Attack on Titan 4x21 REACTION!! "From You, 2,000 Years Ago"
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2022
- John and Steve's reaction and discussion for Season 4 Episode 21 of Attack on Titan - From You, 2,000 Years Ago - #AttackonTitan #AoT #Anime #Reaction
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NOT A SPOILER
Not much is known about the worm that's the source of Titan powers in both anime and manga, it's been mostly left to the reader/viewer interpretation, so i can share what think without spoiling anything. I personally think it's supposed to be grounded in science, not spiritual/magical/alien powers, given what the worm was inspired by.
The worm actually existed in our real world. It's an extinct species called Hallucigenia. Until new findings were made very recently, it was the most mysterious life form ever discovered. Scientists couldn't even agree where its front or back was, or what were the functions of any of its body parts, which leaves quite a lot for a sci-fi writer's interpretation of what it could've been and how would it interact with a human if it survived in a cave somewhere. What scientists did notice, was that it was lacking a mouth and sexual organs, so its means of reproduction and survival were unknown. - Giving birth to the idea that Hallucigenia would not be capable of replicating sexual and digestive organs for titans it's making I suppose, as it can't understand their purpose. Since it had to survive somehow, making it dependant on solar power and or/human body heat like a tree it was originally connected to seems like a clever idea. It also had to reproduce somehow, so scientists theorized it was perhaps a parasite that would try to enter a state of symbiosis with other organisms to spread around it's genes as they reproduce, though they had no idea what would it give in return for other organisms helping its genes spread around - imagining it as a mimicking parasite that would enlarge the hosts body to protect itself while using Eldians to spread around it's genes into a whole race of men is another clever idea from Isayama to fill up the gaps in actual science. The design behind titan powers isn't random. It's actually VERY well thought out.
That's one of the biggest things I like about this show is that although it's not real, there is some real science/reason behind the Titans and everything.
Damn, well that's cool, thank you!!
Wow thank you, now i love this show even more. AoT just doesn't stop surprising me.
This is honestly the best/smartest written animated series I've ever seen.
I'm not a huge anime fan, but this is a ... Titanic ... exception.
(sorry)
Just to be clear, this is your interpretation? Like, Isayama could have just saw the thing and was inspired by its appearance alone (heck, maybe he just designed something that ended up looking very similar to a real world prehistoric creature). Or is this in an article? Either way, I think it's a pretty cool.
"Pastor Nick is probably rolling in his grave" Little comments like that, aside from the excellent commentary you two do, are what make you guys gold imo.
Idk why, it just made me produce a dumb grin on my face. Just now imagining him reacting to the plague of stomps.
Cannon ending needs Pastor Nick to save the day Jesus style.
Haha thank you!!
I laughed so hard at that lol
Facts 😹😹😹
For sure, most people don't follow the story close enough to remember a guy like that enough to make a joke about it.
“Oh, they’re definitely slaughtering that village” made me laugh harder than it should have and I haven’t even had an edible yet.
Dude I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that gets high before reaction videos idky 😭
Nina jal hae…. Is it? 😂 I’m learning Korean too and is a AOT fan. 😱. 😂
@@cjjackson2423 😂
@@MusicWorldVNT Yes! I’ve been studying for three years. I lead a daily study group on Clubhouse and tutor on Sundays. When I first started learning, a Korean friend sent me a sweatshirt with 니나 잘 해 and I was like “Nina, do well! That’s so sweet!” And she said, “Yeah, that but also it’s an expression that means don’t worry about what the fuck I’m doing; worry about yourself and that’s you perfectly.” But yeah, I’m Nina, I’m a Korean language learner/teacher, and I’m addicted to AOT. Nice to meet you. 😂
Our girl Ymir just wanted a hug.
Notice how Eren addresses his people just as subjects of ymir not eldians anymore because he knows the truth that eldians enslaved ymir for their benefit
I love how in 16:34 you can see their eyes try to frantically speed read the midroll. Same bro same
haha it's the only way!
