338 Winchester Magnum, where did it go?
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2023
- The .338 Winchester magnum, very popular for Alaska and plains animals in Africa. But in the last few years, it seems to have disappeared! I shoot and show some loads and animals that I have taken with it.
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Hello John, In the 25 years I spent in Alaska. 90% of the time I carried my Sako 338 Win Mag. An old Finnbear model. I took just about everything up there with that gun. I always used Hornady 225 Grain Spire. Unless Brown Bear hunting on the Alaska Peninsula, then I loaded up some Hornady 250 grain Round Nose bullets. Now I'm retired and living in Southwest Virginia and still use that rifle every once in a while for deer. It still had the same scope I put on it back in 1974 when I was in the 10th grade in Anchorage, a 4X Leopold. I do believe if I ever had to get rid of all my guns, that would be the last to go. Stay safe.
Those older Sakos are great rifles! I used Leo 4X scopes on a few of my rifles over the years. Very reliable scope. Thanks and take care.
Been loading 338 WM for nearly 40 years and taken many elk, moose, caribou, 1 bear, and many deer. Not ready to change though I do have a 6 PRC and a Lazzeroni Warbird. Never been bothered by recoil. When hunting you never notice it. 338s are Ruger, Browning, and E.R. Shaw. Like them all.
Yep, a great, useful cartridge! Thanks for watching!
Great video. I just found .338 Win Mag at my local shop in Wisconsin for $62 and did find it online at a few places in the Precision Hunter for $62 so it looks like it is coming back around again!
Yeah, hopefully it does come back. Here in Alaska, we cannot online order ammo and have it shipped here., so we need it in the stores. Thanks for watching!
I have my late father's 338 win mag. Was a Remington 1917 that he sent off to have customized. Fortunately, I have gotten into reloading, and we never threw away brass. As of the time of this comment, I've only seen 338 ammo at midway for $100 a box. Used brass is crazy at $1 or more a piece.
I actually saw new Winchester 338WM brass at Cabela's not long ago, didn't last long! Thanks for watching!
Same happened to the 280 Remington, no ammo, no guns. But I use it and will continue too
Yeah, the 280 Rem is a great cartridge! Thanks for watching!
I’ve got (2) 338 Win Mags an a 338-378 Wby Mag. I really like the .338 caliber! Nice video!
Thanks! Yeah, a great and useful caliber! Thanks for watching!
I just picked one up in a savage. I remember 10 plus years ago it was all over the shelves now I can’t find a box of ammo anywhere. I liked 338 caliber so much after I got it I had a chance at a 338 ultra mag and bought it in a rem 700. It’s a shame everyone is so tied up in the latest and greatest they seem to forget what worked for years and years.
Yeah, 7mmRemM and 300WM is plentiful on the shelves these days, but no .338WM. 338 UltraMag will give the 338 Lapua a run for it's money. Appreciate you watching.
Before Covid a box of 338 Winmag only cost about $5-10 more than a box of 300 Winmag. Now the 338s can be found at almost $100 a box. Precovid? about $40 a box. Talk about inflation. Winchester, Savage and Mossberg currently make 338 Winmag rifles.
Well, here in Alaska more hunters are trying to find .338WM ammo than anything else, just not there.
Cannot mail ammo to Alaska. Gun manufactures may catalog them, but there are very few .338WM rifles on any store shelves. Thanks for watching!
Hi John, what an awesome calibre and I really like your rifles. From what I can see the 338 is incredibly versitile due to a combination of high power but still in a flat shooting platform. Classic calibre. Cheers Dave 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
Yeah, it has been called the ideal Alaskan cartridge. As you said, flat shooting but enough horse power for Bears. Thanks and take care, John
Thanks for the great video and hunting experiences.
Thanks for the kind words, and for watching!
I am a 35 guy. So for me the 358 Norma Mag is my caliber.
