Warning: REALLY LONG A lot of the comments here about AI seem to be on the right track, but unable to completely articulate why they disagree with using AI images. I hope that this comment can provide a little more detail to these arguments. I would like to preface this by saying this: Dragoon, I enjoy your content and storytelling style very much, but I do disagree with your usage of AI in your videos (in particular the images; music is a little different for reasons I will explain later). I would also like to say that I am a digital artist and am somewhat biased against AI “art”. I acknowledge my inherent bias but I do believe my argument can stand on its own. Addressing your first point, real human artists contain something that AI does not have: lived experiences. The difference between a human referencing an image and an AI being fed art pieces is that humans have a life outside of their references. Humans have conversations, experiences in multiple senses, and life events that shape the way they create art. A human artist can be inspired by a talk they had with a teacher, or a smell coming from the kitchen at home. This is what makes human art more than simple images: it carries the experiences of the artist whether intentionally or not. The reason why some artists get defensive about their work or believe it to be so important is because it contains a piece of themselves in a way that no AI can replicate in its current state. If AI androids were created that could walk and talk and have lives outside of being image generators, I would consider their creations art. I do not believe that AI is inherently incapable of artistic ability, only that its creations are not art in their current form. In the same vein, I do not consider AI image prompters “artists”. Vaguely influencing the output of a machine and editing away some mistakes is much different than the hours that I have spent directly drawing and painting to create my art. Your next argument relates to how AI images will affect the job market. To this I say that you are partially correct. Some people will value human-created art over AI images and be willing to pay the price. The issue lies with two groups: people who do not understand/care and corporations. Some people simply do not want to pay for art and want to get things for free. I will not share my opinion on whether or not they “deserve” art because that opinion is irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that giving everyone a free option for generating images that are close enough to the original idea is enough for some people to justify using AI images despite how they are sourced. Corporations, as the other opposition to this idea, do not care how their images are sourced. They only care about money. As such, artists that rely on said corporations for salaried jobs such as graphic design, animation, and illustration will be pushed out of those fields and replaced if the company sees fit. I personally believe that AI cannot be used ethically to generate images. Companies have been taking AI images from all over the internet without the consent of the artists and using them to make images. Although some AI tech companies have ventured into the field of music as well, they make sure to source their data from willing record labels and musicians because they fear the retribution of music companies if they do not. The only reason why corporations do not take this same approach to artists is that they know that artists can do little to fight back. I do resent the argument that AI images are simply a process of mechanical and societal evolution. When new technology is made as a tool, it HELPS humans but does not AUTOMATE. Affordable drawing tablets are a tool, better drawing software (like CSP and Krita) is a tool, but AI is only a replacement made for the sole purpose of cheapening the work of artists. Menial jobs such as car manufacturing and delivering mail often provide little satisfaction for those who work them, but art is a fundamental part of the human experience and therefore has no reason to be automated besides plain greed on the part of corporations and those who choose not to spend their money on an artist commission or take the time to develop artistic skill themselves. I would recommend watching Saberspark’s “Is AI RUINING Art?”, Hello Future Me’s “The AI Art Apocalypse”, or Ordinary Things’ “The AI Mind Virus” for a more in-depth exploration of this topic than I can provide in this comments section. Lastly, to the viewer: please like this so Dragoon can see it. We all enjoy his content, and I’m sure those of us who dislike AI generations would appreciate their removal from his videos. I will likely not respond to the replies unless Dragoon himself responds or I feel that it will add to the discussion to explain myself further. I will be ignoring inflammatory short replies in favor of EITHER side. I hope you all have a wonderful day!
Dragoon be like: Installing a mod to save time in Teraria perfectly legal and encoraged. Installing a mod to save time in Cookie Cliker. Evil act that desrves the death pentalty.
