ShadekyuNTG
      @ShadekyuNTG Рік тому +1

      please get off of the internet

    • @scaph_1909
      @scaph_1909 Рік тому +6

      Unnecessary ragebait

    • @hudsonhorizons8859
      @hudsonhorizons8859 Рік тому +10

      It’s not compassionate to lie or to affirm someone else’s self delusion

    • @geraltrivia9565
      @geraltrivia9565 Рік тому +1

      @@hudsonhorizons8859the only delusional one here is you bro

  • @brotusclips
    @brotusclips Рік тому +2

    oh man there IS foxtrotting in Melee right?
    edit: they were foxtrotting the whole time

    • @plnk0
      @plnk0 Рік тому +4

      tf you trying to say kid

    • @brotusclips
      @brotusclips Рік тому

      ​@@plnk0 you know what you right, I'm seeing the foxtrotting in all the places I thought I wasn't seeing it. confirm you see this and I'll delete the comment

    • @TriopsTrilobite
      @TriopsTrilobite Рік тому +1

      @@brotusclipsno actually what r u saying

    • @brotusclips
      @brotusclips Рік тому

      @@TriopsTrilobite gee idk

    • @brotusclips
      @brotusclips Рік тому +1

      @@TriopsTrilobite actually I was saying all Melee players are trash always at everything that isn't Melee always, in general, as a derogatory slur against everything that Melee players are or ever have been ever. and I'm an expert authority on that.