Close ballistics with slight nod to the 358 sending 250's past 2850 fps.
Great video man! Excellent choise as ammo is far more available.
Thanks! Yeah, the 358NM is a powerful cartridge. 338WM use to be pretty popular, especially here in Alaska. Glad I have plenty of brass.
Great video, i got 2 if those zytel stock 338s, 1 winchester model 70 338,
And a zytel stock 35 whelan,,,
And the reloading stuff,
Im good for the next 500 years.
Yep, looks like one has to reload for the .338WM these days! Thanks for watching!
Great video, John! Love my 338. It's a custom stocked and barreled Rem 700 from H-S Precision. Has an 8" twist from a recommendation from the late Bill Steiger of Bitterroot Bonded Core bullets. Playing with some old 300 gr Winchester Power Points and 300 gr Nosler Accubond slugs. Thanks John!
Thanks! I might have to try a 300gr bullet in my .338WM, not sure of the twist though. Appreciate you watching!
You hit the nail on the head when you described the difference of the felt recoil between the 338 ad the 375.
Believe that these young hunters are really not into the heavy recoil and power down range provided by the belted magnums. Their mothers or someone on Facebook told them what they liked = 🐑.
And the 338WM is not considered a "long range" cartridge. Thanks for watching!
The first brand new rifle I ever purchased when I was 18, back in the mid 80's, was a tang safety, Ruger M-77 in .338winmag, I still have it, great rifle.
Yep, I have one too, great rifle. Appreciate you watching!
I've had SAKO 85 Brown Bear in .338 Win Mag for five years now. It's absolutely perfect on moose and bear hunts. Yes, the .350 Wehlen can do the trick at ethical distances, but it's unavailable and completely unheard of in my country and I prefer .338 WM over the 9.3 because of the flatter trajectory and a bit more power. For me this rifle in this caliber is a keeper.
Yep, great hunting cartridge, there are a bunch of hunters looking for ammo here in Alaska! Thanks for watching!
I know a lot of people here in B.C. who shoot 338 WM. and so far ammo is easy to come by. If your 338 WM kicks harder than a 375 HH, you must have a crappy designed stock! I have only shot 2 375 HH rifles, and 4 different 338 WM, and the 338 in my experience has a considerably lighter recoil! I have heard for years that the Winchesters recoil less than other brands, but since I have only shot Winchesters and one Ruger, I can't say for sure, but my Win did kick less than the Ruger.
338WM ammo very hard to find here in Alaska, many hunters trying to find it. I have 2 Ruger 338WM rifles, both have thin, hard recoil pads. Although I have talked to a significant amount of people that don't like the recoil. 338WM is more fast sharp recoil as opposed to 375H&H is more of a push. My 375 Ruger, the Ruger Alaskan, is very comfortable to shoot. Thanks for watching!
Recoil pad makes a big difference. But yeah an HH has more powder and more bullet, the physics dictates it will have more recoil.
I've not heard of it til now but I think it would been one I'd like 👍 good stuff sir
Thanks! Yeah, versatile cartridge, fairly flat shooting but has the power for Bears and such.
I like the Nosler accubond and the Swift Scirocco II. I can get almost 3100 out of a 200 grain bullet and around 2850 out of the 225 grain and the 250 will be around 2700. I suggest to look at all loading catalogs to find the best loads and find the bullet that groups the best. I like the rifle better than my .300 Win mag because it has less recoil.
Sounds like nice loads! I have used .338 WM for many years and have taken much game. My normal handload is a 210 Partition going about 2900. Sometimes I use 250 Partitions, at a lower velocity. Thanks for watching!
.338 WM has been a good performer for decades, I'm sad that I never got around to having one. And I did have many chances for really nice ones but something else always took priority. Maybe next time. Mike.
Yeah, for much hunting it is too much, but it can easily be downloaded and still be effective. Take care, John
Looks like a great cartridge, but I've never really heard much about it. It does seem like "hunting" cartridges don't get as much attention as the "high speed tactical long range" cartridges. Thanks for sharing.