I know this is a joke, but if I can be a bit pretentious: The point of cookie clicker is to take an ungodly amount of time, where as terraria doesn't strictly need to
@@HittingBandy oooooooooooof Really that is oooooooooooooooooooooof I have 1000hours in Terraria and I felt the emotional pain equavevalent to a thousand burning suns. That is such an oof moment
I love how dragoon does not care for premade lore, and just makes up all of his lore it's hilarious to new people and experts who knew the old lore already keep up the good work dragoon!
It's kinda like hellsing abridged, sure it's technically not perfectly accurate, but it's so much better than the original, that it might as well be@@AlkalineandAcid
I have been following your youtube account for years. And I can confidently say that you have been getting more insane over time. Good work. Looking forward for more
The fact that his rapping didn't work is actually really interesting, because it feels like that's the first time it's ever happened. Usually allows him to instantly win/succeed in a Dues Ex Machina. Says something about his Terraria lore - the Hero's power levels clearly cannot be affected by his outside help, unlike most other iterations of Dragoons.
I put your entire video into a folder and realised it ends at 17 mins 26 secs 46 miliseconds the fact that it is 46 miliseconds off causes me PHYSICAL PAIN!!!
This should be how every terraria playthrough is portrayed, story telling is a key asset in a series, especially in a game like terraria when theres no boundaries for creativity.I hate seeing the same boring speedrun playthrough where they just kill bosses upgrade gear kill bosses upgrade gear
for anyone wondering the mods that i know hes using is improved movment visuals for calamity calamity. fargos mutant mod. luiafk. calamity mod .calamity music. calamity infernum.
morgan( a 5 year old) on a random day : bro your trash quit youtube dragoon: MAKES HIM THE MAIN VILLAN OF HIS STORY AND MAKES THE KID DELETE HIS COMMENT
Because ai is made on the art of people who didnt want it to be used that way but didnt know when agreeing to the terms of service on art sharing sites
@@jes7899ai is learning from images there isn't really a diffrence between a human looking at all thoes images and than drawing for whatever the user asks for and an ai doing that. That's the whole point of ai, it can learn and deosn't just copy
Finally donations are on again. So here is part 11 of giving Dragoon money every Video until he has enough money so he can buy a plane ticket to Vatican City so he can steal the pope's hat
"I'm sorry Markus. The place you go between lifes is dark, isn't it?" This line went surprisingly hard. Because these two characters are the only ones who know the pain of respawning.
Hey, a member of the Last Resistance here with some tips: There's a special sword down in the depths of hell called the Old Lord Oathsword. The last I saw of it was a bone serpent swallow it whole but it could be helpful! also theres an unique healthbar for Infernum mode that looks nicer and gives more info
For the AI part: Almost 100% behind what you have written, I stand behind. People want to hate something, give it 2-3 years and People will rage about something different. AI art will never be be as good as human drawings, because in Human drawings, there are mistakes that AI can't generate. The imperfection of a drawing is something, that makes art what it is.
this is a really stupid take. it seems you understand the problem of ai art stealing and taking others work and jobs but you just dont care. honestly thats crazy that you arent bothered by that
Warning: REALLY LONG
A lot of the comments here about AI seem to be on the right track, but unable to completely articulate why they disagree with using AI images. I hope that this comment can provide a little more detail to these arguments. I would like to preface this by saying this: Dragoon, I enjoy your content and storytelling style very much, but I do disagree with your usage of AI in your videos (in particular the images; music is a little different for reasons I will explain later). I would also like to say that I am a digital artist and am somewhat biased against AI “art”. I acknowledge my inherent bias but I do believe my argument can stand on its own.
Addressing your first point, real human artists contain something that AI does not have: lived experiences. The difference between a human referencing an image and an AI being fed art pieces is that humans have a life outside of their references. Humans have conversations, experiences in multiple senses, and life events that shape the way they create art. A human artist can be inspired by a talk they had with a teacher, or a smell coming from the kitchen at home. This is what makes human art more than simple images: it carries the experiences of the artist whether intentionally or not. The reason why some artists get defensive about their work or believe it to be so important is because it contains a piece of themselves in a way that no AI can replicate in its current state. If AI androids were created that could walk and talk and have lives outside of being image generators, I would consider their creations art. I do not believe that AI is inherently incapable of artistic ability, only that its creations are not art in their current form. In the same vein, I do not consider AI image prompters “artists”. Vaguely influencing the output of a machine and editing away some mistakes is much different than the hours that I have spent directly drawing and painting to create my art.