*the walls begin to collapse*
"Pastor Nick's probably rolling in his grave." 🤣🤣
Now we've finally seen the true history. It was a mix of both Eldian and Marleyan truth. Ymir did build stuff, but she also destroyed and crushed a lot of things and people too. And her descendants then did the same as well. Time to play devil's advocate for a bit. A lot of people always seem to think the Marleyan-Eldian conflict happened 2000 years ago. While yes, that is correct that it began 2000 years ago, it only ended recently, about a hundred years ago. Meaning the Eldians basically subjugated and destroyed the world for 1900 years. The Marleyans who currently are alive probably had Grandparents or Great-Grandparents who were subject to the Eldian Empire. And the stories of fear and hatred were passed down. Which is why the world hates Eldians.
In war, things usually end with both parties coming to an agreement to not cause further destruction. But Karl Fritz didn't do that. He decided he didn't want to be that guy and his response to his people causing 1900 years of suffering was basically, "Sorry about all that. Promise we won't do it again." But he also threatened them with the Rumbling, pushing that same fear and rage onto future generations, running from the conflict and wiping people's memories. Some people like to sit on a moral high horse, but if someone tormented your family, friends, and everyone you knew for 2000 years throughout multiple generations, and their only response was saying sorry, you probably wouldn't be like, "Oh. They were just in a silly goofy mood".
That doesn't mean treating Eldia like how they were treated is right. And doing what happened to them to the rest of the world also isn't right. But the show brings up a few interesting themes. And one of those is becoming like your enemy. Hange noticed that she and the Government were becoming exactly like the same people they fought so hard to take down 4 years ago. People mistreat Marleyans and treat them like servants on the Island. Pixis notices that Yelena and the Jaegerists are putting armbands on people and isolating them like Marley did. And Marley became what Eldia once was. So the question arises. If you're so determined to defeat your enemy that you lose yourself and become exactly like them, do you still consider that to be a victory?
Thanks 😊 bro For Explaining this in Detail Cause So Many fans think that world hate Eldians unnecessarily but with this episode they know now why they hate Eldians because Eldian Empire started this and and they oppressed World and most Marley for 1900 years
Great and objectively truth of the AOT world. What I disagree with is that you said that the eldian and Marleyan conflict began with ymir. I dnt think it started then bit I do believe they had smaller skirmishes prior to ymir that only exasperated the conflict and swung it in eldia favour after ymir got the pwr.
The earlier Eldian was probably based on our world Vikings and Marley probably based on Rome. And if AOT reflect our world.... everyone knows ancient Rome wasnt exactly paradigms of peace, civility and kindness nor were the Vikings. Two civilizations in an era defined by Conquest, bloodshed, slavery and so on.
Thats why AoT deserves peace Nobel prize exactly.
I also just realised that Ymir wasn't originally from Eldia. Her tribe was enslaved by the Eldians
Eren has always been the same person from the very beginning. He matured, but never truly changed. He is still the guy who'll do anything for his friends and we'll keep moving forward doing what he thinks is the right choice without asking for his friends' help
Well, he is a person who has always been moving forward towards freedom.
But what is freedom to him? His conception of freedom is twisted. He is looking for ultimate freedom at mental level which is impossible. He feels that he would feel free if there would be no enemies or no person outside the world but still there will be enemies and such restrictions within paradis. He is hoping to view and look from a birds point of view
@@shubhamvyas3192 yeah. What I think it's so great about Eren's character is that after getting the full power of the founder, Eren became the biggest slave of all. He was cursed with the knowledge that there is no free will and you can't escape from what you were destined to do
What it freedom to Eren? What is free will when your future is set in stone. When he kissed Hsitoria’s hand he saw the Rumbling happen before his eyes. He cried when he saw the villagers in Marley knowing he’d one day destroy them. Eren claims everything happened by his will alone and yet he was powerless to change his destiny. This is why I love this show, it brings up such a abstract themes about free will and destiny. Eren the embodiment of freedom, is ironically not free. Maybe he even knows it, remember back to when he beat up Armin. Armin told him “so this is the freedom you want? The freedom to hurt Mikasa? Who’s the real slave?” And you can see Eren visibly recoil, he gets defensive reflexively because he knows deep down he was powerless to stop his fate.