It is/was very popular in Alaska, popular for Plains game in Africa too. Yeah, if a cartridge cannot shoot 1 MOA at 1000 yards out of the box, then many shooters aren't interested.
I was worried for a minute so I ran to my safe and checked and my model 70 338 was still there. Great round I’m glad I have plenty of brass and bullets.
Yep, mostly have to reload for the 338WM. There are a bunch of hunters looking for that ammo here in Alaska! Thanks for watching!
Basically it's not a "tacti-cool" cartridge. I originally got my savage .338 win mag to take on a fishing trip in Alaska
Yeah, that is probably part of it, a lot of people here in Alaska still looking for ammo! Appreciate you watching!
@@30-06john Ya i bet I think about 95% of all .338 win mag videos are from Alaskan guys. Sometimes I wish I bought a .300 win mag instead since I don't live there and ammo is cheaper and easier to find. But the idea of a grizzly or moose charging made me grab the .338 instead haha
@@supergreatairgunreviews I have only shot one Grizzly. She charged from 30 yds., and I shot as quick as I could, My 338 cal. 250 gr. Nosler Partition stopped her dead in her tracks and turned her sideways, my hunting partner shot her in the left shoulder and tipped her over, my second shot hit between her front legs and exited her spine. The whole scene only took about 2 seconds to play out, she was dead at 12 yds.
Unfortunately for the 338, for most ppl, theres nothing the 338 can do that the 300 win mag cant and the 300 remains more versatile and available on shelves at cheaper costs. The 338 seems to be a niche cartridge for alaska around bears and even then, 375 or 458 may be better if you need a lot of gun. But i own a 338 lol
The .338WM is one of the most popular cartridges here in Alaska still. When I went to Africa for plains game, the professional hunter was glad that we ( three of us) all had .338WMs and not anything smaller, much more reliable on game he said. Thanks for watching!
Have a 338 RUM CA custom, my elk thumper… 1 and done!
338 RUM is an excellent long range cartridge. Buddy of mine has one and made some long shots on game. Thanks for watching!
My grandpa gave me his ruger no.1 in 338wm when I was 16. I’ve taken an elk and a bear with it. At the time I had 2 boxes of 200 grain federal vital shoks and now 7 years later I’m down to 12 rounds left. It’s definitely getting wiped out by the 338 Lapua and weatherby.
I have been seeing a bunch of people trying to find .338WM ammo with no luck. Thanks for watching!
Do you understand that there is an ammo shortage...my gun shop is out of 22 LR...but that doesn't mean that the 22LR has lost interest. Perhaps there is no 338 Win on the shelf at your gun shop because there is high interest and everyone keeps buying it up!
Here in Alaska, the .338WM is the most requested ammo in all the gun stores, I regularly visit over a dozen gun stores. There is plenty of .270, 30-06, 7mm RM and 300WM, no .338WM. Thanks for watching!
We have a few boxes at my local gun store.
Be prepared for a bunch of Alaskan to show up!
All can watch, on youtube, a Brenneke Black Magic Magnum 12 GA Slug turn to dust when shot into a horizontal stack of paper plates. If even once great? Nosler partition bullet lost a large amount of its weight by the looks of your recovered bullet and seen elsewhere. Faith has been lost from slugs and bullets to public health.
The recovered Nosler Partition worked as designed. Mushroomed to the partition, the fact that the front part was not recovered is not an issue. Thanks for watching.
Can anyone help me get ammo
I would go to your local gun stores and see if they can order it, or if you are in the L48, mail order companies can ship to your home. May take a few months. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Yes it's dissappeared
Americans got soft.
I actually think many are going to "long range cartridges", and the .338WM is not considered long range. Thanks for watching!
@@30-06johnexactly... cuz they are soft... 6.5 manbun