Your next argument relates to how AI images will affect the job market. To this I say that you are partially correct. Some people will value human-created art over AI images and be willing to pay the price. The issue lies with two groups: people who do not understand/care and corporations. Some people simply do not want to pay for art and want to get things for free. I will not share my opinion on whether or not they “deserve” art because that opinion is irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that giving everyone a free option for generating images that are close enough to the original idea is enough for some people to justify using AI images despite how they are sourced. Corporations, as the other opposition to this idea, do not care how their images are sourced. They only care about money. As such, artists that rely on said corporations for salaried jobs such as graphic design, animation, and illustration will be pushed out of those fields and replaced if the company sees fit.
I personally believe that AI cannot be used ethically to generate images. Companies have been taking AI images from all over the internet without the consent of the artists and using them to make images. Although some AI tech companies have ventured into the field of music as well, they make sure to source their data from willing record labels and musicians because they fear the retribution of music companies if they do not. The only reason why corporations do not take this same approach to artists is that they know that artists can do little to fight back.
I do resent the argument that AI images are simply a process of mechanical and societal evolution. When new technology is made as a tool, it HELPS humans but does not AUTOMATE. Affordable drawing tablets are a tool, better drawing software (like CSP and Krita) is a tool, but AI is only a replacement made for the sole purpose of cheapening the work of artists. Menial jobs such as car manufacturing and delivering mail often provide little satisfaction for those who work them, but art is a fundamental part of the human experience and therefore has no reason to be automated besides plain greed on the part of corporations and those who choose not to spend their money on an artist commission or take the time to develop artistic skill themselves.
I would recommend watching Saberspark’s “Is AI RUINING Art?”, Hello Future Me’s “The AI Art Apocalypse”, or Ordinary Things’ “The AI Mind Virus” for a more in-depth exploration of this topic than I can provide in this comments section.
Lastly, to the viewer: please like this so Dragoon can see it. We all enjoy his content, and I’m sure those of us who dislike AI generations would appreciate their removal from his videos. I will likely not respond to the replies unless Dragoon himself responds or I feel that it will add to the discussion to explain myself further. I will be ignoring inflammatory short replies in favor of EITHER side. I hope you all have a wonderful day!
i agree
(i didnt read the comment)
the factory must grow
womp womp
This was so real
(Didn’t read simplify please)
i will tell chatgpt to summarize ur comment
dragoon doesnt make videos, he makes movies at this point
I love the DCU. Peak films
Man I can’t wait for him to make Dragoon the movie
I seriously need a show or movie about his lore
Facts
The dragoon cinematic universe is peak@@xenigma1414
Dragoon be like:
Installing a mod to save time in Teraria perfectly legal and encoraged.
Installing a mod to save time in Cookie Cliker. Evil act that desrves the death pentalty.
Absolutely accurate
@@Dragoon45 Well guess i will get death penalty soon...
I know this is a joke, but if I can be a bit pretentious: The point of cookie clicker is to take an ungodly amount of time, where as terraria doesn't strictly need to
Well he did first install a mod in Terraria to make it harder. Also it wasn't mods but save scumming he found to be a crime in Cookie Clicker.
@@Dragoon45 ljkl,
Dragoon being Dragoon. Massacre, Torture, Slavery, and Death… Nothing special but more brutality
and roleplay
The greatest Dictator of the Western World
And his name is.. Dragoon 🙃
even turning a hacking incident of his own channel into lore
truly the greatest 🙃of all time
nah. He friendly
Source: Trust me
@@notmaincharacter I think the grandmas, random citizens of skyblock, and many others would disagree
The fact that Yharim's throne isn't an Auric tesla toilet seat should be punishable by death.