@@shubhamvyas3192 with nobody outside Paradis looming over their head coming to destroy them he and everybody on Paradis has the freedom to not only live but to go out into the world and see the things in the book when he learned of that book his view was a world without people because he thought humanity was already wiped out and just go see the oceans the snow fields volcanos natural things etc and with the world denying him that freedom wiping them out opens that up to him
1st episode of the show is called “To you, 2000 years from now” this episode is called “ From you 2000 years ago”. That’s crazy
I've heard multiple translations, but I think "To you, in 2000 years" is the right one, or at least it sounds the most natural.
@@luitjenapol2815 iirc the first chapter in the manga is called "to you, 2000 years from now" but most anime subs call it "...in 2000 years".
“pastor nick is rolling in his grave” lmao i forgot about him 💀
Ymir can't speak because the King cut out the tongues of all the captured slaves, you can see it at some point in her past.
I LOVE YOUR CATTTTT
My favorite part of this is how quickly it happens. I mean just think, you're Gabi and you blast Erens head off, and before you can shake off the recoil the walls are crumbling, and the sky is blood red.
The music too. It's not music that says "the heroes have finally won" It's music that says "the bad guys are just getting started"
yuki kaji did a phenomenal job (like always) the music the atmosphere everything in this episode was phenomenal
( please watch the ova's)
When Ymir was running in the forest and fell she looked at a flower with 8 petals. When she died, the flower she was looking at had 9 petals. Who might be the ninth petal...
you finally got to this episode guys, it's an extraordinary episode .. when the rumble occurs 🤯 the music, the emotion .. eren's voice speaking to everyone, your reaction .. just magnificent
Love the cat trying to camera hog lmao
When the hunters were chasing (Yumir) and then she fell, she was looking at a white flower
This flower has (nine leaves), like the number of titans.
And one of those leaves of the flower had a spot of blood on it, which is represented by (Eren), because he is the only titan who does not obey the king's orders and seeks freedom.
And when the people pointed their finger at (Yumir )and accused her of being the perpetrator, she could not deny this because all of them had cut off their tongues, and she was kind-hearted, so she took this mistake herself.
And the number of fingers she pointed to was (thirteen), like the number of years that the owner of the power of the giant lived.
Lots of simple details but very wonderful for the story.❤❤
We may find out later but no one knows if Ymir or someone released the pig. I think it could actually be her, her inner desire for freedom made her do it.
@@luniousm3246
yeah maybe👍🏻
@@luniousm3246 I originally just thought that she actually did let it escape by accident. But the way she looks at everyone pointing at her it almost seems like she's shocked
Your guys discussion on this episode was solid.
AOT is a Masterpiece- huge respect to Hajime. Even the cute cat wanted to watch :) !
Season 2 ending, guys. Ugh. This episode puts it all into context (finally). This episode went by fast, but so much happened. It's jaw-dropping to say the least. When those walls came down... what a moment!
About Ymir not making a deal with the devil of all earth... what if Eren is that devil? If time isn't linear, then this could have been the moment referenced in the stories. That would something.
Oh boy. Here we go. Let's get ready to rumbleeeee!!!!
the tree ymir fell through could be yggdrasil, the world tree, and she fell into the lake of urd, and the creature is a representation of the dragon Níðhöggr. Well, the creature she touched looks like a hallucigenia
Wow guys...finally caught up with AoT .
Can't express how I feel about this show...it kept me glued to my seat!
Now we can watch the rest of these episodes together.
I think the attack titan was born from Ymir's wish to become free from this vicious cycle. It is ultimately the future sight of the attack titan that led to her being freed. A self fulfilling prophecy.
"Pastor Nick is probably rolling in his grave" I DIED i love you guys reactions
13 fingers pointing at Ymir meaning the curse of Ymir.
9 petals with blood meaning 9 titans.