Ooh I didn't know what was a thing... I'll look into that
@@Dragoon45 brother have you even beaten normal calamity.
@@pentasquare pretty sure he stated he immediately went straight to Infernum?
@@HittingBandy He is in for a world of pain.
@@HittingBandy oooooooooooof
Really that is oooooooooooooooooooooof
I have 1000hours in Terraria and I felt the emotional pain equavevalent to a thousand burning suns.
That is such an oof moment
the fact that your upload scedule got better with a continuation of a terraria playthrough gives me PHYSICAL HEALING
Literally thooooooo
Good ending: instead of getting physical pain, you get physical healing
I love how dragoon does not care for premade lore, and just makes up all of his lore
it's hilarious to new people and experts who knew the old lore already
keep up the good work dragoon!
I somewhat agree
It vaguely resembles Calamity lore, so it's kinda like an abridged version
It's kinda like hellsing abridged, sure it's technically not perfectly accurate, but it's so much better than the original, that it might as well be@@AlkalineandAcid
ye
I'm a one man walking wiki of Calamity lore, and I love Dragoon's lore just as much lmao
THE FACT THAT YOU INTERRUPTED ME WATCHING ANOTHER VIDEO CAUSES ME PHYSICAL AND MENTAL PAIN
me too
Fax
true
What was the video?
Same
I have been following your youtube account for years. And I can confidently say that you have been getting more insane over time. Good work. Looking forward for more
‘I could fight them with emotional manipulation’
- Dragoon, 2024
real
The fact that his rapping didn't work is actually really interesting, because it feels like that's the first time it's ever happened. Usually allows him to instantly win/succeed in a Dues Ex Machina. Says something about his Terraria lore - the Hero's power levels clearly cannot be affected by his outside help, unlike most other iterations of Dragoons.
Terraria is the only game where if Dragoon dies in the game he doesn't die in real life.
THE FIRST PART 2 EVER ON DRAGOONS CHANNEL??? This is giving me physical HEALING
Well actually the terraria clicker had a part 2
@@TheRealComnet care to explain it?
@@TheRealComnetexplain plz, I don’t get it.
@@TheRealComnet since you know its a joke explain it
@@TheRealComnet I don't understand, can you explain?
I love your Calamity series!! Please continue, every time you upload Calamity videos, my day gets instantly better. Make me proud, son.
Dragoon is like paranormal SCP anomaly that escaped its prison
Your back
You’re*
*ther'dn'tre've
*diggin
Bots gonna bot
How does he solve the terraria lore , beat the game, make a story out of it and make an ENTIRE SONG all in ONE VIDEO💀💀🤯🤯
"I dashed into a *wrinkler*" I think cookie clicker has make him actually lose it.
Yes
No way you've done another terraria video in just a week. You've finally done causing me mental pain. I'm proud of you
Well if rapping cant kill something...ITS INVINCIBLE!
If rapping cant kill it, remove a p
@@Xx_babanne_avcisi27_xX👀 Ay… AYO-
it is more powerful than VERA
dear god. @@joemama-vh5yk
Thout it said raping
I really love your story telling, editing and humor, this is my kind of jam
Dragoons value to society is +10000000 when he steals the popes hat!
we need him to steal the popes hat
He has to reach 10 Mil subs before he does it
It would've been 5 Mil if he lost to Morgan I think
THERE'S A PART TWO??? FINALLY! THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED
We all know dragoon will suffer when he meets the devourer of sanity...Dont worry dragoon its nothing that will hurt you...physicly!
is that a refrence to a diffrent video?
*physically
What sanity is there left for it to eat?
@@panos-ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Waffletime, maybe.
@@eddieleung5714 yeah it is
when magnus respowned I just got chills all over my body, ngl
The fact that you left us on a cliffhanger has caused me PHYSICAL PAIN
to me that didn't feel like a cliffhanger. it felt like a good ending.
With my amazing deduction skills, I can say with certainty that you also have the wrath of the gods mod installed, good luck with the nameless diety
Help me there was some force that made me watch it within minutes of it coming out
You gotta continue this series its absolutely beautiful
Calamity and terraria devs waiting for dragoon lore so they will know what they can add next
the AI art is wild
i enjoy the mix of made up and calamity lore explanations and the commentaries!
Poor Calamitias is not a master of dark brimstone witchery anymore. In Dragoon Lore she just is a crazy witch
the fact that you use ai causes me PHYSICAL PAIN
5:43
@@Yetta-meta no no, don't worry, this is just a reference to his other videos (bloons specifically)
16:26
That’s a hungry, get off cookie clicker man
Vera returns to unite yharim
The AI songs give me PHYSICAL PAIN
the ai songs are fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!
cry
@@spinnykirbo6139 bro lets be serious it was ass
@@narskoleptique lets be serious, cry
@@spinnykirbo6139 who's a edgy boy??? :333 you're so edgyyyy omg, good edgy boyy
im so hooked I stopped what I was doing just to watch this, it was worth it xD keep it up!!
I think dragoon is an acronym. It stands for
Determination
Right minded
Ample
Godly
Opportunistic
Observant
Nightmare
Your voice acting is top notch as always Dragoon! 10/10!
Just wait until he fights The Scourge Of The- Nah, ain't gonna say. Let's just say that the universe of Terraria may just collapse...
You can't build in the profanded garden, so when you will fight with profanded guardians please remove the platforms
nah, it's funny af seeing non-natural blocks in that place lol
Loving the sort of storyline that you've got going here.
The fact that uploading a part 2 so soon HEALING OTHER PEOPLE'S PAIN CAUSES ME PHYSICAL PAIN
i dont think thats how it works...
@ssa-Tips-and-gaming that Is exactly how it works
@@plasant8408ok........
i never saw anyone do calamity lore, keep it up
Cussing less gives me PHYSICAL PAIN
I put your entire video into a folder and realised it ends at 17 mins 26 secs 46 miliseconds the fact that it is 46 miliseconds off causes me PHYSICAL PAIN!!!
“Who needs grinding when you have hype music?”
-Dragoon
Your upload schedule with this video gave me literal physical healing
Dragoon got me rolling on the floor suffering when he showed us our only weakness, AI generated stuff
cry
After seeing how hot Calamitas is, u simply HAVE to swear... thats a given
why was that ai song kinda FIRE
i kinda wish i wasnt so into calamitys lore so i wouldnt be nerding out at this and noticing every damn change
No way he actually made a part 2. That's new!
HE MAY FINISH A SERIE
@RERE-iz2dy There is a chance. We must believe.
@@lordpuff also remind him of playing the cookie clicker hypixel skyblock update thats important
The fact that you didn’t skip all the bosses and went straight to moon lord gives me physical pain
I love how dragoon makes grindy games look easy
it is easy
@@XelXavier NUH UH!
@@nicotheslothking6950 i litreally beat it in 3 days💀
It isn’t easy, but it isn’t really that hard
@@TheExistingVoid ye its sometimes hard ig
Wow your gameplay and story telling is better than what I've seen so far keep it up.
Seeing other people in PHYSICAL PAIN causes me PHYSICAL PLEASURE please keep it up Dragooncave
The fact that rap didn't kill the wall of flesh gives me SPIRITUAL PAIN
This should be how every terraria playthrough is portrayed, story telling is a key asset in a series, especially in a game like terraria when theres no boundaries for creativity.I hate seeing the same boring speedrun playthrough where they just kill bosses upgrade gear kill bosses upgrade gear
In terms of Story telling, production, humor, this is my favorite youtuber right now
I have nearly 1000 hours in terraria yet still I must know the terraria experience
The fact that I shoved a knife into my own side is causing me literal physical pain
17:25 start of pain
i had a heartattack when i saw him building his hellbride out of wooden fucking platforms
0:05 the fact he didn't install a vanity pack to get the actual yharim armour gives me physical and mental PAIN
NEW DRAGOON VIDEO RAHHHHH 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
You finally releasing a video has taken away my physical pain!!