“Pastor Nick’s prolly rolling in his grave “😭💀
She can't talk because her tongue was cut off
maria, rose and sina each of them probably had 3 childs and they did the same thing as with ymir, so the power was split again resulting in the 9 titans, i think maria, rose and sina each have the combined power of 3 different titans
You might have missed it but there was each time a little or big time jump so we didn't actually see the king's reaction just that they used her for war
That's what we figured, thanks!
Yeah, cause he said "you have done well, my slave Ymir..." And bla bla
The messed up part of this whole thing is that Ymir is still a slave to King Fritz's will even after Eren "freed" her.
To "dominate the lands with its monstrosities". Eren is doing that to protect his friends, but that is exactly what King Fritz would've wanted.
Different motives, same outcome. Fate is a scary thing in AoT. Once set in stone, there's nothing the characters can do to escape it.
Not to mention eren still needed to be in contact with zeke (royal blood) to use the power, hence why he immediately grabbed hold onto zeke the moment they returned to the real world
Yea that's why the ending makes better sense but ppl don't think hard enough about the complexity of the endgame philosophy for this amazing story
If the thing would've ended with king fritz getting his way I would've been kinda evil
Shit you are 100% correct. Eren is doing exactly what King Fritz instructed. So is Ymir. She isn't free at all. AOR is such a brilliant layered work of art.
@@chinyereugwu9431 Ymir isnt she's doing it because of the manga and cuz ... I can't say what I'm spoiling but there's a theory but kinda disturbing
We're almost to the end bois
And now you should watch the ending song of season 2 again. that song even confused manga readers at that time. because when season 2 was released, the manga still at Fort Slava War, which was the beginning of season 4 for anime. so manga readers still didn't know the story of Ymir but Isayama just told the studio to do the ending song like that. Isayama played both manga readers and anime watchers hahaha
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At the start, when they raided Ymir's village, it's implied that they cut her tongue off, hence why we never hear her speak. Also, i would suggest you go back and rewatch the season 2 outro.
Also proving becoming a titan won't heal old would and disprove some fan theory that if Erwin become titan, he can regrow his arm.
@@scorpiongurlz89 No, that isn't true. I don't think we can expect Ymir's powers to work exactly like for future titan shifters. It could also be that she just didn't want to heal it, or didn't know how to. If your statement was true, Armin would still be crispy.
@@luitjenapol2815 Old wound. Typo in previous comment.
Sort of proven. Armin becoming crispy before he was turned, not exactly old wound. Ymir was injured by arrow and a fall. Her wound heal after she turned. Her tongue didn't.
@@scorpiongurlz89 I suppose you can't disprove that, but I don't really see why that would make sense.
because Yumir loved the king it might seem weird but it is the truth 😅😅😅
The king had his people cut the tongues out of the people they conquered. That's why Ymir couldn't talk.
We all saw King Fritz and his daugters in this one creepy ending. I think it was season 2?... Crazy.
Yeah and that was before the manga chapter for that scene came out.
Ah yes the pain in your thumbnail..keep 'em coming. 😂😢
we saw this all before, in the ending of season 2 lol
great channel
Thanks Master Chief!!
Eren: so I just started blasting
She became my 2nd favorite character after this episode even though we don't see much.
Eldians outside Paradis and in other interment zone are fucked.
There is a lot of interments zone in other countries to for Eldia. It is mentioned several time in the anime, although only briefly.
Udo, for example, he came from the middle east, where the Eldian in internment zone are treated much worse compared to in Marley. He mentioned it briefly in season 4 episode 4 iirc
"Being a slave meaning that you didn't have to bear the burden of responsibility for whatever you do."
Slavery is not freedom, Freedom is freedom with responsibility.
Either other take the responsibility away from you, or you take the responsibility yourself.
~ "Frostsmaker - May 29th, 2022. 10:00 AM".
14:27 -- And we will not hear her speaking, because her tongue was cut off, as it was done also to all other captured villagers turned into slaves.
Waiting for "someone", Eren never specified whom 🤫...
Loved this reaction. Something to clarify (if I was understanding correctly)...Ymir wasn't told to build the Colossal titans by the horrible king, but by the first king on the Island, as a deterrent when he brought them behind the walls. He had the walls built with the titans in them to keep the world at bay. The same king who vowed peace. Not the king who made her daughters eat her.
Also, love that you guys openly say you choose Eren's plan over Zeke's. Zeke's plan is also genocide. Either way, it's awful. But Eren is just backed into a corner. The ENTIRE world wants to kill his people. It's the world or them. He's just choosing his own. It's horrific still. AND - there's more to come on why he makes the choice he does.
One more thing -- the world was fearing The Rumbling because it's unstoppable lol. Good luck to them! Hahaha
No, not the entire world. Hizuru are their allies and helped them in everything during these 4 years. Marley also made quite a lot of enemies for herself over 100 years of war and the possession of the power of the Titans, I think the Island would have had many allies if Eren had not started attacking in Liberio. In addition, there are a lot of ordinary civilians who do not want any war.
She touched the source of all living matters or so they say - by Eren kruger
Eren is the embodiment of what the Attack Titan is.
10:57 pensei a mesma coisa quando vi kkkkk
"That thing" that made her into a titan has mentioned in the "OWL" episode "attack titan" episode and I think she's obeying the King bcoz she's a "good person" like what says in the book obeying things so people will love her or look at her as a good person like christa on the first episode living in lie bcos she's copying Ymirs story from the book before she revealed her true name
People always cut the scene in this episode’s reviews that would explain why Ymir is loyal. It’s there, people just don’t notice for some reason.
The cat is cute
Even in the manga, I don’t think even to the end isayama confirmed or denied armin was the narrator since in the manga there is no voice
Eren's gonna kill everybody outside the walls, even the subjects of Ymir over there.
Both nations were right on the story. Marley was massacred by Ymir, Eldia and the titans; but Eldia got what Marley lost, a prosperous land.
I think that there's 13 years between Ymir getting the titan powers and her dying and that's why titan shifters have a 13 year "term"
So if Ymir had not sacrificed herself titan shifters could have lived longer
They said that in season 3
Ymir is already dead in the real world, it was just a matter of which of the yaeger brothers gets ymirs founding power. Also, ymir doesnt know anything other than being a slave. Love the reactions.
great reaction as always...if you guys are up for some light hearted action/shonen/ superhero anime try My hero academia. its a good watch, highly recommended.
That creature is something that existed. Well I'm not sure if it still exist. It's name is hallucigania. You can google it. Don't worry it's not spiler
Ya. In prehistoric times, it touched a tiny lizard and created the dinosaurs.
"The truth is there is no truth."
- Eren Kruger
I loved the fact that the origin of the titans isn't what the Eldians and Marleyans perceived it to be. Eldians says it was a gift from the gods, Marleyans says Ymir made a pact with the devil. But no, it's a Hallucigenia. A FUCKING PARASITE LOL. If you rewatch, Kruger and Mr. Ksaver said something in the lines of "It all started when she touched something...".
I felt so sad seeing Ymir with her little bucket of water in the Paths ;(( and the little Reiss kids getting slaughtered by Grisha.
Also, EREN'S VOICE ACTOR AAAAA he really is my favorite
Every slaves' tongue were cut including Ymir. That's why she can't speak
Ymir loved the king so much and she thought how the king treat her was love too, but in the end the king still called her "slave", then she finally realize it wasn't love and lost the will to live, thus she died. but she lived basically her whole life as a slave so even after death she still serve the royal bloods, how sad
If you look at the 3rd ending it basically spoils everything that's happened
2000 Years in the making bois. The walls have been there since the start of the story, and now it crumbles.
Team Eren all the way!!!!!!
We might have just found a new worst father in anime history in King Fritz after this.