i like my fries with no ketchup
when I'm eating a burger yes but by itself its nice with some whip cream ;)
love the lore and the artwork and the work in generall u putted in
The Ai art physically hurts me
This is the Best Series ever
fr
The song is actually fire like no way 🤯
honestly i think the ai art adds a lot to the vid. i really like it
for anyone wondering the mods that i know hes using is improved movment visuals for calamity calamity. fargos mutant mod. luiafk. calamity mod .calamity music. calamity infernum.
why does the AI song kinda slap tho...
This man deserves 10m his vids are so high quality 😂
morgan( a 5 year old) on a random day : bro your trash quit youtube dragoon: MAKES HIM THE MAIN VILLAN OF HIS STORY AND MAKES THE KID DELETE HIS COMMENT
this is kind of why dragoon is considered different
The fact you killed skeletons (which is violence) caused me PHYSICAL PAIN
That AI song was pretty good, dunno why people hate it so much.
Because it was ai, but I agree it was great, people are just mad it’s ai
My god, a part 2? He's too powerful
Dragoon forgot about the Hardstyle music, he could have beaten it first try
Bro the ai art is good , idk why people have a meltdown over it
Because ai is made on the art of people who didnt want it to be used that way but didnt know when agreeing to the terms of service on art sharing sites
@@jes7899ai is learning from images there isn't really a diffrence between a human looking at all thoes images and than drawing for whatever the user asks for and an ai doing that. That's the whole point of ai, it can learn and deosn't just copy
this is like peak acustic, I like it
Dragoon if you stop this series I will unsubscribe
Finally donations are on again.
So here is part 11 of giving Dragoon money every Video until he has enough money so he can buy a plane ticket to Vatican City so he can steal the pope's hat
The fact that that ai generated music was better than 99% of rock music was perfect
I have started playing infernum so you dont have to suffer alone! Halfed torture equals double the pain!
I really like the AI pictures, it is giving life to the story
"I'm sorry Markus. The place you go between lifes is dark, isn't it?"
This line went surprisingly hard. Because these two characters are the only ones who know the pain of respawning.
Please swear more!
No
Two videos within a week? Dragoon is spoiling us
can you swear more please?
Shut up
B-bbbut would Brandan think of this
You should play risk of rain… or I’ll get the stick.
Don’t try me I’ll do it
6:53 You arent slick
I like your version of calamity lore better lmao
i swear dragoons story writing feels like an Ai writing something that seems like it makes sense until you actually read it
I love how dragoon always pins us into a corner and fills us up with his juicy content and never pulls out
Blud what are you yapping abt, man is making up calamity lore on the spot 😭
Hey, a member of the Last Resistance here with some tips: There's a special sword down in the depths of hell called the Old Lord Oathsword. The last I saw of it was a bone serpent swallow it whole but it could be helpful! also theres an unique healthbar for Infernum mode that looks nicer and gives more info
FAST UPLOAD GIVES ME PHYSICAL HEAL
For the AI part:
Almost 100% behind what you have written, I stand behind.
People want to hate something, give it 2-3 years and People will rage about something different. AI art will never be be as good as human drawings, because in Human drawings, there are mistakes that AI can't generate. The imperfection of a drawing is something, that makes art what it is.
this is a really stupid take. it seems you understand the problem of ai art stealing and taking others work and jobs but you just dont care. honestly thats crazy that you arent bothered by that
HOLY SHOT HOW IS THIS WRITTEN BETTER THAN STUFF I READ
Which holy man is shooting?
The fact that i can't think of an original and funny comment gives me PHYSICAL PAIN
"Do you have a plan to stop him?"
"Yes, you!"
"So, we are doomed then?"