Now watch the season 2 ending and shock
she give the power to eren because she didn't have a body, she has been dead for 2000 years
Great reaction, dude on the right has a deep understanding of the plot, was not expecting that lol no offense
Haha thank you, no offense taken at all..it’s tough, I’m trying my best lol, there’s so many moving parts but I love it!! - Steve (guy on right)
Ymir can't speak because her tongue has been cut
Eren best boy
Plz give the kitten a stroke lol
Lads, Ymir CAN'T speak. They CUT OFF their TOUNGE remember?! And Ymir DIDN'T do the rumbling, Eren did by LETTING Ymir FREE. Ymir GAVE the power to Eren. Come on lads. Try and keep up. Also Zeke DIDN'T REACH them.
no he is killing everyone including the eldians outside paradise...
I wouldn't consider this a spoiler but he is so big because his head got blown off and his body was a decent ways away. So when the halluccigenia or w.e connected him the part between his head and body is just spine and ribcage if that makes sense. If Gabi hadn't blew his head off he would have like "normal"
hallucigenia
Founder yemir can’t speak her tounge was cut out
cat so fat!
Its ironic that you guys talk about eren controlling his own fate.....irony. no spoilers.
Eren= Genocide
Here are 2 facts that the people in the show didn't know but zeke and GHrisha:
1- Eren Know the Future, so if he says that the only way to save his friends is killing everyone he has a point.
2- Eren is doing all this, not because he wan't do it, he's doing this because he has to. Just like grisha did, when he gave to Eren the founder. They have the Attack Titan and that move them forward no matter what.
She cannot speak because her tongue was cutted in a scene
The only way I'd think Eren is wrong for doing what he's doing is if there was a guaranteed alternative where both the eldians on Paradis and the world can live without risk of their genocide and that isn't certain and there is only 1 certainty and that the rumbling against the world could ensure their survival morals be damned
Hä the titan is obviously eren
Ackerman??? not a manga spoler cuz I´m not a reader.. Just anime watcher theory.. Please don´t reply if you are a manga reader
If you think about it Ymir really is the one to blame for the terrible history and present war. Had all that power and she comes back to the king that was about to kill her? And then becomes a mass murder for him, has his kids and dies saving him? Lol kind of ridiculous writing. They don’t even show how or why she is so attached to him to commit those terrible things.
She was a child in the forest, I think she didn't even know where to go and what to do. So she decided to return to the adults and help her people. Just like Historia and our Ymir, she was good-natured.
No she’s really not she basically grew up a slave and didn’t know nothing but to obey the king it’s the stupid asz King to blame using and abusing that power and a example is her jumping in front of that spear saving him hoping for some type of validation or love and the trash king is the reason everything is still happening he wanted them to keep titans around 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@Azat0722 exactly 💯🙏🏾
NOT A SPOILER
Not much is known about the worm that's the source of Titan powers in both anime and manga, it's been mostly left to the reader/viewer interpretation, so i can share what think without spoiling anything. I personally think it's supposed to be grounded in science, not spiritual/magical/alien powers, given what the worm was inspired by.
The worm actually existed in our real world. It's an extinct species called Hallucigenia. Until new findings were made very recently, it was the most mysterious life form ever discovered. Scientists couldn't even agree where its front or back was, or what were the functions of any of its body parts, which leaves quite a lot for a sci-fi writer's interpretation of what it could've been and how would it interact with a human if it survived in a cave somewhere. What scientists did notice, was that it was lacking a mouth and sexual organs, so its means of reproduction and survival were unknown. - Giving birth to the idea that Hallucigenia would not be capable of replicating sexual and digestive organs for titans it's making I suppose, as it can't understand their purpose. Since it had to survive somehow, making it dependant on solar power and or/human body heat like a tree it was originally connected to seems like a clever idea. It also had to reproduce somehow, so scientists theorized it was perhaps a parasite that would try to enter a state of symbiosis with other organisms to spread around it's genes as they reproduce, though they had no idea what would it give in return for other organisms helping its genes spread around - imagining it as a mimicking parasite that would enlarge the hosts body to protect itself while using Eldians to spread around it's genes into a whole race of men is another clever idea from Isayama to fill up the gaps in actual science. The design behind titan powers isn't random. It's actually VERY well thought out.